fc to sfc:

yertyert
in The Brewery
i've recently bought a famicom and an everdrive n8, right after my high school graduation; my intent being to begin a hands on approach to nes programming as a summer hobby.

later on, i decided to buy a super famicom, because i was frustrated with not having the rf switch from my n64.

(i, being a dumbass, soldered a coax to an rca. all i got was crushed dreams and a broken heart.)

anyways. what are the differences of the famicom and super famicom cartridges?

i couldn't find anything about playing famicom cartridges on a super famicom.

thanks in advance.

Comments

  • removed04092017removed04092017
    Never will happen. NES and SNES are 1000% different to program. 1000% different features. They are 100% incompatible and will never run each others games without modification.
  • GenXGenX
    You could always buy an FC to SFC adapter. Or, if you can, spend the money on an FC Twin or the upcoming RetroN 5.
  • removed04092017removed04092017
    There's is NO FC to SFC adapter.
  • dra600ndra600n

    Originally posted by: 3GenGames



    There's is NO FC to SFC adapter.



    Actually, there's a device that pops into the cart slot that allows you to play NES, Famicom and Super Famicom/SNES games. Let me see if I can find a link for it



    ETA: http://dizrythmia.tumblr.com/post/5212824521/super-8-the-ultimate-downgrade-peripheral



    Though, I'm sure those are kind of hard to find. There's also the retro port, but I'm not sure if that's just for NES or for Famicom as well.
  • GenXGenX

    Originally posted by: 3GenGames



    There's is NO FC to SFC adapter.



    I saw them while I was in Japan:



    http://www.amazon.com/FC-adapters-POKEFAMI-Super-Famicom-support/dp/B005YBKTRO
  • bunnyboybunnyboy
    If you write your NES game (with some restrictions) it is relatively easy to reassemble for SNES. The 68c816 can be put into 8 bit mode, SNES has similar graphics modes to NES, and there is source for an NSF player around for the music.
  • BouncekDeLemosBouncekDeLemos
    I have this cart here:

    http://www.nesworld.com/snes-nes20in1.php



    It's 20 nes games (Well, 19 nes games and one SNES Tetris clone) all in one cart for SNES.



    So nes games on snes is possible, although it's not gonna be a 1:1 100% conversion.
  • GorillazeroGorillazero
    No offense boss, but I wouldn't start programming if you can't tell the difference between NES and SNES, believe me programming IS NOT easy.





    I would recommend digging around NESDEV (google it) and you'll learn a lot.



    The Super 8 adapter works well, I have one.

  • dra600ndra600n

    Originally posted by: Gorillazero



    No offense boss, but I wouldn't start programming if you can't tell the difference between NES and SNES, believe me programming IS NOT easy.





    I would recommend digging around NESDEV (google it) and you'll learn a lot.



    The Super 8 adapter works well, I have one.



    Does it? I've been wanting one, but they don't pop up too often, plus I haven't looked lately. Is there any compatibility issues that you know of?


  • yertyert

    Originally posted by: 3GenGames



    Never will happen. NES and SNES are 1000% different to program. 1000% different features. They are 100% incompatible and will never run each others games without modification.

    lol.

    one of the core features of the 65816 is it's compatability with the 6502.

    even wikipedia knows that.

    thanks, though, dude.
  • yertyert
    i don't know how to delete this comment; i can only edit it.
  • yertyert

    Originally posted by: GenX



    I saw them while I was in Japan:



    http://www.amazon.com/FC-adapters-POKEFAMI-Super-Famico...

    that was exactly what i was looking for!

    thank you dude/tte.
  • DreamStarDreamStar
    Originally posted by: GenX

    You could always buy an FC to SFC adapter. Or, if you can, spend the money on an FC Twin or the upcoming RetroN 5.







    x2.
  • yertyert
    @bunnyboy:



        yeah, i'm probably going down that path.

        thanks, man.
  • marvelus10marvelus10

    Originally posted by: dra600n




    Originally posted by: Gorillazero



    No offense boss, but I wouldn't start programming if you can't tell the difference between NES and SNES, believe me programming IS NOT easy.





    I would recommend digging around NESDEV (google it) and you'll learn a lot.



    The Super 8 adapter works well, I have one.



    Does it? I've been wanting one, but they don't pop up too often, plus I haven't looked lately. Is there any compatibility issues that you know of?

     

    I had one for a long time, although not 100% compatible it was considered one of the best NOAC clones.



    http://www.ebay.com/itm/SNES-Super-Nintendo-Console-NES-8-Bit-Adaptor-System-/180967653228?pt=Video_Games&hash=item2a22833f6c




  • ShiruShiru

    Originally posted by: yert




    Originally posted by: 3GenGames



    Never will happen. NES and SNES are 1000% different to program. 1000% different features. They are 100% incompatible and will never run each others games without modification.

    lol.

    one of the core features of the 65816 is it's compatability with the 6502.

    even wikipedia knows that.

    thanks, though, dude.



    The same or a compatible CPU does not make a system based on a CPU directly compatible to another system based on the same CPU. Yes, 65c816 has compatibility mode with 6502, but that's mostly it. Almost everything else is completely different between NES and SNES. So the only way to run a NES game on the SNES hardware is to heavily modify the game, the parts that interact with other hardware: input, memory, video, sound.



    The mentioned adapters aren't actually run games on actual SNES hardware, they contain complete NES system in the adapter, all with CPU, memory, video and sound subsystems, only getting power and input from SNES and outputting audio and video (not always) through it.
  • removed04092017removed04092017

    Originally posted by: yert




    Originally posted by: 3GenGames



    Never will happen. NES and SNES are 1000% different to program. 1000% different features. They are 100% incompatible and will never run each others games without modification.

    lol.

    one of the core features of the 65816 is it's compatability with the 6502.

    even wikipedia knows that.

    thanks, though, dude.

    The 65c816 is compatible after setup. I'm not a retard, I know completely and have worked on the 6502 probably a few times more than you. There is no NES to SNES coverter. The things posted are just emulators you plug in to the system, nothing more, that's not NES to SNES.  Plus, the rest of the system is not compatible. APU and PPU are completely different. Somewhat the same, but not.



    And those NES games are ports of games. Closer, software changing is possible to port an NES to even something like Genny (Done, see the SMB project) or to even something like Raspberry Pi. Still, not the easiest way.
  • GorillazeroGorillazero
    I wish I could pay 3GenGames to answer questions, he does a far better job than I.
  • yertyert

    Originally posted by: 3GenGames




    Originally posted by: yert




    Originally posted by: 3GenGames



    Never will happen. NES and SNES are 1000% different to program. 1000% different features. They are 100% incompatible and will never run each others games without modification.

    lol.

    one of the core features of the 65816 is it's compatability with the 6502.

    even wikipedia knows that.

    thanks, though, dude.

    The 65c816 is compatible after setup. I'm not a retard, I know completely and have worked on the 6502 probably a few times more than you. There is no NES to SNES coverter. The things posted are just emulators you plug in to the system, nothing more, that's not NES to SNES.  Plus, the rest of the system is not compatible. APU and PPU are completely different. Somewhat the same, but not.



    And those NES games are ports of games. Closer, software changing is possible to port an NES to even something like Genny (Done, see the SMB project) or to even something like Raspberry Pi. Still, not the easiest way.

    thank you 3GenGames!

    that was much more helpful, and i'll keep that in mind for the future!

    although it sounds like tons of fun, i did not mention porting nes games to the snes.

    i specifically asked for a solution to playing famicom cartridges on the super famicom, which you pointed out to be emulators (nothing more than what i needed).

    of course you're not a retard (you're on na!); but, i think we both can agree that your first post was not at all helpful, or valid.

    thanks again 3GenGames, i do appreciate your response!
  • removed04092017removed04092017
    Yeah...unless you use the emu, there's none. I don't get your post, I know you're being badly sarcastic. But still, I think we can agree, whatever I say will be twisted another way. Plugging in a Super Mario Bros/Duck Hunt cart directly in to your SNES will never happen, and is not possible.



    You're welcome.
  • yertyert

    Originally posted by: Gorillazero



    I wish I could pay 3GenGames to answer questions, he does a far better job than I.

    pay away, Gorrilazero!

    that might deter our friend from responding with bullshit!

    and let's hope that's not true for your best interest

    :^J
  • removed04092017removed04092017
    What a dick. I know what I'm talking about. Prove me otherwise, with your vast knowledge...which if you had, we wouldn't be here anyway.
  • yertyert

    Originally posted by: 3GenGames



    What a dick. I know what I'm talking about. Prove me otherwise, with your vast knowledge...which if you had, we wouldn't be here anyway.


    dude, you approached me with a silly answer, and then said something else that was completely not true.


    i am only speaking of what i've seen.


    i admit that i had a dicktone

    "let's squash the steak right here pal"
  • DreamStarDreamStar
    I have to admit I agree with 3GenGames about it being impossible (without moding the console) to plug an 8bit Nes game into a 16bit Snes console.Their totally different formats ,and I'll continue to believe as such until (I see)different.
  • yertyert

    Originally posted by: DreamStar



    I have to admit I agree with 3GenGames about it being impossible (without moding the console) to plug an 8bit Nes game into a 16bit Snes console.Their totally different formats ,and I'll continue to believe as such until (I see)different.

    yeah, i'm sure he's right.

    and he mentioned that all i need is an emulator, which is the Super 8 that dra600n presented, and what Gorillazero confirmed as being sufficient.
  • dra600ndra600n
    Yeah, I didn't realize that the Super 8 had a NOAC on it, but that's one solution.
  • Parodius DuhParodius Duh
    Surprised nobody mentioned this:



    http://www.amazon.com/RetroPORT-SNES-Adapter-RETROBIT-Nintendo-DS/dp/B007A57C7W



    Theres also one to play Genesis games on SNES!!!!
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