Athletic World (PAL) proto
http://cgi.ebay.com/NES-Athletic-World-PAL-demo-cart_W0QQitemZ120294065206QQihZ002QQcategoryZ11988QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Does anyone have any information on this? This is a legit proto, right?
Does anyone have any information on this? This is a legit proto, right?
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Super Off Road, with a Sony chip in it?
I could be wrong, but that seems a bit odd to me.
http://cgi.ebay.com/NES-Super-Off-Road-USA-demo-cart_W0...
Super Off Road, with a Sony chip in it?
I could be wrong, but that seems a bit odd to me.
I'm not saying it's legit, but didn't Sony make chips for all/lots of NES games?
Uh....LOL
These are real. They aren't fake. They are the typical European magazine finds. "Paper on the chips" = covering EPROMS. Retail looking boards are found in many protos. Those are real. You can even tell the chips are EPROMS by looking at the solder around the chips.
Sony chip on Super OFf-Road? It's just a brand CHIP! NEC has chips in all sorts of NES things! Gld Medal Challenge is as real as it gets with a genuine long EPROM board.
Bandai probably did not do that to the proto labels when these things were sent to Nintendo Europe, they were probably all sent OUT to magazines that way with said labels in Europe, which is why a lot look that way.
Did any of you even READ my proto articles? Wow.
I wouldn't mind reading them if I knew where they were located though.
This is the one I was thinking of. Same one?
The proto reports are in various issues of Nintendo Age Magazine, which makes me think no one reads that either...
Did any of you even READ my proto articles? Wow.
Nope!!
Peroxide: I had to figure all this stuff out myself as well.
The proto reports are in various issues of Nintendo Age Magazine, which makes me think no one reads that either...
Yeah, but without the money to acquire the prototypes and study them, I would have no real way of learning where as you have the money to acquire them, thus you will have more knowledge in the end.
Volume 2, Issue 5?
Read that, figured you had a more descriptive one somewhere or something since that just touchs on the topic.
Peroxide: I had to figure all this stuff out myself as well.
The proto reports are in various issues of Nintendo Age Magazine, which makes me think no one reads that either...
Yeah, but without the money to acquire the prototypes and study them, I would have no real way of learning where as you have the money to acquire them, thus you will have more knowledge in the end.
Volume 2, Issue 5?
Read that, figured you had a more descriptive one somewhere or something since that just touchs on the topic.
Peroxide, I don't know how much more descriptive one can be with pictures of EPROMS and explanations of games being on production boards and sometimes ROM chips on pre-production boards. Article explains it pretty thoroughly.
Also, why does everyone assume "I have the money to acquire them" is always valid? Do you think I am rich or something and bought all these? It drives me nuts when people think that because I just have really, really good contacts and sought these out. I'm sure working at a video game magazine did not make me the wealthiest person on this site, probably not even this thread.
i prolly make more than dream... he just had farrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr more interest in video games than i did in the past (and now). when prices were cheaper, dream knew what to look for, where to look for it, etc etc etc. THAT'S what is most important! money doesnt mean shit when it comes to FINDING this stuff. if dream sold everything he has, he certainly would have a shit load of money from that, but he could have been a broke ass kid and collected all his stuff! buy big lots, break them up, make profit... the age old ebay scheme that tons of us have already done! u guys gotta keep in mind that if dream was really rich, would he ever sell ANYTHING? i know i wouldnt if i was extremely rich. but if he needs some extra cash, he sells stuff (like some sealed game or proto or the employee guide he just sold here on NA). dream may be a god when it comes to the amount of video game knowledge he has, but video game knowledge doesnt translate into money in the bank... although it should!
edit: also, dream seems really cool and he seems to sell some stuff to help out other collectors from time to time!
Peroxide: I had to figure all this stuff out myself as well.
The proto reports are in various issues of Nintendo Age Magazine, which makes me think no one reads that either...
Yeah, but without the money to acquire the prototypes and study them, I would have no real way of learning where as you have the money to acquire them, thus you will have more knowledge in the end.
Volume 2, Issue 5?
Read that, figured you had a more descriptive one somewhere or something since that just touchs on the topic.
Peroxide, I don't know how much more descriptive one can be with pictures of EPROMS and explanations of games being on production boards and sometimes ROM chips on pre-production boards. Article explains it pretty thoroughly.
Also, why does everyone assume "I have the money to acquire them" is always valid? Do you think I am rich or something and bought all these? It drives me nuts when people think that because I just have really, really good contacts and sought these out. I'm sure working at a video game magazine did not make me the wealthiest person on this site, probably not even this thread.
Well, fact being, I was born in 1989 and can't say I was too aware that Sony was making EEPROMs for Nintendo during my birth which I can't say is stated in the article so calling me out on that comment isn't too fair. Being as I grew up with the SNES and then with the N64 and Playstation seeing Sony parts in a NES does strike me as being odd.
With that said, me being born in 1989 would put me at 19 and I assume with an eBay Store (I believe you have one) and whatever your day job is, you would make more than me, thus you would be able to purchase more prototypes.
Never thought of it the way Seth was saying, just the fact you had more interest before it become popular would also explain why you would have more.
Regardless, I wasn't bashing your article as it does help distinguish a prototype and is definitely more helpful than nothing at all and far better than anything I would have obviously put together.
I don't mean to sound rude or insulting as that is not my intentions, just saying that I find there to be no reason I should know as much as you.
This is why I've never been comfortable with these prerelease sample carts, they're too close to the final production version. Same ROM, production board.
I'm sure I'm in the minority, especially in dreamTR's eyes, but when I think proto, I think dev cart, not one of these.
Dangevin, possibilities of some of them having differences is always key. They just aren't for everyone, but that's just how these protos come about.
In Japan, all prototypes are called Sample carts. IN the US, we combine them all into one, but Sample/Demo could be Reviewable, or Previewable, but they are all bunched into prototype because they are not production carts.
Honestly though, who would fake released protos? It takes a couple of hours of labor to create repro carts, and I have so many different NES protos that I can tell you if they are fake or not. Also, protos can't really be sold on eBay anyway, so no one's really in a money making scheme here faking any.
Heck, there was Mario 2 proto that looked just like one of those without a label, turned out to have differences...you just never know.
end of story!
In that case it seems really easy to start faking these 'protos' then.
This is why I've never been comfortable with these prerelease sample carts, they're too close to the final production version. Same ROM, production board.
I'm sure I'm in the minority, especially in dreamTR's eyes, but when I think proto, I think dev cart, not one of these.
I also agree with you in one way but even samples contain differences sometimes, so it depends.
Very easy to find out who reports them if you remember the name of the seller. Contact them and ask if anyone contacted them on ebay about buying the prototypes after the auctions were pulled.
Limbofunk, not really. That's basically a guessing game. That would mean anyone that contacts them possibly reported it, which doesn't make sense. While I agree it is "possible", it surely is not "probable" in this day and age because not everyone is after protos.