Don't think that is going to happen. Every time Pokemon Distributions take a hit on Ebay I have new members contact me on here as just to buy them.
If the ban is persistent in keeping them off, gurantee they take a hit.
Sure people will come here to buy but when they realize they basically have you sellers cornered, they will dictate more or less a % of the price.
Wishful thinking I guess.
Sure
it sure is wishful thinnking. When you have something someone else wants and its harder to track down being not on ebay, you control them. Its way more wishful on your end
Very interresting article on the First Sale Doctorine.
To me it's obvious that Nintendo couldn't care less that a small handfull of old NFR carts are out there on the used games market. And why should they, they aren't selling these games new anymore anyway. It's not costing them any sales.
Plus it's not like it's this secure resale protection system, someone could just rip off that part of the label, and noone would ever know. Not to mention that a lot of them are backsticker only.
Some people get really pissed about promotional items being sold. I'm not sure why, probaby jealousy, because nobody gave them one to sell. I don't see anything wrong with it.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't most NFR carts stolen from gamestop, and aren't supposed to exist on the market? Aren't all NFR carts supposed to be shipped back to Nintendo and destroyed? Maybe that's why they pulled the plug, because in a way you're selling stolen goods.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't most NFR carts stolen from gamestop, and aren't supposed to exist on the market? Aren't all NFR carts supposed to be shipped back to Nintendo and destroyed? Maybe that's why they pulled the plug, because in a way you're selling stolen goods.
You're misinformed so I will try and help shed more light on this. These carts are rarely stolen from a kiosk. Depending on location and NOA request the Nintendo rep may give the cart to the store manager at end of service(Hardly ever). In the majority of cases the Rep would have to turn the cart in. Some nfrs come out of faulty kiosks. If a kiosk experiences problems the kiosk is removed and replaced with a new one. The old kiosk would still contain the cart it had in it. Nintendo holds garage sales which they liquidate to their employees the opportunity to by many thing including nfr carts(sometimes). Anything that doesn't sell may be liquidated to a few different vendors. So your assumption is 100% incorrect about them being stolen. The reason given for them being pulled is Nintendo's 3rd party company that scans internet auction sites for counterfits and licensing abuse flagged it. Ebay sees not for resale, and that's good enough for them to go with it. Under the first sales doctrine the NFR means nothing after direct distributors. I'm not a vendor/distributor for Nintendo or work for their vendors. The licencing aggreement is between Nintendo and those parties only. Once sold/given away the nfr holds no meaning in the further sale of such item. The parties directly dealing with Nintendo and parties dealing directly with the stores in which distrubute for Nintendo are held under contract to apply to this law. After those end parties distrubte the copies the next party is not under contract with Nintendo. So all previous implications do not apply. Only law that is in effect would be the copy right. If you go back a few pages and read the laws on First Doctrine Right you will see in greter detail the info here. I have been in contact with Ebay, VERO, and NOA. The hold up has been that it was not sent to VERO for flagging by 3rd party. They can not disclose how they were put up to be flagged. After a dozen calls 1 Ebay mentioned they are looking into the account that flagged the auctions... So it was a member and not NOA 3rd party. After the slip up when mentioned again they informed me they could not disclose the information as to why the account was flagged.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't most NFR carts stolen from gamestop, and aren't supposed to exist on the market? Aren't all NFR carts supposed to be shipped back to Nintendo and destroyed? Maybe that's why they pulled the plug, because in a way you're selling stolen goods.
You're misinformed so I will try and help shed more light on this. These carts are rarely stolen from a kiosk. Depending on location and NOA request the Nintendo rep may give the cart to the store manager at end of service(Hardly ever). In the majority of cases the Rep would have to turn the cart in. Some nfrs come out of faulty kiosks. If a kiosk experiences problems the kiosk is removed and replaced with a new one. The old kiosk would still contain the cart it had in it. Nintendo holds garage sales which they liquidate to their employees the opportunity to by many thing including nfr carts(sometimes). Anything that doesn't sell may be liquidated to a few different vendors. So your assumption is 100% incorrect about them being stolen. The reason given for them being pulled is Nintendo's 3rd party company that scans internet auction sites for counterfits and licensing abuse flagged it. Ebay sees not for resale, and that's good enough for them to go with it. Under the first sales doctrine the NFR means nothing after direct distributors. I'm not a vendor/distributor for Nintendo or work for their vendors. The licencing aggreement is between Nintendo and those parties only. Once sold/given away the nfr holds no meaning in the further sale of such item. The parties directly dealing with Nintendo and parties dealing directly with the stores in which distrubute for Nintendo are held under contract to apply to this law. After those end parties distrubte the copies the next party is not under contract with Nintendo. So all previous implications do not apply. Only law that is in effect would be the copy right. If you go back a few pages and read the laws on First Doctrine Right you will see in greter detail the info here. I have been in contact with Ebay, VERO, and NOA. The hold up has been that it was not sent to VERO for flagging by 3rd party. They can not disclose how they were put up to be flagged. After a dozen calls 1 Ebay mentioned they are looking into the account that flagged the auctions... So it was a member and not NOA 3rd party. After the slip up when mentioned again they informed me they could not disclose the information as to why the account was flagged.
I never assumed all of them are stolen, but aren't some still stolen? How do you get all of your nfr carts? Do you know someone who works for Nintendo who goes to these liquidation sales? Thanks for all the info. I was pretty curious about it all.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't most NFR carts stolen from gamestop, and aren't supposed to exist on the market? Aren't all NFR carts supposed to be shipped back to Nintendo and destroyed? Maybe that's why they pulled the plug, because in a way you're selling stolen goods.
You're misinformed so I will try and help shed more light on this. These carts are rarely stolen from a kiosk. Depending on location and NOA request the Nintendo rep may give the cart to the store manager at end of service(Hardly ever). In the majority of cases the Rep would have to turn the cart in. Some nfrs come out of faulty kiosks. If a kiosk experiences problems the kiosk is removed and replaced with a new one. The old kiosk would still contain the cart it had in it. Nintendo holds garage sales which they liquidate to their employees the opportunity to by many thing including nfr carts(sometimes). Anything that doesn't sell may be liquidated to a few different vendors. So your assumption is 100% incorrect about them being stolen. The reason given for them being pulled is Nintendo's 3rd party company that scans internet auction sites for counterfits and licensing abuse flagged it. Ebay sees not for resale, and that's good enough for them to go with it. Under the first sales doctrine the NFR means nothing after direct distributors. I'm not a vendor/distributor for Nintendo or work for their vendors. The licencing aggreement is between Nintendo and those parties only. Once sold/given away the nfr holds no meaning in the further sale of such item. The parties directly dealing with Nintendo and parties dealing directly with the stores in which distrubute for Nintendo are held under contract to apply to this law. After those end parties distrubte the copies the next party is not under contract with Nintendo. So all previous implications do not apply. Only law that is in effect would be the copy right. If you go back a few pages and read the laws on First Doctrine Right you will see in greter detail the info here. I have been in contact with Ebay, VERO, and NOA. The hold up has been that it was not sent to VERO for flagging by 3rd party. They can not disclose how they were put up to be flagged. After a dozen calls 1 Ebay mentioned they are looking into the account that flagged the auctions... So it was a member and not NOA 3rd party. After the slip up when mentioned again they informed me they could not disclose the information as to why the account was flagged.
I never assumed all of them are stolen, but aren't some still stolen? How do you get all of your nfr carts? Do you know someone who works for Nintendo who goes to these liquidation sales? Thanks for all the info. I was pretty curious about it all.
I can only speak for myself and say none of my carts are stolen. Do those types of things happen...yes. Just like with everything else in life that has value could be. Over the years of collecting nfrs I have dealt with tons of collectors. Because of this I have a fairly large network of people to work with. It all comes down to spending the $$$$ to get them.
Back up and running after just over a month of being down. My auctions which were removed have been relisted after 3rd party removal. Turns out if you stick to your guns and prove your legit things will work out. VERO contacted NOA and provided them with all the info and the cases were over turned in my favor.
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Originally posted by: mjwatts26
Why are they targeting you and not the other sellers who have a bunch of NFR's up?
It's believed to be a competitor that flagged them.
Originally posted by: Dochrohan
Originally posted by: JaxsBox
Originally posted by: Dochrohan
Originally posted by: JaxsBox
Originally posted by: Dochrohan
Originally posted by: JaxsBox
Originally posted by: Dochrohan
I´m pretty happy about it to be honest
Why might that be?
Price drop will be coming. Guranteed.
Don't think that is going to happen. Every time Pokemon Distributions take a hit on Ebay I have new members contact me on here as just to buy them.
If the ban is persistent in keeping them off, gurantee they take a hit.
Sure people will come here to buy but when they realize they basically have you sellers cornered, they will dictate more or less a % of the price.
Wishful thinking I guess.
Sure
it sure is wishful thinnking. When you have something someone else wants and its harder to track down being not on ebay, you control them. Its way more wishful on your end
Originally posted by: JaxsBox
This court heard case from a little guy on Ebay vs a big corporation sums up this exact situation. http://www.npr.org/blogs/therecor...
Very interresting article on the First Sale Doctorine.
To me it's obvious that Nintendo couldn't care less that a small handfull of old NFR carts are out there on the used games market. And why should they, they aren't selling these games new anymore anyway. It's not costing them any sales.
Plus it's not like it's this secure resale protection system, someone could just rip off that part of the label, and noone would ever know. Not to mention that a lot of them are backsticker only.
Some people get really pissed about promotional items being sold. I'm not sure why, probaby jealousy, because nobody gave them one to sell. I don't see anything wrong with it.
Originally posted by: yukfou
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't most NFR carts stolen from gamestop, and aren't supposed to exist on the market? Aren't all NFR carts supposed to be shipped back to Nintendo and destroyed? Maybe that's why they pulled the plug, because in a way you're selling stolen goods.
You're misinformed so I will try and help shed more light on this. These carts are rarely stolen from a kiosk. Depending on location and NOA request the Nintendo rep may give the cart to the store manager at end of service(Hardly ever). In the majority of cases the Rep would have to turn the cart in. Some nfrs come out of faulty kiosks. If a kiosk experiences problems the kiosk is removed and replaced with a new one. The old kiosk would still contain the cart it had in it. Nintendo holds garage sales which they liquidate to their employees the opportunity to by many thing including nfr carts(sometimes). Anything that doesn't sell may be liquidated to a few different vendors. So your assumption is 100% incorrect about them being stolen. The reason given for them being pulled is Nintendo's 3rd party company that scans internet auction sites for counterfits and licensing abuse flagged it. Ebay sees not for resale, and that's good enough for them to go with it. Under the first sales doctrine the NFR means nothing after direct distributors. I'm not a vendor/distributor for Nintendo or work for their vendors. The licencing aggreement is between Nintendo and those parties only. Once sold/given away the nfr holds no meaning in the further sale of such item. The parties directly dealing with Nintendo and parties dealing directly with the stores in which distrubute for Nintendo are held under contract to apply to this law. After those end parties distrubte the copies the next party is not under contract with Nintendo. So all previous implications do not apply. Only law that is in effect would be the copy right. If you go back a few pages and read the laws on First Doctrine Right you will see in greter detail the info here. I have been in contact with Ebay, VERO, and NOA. The hold up has been that it was not sent to VERO for flagging by 3rd party. They can not disclose how they were put up to be flagged. After a dozen calls 1 Ebay mentioned they are looking into the account that flagged the auctions... So it was a member and not NOA 3rd party. After the slip up when mentioned again they informed me they could not disclose the information as to why the account was flagged.
Originally posted by: JaxsBox
Originally posted by: yukfou
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't most NFR carts stolen from gamestop, and aren't supposed to exist on the market? Aren't all NFR carts supposed to be shipped back to Nintendo and destroyed? Maybe that's why they pulled the plug, because in a way you're selling stolen goods.
You're misinformed so I will try and help shed more light on this. These carts are rarely stolen from a kiosk. Depending on location and NOA request the Nintendo rep may give the cart to the store manager at end of service(Hardly ever). In the majority of cases the Rep would have to turn the cart in. Some nfrs come out of faulty kiosks. If a kiosk experiences problems the kiosk is removed and replaced with a new one. The old kiosk would still contain the cart it had in it. Nintendo holds garage sales which they liquidate to their employees the opportunity to by many thing including nfr carts(sometimes). Anything that doesn't sell may be liquidated to a few different vendors. So your assumption is 100% incorrect about them being stolen. The reason given for them being pulled is Nintendo's 3rd party company that scans internet auction sites for counterfits and licensing abuse flagged it. Ebay sees not for resale, and that's good enough for them to go with it. Under the first sales doctrine the NFR means nothing after direct distributors. I'm not a vendor/distributor for Nintendo or work for their vendors. The licencing aggreement is between Nintendo and those parties only. Once sold/given away the nfr holds no meaning in the further sale of such item. The parties directly dealing with Nintendo and parties dealing directly with the stores in which distrubute for Nintendo are held under contract to apply to this law. After those end parties distrubte the copies the next party is not under contract with Nintendo. So all previous implications do not apply. Only law that is in effect would be the copy right. If you go back a few pages and read the laws on First Doctrine Right you will see in greter detail the info here. I have been in contact with Ebay, VERO, and NOA. The hold up has been that it was not sent to VERO for flagging by 3rd party. They can not disclose how they were put up to be flagged. After a dozen calls 1 Ebay mentioned they are looking into the account that flagged the auctions... So it was a member and not NOA 3rd party. After the slip up when mentioned again they informed me they could not disclose the information as to why the account was flagged.
I never assumed all of them are stolen, but aren't some still stolen? How do you get all of your nfr carts? Do you know someone who works for Nintendo who goes to these liquidation sales? Thanks for all the info. I was pretty curious about it all.
Originally posted by: yukfou
Originally posted by: JaxsBox
Originally posted by: yukfou
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't most NFR carts stolen from gamestop, and aren't supposed to exist on the market? Aren't all NFR carts supposed to be shipped back to Nintendo and destroyed? Maybe that's why they pulled the plug, because in a way you're selling stolen goods.
You're misinformed so I will try and help shed more light on this. These carts are rarely stolen from a kiosk. Depending on location and NOA request the Nintendo rep may give the cart to the store manager at end of service(Hardly ever). In the majority of cases the Rep would have to turn the cart in. Some nfrs come out of faulty kiosks. If a kiosk experiences problems the kiosk is removed and replaced with a new one. The old kiosk would still contain the cart it had in it. Nintendo holds garage sales which they liquidate to their employees the opportunity to by many thing including nfr carts(sometimes). Anything that doesn't sell may be liquidated to a few different vendors. So your assumption is 100% incorrect about them being stolen. The reason given for them being pulled is Nintendo's 3rd party company that scans internet auction sites for counterfits and licensing abuse flagged it. Ebay sees not for resale, and that's good enough for them to go with it. Under the first sales doctrine the NFR means nothing after direct distributors. I'm not a vendor/distributor for Nintendo or work for their vendors. The licencing aggreement is between Nintendo and those parties only. Once sold/given away the nfr holds no meaning in the further sale of such item. The parties directly dealing with Nintendo and parties dealing directly with the stores in which distrubute for Nintendo are held under contract to apply to this law. After those end parties distrubte the copies the next party is not under contract with Nintendo. So all previous implications do not apply. Only law that is in effect would be the copy right. If you go back a few pages and read the laws on First Doctrine Right you will see in greter detail the info here. I have been in contact with Ebay, VERO, and NOA. The hold up has been that it was not sent to VERO for flagging by 3rd party. They can not disclose how they were put up to be flagged. After a dozen calls 1 Ebay mentioned they are looking into the account that flagged the auctions... So it was a member and not NOA 3rd party. After the slip up when mentioned again they informed me they could not disclose the information as to why the account was flagged.
I never assumed all of them are stolen, but aren't some still stolen? How do you get all of your nfr carts? Do you know someone who works for Nintendo who goes to these liquidation sales? Thanks for all the info. I was pretty curious about it all.
I can only speak for myself and say none of my carts are stolen. Do those types of things happen...yes. Just like with everything else in life that has value could be. Over the years of collecting nfrs I have dealt with tons of collectors. Because of this I have a fairly large network of people to work with. It all comes down to spending the $$$$ to get them.