The code BPRE on the label is also found on the left chip on each board. That's a pretty good indicator they are legit. Pirates typically don't print custom IDs on chips.
What I'm having trouble seeing in that label are numbers imprinted in the label. Typically, they're somewhere on the right side of the label, either close to or sometimes imprinted into the Nintendo seal. However, I'm seeing what looks to be a 4 at the top of the seal...maybe you can confirm they're there. If they are, it's a legit label, too. There should be two numbers right beside each other, like "22" or "00" or something like that.
That being said, if it's legit, the discoloration might have been caused by the environment it was stored in, or just a reaction from something or someone touching it over the years. I'm not sure if the same issues would be present here, but it's a common problem with older foil baseball cards:
Wow, too bad I can't give you a thumbs Philosoraptor! Indeed, there is a hidden 4 stamped right on the nintendo seal. Very hard to see. Under that I can barely make out what might be an F
Yeah, you're good then. All licensed GB, GBC, and GBA games should have numbers like that stamped into their labels, for future reference. Most of the time, they're clearer, though.
0 is a ROM chip-specific marking. It means the game is revision 0, or version 1.0.
A version 1.1 for an NES game would look like:
NES-3N-1
For example, Zelda 1 and SMB3 both have version 1.0 and 1.1 PRG ROM chips. If ever a game is bugfixed or updated, very seldomly is the CHR ROM ever modified, it only contains graphics. It's easier to patch stuff into the PRG ROM.
I have a copy of mega man x3, all the part numbers match up and the code on the ROM (SNS-AR3E-USA)
What throws me is that the chip not only has that printed on it but also toshiba and a part number. I have tried to find other peoples boards for the game along with the one on snescentral without much luck, but none of what I have found has this on it...on the other hand if someone was going to make a fake, why print the codes at all or make everything else match up?
I did try a google hunt without much luck so hopefully one of you lovely people can set my mind at ease and tell me they just have that sometimes
I have a copy of mega man x3, all the part numbers match up and the code on the ROM (SNS-AR3E-USA)
What throws me is that the chip not only has that printed on it but also toshiba and a part number. I have tried to find other peoples boards for the game along with the one on snescentral without much luck, but none of what I have found has this on it...on the other hand if someone was going to make a fake, why print the codes at all or make everything else match up?
I did try a google hunt without much luck so hopefully one of you lovely people can set my mind at ease and tell me they just have that sometimes
Thanks!
Looks good dude; sometimes the Mask Rom has a brand like Toshiba on it. It's got all the characteristics of a legit X3. They don't yet go to this much effort to pass a fake
I have a copy of mega man x3, all the part numbers match up and the code on the ROM (SNS-AR3E-USA)
What throws me is that the chip not only has that printed on it but also toshiba and a part number. I have tried to find other peoples boards for the game along with the one on snescentral without much luck, but none of what I have found has this on it...on the other hand if someone was going to make a fake, why print the codes at all or make everything else match up?
I did try a google hunt without much luck so hopefully one of you lovely people can set my mind at ease and tell me they just have that sometimes
Thanks!
Just checked the Mask ROMs I saved from making repros, MXIC and Toshiba did put their company name on the chips, I think the ones that are not branded and made by Hitachi. You're good, I checked my chips and found chips from all 3 for the same game
so I'm pretty new to this stuff but I always hear folks mention wanting to see the circuit board before purchasing rarer games. I was wondering how one is able to verify a games authenticity by looking at its board? Is there some sort of known serial number printed on it?
Am I the only one having trouble getting on the NesCart Database site today? Does anything know if the site is down?
so I'm pretty new to this stuff but I always hear folks mention wanting to see the circuit board before purchasing rarer games. I was wondering how one is able to verify a games authenticity by looking at its board? Is there some sort of known serial number printed on it?
Am I the only one having trouble getting on the NesCart Database site today? Does anything know if the site is down?
bootgod? been down. Disk crash.
Use the Wayback machine to access a snapshot for now.
so I'm pretty new to this stuff but I always hear folks mention wanting to see the circuit board before purchasing rarer games. I was wondering how one is able to verify a games authenticity by looking at its board? Is there some sort of known serial number printed on it?
Am I the only one having trouble getting on the NesCart Database site today? Does anything know if the site is down?
bootgod? been down. Disk crash.
Use the Wayback machine to access a snapshot for now.
Oh snap, Any chance it will be up again soon? Thanks!
I seem to recall it being stated that he had a solid backup, then I read that thread about him needing/wanting to send off his drives for data recovery. Anybody have any idea what that's all about? Maybe a big update that didn't get backed up or something?
Good afternoon. So I ended up picking up the copy of Bonk's that I inquired about yesterday (In the wrong thread...) The background on the cart was it was purchased from someone out of Rhode Island that got it here from someone on NA but I can't recall his name at the moment. I feel good about the seller and his backstory along with the cart and board but because the NESCart Date base has been down I was just looking for a second opinion to verify the board and label. Thanks~
Good afternoon. So I ended up picking up the copy of Bonk's that I inquired about yesterday (In the wrong thread...) The background on the cart was it was purchased from someone out of Rhode Island that got it here from someone on NA but I can't recall his name at the moment. I feel good about the seller and his backstory along with the cart and board but because the NESCart Date base has been down I was just looking for a second opinion to verify the board and label. Thanks~
Looks good to me. btw the NA game db has label scans to compare with. Nice pickup.
Good afternoon. So I ended up picking up the copy of Bonk's that I inquired about yesterday (In the wrong thread...) The background on the cart was it was purchased from someone out of Rhode Island that got it here from someone on NA but I can't recall his name at the moment. I feel good about the seller and his backstory along with the cart and board but because the NESCart Date base has been down I was just looking for a second opinion to verify the board and label. Thanks~
Looks good to me. btw the NA game db has label scans to compare with. Nice pickup.
very useful thread. amazing work. Started to collect back some SNES game back. Got a LTTP copy and although the rom chip have the right information, some item on the PCB looks off based on what i can see here and snes central and thiught asking here would help me as to how much crazy I need to go when inspecting my games (and before i get more expensives copies):
1- Back of board soldering seem to be good for the one that are done but not all of the "holes" are soldered and don't see this on any board on SNES central or this site that has un-soldered holes where my PCB has. The ones that bother me the most are circled.
2- Also the ROM chip has the right label on it. However the CIC chip is always listed as D411A but mine is D411
3- The manufacturing date 9327 but mine is 9221
I assumes variant existed and for games that are common people won't go to too much effort to make fake copies but wanted to get expert advise on the topics to understand how precise the information has to match. thanks for the feedback.
Looks good, it is an older version of the board, my SMW uses a similar board with a 193, it was before they started making the MAD-1 for the address mapping.
OK guys I need a little help. I recently bought Mega Man 7 from E Bay. I was wondering if you could tell if it's legit or fake from looking at the pictures. I want to avoid opening it up to find out. Got the worst luck when it comes to screws. https://m.ebay.com/itm/mega-man-7-snes-Misssing-Lable-/263227679346?txnId=0
OK guys I need a little help. I recently bought Mega Man 7 from E Bay. I was wondering if you could tell if it's legit or fake from looking at the pictures. I want to avoid opening it up to find out. Got the worst luck when it comes to screws. https://m.ebay.com/itm/mega-man-7...
The seller did himself no favors by posting that edge connector. All SNES PCB boards have chamfered edges (to ease cartridge insertion) and some variation of these little extended tips on the very edge of the connector.
sorry bud, that's a bootleg cart that you've got there.
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That being said, if it's legit, the discoloration might have been caused by the environment it was stored in, or just a reaction from something or someone touching it over the years. I'm not sure if the same issues would be present here, but it's a common problem with older foil baseball cards:
https://forums.collectors.com/messageview.aspx?catid=11&threadid=862652
Glad we could be of some help!
I won lot of all 3 ninja gaidens the other day and they game in today. When I opened up #3 to clean it, I checked and the rom read
NES-3N-0
And the forum said it should say NES-3N-USA
The 0 is just the region code for the NTSC right?
A version 1.1 for an NES game would look like:
NES-3N-1
For example, Zelda 1 and SMB3 both have version 1.0 and 1.1 PRG ROM chips. If ever a game is bugfixed or updated, very seldomly is the CHR ROM ever modified, it only contains graphics. It's easier to patch stuff into the PRG ROM.
I have a copy of mega man x3, all the part numbers match up and the code on the ROM (SNS-AR3E-USA)
What throws me is that the chip not only has that printed on it but also toshiba and a part number. I have tried to find other peoples boards for the game along with the one on snescentral without much luck, but none of what I have found has this on it...on the other hand if someone was going to make a fake, why print the codes at all or make everything else match up?
I did try a google hunt without much luck so hopefully one of you lovely people can set my mind at ease and tell me they just have that sometimes
Thanks!
Hi all, quick question hopefully not too stupid!
I have a copy of mega man x3, all the part numbers match up and the code on the ROM (SNS-AR3E-USA)
What throws me is that the chip not only has that printed on it but also toshiba and a part number. I have tried to find other peoples boards for the game along with the one on snescentral without much luck, but none of what I have found has this on it...on the other hand if someone was going to make a fake, why print the codes at all or make everything else match up?
I did try a google hunt without much luck so hopefully one of you lovely people can set my mind at ease and tell me they just have that sometimes
Thanks!
Looks good dude; sometimes the Mask Rom has a brand like Toshiba on it. It's got all the characteristics of a legit X3. They don't yet go to this much effort to pass a fake
http://www.snescentral.com/pcbboards.php?chip=SHVC-1DC0N-01
Hi all, quick question hopefully not too stupid!
I have a copy of mega man x3, all the part numbers match up and the code on the ROM (SNS-AR3E-USA)
What throws me is that the chip not only has that printed on it but also toshiba and a part number. I have tried to find other peoples boards for the game along with the one on snescentral without much luck, but none of what I have found has this on it...on the other hand if someone was going to make a fake, why print the codes at all or make everything else match up?
I did try a google hunt without much luck so hopefully one of you lovely people can set my mind at ease and tell me they just have that sometimes
Thanks!
Just checked the Mask ROMs I saved from making repros, MXIC and Toshiba did put their company name on the chips, I think the ones that are not branded and made by Hitachi. You're good, I checked my chips and found chips from all 3 for the same game
so I'm pretty new to this stuff but I always hear folks mention wanting to see the circuit board before purchasing rarer games. I was wondering how one is able to verify a games authenticity by looking at its board? Is there some sort of known serial number printed on it?
Am I the only one having trouble getting on the NesCart Database site today? Does anything know if the site is down?
so I'm pretty new to this stuff but I always hear folks mention wanting to see the circuit board before purchasing rarer games. I was wondering how one is able to verify a games authenticity by looking at its board? Is there some sort of known serial number printed on it?
Am I the only one having trouble getting on the NesCart Database site today? Does anything know if the site is down?
bootgod? been down. Disk crash.
Use the Wayback machine to access a snapshot for now.
so I'm pretty new to this stuff but I always hear folks mention wanting to see the circuit board before purchasing rarer games. I was wondering how one is able to verify a games authenticity by looking at its board? Is there some sort of known serial number printed on it?
Am I the only one having trouble getting on the NesCart Database site today? Does anything know if the site is down?
bootgod? been down. Disk crash.
Use the Wayback machine to access a snapshot for now.
Oh snap, Any chance it will be up again soon? Thanks!
Good afternoon. So I ended up picking up the copy of Bonk's that I inquired about yesterday (In the wrong thread...) The background on the cart was it was purchased from someone out of Rhode Island that got it here from someone on NA but I can't recall his name at the moment. I feel good about the seller and his backstory along with the cart and board but because the NESCart Date base has been down I was just looking for a second opinion to verify the board and label. Thanks~
Looks good to me. btw the NA game db has label scans to compare with. Nice pickup.
Good afternoon. So I ended up picking up the copy of Bonk's that I inquired about yesterday (In the wrong thread...) The background on the cart was it was purchased from someone out of Rhode Island that got it here from someone on NA but I can't recall his name at the moment. I feel good about the seller and his backstory along with the cart and board but because the NESCart Date base has been down I was just looking for a second opinion to verify the board and label. Thanks~
Looks good to me. btw the NA game db has label scans to compare with. Nice pickup.
Thank you sir!
very useful thread. amazing work. Started to collect back some SNES game back. Got a LTTP copy and although the rom chip have the right information, some item on the PCB looks off based on what i can see here and snes central and thiught asking here would help me as to how much crazy I need to go when inspecting my games (and before i get more expensives copies):
1- Back of board soldering seem to be good for the one that are done but not all of the "holes" are soldered and don't see this on any board on SNES central or this site that has un-soldered holes where my PCB has. The ones that bother me the most are circled.
2- Also the ROM chip has the right label on it. However the CIC chip is always listed as D411A but mine is D411
3- The manufacturing date 9327 but mine is 9221
I assumes variant existed and for games that are common people won't go to too much effort to make fake copies but wanted to get expert advise on the topics to understand how precise the information has to match. thanks for the feedback.
2- Also the ROM chip has the right label on it. However the CIC chip is always listed as D411A but mine is D411
3- The manufacturing date 9327 but mine is 9221
Most likely different manufacturing run from the example on the SNES central site.
OK guys I need a little help. I recently bought Mega Man 7 from E Bay. I was wondering if you could tell if it's legit or fake from looking at the pictures. I want to avoid opening it up to find out. Got the worst luck when it comes to screws. https://m.ebay.com/itm/mega-man-7...
The seller did himself no favors by posting that edge connector. All SNES PCB boards have chamfered edges (to ease cartridge insertion) and some variation of these little extended tips on the very edge of the connector.
sorry bud, that's a bootleg cart that you've got there.