Duck Tales: Remastered - Golden Cartridge Press Kit #1/150
Hey guys,
first of all, sorry for any grammar mistakes, but English is not my native language.
I was looking this up, but couldn't find it in the search - maybe it's too rare, hehe.
Over a year ago I received the infamous golden cartridge which Capcom sent out to promote Duck Tales Remastered. It's a fully working NES game running the original DT, repressed in a golden cartridge and it comes within a launch box and some promo flyers - and a certificate that this is limited. Actually only 150 were made, which makes it even more rare than Stadium Events. I used to be a journalist in the game industry so I got this directly from Capcom Europe. It's no fake - just in case they even existed. What might it make even more precious is that my copy is #1/150.
Since I am thinking of getting rid of many of my press kits I got while being a game jounalist (got the press kits to: GoW III and the PSP-Game, Little big planet, Hitman Absolution etc.) I start with this piece and the question in mind: How much might I get for it? I saw someone selling it for like 20k on ebay. This might be a little too high IMHO - or maybe I am just wrong. So what do you guys think? Thanks for your answer!
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Oh, I see. Well $3500 still a lot of money for such a "new" game. I saw some few listings on ebay, but none of them had #1/150, of course. So I was hoping for some addition value
But I to be honest I wasn't ware of this being repro. I actually expected this to be an original cartridge painted gold and with some new stickers on it (like the back where it says #1/150).
Originally posted by: Abstract3000
not an Official game caps its value.
It was backed by Capcom so you can't say it not an official game.
You can say it was created after the lifespan of the system and so people won't consider it part of the NES collection but type of board shouldn't matter.
That is what caps the value. If this was done in 1990 it would be at NWC price levels.
Edit: Jonebone already asked for it. So if you two guys don't own a 3DS or just don't want it, I will hand the code over to him
Originally posted by: buyatari2
Originally posted by: Abstract3000
not an Official game caps its value.
It was backed by Capcom so you can't say it not an official game.
You can say it was created after the lifespan of the system and so people won't consider it part of the NES collection but type of board shouldn't matter.
That is what caps the value. If this was done in 1990 it would be at NWC price levels.
Well considering it uses a standard INL Board that can still be obtained and programmed no special Mask Roms and a cheap white timewalk sticker over the EEProm, Rattle Canned Case, and an ink jet label... I'm going to say the lunch box is about the most difficult thing for someone to be able to make out of their own home office. No Officially pressed ink labels, new housings or proprietary manufactured PCB boards like other games is why I stated it’s not an "official game". Capcom contacted Timewalk who did nothing but make repro games, who called Paul at INL to order a bunch of carts, but if you read the sentence before I stated "Official Promotion" So yes Capcom’s backing does in fact give it value, but at the same time I have a ton of those flash boards laying around and a Kazoo. I would just put one together before spending 3K on one as many others, hence that lowers the value. In the end its actual true value will be what someone is willing to pay for it and that’s only all of best guess.
Originally posted by: Xypher
btw: I just a received a download code for "Mighty Gunvolt" on the 3DS. Unfortunately the code only works on NA's eShop - and not in Europe. So it's useless for me, but might interest one of you guys. To appreciate your help I'd like to share the code with one of you. Just drop me a short pm (offer only valid to those who have responded: Buyatari and Abstract)
Edit: Jonebone already asked for it. So if you two guys don't own a 3DS or just don't want it, I will hand the code over to him
I do have a 3ds but mostly play the WiiU. You can give it to Jonebone.
Originally posted by: Abstract3000
Originally posted by: buyatari2
Originally posted by: Abstract3000
not an Official game caps its value.
It was backed by Capcom so you can't say it not an official game.
You can say it was created after the lifespan of the system and so people won't consider it part of the NES collection but type of board shouldn't matter.
That is what caps the value. If this was done in 1990 it would be at NWC price levels.
Well considering it uses a standard INL Board that can still be obtained and programmed no special Mask Roms and a cheap white timewalk sticker over the EEProm, Rattle Canned Case, and an ink jet label... I'm going to say the lunch box is about the most difficult thing for someone to be able to make out of their own home office. No Officially pressed ink labels, new housings or proprietary manufactured PCB boards like other games is why I stated it’s not an "official game". Capcom contacted Timewalk who did nothing but make repro games, who called Paul at INL to order a bunch of carts, but if you read the sentence before I stated "Official Promotion" So yes Capcom’s backing does in fact give it value, but at the same time I have a ton of those flash boards laying around and a Kazoo. I would just put one together before spending 3K on one as many others, hence that lowers the value. In the end its actual true value will be what someone is willing to pay for it and that’s only all of best guess.
I don't understand your use of the word official. How are the labels not official? They were approved by Capcom so even if they were of the lowest possible quality they would still be official. The type of materials used doesn't make anything official or not. It is the company endorsement and that alone which makes any product official.
Your argument im guessing is that because it would be easy to produce a fake it will keep the prices down. That is always something to consider and you bring up a good point that we need to look at when one shows up.
So I'll bring it up.
If 150 numbered units were given away only to contest winners than how did someone in the press get number 1?
I also happen to have one that is not from the contest. Mine also came directly from someone in the industry and while it is serialized it does not have a number between 1-150 on it. Now and in the past I've been vague on just how it is serialized on purpose just in case something like this were to happen.
No offense to the seller here but I think you should provide us with more specific information on who you are.
As stated this wouldn't be impossible to duplicate. Do you still have your original shipping box or any paperwork from Capcom about this item?
I looked at the auction and it does not give your name or the company that you worked for.
All I need is your name if you are freelance and the company you worked for if you worked for a specific company and I'll verify this.
**Removed Info I can't find source, but in my search I found many forum posts of people stating "anyone who pays a ton of mney for a repro is a Bleeping idiot" or similar to those lines which just confirmed my suspicions that many would see this as not so official, but I can see it in the light of "Official" as you do, I guess I was communicating that with Promotion.
Don't get me wrong The package contains a good amount of value and will be sought after by collectors there is no doubt about that but IMO i don't see this ever gaining the value or prestige as the NWC or NCC carts.
Also buyatari, I am always up for contacting the source on any sort of information, but do you have any contacts in Capcom or know if they would respond? I guess its at least worth a shot right?
Originally posted by: Abstract3000
Also buyatari, I am always up for contacting the source on any sort of information, but do you have any contacts in Capcom or know if they would respond? I guess its at least worth a shot right?
He's texting Capcom now.
Originally posted by: Abstract3000
Also buyatari, I am always up for contacting the source on any sort of information, but do you have any contacts in Capcom or know if they would respond? I guess its at least worth a shot right?
He's texting Capcom now.
If so, he might also ask what's up with the different copies, why some are numbered and some are not.
Well I finally found your auction Xypher, problem is I had to search worldwide. If there is a way for you to post it so it shows up on everyone's(or at least North Americas) eBay site on default search settings you might get a better pool of buyers.
Okay, and how do I do this?
EDIT: the more I think about it the more I am getting unsure if I really should sell it. Maybe I am gonna cancel the auction. But still: if there is a way to prove this as an authentic, just keep asking or contacting Capcom. I am curious myself about what's up with the difference between numbered and not-numbered copies.
The USA press kit is in a gold lunch box right??
Originally posted by: RegularGuyGamer
Originally posted by: Abstract3000
Also buyatari, I am always up for contacting the source on any sort of information, but do you have any contacts in Capcom or know if they would respond? I guess its at least worth a shot right?
He's texting Capcom now.
Sent a quick message and inquired about international shipments on this item. This quote is the meat of the message that I recieved.
There were a few international mailers, but very few.
Originally posted by: Xypher
Originally posted by: Abstract3000
Well I finally found your auction Xypher, problem is I had to search worldwide. If there is a way for you to post it so it shows up on everyone's(or at least North Americas) eBay site on default search settings you might get a better pool of buyers.
Okay, and how do I do this? EDIT: the more I think about it the more I am getting unsure if I really should sell it. Maybe I am gonna cancel the auction. But still: if there is a way to prove this as an authentic, just keep asking or contacting Capcom. I am curious myself about what's up with the difference between numbered and not-numbered copies.
All I need is your name and I'll see if I can verify this for everyone.
Originally posted by: RegularGuyGamer
Originally posted by: Abstract3000
Also buyatari, I am always up for contacting the source on any sort of information, but do you have any contacts in Capcom or know if they would respond? I guess its at least worth a shot right?
He's texting Capcom now.
Sent a quick message and inquired about international shipments on this item. This quote is the meat of the message that I recieved.
There were a few international mailers, but very few.
Yeah, so it is true. When I got this from Capcom Europe their PR guy told me that he only have five kit for entire Europe - one for ever country (PS: where Capcom operates, Europe has more than five countrys of course ;-) one of the reasons I am still not sure whether I should cancel the auction or not... Any news why some are not numbered?
Originally posted by: Lenque
$1000-2000 someone REALLY has to want it and willing to overpay to get anywhere near the 3k even over 2k range man. Over the years I have seen these sell in the 1-2k range and thats where they have hovered.
Well #1 could hold a premium with some.
The wild card with bidders I think will be the PAL factor. This could be good or bad. Most collectors do want NTSC but there are far less PAL carts out there. Have you ever seen a PAL cart sell before? A collector who only collects PAL carts might have his only shot with this one.
Originally posted by: eightbithero
The only weird thing about this is....OP says he's press, but what's confusing is most of the press kits I've seen say AP on them instead of being individually numbered x/150, there's a difference between the two. I believe the numbered ones were from the contest giveaway.
Be nice if a full list of winners was posted here as we did with the NWC carts. Reading over the contest guidelines I saw this. The 3-month deadline has expired but it only costs a stamp to try.
Sponsor: Capcom U.S.A., Inc., 800 Concar Drive, Suite 175, San Mateo, CA 94402. Additional Information: To obtain the winner’s name and/or a copy of these Terms or any Competition Rules, mail a stamped, self-addressed envelope to: Legal Department, Capcom U.S.A., Inc., 800 Concar Drive, Suite 175, San Mateo, CA 94402-2649. Requests for winner information or Competition Rules must be received by Capcom within three months of the date on which the winner of the Competition was chosen.
It's an official contest prize and an official game that Capcom had licensed and done by someone they commissioned. It doesn't matter what anyone things about that, that's the bottom line. If Nintendo did the same thing with any of their games today everyone would flip out as well.
For a game that no one cares about it has sold for $2500-4000 from what I understand, so that's telling so far.
Biggest thing is to have the paperwork/box/tin it came in. You aren't duping all of that mess, but even so, it's still official. Stadium Events boxes I am sure were made in China, games made in Japan, anything can be printed based on wherever, it does not matter...
The reasoning I say it's not official is because of the entire manufacturing process of the game is like none other, the promotion is in fact official but regardless how anyone feels personally or the use of "official" The fact remains the cats out of the bag, Timewalk & INL are the producers and that drops the value!
Again everyone is entitled to their own opinions and I respect that but search google for this game and look at the forum posts and the opinions of other individuals, you will find a good amount who view paying any sort of money for this would be ridiculous, as well many calling it a repro and viewing it just as such. Your welcome to say F*%* them! But on the contrary those are individuals who make up the pool of buyers, the more people who have no interest the less demand. The less demand, the less value its basic economics. I have never heard a collector discuss the NWC cart in a negative light aside from the pricing being absurd, though I have read allot of negative posts on the Ducktales Gold cart.
I personally like the Ducktales cart and thought it was a cool promo idea. I'm not trying to criticize anyone's views on it nor trying to change anyone's view or opinions of the product, The value of the cart was asked and I communicated the values to him of the product and gave my reasoning as to what I saw in relation to the value and why it was. I'm pretty sure my values are pretty close and my reasoning hasn't been disproved but instead of using the word "non official Product" (I see how this could irritate someone who spent a good chunk of change on it and is praying for its appreciation) I will just switch that sentence to "Seen as a Repro by many" and no more need for arguing semantics.
Originally posted by: buyatari2
Originally posted by: Lenque
$1000-2000 someone REALLY has to want it and willing to overpay to get anywhere near the 3k even over 2k range man. Over the years I have seen these sell in the 1-2k range and thats where they have hovered.
Well #1 could hold a premium with some.
The wild card with bidders I think will be the PAL factor. This could be good or bad. Most collectors do want NTSC but there are far less PAL carts out there. Have you ever seen a PAL cart sell before? A collector who only collects PAL carts might have his only shot with this one.
Good lord, I didn't realise this before, but you are right: My cartiridge is a PAL version, which I haven't seen somewhere else before. Just compare my cartridge's label with the one on this page: http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/08/capcom-re-issues-nes-ducktales-as-an-ultra-limited-golden-cartridge/#image-1
USA version is blue, Europe got a white one. So this could explain the number, I got #1/150 of the PAL releases.
Oh, and regarding the definition of the word "official": this mean, it's been approved by publishers and/or comes directly from them. And even if it's a repro, it's still an official one. It hasn't been released in the 80s or 90s, right; if so, prices for it might raise up to NWC or similar. But that's not what I'm talking about. It's an official and limited release, I think that's what counts in the end. But everyone is allowed to make his own opinion on that, free speech and so on