In short, why would someone pay 5k for this? Is it because they love Duck Tales and think this is a great item or is it because they consider this a must have to complete the NES collection?
Not for a complete NES set, but for a complete Timewalk set, who is a now defunct manufacturer, and perhaps the most coveted in the reproduction scene. This is probably the grail within that set and his only release that got nationwide publicity.
Yeah, all about the hype, no matter what the price is or becomes. Because their Big Box Metroid Redesign or Sweet Home 2011 are definitely rarer than the Capcom Ducktales to me, but have sold for a fraction of the price of this thing.
The NES I refer to is an era of Nintendo history which is over. A cartridge can work in an NES era system and still not be an NES era cartridge. Your Sherman tank parts are still not WWII Sherman tank parts. You can say this is a Duck Tales cart if you like. You can say that it works with the Nintendo Entertainment System but that doesn't make it an NES cart.
You did not say "NES ERA cartridge", earlier. You said "NES cartridge".
The two are different things, and you are using them interchangeably.
An "NES era cartridge" is the same as a "vintage NES cartridge", like I suggested earlier.
But ANY cartridge that works on the NES without an adapter would probably be considered an "NES cartridge" regardless of date of manufacture, just because it is a cartridge designed to work on the NES with no other criteria required.
And you're right, those parts wouldn't be WW2-era parts, but they WOULD be "Sherman tank parts".
Just like this IS an "NES cartridge" by definition of its function alone.
Yes "NES era cartridge" = "vintage NES cartridge" = "real NES cartridge" = "NES cartridge"
You have an F2 cart from the 1990s and you have an F2 cart made last week.
The ebay auction title reads only - Flintstones 2 NES cart
Is that title accurate for the one made in the 1990s, for the one made in 2014 or for both?
The idea that all NES carts produced during the lifespan of the system now need to furnish additional adjectives to describe what they already are without the adjective is insane. The adjective should be required of those cartridges that do not meet the full definition of what the word is and what it implies.
Duck Tales from 1990 can be called simply an NES cart and be fully 100% accurate without the additional requirement of any adjectives.
The one produced a few years ago NEEDS adjective to provide full discloser that it is indeed not the same as carts produced during the lifespan of the system.
You add an adjective or two such as real or genuine if you feel the need to an NES cart made during the lifespan of the system but you shouldn't have to. The word NES already implies it.
The word "NES" does not necessarily imply date of manufacture.
The ONLY thing it guarantees is that the game is designed to play on the NES.
THAT is the definition of an "NES cart".
Current-production homebrew games are "NES carts".
Reproductions are "NES carts".
Original vintage games are "NES carts".
Sachen titles are "NES carts".
Action 52 (new or old production) is an "NES cart".
It is a definition based on functionality and design alone, with absolutely no other criteria.
Yes "NES era cartridge" = "vintage NES cartridge" = "real NES cartridge" = "NES cartridge"
"aftermarket NES cartridge" ≠ "NES cartridge"
Would you consider an after market fender for a car a fender, or a "fender like device" because it wasn't engineered by someone at a major brand name car manufacturer? It's not an OEM part, but it's still a fender. Same applies here.
Yes "NES era cartridge" = "vintage NES cartridge" = "real NES cartridge" = "NES cartridge"
"aftermarket NES cartridge" ≠ "NES cartridge"
Would you consider an after market fender for a car a fender, or a "fender like device" because it wasn't engineered by someone at a major brand name car manufacturer? It's not an OEM part, but it's still a fender. Same applies here.
If it was a replacement part for a car that was no longer in production and no longer supported say like the Delorean. You would then need to add an adjective of some type to any parts to state that was not a vintage part if you wanted your description of the part to be accurate.
Yes "NES era cartridge" = "vintage NES cartridge" = "real NES cartridge" = "NES cartridge"
"aftermarket NES cartridge" ≠ "NES cartridge"
Would you consider an after market fender for a car a fender, or a "fender like device" because it wasn't engineered by someone at a major brand name car manufacturer? It's not an OEM part, but it's still a fender. Same applies here.
If it was a replacement part for a car that was no longer in production and no longer supported say like the Delorean. You would then need to add an adjective of some type to any parts to state that was not a vintage part if you wanted your description of the part to be accurate.
Of course it would be noted it's not OEM, but that still doesn't make it any less of a fender. Just like these aren't any less of a NES cartridge. Just like brand new PCB's, they're PCB's for NES games to be used on NES consoles, thus they're NES pcb's. Are they OEM? No. Nobody is claiming as such. I fail to see where the issue lies...
Yes "NES era cartridge" = "vintage NES cartridge" = "real NES cartridge" = "NES cartridge"
"aftermarket NES cartridge" ≠ "NES cartridge"
Would you consider an after market fender for a car a fender, or a "fender like device" because it wasn't engineered by someone at a major brand name car manufacturer? It's not an OEM part, but it's still a fender. Same applies here.
If it was a replacement part for a car that was no longer in production and no longer supported say like the Delorean. You would then need to add an adjective of some type to any parts to state that was not a vintage part if you wanted your description of the part to be accurate.
Of course it would be noted it's not OEM, but that still doesn't make it any less of a fender. Just like these aren't any less of a NES cartridge. Just like brand new PCB's, they're PCB's for NES games to be used on NES consoles, thus they're NES pcb's. Are they OEM? No. Nobody is claiming as such. I fail to see where the issue lies...
If I tell you that I have a "model t steering wheel" that is not accurate if it turns out it is a modern reproduction. What I really have is a (insert adjective) model t steering wheel. The adjective like "authentic" "vintage" and "genuine" etc are not required when selling a real genuine vintage wheel as they are implied to the word model T when they are not used. Therefore, to sell a wheel that is not those things without such an adjective would be to incorrectly describe the product.
Yes "NES era cartridge" = "vintage NES cartridge" = "real NES cartridge" = "NES cartridge"
"aftermarket NES cartridge" ≠ "NES cartridge"
Would you consider an after market fender for a car a fender, or a "fender like device" because it wasn't engineered by someone at a major brand name car manufacturer? It's not an OEM part, but it's still a fender. Same applies here.
If it was a replacement part for a car that was no longer in production and no longer supported say like the Delorean. You would then need to add an adjective of some type to any parts to state that was not a vintage part if you wanted your description of the part to be accurate.
Of course it would be noted it's not OEM, but that still doesn't make it any less of a fender. Just like these aren't any less of a NES cartridge. Just like brand new PCB's, they're PCB's for NES games to be used on NES consoles, thus they're NES pcb's. Are they OEM? No. Nobody is claiming as such. I fail to see where the issue lies...
If I tell you that I have a "model t steering wheel" that is not accurate if it turns out it is a modern reproduction. What I really have is a (insert adjective) model t steering wheel. The adjective like "authentic" "vintage" and "genuine" etc are not required when selling a real genuine vintage wheel as they are implied to the word model T when they are not used. Therefore, to sell a wheel that is not those things without such an adjective would be to incorrectly describe the product.
You're missing the keyword aftermarket. That assumes the product is not being sold as an authentic replica or intents of deception, quit being obtuse for no other reason than to just be difficult. It still would be call the same component, regardless. It's still a steering wheel. It's still a steering wheel for a model t. An aftermarket NES cart shell is still very much a cartridge shell for a NES game.
Yes "NES era cartridge" = "vintage NES cartridge" = "real NES cartridge" = "NES cartridge"
"aftermarket NES cartridge" ≠ "NES cartridge"
Would you consider an after market fender for a car a fender, or a "fender like device" because it wasn't engineered by someone at a major brand name car manufacturer? It's not an OEM part, but it's still a fender. Same applies here.
If it was a replacement part for a car that was no longer in production and no longer supported say like the Delorean. You would then need to add an adjective of some type to any parts to state that was not a vintage part if you wanted your description of the part to be accurate.
Of course it would be noted it's not OEM, but that still doesn't make it any less of a fender. Just like these aren't any less of a NES cartridge. Just like brand new PCB's, they're PCB's for NES games to be used on NES consoles, thus they're NES pcb's. Are they OEM? No. Nobody is claiming as such. I fail to see where the issue lies...
If I tell you that I have a "model t steering wheel" that is not accurate if it turns out it is a modern reproduction. What I really have is a (insert adjective) model t steering wheel. The adjective like "authentic" "vintage" and "genuine" etc are not required when selling a real genuine vintage wheel as they are implied to the word model T when they are not used. Therefore, to sell a wheel that is not those things without such an adjective would be to incorrectly describe the product.
You're missing the keyword aftermarket. That assumes the product is not being sold as an authentic replica or intents of deception, quit being obtuse for no other reason than to just be difficult. It still would be call the same component, regardless. It's still a steering wheel. It's still a steering wheel for a model t. An aftermarket NES cart shell is still very much a cartridge shell for a NES game.
It sounds you agree with everything I have said. Your "aftermarket Ford model t steering wheel" and your "aftermarket Delorean bumper" are fine and accurate representations of your products.
Yes "NES era cartridge" = "vintage NES cartridge" = "real NES cartridge" = "NES cartridge"
"aftermarket NES cartridge" ≠ "NES cartridge"
Would you consider an after market fender for a car a fender, or a "fender like device" because it wasn't engineered by someone at a major brand name car manufacturer? It's not an OEM part, but it's still a fender. Same applies here.
If it was a replacement part for a car that was no longer in production and no longer supported say like the Delorean. You would then need to add an adjective of some type to any parts to state that was not a vintage part if you wanted your description of the part to be accurate.
Of course it would be noted it's not OEM, but that still doesn't make it any less of a fender. Just like these aren't any less of a NES cartridge. Just like brand new PCB's, they're PCB's for NES games to be used on NES consoles, thus they're NES pcb's. Are they OEM? No. Nobody is claiming as such. I fail to see where the issue lies...
If I tell you that I have a "model t steering wheel" that is not accurate if it turns out it is a modern reproduction. What I really have is a (insert adjective) model t steering wheel. The adjective like "authentic" "vintage" and "genuine" etc are not required when selling a real genuine vintage wheel as they are implied to the word model T when they are not used. Therefore, to sell a wheel that is not those things without such an adjective would be to incorrectly describe the product.
You're missing the keyword aftermarket. That assumes the product is not being sold as an authentic replica or intents of deception, quit being obtuse for no other reason than to just be difficult. It still would be call the same component, regardless. It's still a steering wheel. It's still a steering wheel for a model t. An aftermarket NES cart shell is still very much a cartridge shell for a NES game.
It sounds you agree with everything I have said. Your "aftermarket Ford model t steering wheel" and your "aftermarket Delorean bumper" are fine and accurate representations of your products.
If you're saying an aftermarket NES cartridge = NES cartridge, then yes.
Yes "NES era cartridge" = "vintage NES cartridge" = "real NES cartridge" = "NES cartridge"
"aftermarket NES cartridge" ≠ "NES cartridge"
Would you consider an after market fender for a car a fender, or a "fender like device" because it wasn't engineered by someone at a major brand name car manufacturer? It's not an OEM part, but it's still a fender. Same applies here.
If it was a replacement part for a car that was no longer in production and no longer supported say like the Delorean. You would then need to add an adjective of some type to any parts to state that was not a vintage part if you wanted your description of the part to be accurate.
Of course it would be noted it's not OEM, but that still doesn't make it any less of a fender. Just like these aren't any less of a NES cartridge. Just like brand new PCB's, they're PCB's for NES games to be used on NES consoles, thus they're NES pcb's. Are they OEM? No. Nobody is claiming as such. I fail to see where the issue lies...
If I tell you that I have a "model t steering wheel" that is not accurate if it turns out it is a modern reproduction. What I really have is a (insert adjective) model t steering wheel. The adjective like "authentic" "vintage" and "genuine" etc are not required when selling a real genuine vintage wheel as they are implied to the word model T when they are not used. Therefore, to sell a wheel that is not those things without such an adjective would be to incorrectly describe the product.
You're missing the keyword aftermarket. That assumes the product is not being sold as an authentic replica or intents of deception, quit being obtuse for no other reason than to just be difficult. It still would be call the same component, regardless. It's still a steering wheel. It's still a steering wheel for a model t. An aftermarket NES cart shell is still very much a cartridge shell for a NES game.
It sounds you agree with everything I have said. Your "aftermarket Ford model t steering wheel" and your "aftermarket Delorean bumper" are fine and accurate representations of your products.
If you're saying an aftermarket NES cartridge = NES cartridge, then yes.
If you don't add the word aftermarket to any aftermarket product then it is not accurate. All adjectives do not work the same way. The adjective "aftermarket" is not a descriptive adjective like "new" "used" "complete" or "loose". It is a qualifier and thus changes the actual meaning of the noun. So to include it or not gives you two different nouns.
I'm not doing this just to be difficult and I do have a real point to all of this. Consider this point that I brought up in another thread.
If a "NES cart" really is any cart that works in the NES including all aftermarket carts then how can a "complete NES cart collection" not include them? The adjective complete does nothing to limit the scope.
Something is wrong there. Logically it makes no sense to suggest that both are true.
This cart was made using new materials, nothing recycled. It was commissioned by Capcom and is a valid licensed and copyright approved release. Since it was a giveaway and very hard to get your hands on, I believe that is why this is so valuable. This isn't just a mere reproduction, it's a press kit from Capcom and has a very rare NES cart.
BTW, "NES Cart" by definition means cartridge playable on a Nintendo Entertainment System. That's simply a fact.
This game is a NES cart and is the actual release "ducktales" game from Capcom. The best way I can help explain this is using books. This game is not a first edition. This is a later edition and a rare variant at that due to quantity and distribution. So I hope that clarifies that game argument from a factual standpoint.
This is a later edition, rare variant, licensed and copyrighted, NES cart commissioned by Capcom.
Then what is the Mega Man 9 press kit that was also officially published and released by Capcom? It also contains an NES cart... though it is not playable, but it is an official NES cart shell.
So because one is playable and one is not, the difference is $5,000 to $400? Really doubt it, just rampant hype and speculation.
Then what is the Mega Man 9 press kit that was also officially published and released by Capcom? It also contains an NES cart... though it is not playable, but it is an official NES cart shell.
So because one is playable and one is not, the difference is $5,000 to $400? Really doubt it, just rampant hype and speculation.
If that Megaman 9 press kit was instead a playable version of Megaman 9 the price would be in the thousands for sure.
My guess is he drew the legs first and then realized that if he drew the rest of the figure at an angle consistent with the legs that half the figure would be covered by the left chin in the foreground, and just didn't bother to fix it, Liefeld style. Pretty frickin lazy to not fix it
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Originally posted by: jonebone
Originally posted by: buyatari2
In short, why would someone pay 5k for this? Is it because they love Duck Tales and think this is a great item or is it because they consider this a must have to complete the NES collection?
Yeah, all about the hype, no matter what the price is or becomes. Because their Big Box Metroid Redesign or Sweet Home 2011 are definitely rarer than the Capcom Ducktales to me, but have sold for a fraction of the price of this thing.
Originally posted by: arch_8ngel
Originally posted by: buyatari2
The NES I refer to is an era of Nintendo history which is over. A cartridge can work in an NES era system and still not be an NES era cartridge. Your Sherman tank parts are still not WWII Sherman tank parts. You can say this is a Duck Tales cart if you like. You can say that it works with the Nintendo Entertainment System but that doesn't make it an NES cart.
You did not say "NES ERA cartridge", earlier. You said "NES cartridge".
The two are different things, and you are using them interchangeably.
An "NES era cartridge" is the same as a "vintage NES cartridge", like I suggested earlier.
But ANY cartridge that works on the NES without an adapter would probably be considered an "NES cartridge" regardless of date of manufacture, just because it is a cartridge designed to work on the NES with no other criteria required.
And you're right, those parts wouldn't be WW2-era parts, but they WOULD be "Sherman tank parts".
Just like this IS an "NES cartridge" by definition of its function alone.
Yes "NES era cartridge" = "vintage NES cartridge" = "real NES cartridge" = "NES cartridge"
"aftermarket NES cartridge" ≠ "NES cartridge"
Originally posted by: buyatari2
I'll make this easy.
You have an F2 cart from the 1990s and you have an F2 cart made last week.
The ebay auction title reads only - Flintstones 2 NES cart
Is that title accurate for the one made in the 1990s, for the one made in 2014 or for both?
The idea that all NES carts produced during the lifespan of the system now need to furnish additional adjectives to describe what they already are without the adjective is insane. The adjective should be required of those cartridges that do not meet the full definition of what the word is and what it implies.
Duck Tales from 1990 can be called simply an NES cart and be fully 100% accurate without the additional requirement of any adjectives.
The one produced a few years ago NEEDS adjective to provide full discloser that it is indeed not the same as carts produced during the lifespan of the system.
You add an adjective or two such as real or genuine if you feel the need to an NES cart made during the lifespan of the system but you shouldn't have to. The word NES already implies it.
The word "NES" does not necessarily imply date of manufacture.
The ONLY thing it guarantees is that the game is designed to play on the NES.
THAT is the definition of an "NES cart".
Current-production homebrew games are "NES carts".
Reproductions are "NES carts".
Original vintage games are "NES carts".
Sachen titles are "NES carts".
Action 52 (new or old production) is an "NES cart".
It is a definition based on functionality and design alone, with absolutely no other criteria.
Nevermind.
We should take a poll in another thread if we want to settle this.
Neither of us gets to arbitrarily set the definition of this word and it is silly to continue the discussion as if we do.
http://www.nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=5&threadid=138867
Let's let the community weigh in and see what the majority thinks.
Its crazy that ducktales cart almost reached SE level. I would still take an SE over that anyday
Originally posted by: arch_8ngel
Nevermind.
We should take a poll in another thread if we want to settle this.
Neither of us gets to arbitrarily set the definition of this word and it is silly to continue the discussion as if we do.
http://www.nintendoage.com/forum/...
Let's let the community weigh in and see what the majority thinks.
Adjectives like real,genuine,authentic should never be required as they are implied but yes they are still used by some for clairification.
Originally posted by: buyatari2
Originally posted by: arch_8ngel
Nevermind.
We should take a poll in another thread if we want to settle this.
Neither of us gets to arbitrarily set the definition of this word and it is silly to continue the discussion as if we do.
http://www.nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=5&...
Let's let the community weigh in and see what the majority thinks.
Adjectives like real,genuine,authentic should never be required as they are implied but yes they are still used by some for clairification.
I would contend that a homebrew release IS a "genuine"/"authentic" NES cart. It just isn't a vintage NES cart.
Originally posted by: arch_8ngel
Nevermind.
We should take a poll in another thread if we want to settle this.
Neither of us gets to arbitrarily set the definition of this word and it is silly to continue the discussion as if we do.
http://www.nintendoage.com/forum/...
Let's let the community weigh in and see what the majority thinks.
Ive added poll with the F2 example presented.
Originally posted by: buyatari2
Yes "NES era cartridge" = "vintage NES cartridge" = "real NES cartridge" = "NES cartridge"
"aftermarket NES cartridge" ≠ "NES cartridge"
Would you consider an after market fender for a car a fender, or a "fender like device" because it wasn't engineered by someone at a major brand name car manufacturer? It's not an OEM part, but it's still a fender. Same applies here.
Originally posted by: dra600n
Originally posted by: buyatari2
Yes "NES era cartridge" = "vintage NES cartridge" = "real NES cartridge" = "NES cartridge"
"aftermarket NES cartridge" ≠ "NES cartridge"
Would you consider an after market fender for a car a fender, or a "fender like device" because it wasn't engineered by someone at a major brand name car manufacturer? It's not an OEM part, but it's still a fender. Same applies here.
If it was a replacement part for a car that was no longer in production and no longer supported say like the Delorean. You would then need to add an adjective of some type to any parts to state that was not a vintage part if you wanted your description of the part to be accurate.
Originally posted by: buyatari2
Originally posted by: dra600n
Originally posted by: buyatari2
Yes "NES era cartridge" = "vintage NES cartridge" = "real NES cartridge" = "NES cartridge"
"aftermarket NES cartridge" ≠ "NES cartridge"
Would you consider an after market fender for a car a fender, or a "fender like device" because it wasn't engineered by someone at a major brand name car manufacturer? It's not an OEM part, but it's still a fender. Same applies here.
If it was a replacement part for a car that was no longer in production and no longer supported say like the Delorean. You would then need to add an adjective of some type to any parts to state that was not a vintage part if you wanted your description of the part to be accurate.
Of course it would be noted it's not OEM, but that still doesn't make it any less of a fender. Just like these aren't any less of a NES cartridge. Just like brand new PCB's, they're PCB's for NES games to be used on NES consoles, thus they're NES pcb's. Are they OEM? No. Nobody is claiming as such. I fail to see where the issue lies...
Originally posted by: dra600n
Originally posted by: buyatari2
Originally posted by: dra600n
Originally posted by: buyatari2
Yes "NES era cartridge" = "vintage NES cartridge" = "real NES cartridge" = "NES cartridge"
"aftermarket NES cartridge" ≠ "NES cartridge"
Would you consider an after market fender for a car a fender, or a "fender like device" because it wasn't engineered by someone at a major brand name car manufacturer? It's not an OEM part, but it's still a fender. Same applies here.
If it was a replacement part for a car that was no longer in production and no longer supported say like the Delorean. You would then need to add an adjective of some type to any parts to state that was not a vintage part if you wanted your description of the part to be accurate.
Of course it would be noted it's not OEM, but that still doesn't make it any less of a fender. Just like these aren't any less of a NES cartridge. Just like brand new PCB's, they're PCB's for NES games to be used on NES consoles, thus they're NES pcb's. Are they OEM? No. Nobody is claiming as such. I fail to see where the issue lies...
If I tell you that I have a "model t steering wheel" that is not accurate if it turns out it is a modern reproduction. What I really have is a (insert adjective) model t steering wheel. The adjective like "authentic" "vintage" and "genuine" etc are not required when selling a real genuine vintage wheel as they are implied to the word model T when they are not used. Therefore, to sell a wheel that is not those things without such an adjective would be to incorrectly describe the product.
Originally posted by: buyatari2
Originally posted by: dra600n
Originally posted by: buyatari2
Originally posted by: dra600n
Originally posted by: buyatari2
Yes "NES era cartridge" = "vintage NES cartridge" = "real NES cartridge" = "NES cartridge"
"aftermarket NES cartridge" ≠ "NES cartridge"
Would you consider an after market fender for a car a fender, or a "fender like device" because it wasn't engineered by someone at a major brand name car manufacturer? It's not an OEM part, but it's still a fender. Same applies here.
If it was a replacement part for a car that was no longer in production and no longer supported say like the Delorean. You would then need to add an adjective of some type to any parts to state that was not a vintage part if you wanted your description of the part to be accurate.
Of course it would be noted it's not OEM, but that still doesn't make it any less of a fender. Just like these aren't any less of a NES cartridge. Just like brand new PCB's, they're PCB's for NES games to be used on NES consoles, thus they're NES pcb's. Are they OEM? No. Nobody is claiming as such. I fail to see where the issue lies...
If I tell you that I have a "model t steering wheel" that is not accurate if it turns out it is a modern reproduction. What I really have is a (insert adjective) model t steering wheel. The adjective like "authentic" "vintage" and "genuine" etc are not required when selling a real genuine vintage wheel as they are implied to the word model T when they are not used. Therefore, to sell a wheel that is not those things without such an adjective would be to incorrectly describe the product.
You're missing the keyword aftermarket. That assumes the product is not being sold as an authentic replica or intents of deception, quit being obtuse for no other reason than to just be difficult. It still would be call the same component, regardless. It's still a steering wheel. It's still a steering wheel for a model t. An aftermarket NES cart shell is still very much a cartridge shell for a NES game.
Originally posted by: dra600n
Originally posted by: buyatari2
Originally posted by: dra600n
Originally posted by: buyatari2
Originally posted by: dra600n
Originally posted by: buyatari2
Yes "NES era cartridge" = "vintage NES cartridge" = "real NES cartridge" = "NES cartridge"
"aftermarket NES cartridge" ≠ "NES cartridge"
Would you consider an after market fender for a car a fender, or a "fender like device" because it wasn't engineered by someone at a major brand name car manufacturer? It's not an OEM part, but it's still a fender. Same applies here.
If it was a replacement part for a car that was no longer in production and no longer supported say like the Delorean. You would then need to add an adjective of some type to any parts to state that was not a vintage part if you wanted your description of the part to be accurate.
Of course it would be noted it's not OEM, but that still doesn't make it any less of a fender. Just like these aren't any less of a NES cartridge. Just like brand new PCB's, they're PCB's for NES games to be used on NES consoles, thus they're NES pcb's. Are they OEM? No. Nobody is claiming as such. I fail to see where the issue lies...
If I tell you that I have a "model t steering wheel" that is not accurate if it turns out it is a modern reproduction. What I really have is a (insert adjective) model t steering wheel. The adjective like "authentic" "vintage" and "genuine" etc are not required when selling a real genuine vintage wheel as they are implied to the word model T when they are not used. Therefore, to sell a wheel that is not those things without such an adjective would be to incorrectly describe the product.
You're missing the keyword aftermarket. That assumes the product is not being sold as an authentic replica or intents of deception, quit being obtuse for no other reason than to just be difficult. It still would be call the same component, regardless. It's still a steering wheel. It's still a steering wheel for a model t. An aftermarket NES cart shell is still very much a cartridge shell for a NES game.
It sounds you agree with everything I have said. Your "aftermarket Ford model t steering wheel" and your "aftermarket Delorean bumper" are fine and accurate representations of your products.
Originally posted by: buyatari2
Originally posted by: dra600n
Originally posted by: buyatari2
Originally posted by: dra600n
Originally posted by: buyatari2
Originally posted by: dra600n
Originally posted by: buyatari2
Yes "NES era cartridge" = "vintage NES cartridge" = "real NES cartridge" = "NES cartridge"
"aftermarket NES cartridge" ≠ "NES cartridge"
Would you consider an after market fender for a car a fender, or a "fender like device" because it wasn't engineered by someone at a major brand name car manufacturer? It's not an OEM part, but it's still a fender. Same applies here.
If it was a replacement part for a car that was no longer in production and no longer supported say like the Delorean. You would then need to add an adjective of some type to any parts to state that was not a vintage part if you wanted your description of the part to be accurate.
Of course it would be noted it's not OEM, but that still doesn't make it any less of a fender. Just like these aren't any less of a NES cartridge. Just like brand new PCB's, they're PCB's for NES games to be used on NES consoles, thus they're NES pcb's. Are they OEM? No. Nobody is claiming as such. I fail to see where the issue lies...
If I tell you that I have a "model t steering wheel" that is not accurate if it turns out it is a modern reproduction. What I really have is a (insert adjective) model t steering wheel. The adjective like "authentic" "vintage" and "genuine" etc are not required when selling a real genuine vintage wheel as they are implied to the word model T when they are not used. Therefore, to sell a wheel that is not those things without such an adjective would be to incorrectly describe the product.
You're missing the keyword aftermarket. That assumes the product is not being sold as an authentic replica or intents of deception, quit being obtuse for no other reason than to just be difficult. It still would be call the same component, regardless. It's still a steering wheel. It's still a steering wheel for a model t. An aftermarket NES cart shell is still very much a cartridge shell for a NES game.
It sounds you agree with everything I have said. Your "aftermarket Ford model t steering wheel" and your "aftermarket Delorean bumper" are fine and accurate representations of your products.
If you're saying an aftermarket NES cartridge = NES cartridge, then yes.
Originally posted by: dra600n
Originally posted by: buyatari2
Originally posted by: dra600n
Originally posted by: buyatari2
Originally posted by: dra600n
Originally posted by: buyatari2
Originally posted by: dra600n
Originally posted by: buyatari2
Yes "NES era cartridge" = "vintage NES cartridge" = "real NES cartridge" = "NES cartridge"
"aftermarket NES cartridge" ≠ "NES cartridge"
Would you consider an after market fender for a car a fender, or a "fender like device" because it wasn't engineered by someone at a major brand name car manufacturer? It's not an OEM part, but it's still a fender. Same applies here.
If it was a replacement part for a car that was no longer in production and no longer supported say like the Delorean. You would then need to add an adjective of some type to any parts to state that was not a vintage part if you wanted your description of the part to be accurate.
Of course it would be noted it's not OEM, but that still doesn't make it any less of a fender. Just like these aren't any less of a NES cartridge. Just like brand new PCB's, they're PCB's for NES games to be used on NES consoles, thus they're NES pcb's. Are they OEM? No. Nobody is claiming as such. I fail to see where the issue lies...
If I tell you that I have a "model t steering wheel" that is not accurate if it turns out it is a modern reproduction. What I really have is a (insert adjective) model t steering wheel. The adjective like "authentic" "vintage" and "genuine" etc are not required when selling a real genuine vintage wheel as they are implied to the word model T when they are not used. Therefore, to sell a wheel that is not those things without such an adjective would be to incorrectly describe the product.
You're missing the keyword aftermarket. That assumes the product is not being sold as an authentic replica or intents of deception, quit being obtuse for no other reason than to just be difficult. It still would be call the same component, regardless. It's still a steering wheel. It's still a steering wheel for a model t. An aftermarket NES cart shell is still very much a cartridge shell for a NES game.
It sounds you agree with everything I have said. Your "aftermarket Ford model t steering wheel" and your "aftermarket Delorean bumper" are fine and accurate representations of your products.
If you're saying an aftermarket NES cartridge = NES cartridge, then yes.
If you don't add the word aftermarket to any aftermarket product then it is not accurate. All adjectives do not work the same way. The adjective "aftermarket" is not a descriptive adjective like "new" "used" "complete" or "loose". It is a qualifier and thus changes the actual meaning of the noun. So to include it or not gives you two different nouns.
I'm not doing this just to be difficult and I do have a real point to all of this. Consider this point that I brought up in another thread.
If a "NES cart" really is any cart that works in the NES including all aftermarket carts then how can a "complete NES cart collection" not include them? The adjective complete does nothing to limit the scope.
Something is wrong there. Logically it makes no sense to suggest that both are true.
This cart was made using new materials, nothing recycled. It was commissioned by Capcom and is a valid licensed and copyright approved release. Since it was a giveaway and very hard to get your hands on, I believe that is why this is so valuable. This isn't just a mere reproduction, it's a press kit from Capcom and has a very rare NES cart.
BTW, "NES Cart" by definition means cartridge playable on a Nintendo Entertainment System. That's simply a fact.
This game is a NES cart and is the actual release "ducktales" game from Capcom. The best way I can help explain this is using books. This game is not a first edition. This is a later edition and a rare variant at that due to quantity and distribution. So I hope that clarifies that game argument from a factual standpoint.
This is a later edition, rare variant, licensed and copyrighted, NES cart commissioned by Capcom.
If companies were allowed to print, package and seal games themselves then I'd be more than willing to accept this as a rare variant of Duck Tales.
So because one is playable and one is not, the difference is $5,000 to $400? Really doubt it, just rampant hype and speculation.
Originally posted by: B.A.
We will see this relisted in a few days, just look at that bid history.
i don't know what's more disturbing ... the price this went for or B.A.'s avatar picture
Originally posted by: antofarabia
i don't know what's more disturbing ... the price this went for or B.A.'s avatar picture
Nothing wrong with a little homo-erotic cover art.
Originally posted by: jonebone
Then what is the Mega Man 9 press kit that was also officially published and released by Capcom? It also contains an NES cart... though it is not playable, but it is an official NES cart shell.
So because one is playable and one is not, the difference is $5,000 to $400? Really doubt it, just rampant hype and speculation.
If that Megaman 9 press kit was instead a playable version of Megaman 9 the price would be in the thousands for sure.
Originally posted by: Bronty
can't tell if these guys are about to fight or make out
This is the first time I noticed that horrible art in the background. The guy doing the high kick on the bottom is drawn at Megaman 1 level.
http://i.imgur.com/Ik67yxF.jpg
Wish I could post that image on my phone. Someone link it for me?