I think NA members might be really surprised by the number of collectors outside of NA. I collected for 8 years before I joined NA and only learned of it by haggling with an ebay seller who said he'd give a better price through NA (Rickrollcollector I think). Defintely glad I joined though as it has made finishing some collecting goals possible. Awesome community!
I think NA members might be really surprised by the number of collectors outside of NA. I collected for 8 years before I joined NA and only learned of it by haggling with an ebay seller who said he'd give a better price through NA (Rickrollcollector I think). Defintely glad I joined though as it has made finishing some collecting goals possible. Awesome community!
to go even further down the pecking order, you should see how surprised collectors on Instagram are whenever they see anything from my collection. Instagram is generally a younger age group than NA, so a lot of them are just starting to get serious about retro games. they're a lot less informed on the value of things too, and generally will make lopsided trades in my favor if i let them (i offer more stuff to even things out a bit though).
the funniest thing was when i first made an instagram account, Nintendowayne said i should post my SE cart as my first pic. i ended up posting it like 3rd or 4th, but people went nuts and someone said "this is the first legit Stadium Events ever on Instagram"
that got a huge laugh out of me. if only they knew...
I would say that the most valuable videogame collections belong to those who have at one time or another been apart of the online videogame community for several reasons.
The competition drives some people past the point they would normally settle at. Without an online community you might think 200 CIB is the biggest collection in your state. Many of the biggest collectors have a compeitive nature about them.
The ability to share knowledge and make trades benefits the collector leading to a bigger collection.
All roads lead to them. If you seek a bigger collection with a passion then you will find the community in that process.
I've met one personally locally who had what some might call a decent collection. It was all loose carts but he might have had a complete NES and SNES set and if not he was only missing one or two. He was an early starter and had games for any system he could find including the early computer carts so he had a lot but it was all cart only.
sure, but the question is are those online people on forums. A lot probably are, for exactly the reasons you mention, but some aren't. I can think of one guy who's been collecting longer than me and last I checked was still collecting but wouldn't return emails in 2002, 2008, or today. Let alone participate in a forum. And he used to buy some good stuff... I remember him setting a record for secret of mana over a decade ago. he could have (likely does have) quite a substantial sealed collection but I have no clue. I've sold him stuff on ebay and you just get an immediate payment and no other communication.
sure, but the question is are those online people on forums. A lot probably are, but some aren't. I can think of one guy who's been collecting longer than me and last I checked was still collecting but wouldn't return emails in 2002, 2008, or today. Let alone participate in a forum. And he used to buy some good stuff... I remember him setting a record for secret of mana over a decade ago. he could have (likely does have) quite a substantial sealed collection but I have no clue. I've sold him stuff on ebay and you just get an immediate payment and no other communication.
I suppose there are a few but when it comes to top 10 collections I wouldn't think there would be one.....hmm well I guess Omar has a nice collection if he hasn't sold it all.
I think NA members might be really surprised by the number of collectors outside of NA. I collected for 8 years before I joined NA and only learned of it by haggling with an ebay seller who said he'd give a better price through NA (Rickrollcollector I think). Defintely glad I joined though as it has made finishing some collecting goals possible. Awesome community!
This is funny to me because that is EXACTLY how I came upon NA (negotiating with an eBay seller).
What do folks here consider a large collection? I've noticed no one has mentioned numbers ... maybe for good reason?
Wouldn't be linear though, there would be spikes and valleys all along the way. Remember the "Then Record" SE price of $2755 in Jan 2012 by Wrldstrman... and we've more than doubled from there.
im not saying anything for its not my place to do.If he ever chooses to come here on his terms he will.I'm just saying its 100% legit sold.Kind of feel like i witnessed histroy in a way lol
I don't think we can argue that this auction was botched. This was a 10 day auction.
Yes it had a pre approved bidders list. But anyone who is serious about this specimen (at the time of auction) had 10 days to know the auction exists and days to be added to the bidders list.
This is the true price of this game at the time of auction. If you're reading this in 2020 then man I bet you're shocked that you didn't pull out a mortgage to buy this at this price.
Now, I can't say it's paid for until I get confirmation from the original owner but I'll edit this when and if he tells me.
How nice is it that the provenance record is so short on this game. Nintendo > Seller > Winner. That's another key selling point in the future.
Wow, that's a good price in a lot of different ways.
True, nice solid realistic price. Legit looking bid history too. Well, given a cib is worth about 20 and a VGA 85 worth about 35, where would you guys peg a VGA 80? 30k?
Thank you for your inquiry. Please find the requested Population Report below:
1987, Bandai, NES, Gold Nintendo Seal, Stadium Events, NTSC:
No discount? If I follow what you mean I agree but I look at it in the opposite way. Given the price of a cib the price of a sealed really can't be much lower than 30k no matter the condition and the fact an 85 goes for 35 is more a comment on there being little premium for the incremental sealed condition at this price level
I guess we'll see where the bidding goes though! Hopefully stays legit with no troll bids. I assume a nice CIB would be about $15-$20k, so I'd expect this to be $35-40k range. Just a guess though!
As expected, though some may argue about the bid history.
I also think that VGA 80 or 85 would have little bearing on price at this point in time. There aren't enough copies to be selective, if you want it and it pops up, you would bid to win.
No discount? If I follow what you mean I agree but I look at it in the opposite way. Given the price of a cib the price of a sealed really can't be much lower than 30k no matter the condition and the fact an 85 goes for 35 is more a comment on there being little premium for the incremental sealed condition at this price level Id basically say CIB in above average condition = 20 75= 25k 80= 30k 85= 35k
Do you think there is a ceiling? How many people in this hobby have 35k to blow on a collectable? And hypothetically, in open auction with legit bids, what does a VGA 100 go for and what does a VGA a 80 go for? Would they get similar winning bids?
Right, that's exactly what I mean.... there's little premium for condition above a certain price point because it's already at what is currently the hobby's apparent ceiling
VGA 100 people would find a way to bid more, but percentage wise it would be a small percentage compared to the spread on a more affordable title
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Originally posted by: xjwebb1982
I think NA members might be really surprised by the number of collectors outside of NA. I collected for 8 years before I joined NA and only learned of it by haggling with an ebay seller who said he'd give a better price through NA (Rickrollcollector I think). Defintely glad I joined though as it has made finishing some collecting goals possible. Awesome community!
to go even further down the pecking order, you should see how surprised collectors on Instagram are whenever they see anything from my collection. Instagram is generally a younger age group than NA, so a lot of them are just starting to get serious about retro games. they're a lot less informed on the value of things too, and generally will make lopsided trades in my favor if i let them (i offer more stuff to even things out a bit though).
the funniest thing was when i first made an instagram account, Nintendowayne said i should post my SE cart as my first pic. i ended up posting it like 3rd or 4th, but people went nuts and someone said "this is the first legit Stadium Events ever on Instagram"
that got a huge laugh out of me. if only they knew...
The competition drives some people past the point they would normally settle at. Without an online community you might think 200 CIB is the biggest collection in your state. Many of the biggest collectors have a compeitive nature about them.
The ability to share knowledge and make trades benefits the collector leading to a bigger collection.
All roads lead to them. If you seek a bigger collection with a passion then you will find the community in that process.
I've met one personally locally who had what some might call a decent collection. It was all loose carts but he might have had a complete NES and SNES set and if not he was only missing one or two. He was an early starter and had games for any system he could find including the early computer carts so he had a lot but it was all cart only.
Originally posted by: Bronty
sure, but the question is are those online people on forums. A lot probably are, but some aren't. I can think of one guy who's been collecting longer than me and last I checked was still collecting but wouldn't return emails in 2002, 2008, or today. Let alone participate in a forum. And he used to buy some good stuff... I remember him setting a record for secret of mana over a decade ago. he could have (likely does have) quite a substantial sealed collection but I have no clue. I've sold him stuff on ebay and you just get an immediate payment and no other communication.
I suppose there are a few but when it comes to top 10 collections I wouldn't think there would be one.....hmm well I guess Omar has a nice collection if he hasn't sold it all.
Originally posted by: xjwebb1982
I think NA members might be really surprised by the number of collectors outside of NA. I collected for 8 years before I joined NA and only learned of it by haggling with an ebay seller who said he'd give a better price through NA (Rickrollcollector I think). Defintely glad I joined though as it has made finishing some collecting goals possible. Awesome community!
This is funny to me because that is EXACTLY how I came upon NA (negotiating with an eBay seller).
What do folks here consider a large collection? I've noticed no one has mentioned numbers ... maybe for good reason?
Originally posted by: JosephLeo
Originally posted by: jonebone
Wouldn't be linear though, there would be spikes and valleys all along the way. Remember the "Then Record" SE price of $2755 in Jan 2012 by Wrldstrman... and we've more than doubled from there.
http://www.nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?StartRow=51...
January 2012 is almost on par though.
2005
2006
2007
2008
2009
1
$300.00
1
$403.47
1
$542.62
1
$729.76
1
$981.45
2
$307.50
2
$413.55
2
$556.18
2
$748.00
2
$1,005.98
3
$315.19
3
$423.89
3
$570.09
3
$766.70
3
$1,031.13
4
$323.07
4
$434.49
4
$584.34
4
$785.87
4
$1,056.91
5
$331.14
5
$445.35
5
$598.95
5
$805.52
5
$1,083.33
6
$339.42
6
$456.49
6
$613.92
6
$825.66
6
$1,110.42
7
$347.91
7
$467.90
7
$629.27
7
$846.30
7
$1,138.18
8
$356.61
8
$479.60
8
$645.00
8
$867.46
8
$1,166.63
9
$365.52
9
$491.58
9
$661.13
9
$889.14
9
$1,195.80
10
$374.66
10
$503.87
10
$677.66
10
$911.37
10
$1,225.69
11
$384.03
11
$516.47
11
$694.60
11
$934.16
11
$1,256.33
12
$393.63
12
$529.38
12
$711.96
12
$957.51
12
$1,287.74
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2011
2012
2013
2014
1
$1,319.94
1
$1,775.17
1
$2,387.40
1
$3,210.79
1
$4,318.16
2
$1,352.94
2
$1,819.55
2
$2,447.09
2
$3,291.06
2
$4,426.11
3
$1,386.76
3
$1,865.04
3
$2,508.27
3
$3,373.34
3
$4,536.77
4
$1,421.43
4
$1,911.66
4
$2,570.97
4
$3,457.67
4
$4,650.19
5
$1,456.96
5
$1,959.45
5
$2,635.25
5
$3,544.11
5
$4,766.44
6
$1,493.39
6
$2,008.44
6
$2,701.13
6
$3,632.72
6
$4,885.60
7
$1,530.72
7
$2,058.65
7
$2,768.66
7
$3,723.54
7
$5,007.74
8
$1,568.99
8
$2,110.12
8
$2,837.87
8
$3,816.62
8
$5,132.94
9
$1,608.21
9
$2,162.87
9
$2,908.82
9
$3,912.04
9
$5,261.26
10
$1,648.42
10
$2,216.94
10
$2,981.54
10
$4,009.84
10
$5,392.79
11
$1,689.63
11
$2,272.37
11
$3,056.08
11
$4,110.09
11
$5,527.61
12
$1,731.87
12
$2,329.17
12
$3,132.48
12
$4,212.84
12
$5,665.80
Got mine in May of 2009 for $1,025.02 shipped, fits in well with your numbers. Just another data point to toss out.
dudes legit as hell.dudes not a na member either
Who is it? Invite them here if you like
Wow, that's a good price in a lot of different ways.
True, nice solid realistic price. Legit looking bid history too.
Well, given a cib is worth about 20 and a VGA 85 worth about 35, where would you guys peg a VGA 80? 30k?
im not saying anything.if he chooses to come here on his terms he will.im just saying its 100% legit done.
That's nice to hear. And of course, I'm not trying to pry just interested. Nice to see a solid sale
I don't think we can argue that this auction was botched. This was a 10 day auction.
Yes it had a pre approved bidders list. But anyone who is serious about this specimen (at the time of auction) had 10 days to know the auction exists and days to be added to the bidders list.
This is the true price of this game at the time of auction. If you're reading this in 2020 then man I bet you're shocked that you didn't pull out a mortgage to buy this at this price.
Now, I can't say it's paid for until I get confirmation from the original owner but I'll edit this when and if he tells me.
How nice is it that the provenance record is so short on this game. Nintendo > Seller > Winner. That's another key selling point in the future.
Originally posted by: Bronty
Originally posted by: guillavoie
Wow, that's a good price in a lot of different ways.
True, nice solid realistic price. Legit looking bid history too. Well, given a cib is worth about 20 and a VGA 85 worth about 35, where would you guys peg a VGA 80? 30k?
Thank you for your inquiry. Please find the requested Population Report below:
1987, Bandai, NES, Gold Nintendo Seal, Stadium Events, NTSC:
85(1), 80(1), 75(1).
No discount...not until there's at least twice the population.
Heck, I offered you $25k when I first joined. Back when I actually HAD $25k to spend like that.
Id basically say
CIB in above average condition = 20
75= 25k
80= 30k
85= 35k
Your copy I mean yeah I'd discount a little but there's not much to discount really. There's still a mint cart with a mint manual in there.
Shitty CIB is still a CIB. There isn't enough of them to go around.
Originally posted by: jonebone
I guess we'll see where the bidding goes though! Hopefully stays legit with no troll bids. I assume a nice CIB would be about $15-$20k, so I'd expect this to be $35-40k range. Just a guess though!
As expected, though some may argue about the bid history.
I also think that VGA 80 or 85 would have little bearing on price at this point in time. There aren't enough copies to be selective, if you want it and it pops up, you would bid to win.
Originally posted by: Bronty
No discount? If I follow what you mean I agree but I look at it in the opposite way. Given the price of a cib the price of a sealed really can't be much lower than 30k no matter the condition and the fact an 85 goes for 35 is more a comment on there being little premium for the incremental sealed condition at this price level Id basically say CIB in above average condition = 20 75= 25k 80= 30k 85= 35k
Do you think there is a ceiling? How many people in this hobby have 35k to blow on a collectable? And hypothetically, in open auction with legit bids, what does a VGA 100 go for and what does a VGA a 80 go for? Would they get similar winning bids?
VGA 100 people would find a way to bid more, but percentage wise it would be a small percentage compared to the spread on a more affordable title