Lufia 2 loop in start up

Hey guys any help would be appriciated. I have a copy of Lufia 2 that loads up but will only show the first two screens. It then just continuously loops between those two screens. This is a game that had some water damage long ago. I cleaned everything as well as I could. The only thing that seemed really grody was one of the resistors. Im new to dabbling with boards and what not so I dont have any on hand. I am looking for advice on my next step.





lufia2 back board




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  • Unless it's the way you took the pic, the pins look horrible. What was used to clean it?
  • By pins are you talking about the back of the board or the bottom of the cart? Rubbing alcohol on the bottom of the cart and vinegar on the back of the board. Im not sure the terminology for either one but the bottom ones I think its just a bad angle.
  • Those pins look corroded as crap

  • Originally posted by: hammerfestus



    Those pins look corroded as crap





    an by pins you are refering to....? Gold at the bottom or silver on the back of the board? Again not sure of technically the difference in terminology 
  • The connector pins look fine to me, just reflecting light in different ways.
  • They mean the bottom part of the board that would slide into your Super Nintendo



    Yeah I saw it as just the angle of the picture makes them look gross but really they appear fine. Look up how to replace a resistor, and look up that particular one and get a replacement at RadioShack. I'd try to solder a new one on it not knowing anything further than what looks to be wrong.

    Edit: I remember seeing a thread about cleaning up corrosion off of a damaged snes board, and I remember there being a good amount underneath the chips (which the OP had desoldered from the board) that had to be cleaned up.
  • Originally posted by: Soma

    They mean the bottom part of the board that would slide into your Super Nintendo



    Yeah I saw it as just the angle of the picture makes them look gross but really they appear fine. Look up how to replace a resistor, and look up that particular one and get a replacement at RadioShack. I'd try to solder a new one on it not knowing anything further than what looks to be wrong.

    Edit: I remember seeing a thread about cleaning up corrosion off of a damaged snes board, and I remember there being a good amount underneath the chips (which the OP had desoldered from the board) that had to be cleaned up.





    Cool, Ill try the resistor first and if that doesnt work Ill take a look at removing the chips and cleaning under them too. Thanks for the help!
  • Right on, if I could give any advice for soldering/desoldering, give yourself room and take your time! Hope you find the problem!
  • just a thought but maybe the saves got corrupted and it causing the game to reset? try de soldering the battery if replacing the resister doesnt work.



    you can also try reflowing the board as a last resort.  just remove the battery before doing that cause the heat will make it explode
  • Sorry man, but if it truly is water damage, then it's highly possible that one of the chips are corrupted.

    I've had this happen to an nes game. Everything looked fine...pins, etc.

    It booted up, but it would not go any further than the main title screens.



    I hope that's not the issue and it's something minor, but it sounds awfully similar to the one I have.
  • The best option would be to desolder the Lufia 2 ROM and test it in a known working socketed board, that would immediately determine whether the game is salvageable or not. Remember, the only part of that board that is Lufia 2 is the ROM with the game's product code printed on it. The board, RAM, battery and additional parts are all off the shelf and general purpose.



    Lufia 2 looks to consist of a 36 pin ROM, 64K SRAM+battery, MAD-1 decoder and a LoROM PCB. Those are very common, lots of sports games have a board like that.
  • I did get a replacement resistor and now it gets the next screen.... and then resets again. I can watch the "trailer" clip but as soon as I hit start the music starts and then just goes back into a loop. Sounds like a donor cart will be my next option. Thanks guys as always for all the help. So glad I found this site. Great group of people all around. Ill keep you posted.
  • Replace the capacitor as well. I'd try that before using a donor board (just snag a matching cap off a donor if you don't have a local electronics store or don't want to wait for shipping). Desoldering mask roms can be a major pain in the ass and inexperienced soldering skills will lead to damage more often than not. I'd hate to see that happen with a really awesome (and pricey) game.

  • Originally posted by: Guntz



    The best option would be to desolder the Lufia 2 ROM and test it in a known working socketed board, that would immediately determine whether the game is salvageable or not. Remember, the only part of that board that is Lufia 2 is the ROM with the game's product code printed on it. The board, RAM, battery and additional parts are all off the shelf and general purpose.



    Lufia 2 looks to consist of a 36 pin ROM, 64K SRAM+battery, MAD-1 decoder and a LoROM PCB. Those are very common, lots of sports games have a board like that.



    Agree with this. Best way to guarantee everything is in working shape.




    Originally posted by: dra600n



    Replace the capacitor as well. I'd try that before using a donor board (just snag a matching cap off a donor if you don't have a local electronics store or don't want to wait for shipping). Desoldering mask roms can be a major pain in the ass and inexperienced soldering skills will lead to damage more often than not. I'd hate to see that happen with a really awesome (and pricey) game.











    SNES games aren't too bad, definitely easier than NES. You can buy a couple maddens or something to practice on if you need experience.


  • Originally posted by: Lincoln


    Originally posted by: Guntz



    The best option would be to desolder the Lufia 2 ROM and test it in a known working socketed board, that would immediately determine whether the game is salvageable or not. Remember, the only part of that board that is Lufia 2 is the ROM with the game's product code printed on it. The board, RAM, battery and additional parts are all off the shelf and general purpose.



    Lufia 2 looks to consist of a 36 pin ROM, 64K SRAM+battery, MAD-1 decoder and a LoROM PCB. Those are very common, lots of sports games have a board like that.



    Agree with this. Best way to guarantee everything is in working shape.




    Originally posted by: dra600n



    Replace the capacitor as well. I'd try that before using a donor board (just snag a matching cap off a donor if you don't have a local electronics store or don't want to wait for shipping). Desoldering mask roms can be a major pain in the ass and inexperienced soldering skills will lead to damage more often than not. I'd hate to see that happen with a really awesome (and pricey) game.











    SNES games aren't too bad, definitely easier than NES. You can buy a couple maddens or something to practice on if you need experience.






    True, though replacing a cap is still quicker and cheaper I've seen similar symptoms due from a bad cap. Either way the op goes about it should work, provided the rom chip isn't damaged.
  • hey

    what were the results of this?

    im having the exact same problem
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