DreamTR, if you've seen only 3 copies of this box for sale on eBay in 10 years, then where did DNG and Portnoyd acquire their copies of the box when they got them years ago? I know Portnoyd got his box from DNG so how on earth did DNG acquire 2 copies of this box?
I'm sure a few slipped by him.
For most of those 10 years he has been chasing protos first (SE was a distant second) and every now and then even one of those would slip by him.
I know Portnoyd got his box from DNG so how on earth did DNG acquire 2 copies of this box?
That's easy Nick... when Hounder was sent away to Federal Pound me in the A** prison DNG broke into his house and stole the 2 boxes David had. LMAO!!!!!
Production numbers have nothing to do with this title really. Odd's are there were 5-10k made, but it had such a short shelf life and most were shipped back, that who knows how many survive. I don't think the cart is anything ridiculously rare of anything. There's probably a few hundred to 1k. The box is the key, but I'd venture to say there are more out there somewhere, whether in mom's basement or people who aren't active collectors, or in the hands of collectors who aren't on forums.
Personally I dont think the cart is very easy to find. I could be wrong but I dont think more than one new SE cart has shown up on ebay in years. I belive the last several ones sold are ones that were already in hands of collectors and sold to others. Im pretty sure Nick sold his loose copy, Mike sold his and a few others so its the same few carts just getting passed to different owners and not new unfound carts showing up
That was mine that sold on here for $1400. Probably would be higher since none have been on in a while. It was in incredible pristine condition too. Kinda miss it.
DreamTR, if you've seen only 3 copies of this box for sale on eBay in 10 years, then where did DNG and Portnoyd acquire their copies of the box when they got them years ago? I know Portnoyd got his box from DNG so how on earth did DNG acquire 2 copies of this box?
Years ago on DP (and I mean YEARS ago) someone found two CIB SE's together and posted pics... I don't remember who it was, but it would make a lot of sense if it was DNG
What happened to the CIB one from MO a few month ago. that started a huge fight on here, who hast that one?
Nick Morgan (burnambill333) ended up with it, you can read the thread about the circumstances in the recent sealed myriad thread in auction site spotlight.
I definitely could be wrong, but that was the only CIB copy that I can remember causing any sort of fight. When Erik got his in an off Ebay deal there were a small group of people (one in particular comes to mind) that were irritated that they didn't have a "fair" chance at it, but the only flat out explosive type fight came from the copy I mentioned, so I just assumed that was what Duke was reffering to.
Im sure there are many more cib's out there, its a big world. There are probably many people that have it and dont think anything of it. I run into many many many people who have NO idea this stuff is worth anything or anyone wants it. And then they sell it off to someone who dont know anything about it and think its its just another ordinary nintendo game, then they sell it to someone else and it just stays undiscovered for years.
^^^ LOL. Imagine somebody taking out a mortgage for your NWC Gold.
(Or...horror-of-horrors, be careful what you wish for, because hyper-inflation could make 100k for that game a reality pretty quickly)
It's going to happen. 6 or 7 years ago that game was going for $1500-2000 on eBay and $4000-6000 privately....I say by 2015 the game reaches the $30,000 mark and by 2020 closer to $50,000 easily. It's going to be one of those games that will be the culmination of NES collecting because of the history behind that tournament and the nature of how few exist.
If anyone is banking that a video game will reach the 30K or 50K mark, stop now, seriously!
NES collecting in 10-20+ years will go to the way side like Baseball cards. This generation will be too old and the next generation won't give a rats ass.
If you're collecting to eventually profit from it, you may want to consider selling in the next 3-8 years. I think the longer you wait, the less money you will get.
While I see your point ckendal, I disagree! Nintendo is not slowing down anytime soon and as the future kids that play nintendo grow... some will want to start collecting the games they grew up playing and other games they never had a chance to! The NES revolutionized the video game industry and I can't see future collectors not wanting to get their hands on it. Some collectors, who are members here, are teenagers and didn't even grow up with the NES. "NintendoCollector" just joined this site right after Christmas and on his youtube page he asked for a stack-up CIB and got it: (5:26). NintendoCollector is only 14 years old! I don't collect games for the value of them but I would be very surprised if the value didn't continue to go up... games are going to get harder and harder to find and I believe the demand for them will continue!
While I see your point ckendal, I disagree! Nintendo is not slowing down anytime soon and as the future kids that play nintendo grow... some will want to start collecting the games they grew up playing and other games they never had a chance to! The NES revolutionized the video game industry and I can't see future collectors not wanting to get their hands on it. Some collectors, who are members here, are teenagers and didn't even grow up with the NES. "NintendoCollector" just joined this site right after Christmas and on his youtube page he asked for a stack-up CIB and got it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi8KtszL44A (5:26). NintendoCollector is only 14 years old! I don't collect games for the value of them but I would be very surprised if the value didn't continue to go up... games are going to get harder and harder to find and I believe the demand for them will continue!
I think you missed my point. Baseball cards died over time. It took quite a few generations (3-4).
NES games, not Nintendo games, will do the same. As we get farther from the original NES generation the less likely kids will even care pick them up.
Their retro-gaming fad is likely to fall on things like PSX, XBOX, PS2, etc.
This doesn't mean that there won't be SOMEONE who wants this stuff, it just means that NO ONE is going to pay some of the insane prices some people do now while the market is hot.
If anyone is banking that a video game will reach the 30K or 50K mark, stop now, seriously!
NES collecting in 10-20+ years will go to the way side like Baseball cards. This generation will be too old and the next generation won't give a rats ass.
If you're collecting to eventually profit from it, you may want to consider selling in the next 3-8 years. I think the longer you wait, the less money you will get.
Just my 2 cents.
I've often thought about this too and fully agree. Look at the guys collecting original NES and SNES stuff. It's the ones who were bottle fed on Atarti and NES. Today and future gamers who have entered the video game world in the time of GameCube and Playstation 2 could give a rat's ass about collecting every NES game made. Much like I could give a rat's ass about Odyssey, Commodore, etc.
As the years pass, it should come as no suprise that there will be fewer of us hardcore old-school NES collectors...not more.
Investing in video games for a long-term is pretty 'stoopid'...there is a 401(k) for that. Twenty years form now your 'pool' of investors is going to be much smaller than today.
I think you missed my point. Baseball cards died over time. It took quite a few generations (3-4).
NES games, not Nintendo games, will do the same. As we get farther from the original NES generation the less likely kids will even care pick them up.
Their retro-gaming fad is likely to fall on things like PSX, XBOX, PS2, etc.
This doesn't mean that there won't be SOMEONE who wants this stuff, it just means that NO ONE is going to pay some of the insane prices some people do now while the market is hot.
All we can do is speculate right now... but I believe there will be Nintendo collectors for a very long time. True, It may die out one day and I understand your point. In my opinion NES games will continue to go up for now. We both will only know for sure in the next few years! Baseball card collecting hasn't died completely either... there are still collectors out there that will pay 100k for a single card. Their is a card right now on ebay for 85k. While there may not be as many who still collect cards or games in the future... as time goes on items get ruined, thrown out, broken, ect. and become harder to find. I would not be shocked if a gold NWC hit over 50k one day. Just my thoughts!
Baseball card collecting in general may be dead. Yet Honus Wagner cards sell for like 3/4 of a million dollars.
Huh.
Yes...point is: even though not as many collect baseball cards as before (I collected baseball cards for example during the early to late 90s), there are still enough out there that are willing to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars for a single baseball card today.... just like there will be people willing to spend a ridiculous amount of money on 1 of the 26 Gold NWC carts years from now.
LOL at people not interested in this stuff. Atari is still a generation ahead, and the rares if they ever show up, still sell for thousands, so that's doubtful.
About baseball cards, newer cards were easier to find in abundance. Can't compare apples to oranges here. The NES is still the single most important console made today, and with the Wii shoving NES games down the throats of people now, a whole NEW generation for the next 20-30 years will be spoonfed on Super Mario Bros all over again.
You guys sound shocked about the NWC, but a gold one sold for $15,000 and a freaking Neo Geo game sold years ago For $17,000+, so you severely underestimate the power of collectors and their wallets as they get older.
I think dream's 50 grand by 2020 prediction is utterly reasonable. I wouldn't bet against it.
And yeah the point that nes games still live on, either on virtual console, or better yet as brand new sequels to NES-era franchises, is the key thing. Atari burned out in 10 years and its still being collected. Nintendo video games have been going strong close to 25 years and they are only getting stronger as a company. Things look pretty frickin' rosy
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The last one on ebay had a giant ciggaweed burn mark in it.
It had some flaws
DreamTR, if you've seen only 3 copies of this box for sale on eBay in 10 years, then where did DNG and Portnoyd acquire their copies of the box when they got them years ago? I know Portnoyd got his box from DNG so how on earth did DNG acquire 2 copies of this box?
I'm sure a few slipped by him.
For most of those 10 years he has been chasing protos first (SE was a distant second) and every now and then even one of those would slip by him.
The box is rare but there are more known in collector's hands than the list shows.
Do you know of any others?
I know Portnoyd got his box from DNG so how on earth did DNG acquire 2 copies of this box?
That's easy Nick... when Hounder was sent away to Federal Pound me in the A** prison DNG broke into his house and stole the 2 boxes David had. LMAO!!!!!
The box is rare but there are more known in collector's hands than the list shows.
Do you know of any others?
If I did I wouldn't say anything till it was mine.
DreamTR, if you've seen only 3 copies of this box for sale on eBay in 10 years, then where did DNG and Portnoyd acquire their copies of the box when they got them years ago? I know Portnoyd got his box from DNG so how on earth did DNG acquire 2 copies of this box?
Years ago on DP (and I mean YEARS ago) someone found two CIB SE's together and posted pics... I don't remember who it was, but it would make a lot of sense if it was DNG
What happened to the CIB one from MO a few month ago. that started a huge fight on here, who hast that one?
Nick Morgan (burnambill333) ended up with it, you can read the thread about the circumstances in the recent sealed myriad thread in auction site spotlight.
^^ I don't think that that is the same one.
I definitely could be wrong, but that was the only CIB copy that I can remember causing any sort of fight. When Erik got his in an off Ebay deal there were a small group of people (one in particular comes to mind) that were irritated that they didn't have a "fair" chance at it, but the only flat out explosive type fight came from the copy I mentioned, so I just assumed that was what Duke was reffering to.
^^ I don't think that that is the same one.
No, it's the same one.
^^^ LOL. Imagine somebody taking out a mortgage for your NWC Gold.
(Or...horror-of-horrors, be careful what you wish for, because hyper-inflation could make 100k for that game a reality pretty quickly)
It's going to happen. 6 or 7 years ago that game was going for $1500-2000 on eBay and $4000-6000 privately....I say by 2015 the game reaches the $30,000 mark and by 2020 closer to $50,000 easily. It's going to be one of those games that will be the culmination of NES collecting because of the history behind that tournament and the nature of how few exist.
NES collecting in 10-20+ years will go to the way side like Baseball cards. This generation will be too old and the next generation won't give a rats ass.
If you're collecting to eventually profit from it, you may want to consider selling in the next 3-8 years. I think the longer you wait, the less money you will get.
Just my 2 cents.
While I see your point ckendal, I disagree! Nintendo is not slowing down anytime soon and as the future kids that play nintendo grow... some will want to start collecting the games they grew up playing and other games they never had a chance to! The NES revolutionized the video game industry and I can't see future collectors not wanting to get their hands on it. Some collectors, who are members here, are teenagers and didn't even grow up with the NES. "NintendoCollector" just joined this site right after Christmas and on his youtube page he asked for a stack-up CIB and got it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi8KtszL44A (5:26). NintendoCollector is only 14 years old! I don't collect games for the value of them but I would be very surprised if the value didn't continue to go up... games are going to get harder and harder to find and I believe the demand for them will continue!
I think you missed my point. Baseball cards died over time. It took quite a few generations (3-4).
NES games, not Nintendo games, will do the same. As we get farther from the original NES generation the less likely kids will even care pick them up.
Their retro-gaming fad is likely to fall on things like PSX, XBOX, PS2, etc.
This doesn't mean that there won't be SOMEONE who wants this stuff, it just means that NO ONE is going to pay some of the insane prices some people do now while the market is hot.
If anyone is banking that a video game will reach the 30K or 50K mark, stop now, seriously!
NES collecting in 10-20+ years will go to the way side like Baseball cards. This generation will be too old and the next generation won't give a rats ass.
If you're collecting to eventually profit from it, you may want to consider selling in the next 3-8 years. I think the longer you wait, the less money you will get.
Just my 2 cents.
I've often thought about this too and fully agree. Look at the guys collecting original NES and SNES stuff. It's the ones who were bottle fed on Atarti and NES. Today and future gamers who have entered the video game world in the time of GameCube and Playstation 2 could give a rat's ass about collecting every NES game made. Much like I could give a rat's ass about Odyssey, Commodore, etc.
As the years pass, it should come as no suprise that there will be fewer of us hardcore old-school NES collectors...not more.
Investing in video games for a long-term is pretty 'stoopid'...there is a 401(k) for that. Twenty years form now your 'pool' of investors is going to be much smaller than today.
I think you missed my point. Baseball cards died over time. It took quite a few generations (3-4).
NES games, not Nintendo games, will do the same. As we get farther from the original NES generation the less likely kids will even care pick them up.
Their retro-gaming fad is likely to fall on things like PSX, XBOX, PS2, etc.
This doesn't mean that there won't be SOMEONE who wants this stuff, it just means that NO ONE is going to pay some of the insane prices some people do now while the market is hot.
All we can do is speculate right now... but I believe there will be Nintendo collectors for a very long time. True, It may die out one day and I understand your point. In my opinion NES games will continue to go up for now. We both will only know for sure in the next few years! Baseball card collecting hasn't died completely either... there are still collectors out there that will pay 100k for a single card. Their is a card right now on ebay for 85k. While there may not be as many who still collect cards or games in the future... as time goes on items get ruined, thrown out, broken, ect. and become harder to find. I would not be shocked if a gold NWC hit over 50k one day. Just my thoughts!
Huh.
Baseball card collecting in general may be dead. Yet Honus Wagner cards sell for like 3/4 of a million dollars.
Huh.
Yes...point is: even though not as many collect baseball cards as before (I collected baseball cards for example during the early to late 90s), there are still enough out there that are willing to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars for a single baseball card today.... just like there will be people willing to spend a ridiculous amount of money on 1 of the 26 Gold NWC carts years from now.
About baseball cards, newer cards were easier to find in abundance. Can't compare apples to oranges here. The NES is still the single most important console made today, and with the Wii shoving NES games down the throats of people now, a whole NEW generation for the next 20-30 years will be spoonfed on Super Mario Bros all over again.
You guys sound shocked about the NWC, but a gold one sold for $15,000 and a freaking Neo Geo game sold years ago For $17,000+, so you severely underestimate the power of collectors and their wallets as they get older.
And yeah the point that nes games still live on, either on virtual console, or better yet as brand new sequels to NES-era franchises, is the key thing. Atari burned out in 10 years and its still being collected. Nintendo video games have been going strong close to 25 years and they are only getting stronger as a company. Things look pretty frickin' rosy