Thoughts on people who polish the contacts on cartridge games

What are your thoughts on people who claim to "Professionally Clean" cartridge games by using some kind of contact cleaner to polish the contacts? I say stop it! You are ruining the game. That black stuff coming off the contacts is not dirt but is actually the gold plating.
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  • I say I've been using Glass stove top cleaner on my games for years and I don't have any problems with the games not working, so how exactly am I ruining the games?
  • I use copper and brass cleaner on all the contacts of my games and they come out like factory new, you don't have to leave the cleaner on for long and gently wipe with a old t-shirt or other cloth material.
  • Originally posted by: austin532



    What are your thoughts on people who claim to "Professional Clean" cartridge games by using some kind of contact cleaner to polish the contacts? I say stop it! You are ruining the game. That black stuff coming off the contacts is not dirt but is actually the gold plating.

    It's both.  I've had a number of games (usually from the South) that refused to work until the pins got something more than alcohol.  You just have to temper it so that you're not taking so much off that you're leaving them silver



     
  • Mixed feelings. You're right that the "grime" is just gold plating. Overall I'm against doing this. But before I knew any better I polished a few SNES games until they were silvery. That was almost 10 years ago, and they still work without having been protected in any way. So, I'm not sure how lethal it is to the cart since all my games still work. But I imagine if they start to rust I'll be out of luck. Also my RCA Studio II carts (from the mid 70s) look silverish and still work, so I'm not sure what sort of plating they used, if any.
  • Originally posted by: Paul



    I say I've been using Glass stove top cleaner on my games for years and I don't have any problems with the games not working, so how exactly am I ruining the games?





    This is the best option. Cleans up deposits without stripping off good metal. 



    I've seen carts where the gold layer was gone. I can't imagine how or why people even do that.
  • I usually just do it once with brasso and I am done......there is no need to use it more than once every 10 years or so.
  • I don't hate when people clean all their games, I do however hate it when people act like they are gods because of it and charge way extra.



    For instance, there is a guy at a local flea market here in NW Florida, we call him ShoeBox guy (Inside joke, because all of his actual games of value would fit in an average shoebox), SB guy takes apart and cleans every single game he sells, and wraps them in plastic bags, and charges a min. of 20% extra for his efforts. He acts like he is some sort of king because of it and that he does something that no one else does and it should justify charging $7 for sports NES games and ect.
  • The contacts are copper which are protected by a silver plating. They are then protected further by a gold plating. By removing the gold plating you are removing a layer of protection. It's true most games will still work fine but unless the contacts are severe there is usually no need to polish them down to silver.
  • contact cleaner is generally designed to:

    -remove corrosion and oxidation

    -be non-reactive with the pcb/mask materials



    'grime' coming off is probably just oxidation, but once you start using abrasives like brasso or a fiberglass pen you are probably actually removing layers of the metal. contacts are electroplated in gold sometimes because it is less reactive than copper, not sure on the nes.



    iso. alch is great for removing oxidation without removing layers of metal or damaging the mask. anything that is not designed to work with pcbs specifically is a crapshoot unless you are a materials scientist--it may work fantastic today but destroy the cart in another generation
  • It's way overkill. You can get the samw result by using a tops or white eraser.
  • Originally posted by: austin532



    What are your thoughts on people who claim to "Professionally Clean" cartridge games by using some kind of contact cleaner to polish the contacts? I say stop it! You are ruining the game. That black stuff coming off the contacts is not dirt but is actually the gold plating.



    I say "ruin" away. 



    I'd much rather have a cart that works on the first attempt with a little less gold plating than a non-working cart. 

     
  • The problem is removing the gold plating makes them oxidize faster, ie stop working faster



    @cartman if you have to use an abrasive that's a good compromise



    I did repair/refurb on some the most pathetic looking insurance claimed water damage etc phones for a while and even in the heavy water damage/corrosion never saw a contact that eraser+iso alc(or mineral spirits) wouldn't fix
  • The black stuff is just gold plating thats already been removed from metal on metal contact when inserting and removing over the years so whats the big deal in removing that dirt anyways? Its already worn off
  • Originally posted by: eightbithero

     
    Originally posted by: austin532



    What are your thoughts on people who claim to "Professionally Clean" cartridge games by using some kind of contact cleaner to polish the contacts? I say stop it! You are ruining the game. That black stuff coming off the contacts is not dirt but is actually the gold plating.



    I say "ruin" away. 



    I'd much rather have a cart that works on the first attempt with a little less gold plating than a non-working cart. 

     

    Really? The game may work today but 10 years from now you may run into some problems.



     
  • Originally posted by: alekx



    The black stuff is just gold plating thats already been removed from metal on metal contact when inserting and removing over the years so whats the big deal in removing that dirt anyways? Its already worn off

    Depends how abrasive your stuff is.  If you use a lot of force with Wiemens or any sort of metal polish wadding, it'll keep coming back black until all the gold is gone. 



    If rubbing alcohol isn't doing the trick, I'd use a little bit of Wiemens (maybe one Q-tip worth).  That has worked 100% of the time for me.



     
  • I use Brasso on really dirty ones and eraser on the others and never had a problem
  • Just isopropyl alcohol. thats all ya need.
  • Originally posted by: austin532



    What are your thoughts on people who claim to "Professionally Clean" cartridge games by using some kind of contact cleaner to polish the contacts? I say stop it! You are ruining the game. That black stuff coming off the contacts is not dirt but is actually the gold plating.

    You seem to be making a very large mistake.  I think you're talking about brasso, something that should NEVER be used on contacts, vs contact cleaner.



    Brasso is not a contact cleaner, it's an abbrasive.  I'm not sure if brasso leaves behind a film, but most copper polishing does.  You shouldn't use this on contacts.



    A contact cleaner will NOT damage the contacts... that's what they're made for. And the contacts are thicker than most people give credit for, but if you did have it worn off....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecoxUwzyc0Q





     
  • This topic reminds me of the laugh I get whenever I see eBay sellers stating they have "professionally polished the pins" and whatnot. Like what the hell does that even mean? What makes someone a professional at cleaning contacts? Sounds pretty lame to be known as a professional of cleaning old game contacts lol. Yeah I agree with you. You (ebay seller) test the game and make sure it works and leave the contact cleaning up to me.
  • I generally just use a little alcohol to clean my games. Stove top cleaner is for when logic no longer applies. Those are the PCB's you're afraid to touch with your bare hands. If I can't get it done with stove top cleaner the the cart is usually in too bad of a condition to be saved. At that point it becomes a donor shell.
  • I typically want to punch anyone I see locally that advertises a game as having been "professionally cleaned", when all they've done is run a q-tip over the contacts with some rubbing alcohol.
  • I will also add that isopropyl and a white eraser is ideal. The stove top cleaner in very small amounts (no more than a q-tip worth) is not something I like to do.
  • I've heard Brasso and other popular solvents can be dangerous to the contacts in the wrong amounts.



    I've always just stuck with 70%+ rubbing alcohol, and never had a problem.
  • Artist eraser and 91% ISO



    I do have contact cleaner from Radio Shack (RIP) that seems to work pretty well.
  • I use a tiny bit of Brasso (enough to cover one tip of a q-tip per cart). I then follow up with 91% Iso rubbing alcohol because of fears from anything leftover from the Brasso. Every game works on the first try
  • I clean every cart I buy, though I only do it with alcohol (Crown Royal for me, 99% Iso for the cart) and an eraser. I don't even test the games to see if they work before I do it, mostly because I do it to keep the socket in the console clean. That's more difficult to clean than the board in a cart is. Every one of my carts works on the first try too.
  • My Grandma and me used Brasso back in the late 80s and the carts still work perfectly fine, she probably went to town on em' to.....You just can't do it excessively.
  • Originally posted by: ToxieRules



    My Grandma and me used Brasso back in the late 80s and the carts still work perfectly fine, she probably went to town on em' to.....You just can't do it excessively.

    There must be a some fine line with Brasso. I've gotten games where I can tell they used Brasso just by the smell, and the contacts are beyond hope.



    You guys ever get those random carts with white shit smeared in them, almost like someone was scrubbing the contacts with toothpaste? I got a lot recently with a Metroid cart that had all sorts of shit up in there. Took the cart apart, cleaned it, and now it's performing at like 90% (still glitches randomly on screen). It's like the only game I've gotten in years that's fighting me
  • Originally posted by: NostalgicMachine

     
    Originally posted by: ToxieRules



    My Grandma and me used Brasso back in the late 80s and the carts still work perfectly fine, she probably went to town on em' to.....You just can't do it excessively.

    There must be a some fine line with Brasso. I've gotten games where I can tell they used Brasso just by the smell, and the contacts are beyond hope.



    You guys ever get those random carts with white shit smeared in them, almost like someone was scrubbing the contacts with toothpaste? I got a lot recently with a Metroid cart that had all sorts of shit up in there. Took the cart apart, cleaned it, and now it's performing at like 90% (still glitches randomly on screen). It's like the only game I've gotten in years that's fighting me



    Ya I don't know man that is really weird, I just use a really fine soft cloth and give em quick hows your mother and thats it...literally have never had any issues, the contacts don't seem to have any wear either.



    That is just frigged up about the Metroid cart to......



    I must say there is only 1 NES cart that has ever given me issues in my entire life and that was Kirby's Adventure I actually still have the same cart from when I was 4....I had to blow in that thing, clean it, put it in, take it out like 30 times before it would play.

     
  • Originally posted by: ToxieRules

     
    Originally posted by: NostalgicMachine

     
    Originally posted by: ToxieRules



    My Grandma and me used Brasso back in the late 80s and the carts still work perfectly fine, she probably went to town on em' to.....You just can't do it excessively.

    There must be a some fine line with Brasso. I've gotten games where I can tell they used Brasso just by the smell, and the contacts are beyond hope.



    You guys ever get those random carts with white shit smeared in them, almost like someone was scrubbing the contacts with toothpaste? I got a lot recently with a Metroid cart that had all sorts of shit up in there. Took the cart apart, cleaned it, and now it's performing at like 90% (still glitches randomly on screen). It's like the only game I've gotten in years that's fighting me



    Ya I don't know man that is really weird, I just use a really fine soft cloth and give em quick hows your mother and thats it...literally have never had any issues, the contacts don't seem to have any wear either.



    That is just frigged up about the Metroid cart to......



    I must say there is only 1 NES cart that has ever given me issues in my entire life and that was Kirby's Adventure I actually still have the same cart from when I was 4....I had to blow in that thing, clean it, put it in, take it out like 30 times before it would play.

     

    I had a Kirby's Adventure cart that worked perfectly



    Yeah, I will get Metroid working. It's just stubborn as hell.

     
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