Some of the games named are awesome! Dr. Chaos? Silent Service? Deadly Towers? All are in the upper 50% for the system, and Dr. Chaos is probably in the upper 25%. I've noticed that for a lot of people, "bad game" = "game that makes me feel stupid". I understand that impulse but I can't really get behind it, especially if someone hasn't read the manual -- that's not the game's fault. For me, wasting my time is a much more serious offense; I'll never forgive Back to the Future for its bullshit, one-chance-only last stage that ruins everything that came before. Anyway, if you include unlicensed games, then Action 52 clearly takes the cake. Otherwise, I dunno...Athena sucks throughout, and Orb 3-D has a severe case of suckage in later levels. And the fact that success in Dragon Power is almost entirely dependent on the RNG, well, that also sucks. But worst ever on the NES? I'm not sure if I've played that game yet.
The old "E.T. Syndrome", where people blurt out how bad something is without understanding it, and without knowing how foolish they sound saying it when there's far worse games than it. Hell, HSW also did indiana jones, which is much more complex than ET, how come it gets none of the hate?
One big issue people talk about with Dark Towers is sword speed, because they 1) don't get you need to fire up close at first, and 2) they don't get it raises in speed with power ups. My biggest issues with the game involve the "warps" and hidden mazes. And pretty damned boring boss fights where they just sit infront of a door...
Anyways, you're all full of shit. The WORST Nintendo game is one that good a great game, and fucked it so hard in the ass it's guts were ripped apart. A game that I loved dearly, a game that, in some circles, is considered a holy object. That game?
Oh, don't remember the box? The iconic box, that later got the series the name "the gold box series"? Here's their first fuckup:
Why the fuck is it blue? I mean sure, the source materal was green:
But is that, the changing of the sacred gold box, the sin? Hell no. What about how they randomly dropped a ton of class combos from the game for no reason? Nah, that's not it. This is mostly about graphics, and control. This is the game I grew up playing:
And on amiga:
This is the shit that got ported to the nes:
Wanna see the above fight on PC?
Control is all fucked up, items are all over the place, and I'm not even sure the math of the unerlying engine is correct in the short time I played. This series got me started on RPGs, introduced me to tactical RPGs and the Dungeons and Dragons, and has cost me a few hundred to complete the set. It's an amazing series, turned into a pile of crap by FCI and Pony Canyon. The same fuckers who did hydlide (A game that actually helped videos out a ton in development; people don't seem to know it predates the nes by many years and just never should have been ported as-is)
This is the worst game ever, because of the damage it did to my feelings.
Yeah pretty much. I have two copies of ET now, the original and Khan's homebrew NES port. Falling in pits sucks. They say you can learn around it but I don't have the patience to learn how to play a bad game.
I personally never had much of a problem with the pits -- the way the collision detection works was pretty intuitive to me, even as a kid. If you exit pits from the bottom or left sides, you usually don't have a problem; exiting from the top is almost always a bad idea.
I just played a quick (10 min.) game of E.T. to make sure I'm not remembering through nostalgia-colored glasses. Yeah, the pits are annoying on occasion, but it doesn't take long to get the hang of it, and when you do fall you quickly get in the habit of catching yourself in midair.
What's more annoying is the way the scientist and FBI agent will totally photobomb you when you're waiting for the mothership (if they're onscreen when the timer finishes, the ship doesn't come). There's literally nothing you can do about it, other than memorizing the pattern and timing of their appearances. The scientist materializes right next to you!
It's also irritating when they get stuck on the bottom of the screen in the area that contains the only zone where you can summon the mothership. There again, you can't summon it when they're onscreen, so you have to go elsewhere to kill time or trigger the "unstuck".
But overall, E.T. a bad game? It's not even in the bottom half of the VCS's library. I'd call it a middling-to-good game, certainly more ambitious than a lot of the third-rate arcadey crap on the system.
That was quite the trip! As are most with the elite inner circle!
Remember that one time when dra600n found that box of magic glasses in a dumpster that one time and we all put em on and saw aliens all over the place that one time? And then you said something hilarious like "Hotdogglers don't like tattletales" then we all partied with April Wine on their bus? That was awesome.
Yeah pretty much. I have two copies of ET now, the original and Khan's homebrew NES port. Falling in pits sucks. They say you can learn around it but I don't have the patience to learn how to play a bad game.
I personally never had much of a problem with the pits -- the way the collision detection works was pretty intuitive to me, even as a kid. If you exit pits from the bottom or left sides, you usually don't have a problem; exiting from the top is almost always a bad idea.
I just played a quick (10 min.) game of E.T. to make sure I'm not remembering through nostalgia-colored glasses. Yeah, the pits are annoying on occasion, but it doesn't take long to get the hang of it, and when you do fall you quickly get in the habit of catching yourself in midair.
What's more annoying is the way the scientist and FBI agent will totally photobomb you when you're waiting for the mothership (if they're onscreen when the timer finishes, the ship doesn't come). There's literally nothing you can do about it, other than memorizing the pattern and timing of their appearances. The scientist materializes right next to you!
It's also irritating when they get stuck on the bottom of the screen in the area that contains the only zone where you can summon the mothership. There again, you can't summon it when they're onscreen, so you have to go elsewhere to kill time or trigger the "unstuck".
But overall, E.T. a bad game? It's not even in the bottom half of the VCS's library. I'd call it a middling-to-good game, certainly more ambitious than a lot of the third-rate arcadey crap on the system.
Yea everyone complains about the pits, thoese are simple to figure out. If your feet are hanging in mid air, your ass will fall, kinda simple. And the catching yourself before you land is pretty basic too, and I thought it was in the manual. *AND* you dont even need to get into the pits if you find a ?. Hell, how many Atari games can you pick up items to recharge your health when needed?
And the worst part of the game, no one mentions. Hate waiting for the ship to land only to have some flasher stroll on screen; but sometimes you're lucky and you have a return humans to buildings zone in the forest too.
But overall, E.T. a bad game? It's not even in the bottom half of the VCS's library. I'd call it a middling-to-good game, certainly more ambitious than a lot of the third-rate arcadey crap on the system.
Oh, god, there are tons of horrible, horrible games on the 2600, way worse than E.T.
Quadrun, Bobby is Going Home, Journey Escape, Oink! (Activision game of all things), the whole Panda/Sancho/Froggo library, Firefly (heck, all three Mythicon games suck), any of the Mystique/Playaround games, Donkey Kong and DK Jr. got horrible 2600 ports (play them sometime.) The list goes on.
^And Sssnake! When I got that game I was 7 or 8 years old, and even then I knew it was total crap & a bad sign for the gaming industry (which crashed shortly thereafter, or was already in the process of so doing).
"Donkey Kong" is a far cry from the arcade game, but isn't too bad for an Atari 2600 game. The girders slant. The player's sprite is large and multi-colored. It doesn't flicker. It's playable.
"Donkey Kong" is a far cry from the arcade game, but isn't too bad for an Atari 2600 game. The girders slant. The player's sprite is large and multi-colored. It doesn't flicker. It's playable.
Yeah, but only two levels. DK Jr is worse, though.
Total Recall. Silent Service. Deadly Towers. BIBLE ADVENTURES, parents bought me this retarded game and I absolutely hated it. BIBLE ADVENTURES in case I forgot to mention it.
I gotta stop you right there. It's got it's quirks, but I actually had fun with this title. I've seen it on several "bottom 20" lists though.
"Donkey Kong" is a far cry from the arcade game, but isn't too bad for an Atari 2600 game. The girders slant. The player's sprite is large and multi-colored. It doesn't flicker. It's playable.
Yeah, but only two levels. DK Jr is worse, though.
Blasphemy.
I suggest you play the 2600 versions of those and then say the NES version is bad. I got DK Classics and both games are solid, although "DK: Complete Edition" aka "Pie Foundry" is perfect! I still cherish my RetroUSB repro of that game...
I try to judge a game based on what it was attempting to be. In my opinion, a game like Silent Service isn't bad, it's just that most people don't have the patience to learn simulation games and they go in blind hoping for an underwater action shooter or something. So I'd judge a game relative to its genre and release date. Having said that, Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, Conan, and Hook were three that immediately came to mind. I actually enjoyed 10-Yard Fight. Of all the black box games, Volleyball is my least favorite
I try to judge a game based on what it was attempting to be. In my opinion, a game like Silent Service isn't bad, it's just that most people don't have the patience to learn simulation games and they go in blind hoping for an underwater action shooter or something.
This is 100% spot on. It's always a mistake to condemn something for not being something it's not trying to be. If you're in the mood for a hamburger but end up with pizza instead, it's not the pizza's fault!
And -- on a related note -- we should always be aware of our blind spots and when something simply isn't in our wheelhouse. If I don't like realistic sub simulation games, it'd be foolish of me to say that Silent Service sucks if I'm not even its intended audience (that audience being "people who like realistic sub simulation games"). Same thing with football games, FPSes, Koei-style games, and any number of other game types that some people like and others don't.
"Donkey Kong" is a far cry from the arcade game, but isn't too bad for an Atari 2600 game. The girders slant. The player's sprite is large and multi-colored. It doesn't flicker. It's playable.
Yeah, but only two levels. DK Jr is worse, though.
Blasphemy.
I suggest you play the 2600 versions of those and then say the NES version is bad. I got DK Classics and both games are solid, although "DK: Complete Edition" aka "Pie Foundry" is perfect! I still cherish my RetroUSB repro of that game...
"Donkey Kong" is a far cry from the arcade game, but isn't too bad for an Atari 2600 game. The girders slant. The player's sprite is large and multi-colored. It doesn't flicker. It's playable.
Yeah, but only two levels. DK Jr is worse, though.
Blasphemy.
I suggest you play the 2600 versions of those and then say the NES version is bad. I got DK Classics and both games are solid, although "DK: Complete Edition" aka "Pie Foundry" is perfect! I still cherish my RetroUSB repro of that game...
The worst NES game is Batman: Return of the Joker.
...Is what someone devoid of taste would say. Dynamite Batman is godlike once you adjust to the fact that it isn't your run-of-the-mill "go right and kill stuff" type game. Same with Sword Master.
What's worse, the fact that I like almost every game mentioned so far in this thread, or the fact that my vote for worst NES game goes to Super Mario Bros 3? You decide!
SMB3 huh? I think you're trying too hard to be different.
Wiz has been saying this for years. I sincerely doubt he's just trying to be different..
Took the words right out of my mouth! I hate the first one too, but not enough to knock the third off it's perch. They're my 1-2 worst games by far though.
What's worse, the fact that I like almost every game mentioned so far in this thread, or the fact that my vote for worst NES game goes to Super Mario Bros 3? You decide!
SMB3 huh? I think you're trying too hard to be different.
Wiz has been saying this for years. I sincerely doubt he's just trying to be different..
Took the words right out of my mouth! I hate the first one too, but not enough to knock the third off it's perch. They're my 1-2 worst games by far though.
It could just mean that he has been trying to be different for years! I mean, come on, everyone's opinions are going to vary, but to say all LJN games, Hydlide, Deadly Towers, Knight Rider, and all 400 other bad NES games are better than SMB3 is just crazy talk.
What's worse, the fact that I like almost every game mentioned so far in this thread, or the fact that my vote for worst NES game goes to Super Mario Bros 3? You decide!
SMB3 huh? I think you're trying too hard to be different.
Wiz has been saying this for years. I sincerely doubt he's just trying to be different..
Took the words right out of my mouth! I hate the first one too, but not enough to knock the third off it's perch. They're my 1-2 worst games by far though.
It could just mean that he has been trying to be different for years! I mean, come on, everyone's opinions are going to vary, but to say all LJN games, Hydlide, Deadly Towers, Knight Rider, and all 400 other bad NES games are better than SMB3 is just crazy talk.
I'll give you Knight Rider, but Hydlide and Deadly Towers aren't that bad. As for LJN, I haven't played one I don't like yet, and I even rank The Punisher as one of my top five favorites. There's only been a couple games in this thread that I can say I didn't like, and I would sooner play any one of them before SMB3. I don't know why I don't like it, I just flat out don't, but I would play Days of Thunder, Rocky & Bullwinkle, or fuck, even Color a Dinosaur before I ever fire up SMB3 again.
While I think calling SMB3 the worst NES game is pretty stupid, I will also concede that to me the 3D Marios (Anything that uses a "wii mote") and Zeldas (Twilight Princess specifically) are some of the worst games I've ever played in my life. And I'm 100% not kidding, so I can see his point of view.
What's worse, the fact that I like almost every game mentioned so far in this thread, or the fact that my vote for worst NES game goes to Super Mario Bros 3? You decide!
SMB3 huh? I think you're trying too hard to be different.
Wiz has been saying this for years. I sincerely doubt he's just trying to be different..
Took the words right out of my mouth! I hate the first one too, but not enough to knock the third off it's perch. They're my 1-2 worst games by far though.
It could just mean that he has been trying to be different for years! I mean, come on, everyone's opinions are going to vary, but to say all LJN games, Hydlide, Deadly Towers, Knight Rider, and all 400 other bad NES games are better than SMB3 is just crazy talk.
I'll give you Knight Rider, but Hydlide and Deadly Towers aren't that bad. As for LJN, I haven't played one I don't like yet, and I even rank The Punisher as one of my top five favorites. There's only been a couple games in this thread that I can say I didn't like, and I would sooner play any one of them before SMB3. I don't know why I don't like it, I just flat out don't, but I would play Days of Thunder, Rocky & Bullwinkle, or fuck, even Color a Dinosaur before I ever fire up SMB3 again.
Being a huge Days of Thunder fan I was very excited to see they had made a nes game for it. That excitement quickly left when I fired up the game. Color a Dinosaur isn't bad either, it provides some solid chuckles because of the god awful patterns you can use to "color"
What's worse, the fact that I like almost every game mentioned so far in this thread, or the fact that my vote for worst NES game goes to Super Mario Bros 3? You decide!
SMB3 huh? I think you're trying too hard to be different.
Wiz has been saying this for years. I sincerely doubt he's just trying to be different..
Took the words right out of my mouth! I hate the first one too, but not enough to knock the third off it's perch. They're my 1-2 worst games by far though.
It could just mean that he has been trying to be different for years! I mean, come on, everyone's opinions are going to vary, but to say all LJN games, Hydlide, Deadly Towers, Knight Rider, and all 400 other bad NES games are better than SMB3 is just crazy talk.
I'll give you Knight Rider, but Hydlide and Deadly Towers aren't that bad. As for LJN, I haven't played one I don't like yet, and I even rank The Punisher as one of my top five favorites. There's only been a couple games in this thread that I can say I didn't like, and I would sooner play any one of them before SMB3. I don't know why I don't like it, I just flat out don't, but I would play Days of Thunder, Rocky & Bullwinkle, or fuck, even Color a Dinosaur before I ever fire up SMB3 again.
Being a huge Days of Thunder fan I was very excited to see they had made a nes game for it. That excitement quickly left when I fired up the game. Color a Dinosaur isn't bad either, it provides some solid chuckles because of the god awful patterns you can use to "color"
Honestly, I was just racking my brain for games that are commonly considered to be "bad" games that I also don't particularly like. It's actually a fairly short list, most games that get hated on are games I actually enjoy playing, or at least are games that are better (in my opinion) than their reputation. Even now, the only other game I can think of offhand would be The Last Starfighter. It's funny, people rag on LJN as the worst publisher, but most of their games are at least decently playable. THQ is in the same boat...there's some obvious stinkers, but much of their stuff is at least passable. Mindscape though...they never get the hate, but even though I enjoy some of their games that most people wouldn't, I still can't defend shit like The Last Starfighter or Days of Thunder.
Being a huge Days of Thunder fan I was very excited to see they had made a nes game for it. That excitement quickly left when I fired up the game. Color a Dinosaur isn't bad either, it provides some solid chuckles because of the god awful patterns you can use to "color"
Honestly, I was just racking my brain for games that are commonly considered to be "bad" games that I also don't particularly like. It's actually a fairly short list, most games that get hated on are games I actually enjoy playing, or at least are games that are better (in my opinion) than their reputation. Even now, the only other game I can think of offhand would be The Last Starfighter. It's funny, people rag on LJN as the worst publisher, but most of their games are at least decently playable. THQ is in the same boat...there's some obvious stinkers, but much of their stuff is at least passable. Mindscape though...they never get the hate, but even though I enjoy some of their games that most people wouldn't, I still can't defend shit like The Last Starfighter or Days of Thunder.
LJN deserves it and I agree that Mindscape deserves more hate.
For me, Rocky and Bullwinkle is up there. It's probably not the worst, but it absolutely did a disservice to a franchise that I otherwise adore. What a pile of shit that game is.
I don't know anything about the franchise, but I popped it in a few weeks ago and boy does it suck major ass!
Being a huge Days of Thunder fan I was very excited to see they had made a nes game for it. That excitement quickly left when I fired up the game. Color a Dinosaur isn't bad either, it provides some solid chuckles because of the god awful patterns you can use to "color"
Honestly, I was just racking my brain for games that are commonly considered to be "bad" games that I also don't particularly like. It's actually a fairly short list, most games that get hated on are games I actually enjoy playing, or at least are games that are better (in my opinion) than their reputation. Even now, the only other game I can think of offhand would be The Last Starfighter. It's funny, people rag on LJN as the worst publisher, but most of their games are at least decently playable. THQ is in the same boat...there's some obvious stinkers, but much of their stuff is at least passable. Mindscape though...they never get the hate, but even though I enjoy some of their games that most people wouldn't, I still can't defend shit like The Last Starfighter or Days of Thunder.
LJN deserves it and I agree that Mindscape deserves more hate.
I actually love most of LJN's releases. They're not perfect, but they're not as bad as people think. I haven't played NFL or MLB, but aside from that I can't think of one LJN title that I don't like. Mindscape shoots about 50% for me personally, but even the games I like I can see why most people don't like them.
I got my Action Set used for Christmas in '91. Days of Thunder was one of the games included. Terrible, terrible piece of shit. It gets my vote.
In that same pool is Bill Elliott's nascar. There's a learning curve I can't get over to even be competetive, and I'm not sure how much that would improve things. I have no problem turning those carts into better games.
I got my Action Set used for Christmas in '91. Days of Thunder was one of the games included. Terrible, terrible piece of shit. It gets my vote.
In that same pool is Bill Elliott's nascar. There's a learning curve I can't get over to even be competetive, and I'm not sure how much that would improve things. I have no problem turning those carts into better games.
Learning curve for sure. Granted I was a child but being stuck against a wall and having cars lap you is not fun. Some games deserve to be gutted.
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Some of the games named are awesome! Dr. Chaos? Silent Service? Deadly Towers? All are in the upper 50% for the system, and Dr. Chaos is probably in the upper 25%. I've noticed that for a lot of people, "bad game" = "game that makes me feel stupid". I understand that impulse but I can't really get behind it, especially if someone hasn't read the manual -- that's not the game's fault. For me, wasting my time is a much more serious offense; I'll never forgive Back to the Future for its bullshit, one-chance-only last stage that ruins everything that came before. Anyway, if you include unlicensed games, then Action 52 clearly takes the cake. Otherwise, I dunno...Athena sucks throughout, and Orb 3-D has a severe case of suckage in later levels. And the fact that success in Dragon Power is almost entirely dependent on the RNG, well, that also sucks. But worst ever on the NES? I'm not sure if I've played that game yet.
The old "E.T. Syndrome", where people blurt out how bad something is without understanding it, and without knowing how foolish they sound saying it when there's far worse games than it. Hell, HSW also did indiana jones, which is much more complex than ET, how come it gets none of the hate?
One big issue people talk about with Dark Towers is sword speed, because they 1) don't get you need to fire up close at first, and 2) they don't get it raises in speed with power ups. My biggest issues with the game involve the "warps" and hidden mazes. And pretty damned boring boss fights where they just sit infront of a door...
Anyways, you're all full of shit. The WORST Nintendo game is one that good a great game, and fucked it so hard in the ass it's guts were ripped apart. A game that I loved dearly, a game that, in some circles, is considered a holy object. That game?
Oh, don't remember the box? The iconic box, that later got the series the name "the gold box series"? Here's their first fuckup:
Why the fuck is it blue? I mean sure, the source materal was green:
But is that, the changing of the sacred gold box, the sin? Hell no. What about how they randomly dropped a ton of class combos from the game for no reason? Nah, that's not it. This is mostly about graphics, and control. This is the game I grew up playing:
And on amiga:
This is the shit that got ported to the nes:
Wanna see the above fight on PC?
Control is all fucked up, items are all over the place, and I'm not even sure the math of the unerlying engine is correct in the short time I played. This series got me started on RPGs, introduced me to tactical RPGs and the Dungeons and Dragons, and has cost me a few hundred to complete the set. It's an amazing series, turned into a pile of crap by FCI and Pony Canyon. The same fuckers who did hydlide (A game that actually helped videos out a ton in development; people don't seem to know it predates the nes by many years and just never should have been ported as-is)
This is the worst game ever, because of the damage it did to my feelings.
(Also cause they removed this:
Pool of Radiance is a hot mess.
Yeah pretty much. I have two copies of ET now, the original and Khan's homebrew NES port. Falling in pits sucks. They say you can learn around it but I don't have the patience to learn how to play a bad game.
I personally never had much of a problem with the pits -- the way the collision detection works was pretty intuitive to me, even as a kid. If you exit pits from the bottom or left sides, you usually don't have a problem; exiting from the top is almost always a bad idea.
I just played a quick (10 min.) game of E.T. to make sure I'm not remembering through nostalgia-colored glasses. Yeah, the pits are annoying on occasion, but it doesn't take long to get the hang of it, and when you do fall you quickly get in the habit of catching yourself in midair.
What's more annoying is the way the scientist and FBI agent will totally photobomb you when you're waiting for the mothership (if they're onscreen when the timer finishes, the ship doesn't come). There's literally nothing you can do about it, other than memorizing the pattern and timing of their appearances. The scientist materializes right next to you!
It's also irritating when they get stuck on the bottom of the screen in the area that contains the only zone where you can summon the mothership. There again, you can't summon it when they're onscreen, so you have to go elsewhere to kill time or trigger the "unstuck".
But overall, E.T. a bad game? It's not even in the bottom half of the VCS's library. I'd call it a middling-to-good game, certainly more ambitious than a lot of the third-rate arcadey crap on the system.
That was quite the trip! As are most with the elite inner circle!
Remember that one time when dra600n found that box of magic glasses in a dumpster that one time and we all put em on and saw aliens all over the place that one time? And then you said something hilarious like "Hotdogglers don't like tattletales" then we all partied with April Wine on their bus? That was awesome.
Originally posted by: bronzeshield
Originally posted by: stardust4ever
Yeah pretty much. I have two copies of ET now, the original and Khan's homebrew NES port. Falling in pits sucks. They say you can learn around it but I don't have the patience to learn how to play a bad game.
I personally never had much of a problem with the pits -- the way the collision detection works was pretty intuitive to me, even as a kid. If you exit pits from the bottom or left sides, you usually don't have a problem; exiting from the top is almost always a bad idea.
I just played a quick (10 min.) game of E.T. to make sure I'm not remembering through nostalgia-colored glasses. Yeah, the pits are annoying on occasion, but it doesn't take long to get the hang of it, and when you do fall you quickly get in the habit of catching yourself in midair.
What's more annoying is the way the scientist and FBI agent will totally photobomb you when you're waiting for the mothership (if they're onscreen when the timer finishes, the ship doesn't come). There's literally nothing you can do about it, other than memorizing the pattern and timing of their appearances. The scientist materializes right next to you!
It's also irritating when they get stuck on the bottom of the screen in the area that contains the only zone where you can summon the mothership. There again, you can't summon it when they're onscreen, so you have to go elsewhere to kill time or trigger the "unstuck".
But overall, E.T. a bad game? It's not even in the bottom half of the VCS's library. I'd call it a middling-to-good game, certainly more ambitious than a lot of the third-rate arcadey crap on the system.
Yea everyone complains about the pits, thoese are simple to figure out. If your feet are hanging in mid air, your ass will fall, kinda simple. And the catching yourself before you land is pretty basic too, and I thought it was in the manual. *AND* you dont even need to get into the pits if you find a ?. Hell, how many Atari games can you pick up items to recharge your health when needed?
And the worst part of the game, no one mentions. Hate waiting for the ship to land only to have some flasher stroll on screen; but sometimes you're lucky and you have a return humans to buildings zone in the forest too.
Ill say the one i always say when this topic comes up: castelian.
Haha I actually like Castelian
But overall, E.T. a bad game? It's not even in the bottom half of the VCS's library. I'd call it a middling-to-good game, certainly more ambitious than a lot of the third-rate arcadey crap on the system.
Oh, god, there are tons of horrible, horrible games on the 2600, way worse than E.T.
Quadrun, Bobby is Going Home, Journey Escape, Oink! (Activision game of all things), the whole Panda/Sancho/Froggo library, Firefly (heck, all three Mythicon games suck), any of the Mystique/Playaround games, Donkey Kong and DK Jr. got horrible 2600 ports (play them sometime.) The list goes on.
"Karate" is much worse than "E.T.".
"Donkey Kong" is a far cry from the arcade game, but isn't too bad for an Atari 2600 game. The girders slant. The player's sprite is large and multi-colored. It doesn't flicker. It's playable.
Yeah, but only two levels. DK Jr is worse, though.
Total Recall. Silent Service. Deadly Towers. BIBLE ADVENTURES, parents bought me this retarded game and I absolutely hated it. BIBLE ADVENTURES in case I forgot to mention it.
I gotta stop you right there. It's got it's quirks, but I actually had fun with this title. I've seen it on several "bottom 20" lists though.
"Donkey Kong" is a far cry from the arcade game, but isn't too bad for an Atari 2600 game. The girders slant. The player's sprite is large and multi-colored. It doesn't flicker. It's playable.
Yeah, but only two levels. DK Jr is worse, though.
Blasphemy.
I suggest you play the 2600 versions of those and then say the NES version is bad. I got DK Classics and both games are solid, although "DK: Complete Edition" aka "Pie Foundry" is perfect! I still cherish my RetroUSB repro of that game...
I try to judge a game based on what it was attempting to be. In my opinion, a game like Silent Service isn't bad, it's just that most people don't have the patience to learn simulation games and they go in blind hoping for an underwater action shooter or something.
This is 100% spot on. It's always a mistake to condemn something for not being something it's not trying to be. If you're in the mood for a hamburger but end up with pizza instead, it's not the pizza's fault!
And -- on a related note -- we should always be aware of our blind spots and when something simply isn't in our wheelhouse. If I don't like realistic sub simulation games, it'd be foolish of me to say that Silent Service sucks if I'm not even its intended audience (that audience being "people who like realistic sub simulation games"). Same thing with football games, FPSes, Koei-style games, and any number of other game types that some people like and others don't.
"Donkey Kong" is a far cry from the arcade game, but isn't too bad for an Atari 2600 game. The girders slant. The player's sprite is large and multi-colored. It doesn't flicker. It's playable.
Yeah, but only two levels. DK Jr is worse, though.
Blasphemy.
I suggest you play the 2600 versions of those and then say the NES version is bad. I got DK Classics and both games are solid, although "DK: Complete Edition" aka "Pie Foundry" is perfect! I still cherish my RetroUSB repro of that game...
I was talking about the 2600 versions.
"Donkey Kong" is a far cry from the arcade game, but isn't too bad for an Atari 2600 game. The girders slant. The player's sprite is large and multi-colored. It doesn't flicker. It's playable.
Yeah, but only two levels. DK Jr is worse, though.
Blasphemy.
I suggest you play the 2600 versions of those and then say the NES version is bad. I got DK Classics and both games are solid, although "DK: Complete Edition" aka "Pie Foundry" is perfect! I still cherish my RetroUSB repro of that game...
I was talking about the 2600 versions.
D'oh!
The worst NES game is Batman: Return of the Joker.
...Is what someone devoid of taste would say. Dynamite Batman is godlike once you adjust to the fact that it isn't your run-of-the-mill "go right and kill stuff" type game. Same with Sword Master.
What's worse, the fact that I like almost every game mentioned so far in this thread, or the fact that my vote for worst NES game goes to Super Mario Bros 3? You decide!
SMB3 huh? I think you're trying too hard to be different.
Wiz has been saying this for years. I sincerely doubt he's just trying to be different..
Took the words right out of my mouth! I hate the first one too, but not enough to knock the third off it's perch. They're my 1-2 worst games by far though.
What's worse, the fact that I like almost every game mentioned so far in this thread, or the fact that my vote for worst NES game goes to Super Mario Bros 3? You decide!
SMB3 huh? I think you're trying too hard to be different.
Wiz has been saying this for years. I sincerely doubt he's just trying to be different..
Took the words right out of my mouth! I hate the first one too, but not enough to knock the third off it's perch. They're my 1-2 worst games by far though.
It could just mean that he has been trying to be different for years! I mean, come on, everyone's opinions are going to vary, but to say all LJN games, Hydlide, Deadly Towers, Knight Rider, and all 400 other bad NES games are better than SMB3 is just crazy talk.
What's worse, the fact that I like almost every game mentioned so far in this thread, or the fact that my vote for worst NES game goes to Super Mario Bros 3? You decide!
SMB3 huh? I think you're trying too hard to be different.
Wiz has been saying this for years. I sincerely doubt he's just trying to be different..
Took the words right out of my mouth! I hate the first one too, but not enough to knock the third off it's perch. They're my 1-2 worst games by far though.
It could just mean that he has been trying to be different for years! I mean, come on, everyone's opinions are going to vary, but to say all LJN games, Hydlide, Deadly Towers, Knight Rider, and all 400 other bad NES games are better than SMB3 is just crazy talk.
I'll give you Knight Rider, but Hydlide and Deadly Towers aren't that bad. As for LJN, I haven't played one I don't like yet, and I even rank The Punisher as one of my top five favorites. There's only been a couple games in this thread that I can say I didn't like, and I would sooner play any one of them before SMB3. I don't know why I don't like it, I just flat out don't, but I would play Days of Thunder, Rocky & Bullwinkle, or fuck, even Color a Dinosaur before I ever fire up SMB3 again.
What's worse, the fact that I like almost every game mentioned so far in this thread, or the fact that my vote for worst NES game goes to Super Mario Bros 3? You decide!
SMB3 huh? I think you're trying too hard to be different.
Wiz has been saying this for years. I sincerely doubt he's just trying to be different..
Took the words right out of my mouth! I hate the first one too, but not enough to knock the third off it's perch. They're my 1-2 worst games by far though.
It could just mean that he has been trying to be different for years! I mean, come on, everyone's opinions are going to vary, but to say all LJN games, Hydlide, Deadly Towers, Knight Rider, and all 400 other bad NES games are better than SMB3 is just crazy talk.
I'll give you Knight Rider, but Hydlide and Deadly Towers aren't that bad. As for LJN, I haven't played one I don't like yet, and I even rank The Punisher as one of my top five favorites. There's only been a couple games in this thread that I can say I didn't like, and I would sooner play any one of them before SMB3. I don't know why I don't like it, I just flat out don't, but I would play Days of Thunder, Rocky & Bullwinkle, or fuck, even Color a Dinosaur before I ever fire up SMB3 again.
Being a huge Days of Thunder fan I was very excited to see they had made a nes game for it. That excitement quickly left when I fired up the game. Color a Dinosaur isn't bad either, it provides some solid chuckles because of the god awful patterns you can use to "color"
What's worse, the fact that I like almost every game mentioned so far in this thread, or the fact that my vote for worst NES game goes to Super Mario Bros 3? You decide!
SMB3 huh? I think you're trying too hard to be different.
Wiz has been saying this for years. I sincerely doubt he's just trying to be different..
Took the words right out of my mouth! I hate the first one too, but not enough to knock the third off it's perch. They're my 1-2 worst games by far though.
It could just mean that he has been trying to be different for years! I mean, come on, everyone's opinions are going to vary, but to say all LJN games, Hydlide, Deadly Towers, Knight Rider, and all 400 other bad NES games are better than SMB3 is just crazy talk.
I'll give you Knight Rider, but Hydlide and Deadly Towers aren't that bad. As for LJN, I haven't played one I don't like yet, and I even rank The Punisher as one of my top five favorites. There's only been a couple games in this thread that I can say I didn't like, and I would sooner play any one of them before SMB3. I don't know why I don't like it, I just flat out don't, but I would play Days of Thunder, Rocky & Bullwinkle, or fuck, even Color a Dinosaur before I ever fire up SMB3 again.
Being a huge Days of Thunder fan I was very excited to see they had made a nes game for it. That excitement quickly left when I fired up the game. Color a Dinosaur isn't bad either, it provides some solid chuckles because of the god awful patterns you can use to "color"
Honestly, I was just racking my brain for games that are commonly considered to be "bad" games that I also don't particularly like. It's actually a fairly short list, most games that get hated on are games I actually enjoy playing, or at least are games that are better (in my opinion) than their reputation. Even now, the only other game I can think of offhand would be The Last Starfighter. It's funny, people rag on LJN as the worst publisher, but most of their games are at least decently playable. THQ is in the same boat...there's some obvious stinkers, but much of their stuff is at least passable. Mindscape though...they never get the hate, but even though I enjoy some of their games that most people wouldn't, I still can't defend shit like The Last Starfighter or Days of Thunder.
Being a huge Days of Thunder fan I was very excited to see they had made a nes game for it. That excitement quickly left when I fired up the game. Color a Dinosaur isn't bad either, it provides some solid chuckles because of the god awful patterns you can use to "color"
Honestly, I was just racking my brain for games that are commonly considered to be "bad" games that I also don't particularly like. It's actually a fairly short list, most games that get hated on are games I actually enjoy playing, or at least are games that are better (in my opinion) than their reputation. Even now, the only other game I can think of offhand would be The Last Starfighter. It's funny, people rag on LJN as the worst publisher, but most of their games are at least decently playable. THQ is in the same boat...there's some obvious stinkers, but much of their stuff is at least passable. Mindscape though...they never get the hate, but even though I enjoy some of their games that most people wouldn't, I still can't defend shit like The Last Starfighter or Days of Thunder.
LJN deserves it and I agree that Mindscape deserves more hate.
For me, Rocky and Bullwinkle is up there. It's probably not the worst, but it absolutely did a disservice to a franchise that I otherwise adore. What a pile of shit that game is.
I don't know anything about the franchise, but I popped it in a few weeks ago and boy does it suck major ass!
Being a huge Days of Thunder fan I was very excited to see they had made a nes game for it. That excitement quickly left when I fired up the game. Color a Dinosaur isn't bad either, it provides some solid chuckles because of the god awful patterns you can use to "color"
Honestly, I was just racking my brain for games that are commonly considered to be "bad" games that I also don't particularly like. It's actually a fairly short list, most games that get hated on are games I actually enjoy playing, or at least are games that are better (in my opinion) than their reputation. Even now, the only other game I can think of offhand would be The Last Starfighter. It's funny, people rag on LJN as the worst publisher, but most of their games are at least decently playable. THQ is in the same boat...there's some obvious stinkers, but much of their stuff is at least passable. Mindscape though...they never get the hate, but even though I enjoy some of their games that most people wouldn't, I still can't defend shit like The Last Starfighter or Days of Thunder.
LJN deserves it and I agree that Mindscape deserves more hate.
I actually love most of LJN's releases. They're not perfect, but they're not as bad as people think. I haven't played NFL or MLB, but aside from that I can't think of one LJN title that I don't like. Mindscape shoots about 50% for me personally, but even the games I like I can see why most people don't like them.
I got my Action Set used for Christmas in '91. Days of Thunder was one of the games included. Terrible, terrible piece of shit. It gets my vote.
In that same pool is Bill Elliott's nascar. There's a learning curve I can't get over to even be competetive, and I'm not sure how much that would improve things. I have no problem turning those carts into better games.
I got my Action Set used for Christmas in '91. Days of Thunder was one of the games included. Terrible, terrible piece of shit. It gets my vote.
In that same pool is Bill Elliott's nascar. There's a learning curve I can't get over to even be competetive, and I'm not sure how much that would improve things. I have no problem turning those carts into better games.
Learning curve for sure. Granted I was a child but being stuck against a wall and having cars lap you is not fun. Some games deserve to be gutted.