You know, this thread really helped explain something that had bothered me for a good long time. When I was a kid playing Mario All -Stars, SMB2 and 3 seemed fine (I almost came to prefer the All-Stars version of SMB2...almost) but SMB1 always seemed so...off to me. I can't put a name to it, but SMB1 always felt weirdly wrong, like the jumps were kind of floaty and the running inertia seemed way too generous, like you'd move a lot farther in All-Stars than the NES version.
Maybe I'm remembering it wrong since it has been FOREVER since I've bothered touching All-Stars, but SMB1 was always the weak link in it to me, and the only one of the three I can concretely say I prefer the NES version of.
So here's a dumb question, and maybe one that's been answered here before, but what exactly is so rancid about the SNES Ninja Gaiden? I hear everyone complaining about it but I've never played it myself and I've never really seen a good description of what the problem is. Conversion problems, or something more sinister?
I might be in the minority on this one, but I prefer Smash TV on the NES over the SNES version. The action in the NES one doesn't feel as hectic and I love how you can use two controllers to move your character and shoot. It feels way more natural that way as opposed to the SNES version mapping everything onto one controller.
Yeah I like to play it this way too, I can't believe people think Smash TV is a bad game. I was thrilled the first time I finally beat Smash TV
I'm glad someone else mentioned Tournament Fighters in this thread. Love the NES version, don't like the Genesis or SNES versions. They're all pretty unique, though.
You know, this thread really helped explain something that had bothered me for a good long time. When I was a kid playing Mario All -Stars, SMB2 and 3 seemed fine (I almost came to prefer the All-Stars version of SMB2...almost) but SMB1 always seemed so...off to me. I can't put a name to it, but SMB1 always felt weirdly wrong, like the jumps were kind of floaty and the running inertia seemed way too generous, like you'd move a lot farther in All-Stars than the NES version.
Maybe I'm remembering it wrong since it has been FOREVER since I've bothered touching All-Stars, but SMB1 was always the weak link in it to me, and the only one of the three I can concretely say I prefer the NES version of.
So here's a dumb question, and maybe one that's been answered here before, but what exactly is so rancid about the SNES Ninja Gaiden? I hear everyone complaining about it but I've never played it myself and I've never really seen a good description of what the problem is. Conversion problems, or something more sinister?
The only significant change in All-Stars SMB1 is when you jump to hit a breakable block, you get pulled towards the block instead of away when it breaks. There's a patch floating around to fix that.
Dr. Mario. The added ghost piece wasn't helpful and the increased color detail is distracting for a color-blind person like myself.
Super Mario Bros 3. Saving made it too easy and the parallax scrolling backgrounds made the doors and such have the same issue as Super Mario World (door clearly leads to nothing). Super Mario World 2 didn't have this issue because they always put a fixed-scrolling wall or structure behind the door. SNES SMB3 also reverted a US change to the Japanese one when they got rid of the notch at the end of the first ship in World 8 Dark Land.
Ninja Gaiden. The SNES version was terrible. The music was RUINED. Hearing them butcher it is like nails on a chalkboard after you've heard the original.
I always prefered the nes version of Super Mario Bros.
But for SMB 2 and 3 I always prefered the All Star Version.
I dunno if it has to do with nostalgia or what. The All Star version was the first version I played for all 3 but the first one just doesn't feel right unless it's the nes version.
As someone who's only played the sega genesis version, that does sound strange. Can you elaborate at all. How do they mess up Monopoly? It's a classic board game. You would think every version would be the same game just with different graphics. What's different about them?
As someone who's only played the sega genesis version, that does sound strange. Can you elaborate at all. How do they mess up Monopoly? It's a classic board game. You would think every version would be the same game just with different graphics. What's different about them?
For some of the board game ones, it depends on the CPU "intelligence".
Well now I'm even more confused. I don't know from CPUs. Wouldn't the SNES CPU be more "intelligent" than the NES?
That's entirely up to the programmer. A faster CPU allows for more and more complex AI routines, but it's rarely a limiting factor.
Edit: sometimes a relatively more powerful system will dedicate more CPU resources to graphics and physics and other things and have less performance available for AI than a simpler version of a game running on a simpler system would.
As someone who's only played the sega genesis version, that does sound strange. Can you elaborate at all. How do they mess up Monopoly? It's a classic board game. You would think every version would be the same game just with different graphics. What's different about them?
I didn't say they messed it up exactly the the NES version had a lot better user interface...you can see what properties you have a lot more easily and the trade screen is a lot easier to read than the SNES version. Plus I like how the rent cash register does the bills in the right colors one at a time in the NES version It was one of the NES staples I had growing up so it brings back memories
Tecmo Super Bowl. Much better on the NES in my opinion.
I was curious about that too, how come the SNES version doesn't get nearly as much love as the cult classic that the NES version is?
I played quite a bit of TSB III on SNES this fall. The NES version is more wild chaotic fun, which I think makes it more popular. Games can be played in about half the time as well with the same settings. The SNES version clearly has that Tecmo Bowl feel, but is relatively more realistic and toned down a little. It also adds some nice things like trades, free agency, 2pt conversions, and similar updates.
However, one curiosity I have is why not play TSB v1 on SNES, since that seems to be a pretty direct clone of NES.
Tecmo Super Bowl. Much better on the NES in my opinion.
I was curious about that too, how come the SNES version doesn't get nearly as much love as the cult classic that the NES version is?
Basically, my friends and I played a ton of this game when we were kids. I put more time into this game than any other game I owned, with the exception of Super Mario 3. I have basically finished an undefeated season and won the Super Bowl with every team in the game. I didn't have a SNES until I was older and could purchased one for myself. I've only played the SNES version of Tecmo Super Bowl a few times. While grafically it's better and you can mess around with the various weather settings, it just didn't feel the same. It comes down to the nolstalgia factor for me.
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Maybe I'm remembering it wrong since it has been FOREVER since I've bothered touching All-Stars, but SMB1 was always the weak link in it to me, and the only one of the three I can concretely say I prefer the NES version of.
So here's a dumb question, and maybe one that's been answered here before, but what exactly is so rancid about the SNES Ninja Gaiden? I hear everyone complaining about it but I've never played it myself and I've never really seen a good description of what the problem is. Conversion problems, or something more sinister?
Originally posted by: bimmy_lee
I might be in the minority on this one, but I prefer Smash TV on the NES over the SNES version. The action in the NES one doesn't feel as hectic and I love how you can use two controllers to move your character and shoot. It feels way more natural that way as opposed to the SNES version mapping everything onto one controller.
Yeah I like to play it this way too, I can't believe people think Smash TV is a bad game. I was thrilled the first time I finally beat Smash TV
None of you guys know what you are talking about. That version is so much less responsive, its comical
I'm glad someone else mentioned Tournament Fighters in this thread. Love the NES version, don't like the Genesis or SNES versions. They're all pretty unique, though.
I'd also say Mighty Final Fight if that counts.
Super Mario All Stars and Battletoads/Double Dragon are TERRIBLE on SNES.
From what others have said, it seems Ninja Gaiden went the same way.
mario allstars is great. Have to disagree on that one. Agree with the rest.
Mario's Time machine. In the SNES version you have to manually enter the entire date
Not only opinion. But actual reasoning and facts brought into the equation.
A+ answer
Home Alone! I love the NES version because its pretty unique and goofy.
While both versions are hard as shit. The NES version is next level hard.
Originally posted by: PrinceOfBrains
You know, this thread really helped explain something that had bothered me for a good long time. When I was a kid playing Mario All -Stars, SMB2 and 3 seemed fine (I almost came to prefer the All-Stars version of SMB2...almost) but SMB1 always seemed so...off to me. I can't put a name to it, but SMB1 always felt weirdly wrong, like the jumps were kind of floaty and the running inertia seemed way too generous, like you'd move a lot farther in All-Stars than the NES version.
Maybe I'm remembering it wrong since it has been FOREVER since I've bothered touching All-Stars, but SMB1 was always the weak link in it to me, and the only one of the three I can concretely say I prefer the NES version of.
So here's a dumb question, and maybe one that's been answered here before, but what exactly is so rancid about the SNES Ninja Gaiden? I hear everyone complaining about it but I've never played it myself and I've never really seen a good description of what the problem is. Conversion problems, or something more sinister?
The only significant change in All-Stars SMB1 is when you jump to hit a breakable block, you get pulled towards the block instead of away when it breaks. There's a patch floating around to fix that.
Super Mario Bros 3. Saving made it too easy and the parallax scrolling backgrounds made the doors and such have the same issue as Super Mario World (door clearly leads to nothing). Super Mario World 2 didn't have this issue because they always put a fixed-scrolling wall or structure behind the door. SNES SMB3 also reverted a US change to the Japanese one when they got rid of the notch at the end of the first ship in World 8 Dark Land.
Ninja Gaiden. The SNES version was terrible. The music was RUINED. Hearing them butcher it is like nails on a chalkboard after you've heard the original.
Super Mario All Stars and Battletoads/Double Dragon are TERRIBLE on SNES.
From what others have said, it seems Ninja Gaiden went the same way.
mario allstars is great. Have to disagree on that one. Agree with the rest.
I guess I must clarify... All Stars is decent in itself... but when compared to the original NES, it's not as good.
Not terrible. I was being a little over dramatic. I enjoy it, that's for sure. I just love the originals so much it's tough for me to compare them.
And I prefer the original Super Mario Bros games vs. the All Star.
But for SMB 2 and 3 I always prefered the All Star Version.
I dunno if it has to do with nostalgia or what. The All Star version was the first version I played for all 3 but the first one just doesn't feel right unless it's the nes version.
As someone who's only played the sega genesis version, that does sound strange. Can you elaborate at all. How do they mess up Monopoly? It's a classic board game. You would think every version would be the same game just with different graphics. What's different about them?
For some of the board game ones, it depends on the CPU "intelligence".
Well now I'm even more confused. I don't know from CPUs. Wouldn't the SNES CPU be more "intelligent" than the NES?
That's entirely up to the programmer. A faster CPU allows for more and more complex AI routines, but it's rarely a limiting factor.
Edit: sometimes a relatively more powerful system will dedicate more CPU resources to graphics and physics and other things and have less performance available for AI than a simpler version of a game running on a simpler system would.
As someone who's only played the sega genesis version, that does sound strange. Can you elaborate at all. How do they mess up Monopoly? It's a classic board game. You would think every version would be the same game just with different graphics. What's different about them?
I didn't say they messed it up exactly the the NES version had a lot better user interface...you can see what properties you have a lot more easily and the trade screen is a lot easier to read than the SNES version. Plus I like how the rent cash register does the bills in the right colors one at a time in the NES version It was one of the NES staples I had growing up so it brings back memories
Tecmo Super Bowl. Much better on the NES in my opinion.
I was curious about that too, how come the SNES version doesn't get nearly as much love as the cult classic that the NES version is?
Tecmo Super Bowl. Much better on the NES in my opinion.
I was curious about that too, how come the SNES version doesn't get nearly as much love as the cult classic that the NES version is?
I played quite a bit of TSB III on SNES this fall. The NES version is more wild chaotic fun, which I think makes it more popular. Games can be played in about half the time as well with the same settings. The SNES version clearly has that Tecmo Bowl feel, but is relatively more realistic and toned down a little. It also adds some nice things like trades, free agency, 2pt conversions, and similar updates.
However, one curiosity I have is why not play TSB v1 on SNES, since that seems to be a pretty direct clone of NES.
Tecmo Super Bowl. Much better on the NES in my opinion.
I was curious about that too, how come the SNES version doesn't get nearly as much love as the cult classic that the NES version is?
Basically, my friends and I played a ton of this game when we were kids. I put more time into this game than any other game I owned, with the exception of Super Mario 3. I have basically finished an undefeated season and won the Super Bowl with every team in the game. I didn't have a SNES until I was older and could purchased one for myself. I've only played the SNES version of Tecmo Super Bowl a few times. While grafically it's better and you can mess around with the various weather settings, it just didn't feel the same. It comes down to the nolstalgia factor for me.