Wario's Wood on NES
Just have a quick question for the NA members. I was just looking on Ebay and are there any copies of Wario's Woods on the NES that don't have the top label peeled off? I honestly can't seen to find any. Pretty big design flaw there I suppose. Thanks.
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I remember my old copy of MM6 had the same problem.
Cartridge and label were PRISTINE, except of the top label peeled off cleanly.
I vaguely remember it feeling like the label was thicker and glossier than most of the early library, so I wonder if the paper just held enough spring action to come loose eventually.
(or for that matter, it's possible that the adhesives used in the early 90's, and prior, weren't readily available, or legal to use by 1995)
There are a number of games that are notorious for lifted or peeling labels. I managed to find a copy of Wurm that didn't, and even it has a very slight label ding.
Elmers purple stick glue. Easy to apply, dries clear, keeps labels down. Used it when i made repros. Games i made 4 years ago labels show no signs of lift
My mom had some purple Elmers sticks. I had a few homebrews with labels sticking up. The glue sticks did nothing to fix the labels. Truth be told they were the non-toxic "school glue" variety she had left over from VBS a couple years ago, but it didn't hold at all. In fact she recently did a cut / paste project for this year's VBS, and asked me to scan copies of them. I flipped the pages upside down on the scanner, and when I picked them up, the stuff had un-stickied itself. Kinda makes me lose faith in the Elmer's brand name honestly.
End peel results from a too thick label. I ultimately used Superglue to fix. If you use super glue, be extremely careful not to apply too much. If it goops out from under the label while you press it down, glue residue along with some of your dead skin cells will permanently disfigure the cart plastics!
QUOTE: AMAZON UK:
23 of 27 people found the following review helpful
HASH(0x896d86b4) out of 5 stars Does not stick 10 Jan. 2011
By Luxor1111 - Published on Amazon.com
I have been a teacher for over 15 years. This year, these glue sticks were the worst ever. For some reason, the quality of this product has gone down...perhaps that's why they can sell for so cheap. Regular paper does not stick to anything. So many of my students' glue sticks have broken and fallen out way before getting to the end. I will not recommend this brand next year.
8 of 8 people found the following review helpful
HASH(0x8893e39c) out of 5 stars Fine unless you actually expect stuff to STICK 29 Aug. 2012
By Meghan - Published on Amazon.com
Verified Purchase
These glue sticks are fine if you stick together plain paper (no crayon!) and never expect to touch it again. Otherwise, go with something else.
Trying to glue to crayon-colored surface is a complete waste of time.
Be prepared to hurry- the glue dries incredibly fast.
Don't touch the project again. Otherwise, go with something else.
Trying to glue to crayon-colored surface is a complete waste of time.
Be prepared to hurry- the glue dries incredibly fast.
Don't touch the project again- otherwise, the glue releases and becomes 'unglued'.
I can't really think of an application this glue would be useful for, unless you have a preschooler and they want to glue a bunch of scratch paper that you'll throw away. It certainly doesn't meet my standard for actual projects for the kids, and doesn't hold up to the low expectations of our homeschool projects either. Example: I made 1's/10's/100's squares for my daughter. I glued plain white printer paper to cardboard. Almost immediately, the paper separated from the cardboard and defeated the purpose. Ditto on a money game I created. This stuff just doesn't stick at all.
12 of 13 people found the following review helpful
HASH(0x8892b894) out of 5 stars not recommended 25 Aug. 2010
By Dustin - Published on Amazon.com
Clumps of glue will not turn clear, dries ENTIRELY too quickly, warps the paper, doesn't adhere even the thinnest of paper properly resulting in you having to re-glue the entire project. This glue fails in every possible way it could.
6 of 6 people found the following review helpful
HASH(0x88a27f78) out of 5 stars Shouldn't be called glue 24 Sept. 2011
By Teresha L. Taylor - Published on Amazon.com
I used this product to make a poster for my daughter for her "star student" day and after having to glue things over and over again, in less than 24 hours, every single thing I had glued had either lifted or come off entirely. This shouldn't even be called glue. I cannot believe it. They must have changed the formula because this does NOT WORK! If you are looking for glue sticks that actually glue things, go to Office Depot! If I could give this a zero star rating, I would have.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Elmers-Disappearing-Purple-School-E1560/dp/B00143UIC2
Its even highly possible to have a CIB sealed Wario's Woods with the label peeling inside the box lol
I bought a sealed Wario's Woods recently. After reading this thread, probably gonna keep it that way!
I also have a player's copy with label in great shape too.
Elmers purple stick glue. Easy to apply, dries clear, keeps labels down. Used it when i made repros. Games i made 4 years ago labels show no signs of lift
My mom had some purple Elmers sticks. I had a few homebrews with labels sticking up. The glue sticks did nothing to fix the labels. Truth be told they were the non-toxic "school glue" variety she had left over from VBS a couple years ago, but it didn't hold at all. In fact she recently did a cut / paste project for this year's VBS, and asked me to scan copies of them. I flipped the pages upside down on the scanner, and when I picked them up, the stuff had un-stickied itself. Kinda makes me lose faith in the Elmer's brand name honestly.
End peel results from a too thick label. I ultimately used Superglue to fix. If you use super glue, be extremely careful not to apply too much. If it goops out from under the label while you press it down, glue residue along with some of your dead skin cells will permanently disfigure the cart plastics!
QUOTE: AMAZON UK:
23 of 27 people found the following review helpful
HASH(0x896d86b4) out of 5 stars Does not stick 10 Jan. 2011
By Luxor1111 - Published on Amazon.com
I have been a teacher for over 15 years. This year, these glue sticks were the worst ever. For some reason, the quality of this product has gone down...perhaps that's why they can sell for so cheap. Regular paper does not stick to anything. So many of my students' glue sticks have broken and fallen out way before getting to the end. I will not recommend this brand next year.
8 of 8 people found the following review helpful
HASH(0x8893e39c) out of 5 stars Fine unless you actually expect stuff to STICK 29 Aug. 2012
By Meghan - Published on Amazon.com
Verified Purchase
These glue sticks are fine if you stick together plain paper (no crayon!) and never expect to touch it again. Otherwise, go with something else.
Trying to glue to crayon-colored surface is a complete waste of time.
Be prepared to hurry- the glue dries incredibly fast.
Don't touch the project again. Otherwise, go with something else.
Trying to glue to crayon-colored surface is a complete waste of time.
Be prepared to hurry- the glue dries incredibly fast.
Don't touch the project again- otherwise, the glue releases and becomes 'unglued'.
I can't really think of an application this glue would be useful for, unless you have a preschooler and they want to glue a bunch of scratch paper that you'll throw away. It certainly doesn't meet my standard for actual projects for the kids, and doesn't hold up to the low expectations of our homeschool projects either. Example: I made 1's/10's/100's squares for my daughter. I glued plain white printer paper to cardboard. Almost immediately, the paper separated from the cardboard and defeated the purpose. Ditto on a money game I created. This stuff just doesn't stick at all.
12 of 13 people found the following review helpful
HASH(0x8892b894) out of 5 stars not recommended 25 Aug. 2010
By Dustin - Published on Amazon.com
Clumps of glue will not turn clear, dries ENTIRELY too quickly, warps the paper, doesn't adhere even the thinnest of paper properly resulting in you having to re-glue the entire project. This glue fails in every possible way it could.
6 of 6 people found the following review helpful
HASH(0x88a27f78) out of 5 stars Shouldn't be called glue 24 Sept. 2011
By Teresha L. Taylor - Published on Amazon.com
I used this product to make a poster for my daughter for her "star student" day and after having to glue things over and over again, in less than 24 hours, every single thing I had glued had either lifted or come off entirely. This shouldn't even be called glue. I cannot believe it. They must have changed the formula because this does NOT WORK! If you are looking for glue sticks that actually glue things, go to Office Depot! If I could give this a zero star rating, I would have.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Elmers-D...
Ive yet to have a problem with the "big" purple glue sticks. Just used a fresh pack a few weeks ago on some SNES games worked perfect. But I do vaguley remember my girlfriend picking me up a pack of the small sticks once and they didnt hold right. The stick was a paler shade of purple so maybe they have bad batches from time to time nut overall I wont use anything else, especially not super glue thats just asking for trouble
I think Elmer's Glue All have a different formula than Elmer's School Glue, dispite both being white goop with no discernable difference in odor. The clear glue sticks are probably no different. I don't think they're designed for anything but paper to paper. And the magazine print was too slick to hold.
I don't think the reviewers were lying. My mom had some "purple" glue sticks and they won't even stick glossy magazine print together. Maybe the "school glue" uses inferior, possibly starch based adhesive because it's non-toxic, and for real serious uses shouldn't have the "school" prefix on it. My mom bought it. That should say something. It may have been a few years old too. I have no idea what the shelf life is. All I know is I tried some "purple" glue sticks and they absolutely did not work.
Were they provided by the school/school supplier? They might get some bulk discount stuff which is lower quality. The one I have right now is "Elmer's Washable SchoolGlue Stick Disappearing Purple" and its all Ive ever used doing Repros and never had one lift. I get them from Wal Mart they come in a 3 pack
Cliffhanger, Pro Sport Hockey and Wayne's World are pretty terrible too in my experience. For me, Wurm peeled up at the bottom. Guessing it lifted and then got caught on the dust sleeve at some point. I've since replaced it with a pretty nice one.
Ugh, Cliffhanger is the worst offender! My Pro Sport Hockey is alright though, I didn't know these were problematic. I don't have Wayne's World but I've seen a few bad labels on this one. Other problematic ones are Dragon Fighter, Cowboy Kid and the A<<laim and LJN later releases. I've never seen a Thrilla with a good label
Its even highly possible to have a CIB sealed Wario's Woods with the label peeling inside the box lol
I bought a sealed Wario's Woods recently. After reading this thread, probably gonna keep it that way!
I also have a player's copy with label in great shape too.
I'd assume it's possible depending on how/where the previous owner stored it. You'd never know unless you popped it open...and I sure as hell wouldn't if I had sealed copies!
Originally posted by: NostalgicMachine
Wasn't someone saying in a past thread that they did use cheaper manufacturing w labels toward the end?
A number of late release games for NES suffer from this. It isn't an isolated incident. Has to be a change in label or adhesive quality toward the end of the NES run.
Also, if you're into unlicensed, AVE labels are the worst of the bunch
This! Find one Maxi-15, anywhere, that the foil end label hasn't curled up. I left mine as is. Adds character.
For the record, even modern homebrew is not immune. Those sweet see-through labels on Xmas 2013 also did this, although I cured mine with a tiny speck of cyano-acrylate under the seam. No one will ever know...
Its even highly possible to have a CIB sealed Wario's Woods with the label peeling inside the box lol
I bought a sealed Wario's Woods recently. After reading this thread, probably gonna keep it that way!
I also have a player's copy with label in great shape too.
I'd assume it's possible depending on how/where the previous owner stored it. You'd never know unless you popped it open...and I sure as hell wouldn't if I had sealed copies!
Humidity might play a big factor. In Louisiana, it rarely drops below 70%.
Originally posted by: Space Jockey
Originally posted by: NostalgicMachine
Wasn't someone saying in a past thread that they did use cheaper manufacturing w labels toward the end?
A number of late release games for NES suffer from this. It isn't an isolated incident. Has to be a change in label or adhesive quality toward the end of the NES run.
That's what I thought!
Originally posted by: NostalgicMachine
Originally posted by: Space Jockey
Originally posted by: NostalgicMachine
Wasn't someone saying in a past thread that they did use cheaper manufacturing w labels toward the end?
A number of late release games for NES suffer from this. It isn't an isolated incident. Has to be a change in label or adhesive quality toward the end of the NES run.
That's what I thought!
But wouldn't a change in adhesive formulation also have impacted SNES titles? I have a couple ealier NES games suffering from label popup, yet none of my SNES or Genesis games are affected. And my own loose player's copy of Wario's Woods (not the sealed collectard one I bought) has a pristine minty label with no evidence of lifting.
Mainly just a handfull of homebrew / repros that used too thick laminated labels popped up. And foil backed Maxi-15 and Friday the 13th for some reason. Just saying, if they changed the formulation of NES labels, a similar thing would have happened on SNES since both were in production in the early 90s.
And yes, I'm aware the Made in Mexico SNES/N64 games are not glossy like the Made in Japan ones, and much more succeptible to damage, especially from resale stickers haphazardly placed by ignorant game store employees. However neither seem to pull up much. They more likely to surface rip than to peel.