This sucks. I have Amazon on auto-notify, but if I'm not online the exact moment I recieve the email, I may get boned.
I would also recommend anyone considering importing the UK version exercise extreme caution. We have no way of knowing yet whether the UK boxes are 60Hz enabled or have censored games, ie "Shadow Warriors" in place of Ninja Gaiden or "Probotector 2" instead of Super C.
Nintendo have crapped on PAL gamers in the past with Wii VC so it wouldn't be unprecidented. Importing from USA to UK/EU would be a safer bet but shipping costs and the high USD would negate any price benefit, to say nothing of scalpers.
Just wait until all those people who DO get one are looking for the rest of the games they want.
I think most of them will look at where the price of entry is now and not bother.
Buying a few video games isn't that expensive.
Then it wouldn't have much of an impact on the hobby.
Once they've plunked down $60 for a Classic Mini, they'd have to plunk down another $60 to get a working original NES (I suppose they could go clone, but that won't matter much.) If they only buy a few games, and probably cheapos like Bases Loaded, I don't see that doing anything to prices. Most would probably balk at plunking down $35 for Contra.
The point is... the games aren't that expensive now, so buying Contra for $35 isn't that big of a deal.
People will be like "oh, that's how much Contra is? Okay..." It's not going to take a huge demand to increase prices.
Wouldn't it be funny if this thing outsells the Wii U. lol
It wouldn't surprise me any.
In terms of units sold, I'm sure it will. As for Nintendo revenue, maybe not.
If the NES Classic Mini outsells the Wii-U by a wide margin, I guarantee it will be getting an SNES sequel.
Unless Nintendo is only releasing this as a stop gap measure to increase revenue before NX drops, but I don't think they're that dumb. Nintendo has a cash cow on it's hands and they will milk it for all it is worth!
Does it have a real cart slot? And I wonder how they pulled off the rights issues.
No. There is no cart slot. All games are built into the system. Nintendo is the one that made this so they have all the rights to the games.
It doesn't quite work like that. Capcom / Konami / Tecmo / everyone else is getting their cut. Licensing had to be negotiated for each title that Nintendo didn't own.
Does it have a real cart slot? And I wonder how they pulled off the rights issues.
No. There is no cart slot. All games are built into the system. Nintendo is the one that made this so they have all the rights to the games.
It doesn't quite work like that. Capcom / Konami / Tecmo / everyone else is getting their cut. Licensing had to be negotiated for each title that Nintendo didn't own.
This sucks. I have Amazon on auto-notify, but if I'm not online the exact moment I recieve the email, I may get boned.
I would also recommend anyone considering importing the UK version exercise extreme caution. We have no way of knowing yet whether the UK boxes are 60Hz enabled or have censored games, ie "Shadow Warriors" in place of Ninja Gaiden or "Probotector 2" instead of Super C.
Nintendo have crapped on PAL gamers in the past with Wii VC so it wouldn't be unprecidented. Importing from USA to UK/EU would be a safer bet but shipping costs and the high USD would negate any price benefit, to say nothing of scalpers.
Apart from the titles, are there any other differences, i.e. Ninja Gaiden vs Shadow Warriors?
The point is... the games aren't that expensive now, so buying Contra for $35 isn't that big of a deal.
People will be like "oh, that's how much Contra is? Okay..." It's not going to take a huge demand to increase prices.
Really? Most people I talk to that aren't already in the hobby are shocked any NES game is over $5, let alone $35. I've never heard them say "oh, that's how much Contra is? Okay..." but I have heard more than once "CONTRA IS $35!?!?! FUCK THAT!!!" The games are pushing 30 years old. No one I know wants to pay typical "new game on Steam" prices, especially if they see on VC that they're going for like $5 and the NES Classic Mini has them for the equivalent of $2 each. Especially since the lineup has most games people like. Again, they'd most likely have to buy an NES console to play them on, and that $35 Contra is now $95. People are nostalgic, but most aren't THAT nostalgic.
And no, most of the newbies are not going to care about the cartridges or "building a collection" the way we are. Otherwise they'd just buy an NES, not this thing. So no, I don't see this causing a massive influx.
The point is... the games aren't that expensive now, so buying Contra for $35 isn't that big of a deal.
People will be like "oh, that's how much Contra is? Okay..." It's not going to take a huge demand to increase prices.
Really? Most people I talk to that aren't already in the hobby are shocked any NES game is over $5, let alone $35. I've never heard them say "oh, that's how much Contra is? Okay..." but I have heard more than once "CONTRA IS $35!?!?! FUCK THAT!!!" The games are pushing 30 years old. No one I know wants to pay typical "new game on Steam" prices, especially if they see on VC that they're going for like $5 and the NES Classic Mini has them for the equivalent of $2 each. Especially since the lineup has most games people like. Again, they'd most likely have to buy an NES console to play them on, and that $35 Contra is now $95. People are nostalgic, but most aren't THAT nostalgic.
And no, most of the newbies are not going to care about the cartridges or "building a collection" the way we are. Otherwise they'd just buy an NES, not this thing. So no, I don't see this causing a massive influx.
I understand what you're saying.
I know not every single person who buys this is going to want an Original Nintendo. I wouldn't want to venture a guess as to how many would. Even if a small percentage of them do it will affect prices and demand.
There's already very few games out there and things are crazy. My point is that it won't take a "massive influx" to affect prices/demand.
Sure, new games and "honey holes" might be discovered, but I don't think games are priced so high that it's a barrier to entry. We're talking about grown adults. If they want some games and an NES, paying a few hundred dollars isn't a big deal.
So, they'll buy the games that are available.
This isn't going to decrease interest, that's for sure.
Apart from the titles, are there any other differences, i.e. Ninja Gaiden vs Shadow Warriors?
Probotector 1 and 2 changed all the Contra/Super C sprites from humans to robots. As near as I can tell, NG and SW are the same game aside from the title screen. Even the cut scenes seem to be intact, although I haven't compared every single one.
Sure, new games and "honey holes" might be discovered, but I don't think games are priced so high that it's a barrier to entry. We're talking about grown adults. If they want some games and an NES, paying a few hundred dollars isn't a big deal.
We'll have to agree to disagree and see what happens. A few hundred dollars is getting into brand new current gen console territory. Especially since, as often pointed out by our resident "sunshine and puppies" pegboy, if you just want to play the games there are cheaper alternatives. Plus, how many games are casuals truly nostalgic for? Most are on that console.
And honestly, what if it gets people to check their attics and crawlspaces for their old games and put them on ebay for cash? If it scares up those ten or so remaining gold NWCs or a few more DuckTales 2s to come into market, I can't see that being bad. Better than letting them rot.
Sure, new games and "honey holes" might be discovered, but I don't think games are priced so high that it's a barrier to entry. We're talking about grown adults. If they want some games and an NES, paying a few hundred dollars isn't a big deal.
We'll have to agree to disagree and see what happens. A few hundred dollars is getting into brand new current gen console territory. Especially since, as often pointed out by our resident "sunshine and puppies" pegboy, if you just want to play the games there are cheaper alternatives.
I understand what you're saying. The difference is, the people buying the NES bundles and more Mega Man games don't want current gen systems.
The idea is, they'll play the 30 games and be like "well, now I want the real thing".
There are cheaper alternatives and there have been for almost 15 years. But, the easiest thing and original expereince is with an original system.
No emulators, the original system. And the new people getting back into the NES won't be running out and buying Everdrives. They'll just get the games they want.
I don't think this is going to increase the number of "complete" collectors... but I can easily see this affecting all the dank titles, especially those associated with the 30 games coming out with the NES Classic.
The idea is, they'll play the 30 games and be like "well, now I want the real thing".
There are cheaper alternatives and there have been for almost 15 years. But, the easiest thing and original expereince is with an original system.
I just don't see that, especially since most people don't have the CRT anymore or really an HDTV with composite inputs (they now combine them into the component input, but most people aren't aware of that.)
So now people have to get a heavy, ugly CRT? On top of the games and the original NES?
It's looking more unlikely the more I think about it.
The idea is, they'll play the 30 games and be like "well, now I want the real thing".
There are cheaper alternatives and there have been for almost 15 years. But, the easiest thing and original expereince is with an original system.
I just don't see that, especially since most people don't have the CRT anymore or really an HDTV with composite inputs (they now combine them into the component input, but most people aren't aware of that.)
So now people have to get a heavy, ugly CRT? On top of the games and the original NES?
It's looking more unlikely the more I think about it.
My NES is fine on my big screen. I'm pretty picky, too.
This thing is getting main stream media attention, already sold out the presales, and people who haven't been into gaming in years are talking about it.
You're right... I don't think it'll affect demand.
My NES is fine on my big screen. I'm pretty picky, too.
Are you using the yellow composite inputs? Because most TVs now don't have those inputs anymore.
The thing about the Mini is it works with HDMI, so any new TV can use it. My new LCD doesn't have obvious composite, and I doubt most people will even look in the manual to see how to get around that.
And yes, the Mini is getting hyped, because it's a cheap, easy way to play NES games. But I still think it's a leap to go to full NES mode. Sure, some people might get into it. But that has happened with just about anything.
My NES is fine on my big screen. I'm pretty picky, too.
Are you using the yellow composite inputs? Because most TVs now don't have those inputs anymore.
The thing about the Mini is it works with HDMI, so any new TV can use it. My new LCD doesn't have obvious composite, and I doubt most people will even look in the manual to see how to get around that.
And yes, the Mini is getting hyped, because it's a cheap, easy way to play NES games. But I still think it's a leap to go to full NES mode. Sure, some people might get into it. But that has happened with just about anything.
I guess we'll have to see
Just regular old A/V cables. The TV has "Component / AV" input ....
Exactly... some people will get back into it, that's what I'm saying. It's bringing lots of momentum, and some people might be like "Oh... there's other games I remember that aren't included. I might go to a used game shop and buy them."
Does it have a real cart slot? And I wonder how they pulled off the rights issues.
No. There is no cart slot. All games are built into the system. Nintendo is the one that made this so they have all the rights to the games.
It doesn't quite work like that. Capcom / Konami / Tecmo / everyone else is getting their cut. Licensing had to be negotiated for each title that Nintendo didn't own.
To be honest, all of those titles are currently available on Virtual Console service on Wii-U and/or 3DS eShop, so any licensing requirements have already been satisfied.
This sucks. I have Amazon on auto-notify, but if I'm not online the exact moment I recieve the email, I may get boned.
I would also recommend anyone considering importing the UK version exercise extreme caution. We have no way of knowing yet whether the UK boxes are 60Hz enabled or have censored games, ie "Shadow Warriors" in place of Ninja Gaiden or "Probotector 2" instead of Super C.
Nintendo have crapped on PAL gamers in the past with Wii VC so it wouldn't be unprecidented. Importing from USA to UK/EU would be a safer bet but shipping costs and the high USD would negate any price benefit, to say nothing of scalpers.
Apart from the titles, are there any other differences, i.e. Ninja Gaiden vs Shadow Warriors?
The differences are mostly cosmetic, but the graphics in Probotector II (Super C) were heavily altered. Most human combatants within the game were changed to robots, courtesy of NOE policy at the time:
I couldn't find much information about Shadow Warriors (Ninja Gaiden) besides the name change so idk if the game plays the same or if there were heavy sprite alterations.
My NES is fine on my big screen. I'm pretty picky, too.
Are you using the yellow composite inputs? Because most TVs now don't have those inputs anymore.
The thing about the Mini is it works with HDMI, so any new TV can use it. My new LCD doesn't have obvious composite, and I doubt most people will even look in the manual to see how to get around that.
And yes, the Mini is getting hyped, because it's a cheap, easy way to play NES games. But I still think it's a leap to go to full NES mode. Sure, some people might get into it. But that has happened with just about anything.
I guess we'll have to see
Just regular old A/V cables. The TV has "Component / AV" input ....
Exactly... some people will get back into it, that's what I'm saying. It's bringing lots of momentum, and some people might be like "Oh... there's other games I remember that aren't included. I might go to a used game shop and buy them."
But yeah... we'll see.
You plug the yellow composite cable into the green component jack and leave the red and blue components disconnected. Then you take the red/white cable and plug those into the audio in connectors. Many TVs also support dual mono if you plug only the white jack and leave the red disconnected. If people would bother to read the user manual instead of scratching their heads because there's no yellow jack on the back. It's also usually spelled out "COMPOSITE" in plain english on the back panel of the HDTV with a little arrow pointing towards the green jack. Some HDTV's inputs also use two-toned green/yellow jacks to futher reduce confusion.
Does it have a real cart slot? And I wonder how they pulled off the rights issues.
No. There is no cart slot. All games are built into the system. Nintendo is the one that made this so they have all the rights to the games.
It doesn't quite work like that. Capcom / Konami / Tecmo / everyone else is getting their cut. Licensing had to be negotiated for each title that Nintendo didn't own.
To be honest, all of those titles are currently available on Virtual Console service on Wii-U and/or 3DS eShop, so any licensing requirements have already been satisfied.
They were getting a cut of $5 per-sale before. It's unlikely the same terms carried over to this.
Yeah, pretty sure the avenue to get the licenses is there because of virtual console, but Nintendo can't just go, "Hey, Konami, et. al, we're doing this whole new plug n play thing using your IPs. Hope you don't mind we're keeping the profits."
Does it have a real cart slot? And I wonder how they pulled off the rights issues.
No. There is no cart slot. All games are built into the system. Nintendo is the one that made this so they have all the rights to the games.
It doesn't quite work like that. Capcom / Konami / Tecmo / everyone else is getting their cut. Licensing had to be negotiated for each title that Nintendo didn't own.
To be honest, all of those titles are currently available on Virtual Console service on Wii-U and/or 3DS eShop, so any licensing requirements have already been satisfied.
They were getting a cut of $5 per-sale before. It's unlikely the same terms carried over to this.
I seriously doubt that Konami was getting a $5 cut from every $5 VC purchase in the eShop. That would imply that Nintendo was actually losing money after fees and any promotional discounts. TMNT was $6 while it was available for Wii (and IIRC the only non-import NES title at a $6 price point), likely due to added licensing cost.
So $1 is probably closer to the actual figure, if that.
Does it have a real cart slot? And I wonder how they pulled off the rights issues.
No. There is no cart slot. All games are built into the system. Nintendo is the one that made this so they have all the rights to the games.
It doesn't quite work like that. Capcom / Konami / Tecmo / everyone else is getting their cut. Licensing had to be negotiated for each title that Nintendo didn't own.
To be honest, all of those titles are currently available on Virtual Console service on Wii-U and/or 3DS eShop, so any licensing requirements have already been satisfied.
They were getting a cut of $5 per-sale before. It's unlikely the same terms carried over to this.
I seriously doubt that Konami was getting a $5 cut from every $5 VC purchase in the eShop. That would imply that Nintendo was actually losing money after fees and any promotional discounts. TMNT was $6 while it was available for Wii (and IIRC the only non-import NES title at a $6 price point), likely due to added licensing cost.
So $1 is probably closer to the actual figure, if that.
Nintendo: it is a step in the right direction , but can you please release a mini SNES classic edition with super Mario world, super Mario kart, super Mario all stars, super Mario rpg, earthbound, chrono trigger, DKC 1-3 (don't care what else you put on it, as long as those are included) for $59.99 ?? preferably the SNS-001 model mini , not a fan of SNS-101
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I would also recommend anyone considering importing the UK version exercise extreme caution. We have no way of knowing yet whether the UK boxes are 60Hz enabled or have censored games, ie "Shadow Warriors" in place of Ninja Gaiden or "Probotector 2" instead of Super C.
Nintendo have crapped on PAL gamers in the past with Wii VC so it wouldn't be unprecidented. Importing from USA to UK/EU would be a safer bet but shipping costs and the high USD would negate any price benefit, to say nothing of scalpers.
Does it have a real cart slot? And I wonder how they pulled off the rights issues.
No. There is no cart slot. All games are built into the system. Nintendo is the one that made this so they have all the rights to the games.
Wouldn't it be funny if this thing outsells the Wii U. lol
It wouldn't surprise me any.
Just wait until all those people who DO get one are looking for the rest of the games they want.
I think most of them will look at where the price of entry is now and not bother.
Buying a few video games isn't that expensive.
Then it wouldn't have much of an impact on the hobby.
Once they've plunked down $60 for a Classic Mini, they'd have to plunk down another $60 to get a working original NES (I suppose they could go clone, but that won't matter much.) If they only buy a few games, and probably cheapos like Bases Loaded, I don't see that doing anything to prices. Most would probably balk at plunking down $35 for Contra.
The point is... the games aren't that expensive now, so buying Contra for $35 isn't that big of a deal.
People will be like "oh, that's how much Contra is? Okay..." It's not going to take a huge demand to increase prices.
Wouldn't it be funny if this thing outsells the Wii U. lol
It wouldn't surprise me any.
In terms of units sold, I'm sure it will. As for Nintendo revenue, maybe not.
Wouldn't it be funny if this thing outsells the Wii U. lol
It wouldn't surprise me any.
In terms of units sold, I'm sure it will. As for Nintendo revenue, maybe not.
If the NES Classic Mini outsells the Wii-U by a wide margin, I guarantee it will be getting an SNES sequel.
Unless Nintendo is only releasing this as a stop gap measure to increase revenue before NX drops, but I don't think they're that dumb. Nintendo has a cash cow on it's hands and they will milk it for all it is worth!
Does it have a real cart slot? And I wonder how they pulled off the rights issues.
No. There is no cart slot. All games are built into the system. Nintendo is the one that made this so they have all the rights to the games.
It doesn't quite work like that. Capcom / Konami / Tecmo / everyone else is getting their cut. Licensing had to be negotiated for each title that Nintendo didn't own.
Does it have a real cart slot? And I wonder how they pulled off the rights issues.
No. There is no cart slot. All games are built into the system. Nintendo is the one that made this so they have all the rights to the games.
It doesn't quite work like that. Capcom / Konami / Tecmo / everyone else is getting their cut. Licensing had to be negotiated for each title that Nintendo didn't own.
I already know that, lol.
This sucks. I have Amazon on auto-notify, but if I'm not online the exact moment I recieve the email, I may get boned.
I would also recommend anyone considering importing the UK version exercise extreme caution. We have no way of knowing yet whether the UK boxes are 60Hz enabled or have censored games, ie "Shadow Warriors" in place of Ninja Gaiden or "Probotector 2" instead of Super C.
Nintendo have crapped on PAL gamers in the past with Wii VC so it wouldn't be unprecidented. Importing from USA to UK/EU would be a safer bet but shipping costs and the high USD would negate any price benefit, to say nothing of scalpers.
Apart from the titles, are there any other differences, i.e. Ninja Gaiden vs Shadow Warriors?
The point is... the games aren't that expensive now, so buying Contra for $35 isn't that big of a deal.
People will be like "oh, that's how much Contra is? Okay..." It's not going to take a huge demand to increase prices.
Really? Most people I talk to that aren't already in the hobby are shocked any NES game is over $5, let alone $35. I've never heard them say "oh, that's how much Contra is? Okay..." but I have heard more than once "CONTRA IS $35!?!?! FUCK THAT!!!" The games are pushing 30 years old. No one I know wants to pay typical "new game on Steam" prices, especially if they see on VC that they're going for like $5 and the NES Classic Mini has them for the equivalent of $2 each. Especially since the lineup has most games people like. Again, they'd most likely have to buy an NES console to play them on, and that $35 Contra is now $95. People are nostalgic, but most aren't THAT nostalgic.
And no, most of the newbies are not going to care about the cartridges or "building a collection" the way we are. Otherwise they'd just buy an NES, not this thing. So no, I don't see this causing a massive influx.
The point is... the games aren't that expensive now, so buying Contra for $35 isn't that big of a deal.
People will be like "oh, that's how much Contra is? Okay..." It's not going to take a huge demand to increase prices.
Really? Most people I talk to that aren't already in the hobby are shocked any NES game is over $5, let alone $35. I've never heard them say "oh, that's how much Contra is? Okay..." but I have heard more than once "CONTRA IS $35!?!?! FUCK THAT!!!" The games are pushing 30 years old. No one I know wants to pay typical "new game on Steam" prices, especially if they see on VC that they're going for like $5 and the NES Classic Mini has them for the equivalent of $2 each. Especially since the lineup has most games people like. Again, they'd most likely have to buy an NES console to play them on, and that $35 Contra is now $95. People are nostalgic, but most aren't THAT nostalgic.
And no, most of the newbies are not going to care about the cartridges or "building a collection" the way we are. Otherwise they'd just buy an NES, not this thing. So no, I don't see this causing a massive influx.
I understand what you're saying.
I know not every single person who buys this is going to want an Original Nintendo. I wouldn't want to venture a guess as to how many would. Even if a small percentage of them do it will affect prices and demand.
There's already very few games out there and things are crazy. My point is that it won't take a "massive influx" to affect prices/demand.
Sure, new games and "honey holes" might be discovered, but I don't think games are priced so high that it's a barrier to entry. We're talking about grown adults. If they want some games and an NES, paying a few hundred dollars isn't a big deal.
So, they'll buy the games that are available.
This isn't going to decrease interest, that's for sure.
Apart from the titles, are there any other differences, i.e. Ninja Gaiden vs Shadow Warriors?
Probotector 1 and 2 changed all the Contra/Super C sprites from humans to robots. As near as I can tell, NG and SW are the same game aside from the title screen. Even the cut scenes seem to be intact, although I haven't compared every single one.
Sure, new games and "honey holes" might be discovered, but I don't think games are priced so high that it's a barrier to entry. We're talking about grown adults. If they want some games and an NES, paying a few hundred dollars isn't a big deal.
We'll have to agree to disagree and see what happens. A few hundred dollars is getting into brand new current gen console territory. Especially since, as often pointed out by our resident "sunshine and puppies" pegboy, if you just want to play the games there are cheaper alternatives. Plus, how many games are casuals truly nostalgic for? Most are on that console.
And honestly, what if it gets people to check their attics and crawlspaces for their old games and put them on ebay for cash? If it scares up those ten or so remaining gold NWCs or a few more DuckTales 2s to come into market, I can't see that being bad. Better than letting them rot.
Sure, new games and "honey holes" might be discovered, but I don't think games are priced so high that it's a barrier to entry. We're talking about grown adults. If they want some games and an NES, paying a few hundred dollars isn't a big deal.
We'll have to agree to disagree and see what happens. A few hundred dollars is getting into brand new current gen console territory. Especially since, as often pointed out by our resident "sunshine and puppies" pegboy, if you just want to play the games there are cheaper alternatives.
I understand what you're saying. The difference is, the people buying the NES bundles and more Mega Man games don't want current gen systems.
The idea is, they'll play the 30 games and be like "well, now I want the real thing".
There are cheaper alternatives and there have been for almost 15 years. But, the easiest thing and original expereince is with an original system.
No emulators, the original system. And the new people getting back into the NES won't be running out and buying Everdrives. They'll just get the games they want.
I don't think this is going to increase the number of "complete" collectors... but I can easily see this affecting all the dank titles, especially those associated with the 30 games coming out with the NES Classic.
The idea is, they'll play the 30 games and be like "well, now I want the real thing".
There are cheaper alternatives and there have been for almost 15 years. But, the easiest thing and original expereince is with an original system.
I just don't see that, especially since most people don't have the CRT anymore or really an HDTV with composite inputs (they now combine them into the component input, but most people aren't aware of that.)
So now people have to get a heavy, ugly CRT? On top of the games and the original NES?
It's looking more unlikely the more I think about it.
The idea is, they'll play the 30 games and be like "well, now I want the real thing".
There are cheaper alternatives and there have been for almost 15 years. But, the easiest thing and original expereince is with an original system.
I just don't see that, especially since most people don't have the CRT anymore or really an HDTV with composite inputs (they now combine them into the component input, but most people aren't aware of that.)
So now people have to get a heavy, ugly CRT? On top of the games and the original NES?
It's looking more unlikely the more I think about it.
My NES is fine on my big screen. I'm pretty picky, too.
This thing is getting main stream media attention, already sold out the presales, and people who haven't been into gaming in years are talking about it.
You're right... I don't think it'll affect demand.
My NES is fine on my big screen. I'm pretty picky, too.
Are you using the yellow composite inputs? Because most TVs now don't have those inputs anymore.
The thing about the Mini is it works with HDMI, so any new TV can use it. My new LCD doesn't have obvious composite, and I doubt most people will even look in the manual to see how to get around that.
And yes, the Mini is getting hyped, because it's a cheap, easy way to play NES games. But I still think it's a leap to go to full NES mode. Sure, some people might get into it. But that has happened with just about anything.
I guess we'll have to see.
My NES is fine on my big screen. I'm pretty picky, too.
Are you using the yellow composite inputs? Because most TVs now don't have those inputs anymore.
The thing about the Mini is it works with HDMI, so any new TV can use it. My new LCD doesn't have obvious composite, and I doubt most people will even look in the manual to see how to get around that.
And yes, the Mini is getting hyped, because it's a cheap, easy way to play NES games. But I still think it's a leap to go to full NES mode. Sure, some people might get into it. But that has happened with just about anything.
I guess we'll have to see
Just regular old A/V cables. The TV has "Component / AV" input ....
Exactly... some people will get back into it, that's what I'm saying. It's bringing lots of momentum, and some people might be like "Oh... there's other games I remember that aren't included. I might go to a used game shop and buy them."
But yeah... we'll see.
Does it have a real cart slot? And I wonder how they pulled off the rights issues.
No. There is no cart slot. All games are built into the system. Nintendo is the one that made this so they have all the rights to the games.
It doesn't quite work like that. Capcom / Konami / Tecmo / everyone else is getting their cut. Licensing had to be negotiated for each title that Nintendo didn't own.
To be honest, all of those titles are currently available on Virtual Console service on Wii-U and/or 3DS eShop, so any licensing requirements have already been satisfied.
This sucks. I have Amazon on auto-notify, but if I'm not online the exact moment I recieve the email, I may get boned.
I would also recommend anyone considering importing the UK version exercise extreme caution. We have no way of knowing yet whether the UK boxes are 60Hz enabled or have censored games, ie "Shadow Warriors" in place of Ninja Gaiden or "Probotector 2" instead of Super C.
Nintendo have crapped on PAL gamers in the past with Wii VC so it wouldn't be unprecidented. Importing from USA to UK/EU would be a safer bet but shipping costs and the high USD would negate any price benefit, to say nothing of scalpers.
Apart from the titles, are there any other differences, i.e. Ninja Gaiden vs Shadow Warriors?
The differences are mostly cosmetic, but the graphics in Probotector II (Super C) were heavily altered. Most human combatants within the game were changed to robots, courtesy of NOE policy at the time:
http://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=658380
I couldn't find much information about Shadow Warriors (Ninja Gaiden) besides the name change so idk if the game plays the same or if there were heavy sprite alterations.
My NES is fine on my big screen. I'm pretty picky, too.
Are you using the yellow composite inputs? Because most TVs now don't have those inputs anymore.
The thing about the Mini is it works with HDMI, so any new TV can use it. My new LCD doesn't have obvious composite, and I doubt most people will even look in the manual to see how to get around that.
And yes, the Mini is getting hyped, because it's a cheap, easy way to play NES games. But I still think it's a leap to go to full NES mode. Sure, some people might get into it. But that has happened with just about anything.
I guess we'll have to see
Just regular old A/V cables. The TV has "Component / AV" input ....
Exactly... some people will get back into it, that's what I'm saying. It's bringing lots of momentum, and some people might be like "Oh... there's other games I remember that aren't included. I might go to a used game shop and buy them."
But yeah... we'll see.
You plug the yellow composite cable into the green component jack and leave the red and blue components disconnected. Then you take the red/white cable and plug those into the audio in connectors. Many TVs also support dual mono if you plug only the white jack and leave the red disconnected. If people would bother to read the user manual instead of scratching their heads because there's no yellow jack on the back. It's also usually spelled out "COMPOSITE" in plain english on the back panel of the HDTV with a little arrow pointing towards the green jack. Some HDTV's inputs also use two-toned green/yellow jacks to futher reduce confusion.
Does it have a real cart slot? And I wonder how they pulled off the rights issues.
No. There is no cart slot. All games are built into the system. Nintendo is the one that made this so they have all the rights to the games.
It doesn't quite work like that. Capcom / Konami / Tecmo / everyone else is getting their cut. Licensing had to be negotiated for each title that Nintendo didn't own.
To be honest, all of those titles are currently available on Virtual Console service on Wii-U and/or 3DS eShop, so any licensing requirements have already been satisfied.
They were getting a cut of $5 per-sale before. It's unlikely the same terms carried over to this.
Does it have a real cart slot? And I wonder how they pulled off the rights issues.
No. There is no cart slot. All games are built into the system. Nintendo is the one that made this so they have all the rights to the games.
It doesn't quite work like that. Capcom / Konami / Tecmo / everyone else is getting their cut. Licensing had to be negotiated for each title that Nintendo didn't own.
To be honest, all of those titles are currently available on Virtual Console service on Wii-U and/or 3DS eShop, so any licensing requirements have already been satisfied.
They were getting a cut of $5 per-sale before. It's unlikely the same terms carried over to this.
I seriously doubt that Konami was getting a $5 cut from every $5 VC purchase in the eShop. That would imply that Nintendo was actually losing money after fees and any promotional discounts. TMNT was $6 while it was available for Wii (and IIRC the only non-import NES title at a $6 price point), likely due to added licensing cost.
So $1 is probably closer to the actual figure, if that.
Does it have a real cart slot? And I wonder how they pulled off the rights issues.
No. There is no cart slot. All games are built into the system. Nintendo is the one that made this so they have all the rights to the games.
It doesn't quite work like that. Capcom / Konami / Tecmo / everyone else is getting their cut. Licensing had to be negotiated for each title that Nintendo didn't own.
To be honest, all of those titles are currently available on Virtual Console service on Wii-U and/or 3DS eShop, so any licensing requirements have already been satisfied.
They were getting a cut of $5 per-sale before. It's unlikely the same terms carried over to this.
I seriously doubt that Konami was getting a $5 cut from every $5 VC purchase in the eShop. That would imply that Nintendo was actually losing money after fees and any promotional discounts. TMNT was $6 while it was available for Wii (and IIRC the only non-import NES title at a $6 price point), likely due to added licensing cost.
So $1 is probably closer to the actual figure, if that.
Looks like I need to clarify:
By "cut of," I mean "portion of."
They got their piece out of $5 for each sale.