NintendoAge 2016 Weekly Contests Presents: Lunar Pool

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  • I did a trial run a bit ago and scored 970. Looking like a participation week!  
  • Originally posted by: arnpoly



    I did a trial run a bit ago and scored 970. Looking like a participation week!  





    Lunar Pool is definitely not my kind of game. Looking forward to a return to mindlessness with Pinball.
  • The next sports game on deck is Danny Sullivan's Indy Heat. According to Gamefaqs this game is easy, and the 14th easiest racer on the NES. Additional humiliation for anyone who fails at it. It also looks to be the most fun sports title since Rad Racer, not that that's saying much.



    http://www.gamefaqs.com/nes/587357-danny-sullivans-indy-heat
  • I guess I am the only one excited about this week's contest game.  
  • Originally posted by: Bea_Iank



    I guess I am the only one excited about this week's contest game.  



    I'd be excited, too. It's one of my favorite childhood games, but I haven't had the time to put in runs for the weekly contests recently. 

     
  • Originally posted by: Bea_Iank



    I guess I am the only one excited about this week's contest game.  



    I prefer it to the last two sports games we played: Black Box Baseball and Golf.



    Not that that's saying much.



     
  • 10,690

    7,810



    I'll bet Richardhead would be so proud I've managed to eek by his pal SuperJimtendo by the smallest of margins with this score.

    Hope you're doing ok out there Space Cowboy... wherever you are.



  • Originally posted by: Commander Santa



    7,810



    I like this game. It's relaxing after a long day.

    Bea's score is insane, though when she gets her claws into a game she can usually master it.

    Great score Bea.

     



    This game is like a mosquito bite. I can't stop scratching.





     
  • Originally posted by: Commander Santa



    7,810



    I like this game. It's relaxing after a long day.

    Bea's score is insane, though when she gets her claws into a game she can usually master it.

    Great score Bea.

     



    There is nothing much to master in this game, actually.

    Once you find out the proper angles for the shots, either by trial and error or by basic high school vector math, you can repeat your runs ad infinitum.

    The only problem is that it takes a long, long while to beat the 60 stages of the game.

    I will update my score tonight with 60 perfect games once I record the video, but it will be well over one hour long.  

     
  • There is some randomness with the break on the first stage. When breaking, if you hit the button when the power meter is full, there is like a 10% chance that you will sink one ball. Then it's possible to play a perfect game on the first stage. You can keep resetting until this happens. I did a perfect first stage once, but I haven't been able to do it since. I screwed it up anyway because because it all went to crap after that.
  • I like the game too, but I won't be sinking that much time into it unless I put Ikari Warriors to rest first.
  • Originally posted by: mbd39



    There is some randomness with the break on the first stage. When breaking, if you hit the button when the power meter is full, there is like a 10% chance that you will sink one ball. Then it's possible to play a perfect game on the first stage. You can keep resetting until this happens. I did a perfect first stage once, but I haven't been able to do it since. I screwed it up anyway because because it all went to crap after that.



    No, there is not.

    There is at least one angle where you are guaranteed to sink a ball, usually ball #4, iirc.

    I will post a screenshot tonight of the position for that.

     
  • Originally posted by: Bea_Iank

     
    Originally posted by: mbd39



    There is some randomness with the break on the first stage. When breaking, if you hit the button when the power meter is full, there is like a 10% chance that you will sink one ball. Then it's possible to play a perfect game on the first stage. You can keep resetting until this happens. I did a perfect first stage once, but I haven't been able to do it since. I screwed it up anyway because because it all went to crap after that.



    No, there is not.

    There is at least one angle where you are guaranteed to sink a ball, usually ball #4, iirc.

    I will post a screenshot tonight of the position for that.

     



    I'm using Nestopia emulator and I'm not always getting the same outcome when I do a straight break with a full power meter on the first stage after resetting. The usual outcome is the one with the six ball going near the pocket, but there are some others that occasionally happen.





    EDIT: Yeah, I just booted up Lunar Pool. The first time I breaked, the usual happened with the six ball landing  in front of the top center pocket. Then I did a hard reset, tried again, and this time the break resulted in the six ball being sunk into the bottom right pocket. All I did was hit the button after the power meter was full and touched nothing else.

     
  • Originally posted by: mbd39

     
    Originally posted by: Bea_Iank

     
    Originally posted by: mbd39



    There is some randomness with the break on the first stage. When breaking, if you hit the button when the power meter is full, there is like a 10% chance that you will sink one ball. Then it's possible to play a perfect game on the first stage. You can keep resetting until this happens. I did a perfect first stage once, but I haven't been able to do it since. I screwed it up anyway because because it all went to crap after that.



    No, there is not.

    There is at least one angle where you are guaranteed to sink a ball, usually ball #4, iirc.

    I will post a screenshot tonight of the position for that.

     



    I'm using Nestopia emulator and I'm not always getting the same outcome when I do a straight break with a full power meter on the first stage after resetting. The usual outcome is the one with the six ball going near the pocket, but there are some others that occasionally happen.





     



    There is your problem. Full straight break. It would depend on the length you pick for the cursor.

    If you break it at between 15 to 20 degrees with the cursor a bit past ball #3, one ball will always drop.

     
  • Originally posted by: Bea_Iank

     
    Originally posted by: mbd39

     
    Originally posted by: Bea_Iank

     
    Originally posted by: mbd39



    There is some randomness with the break on the first stage. When breaking, if you hit the button when the power meter is full, there is like a 10% chance that you will sink one ball. Then it's possible to play a perfect game on the first stage. You can keep resetting until this happens. I did a perfect first stage once, but I haven't been able to do it since. I screwed it up anyway because because it all went to crap after that.



    No, there is not.

    There is at least one angle where you are guaranteed to sink a ball, usually ball #4, iirc.

    I will post a screenshot tonight of the position for that.

     



    I'm using Nestopia emulator and I'm not always getting the same outcome when I do a straight break with a full power meter on the first stage after resetting. The usual outcome is the one with the six ball going near the pocket, but there are some others that occasionally happen.





     



    There is your problem. Full straight break. It would depend on the length you pick for the cursor.

    If you break it at between 15 to 20 degrees with the cursor a bit past ball #3, one ball will always drop.

     





    I'm not doing anything different each time besides just hitting the button when the power meter is full. I'm touching nothing else on the gamepad. I think there is some randomness in the break.



     
  • Try for yourself. Don't touch anything besides the A or B button and break when the power meter is full. Keep resetting and doing it, and you'll get different outcomes. Unless there is something wrong with my ROM or the computer or the emulator.
  • I will check that, but I can guarantee that with the angle and distance I am using to break, I always drop the same ball, whether I am running VirtuaNes or Fceux.

    And I have done that a few dozen times so far.
  • Originally posted by: Bea_Iank



    I will check that, but I can guarantee that with the angle and distance I am using to break, I always drop the same ball, whether I am running VirtuaNes or Fceux.

    And I have done that a few dozen times so far.





    The small amount of randomness might only occur with a straight down the middle break and not when breaking from an angle. I also don't change the distance.

     
  • This thread is too quiet without skinny and Richard



    Someone manufacture some controversy or smack
  • Okay, I figured out the magic distance and angle to sink the 4 ball every time on the first stage on the break.
  • Originally posted by: Brock Landers



    This thread is too quiet without skinny and Richard



    Someone manufacture some controversy or smack

    Like what ? I can only insult James so many times....



     
  • I got a perfect on stage 1, almost got a perfect on stage 2 but fucked up on the last ball, somehow got a perfect on stage 3, and made it to stage 7. I'm too lazy to figure out the exact angle and everything I need for each ball, so I try to wing it the best I can.
  • Originally posted by: mbd39

     
    Originally posted by: Bea_Iank



    I will check that, but I can guarantee that with the angle and distance I am using to break, I always drop the same ball, whether I am running VirtuaNes or Fceux.

    And I have done that a few dozen times so far.





    The small amount of randomness might only occur with a straight down the middle break and not when breaking from an angle. I also don't change the distance.

     

    From what I am seeing, it depends on the stage it gives you.

    If you start from a fresh boot, it will always behave the same way, but after you reset once, it changes the background scenario and starts the seed with a different value. But even then, the amount of starting seed values seem to be limited.

    There was about 10 different spreads after the break from my tests. I ran about 100 breaks.

    Since I always start fresh from a system boot, my angles calculations are unchanged and I can pocket the balls 100% of the time with those numbers.
  • I've figured out that all you have to do is hit right twice to pocket the 4 ball every time when breaking on the first level.
  • Originally posted by: Bea_Iank

     
    Originally posted by: mbd39

     
    Originally posted by: Bea_Iank



    I will check that, but I can guarantee that with the angle and distance I am using to break, I always drop the same ball, whether I am running VirtuaNes or Fceux.

    And I have done that a few dozen times so far.





    The small amount of randomness might only occur with a straight down the middle break and not when breaking from an angle. I also don't change the distance.

     

    From what I am seeing, it depends on the stage it gives you.

    If you start from a fresh boot, it will always behave the same way, but after you reset once, it changes the background scenario and starts the seed with a different value. But even then, the amount of starting seed values seem to be limited.

    There was about 10 different spreads after the break from my tests. I ran about 100 breaks.

    Since I always start fresh from a system boot, my angles calculations are unchanged and I can pocket the balls 100% of the time with those numbers.





    Yeah, even when breaking from an angle, I get different outcomes after resets, even though I'm always sinking the 4 ball. It's the resets.

     
  • Stage 59 is driving me insane. But I will gather the data, one way or another.

    Just two stages more to go and I can post a 60 perfect games score... and then I will have to repeat it tomorrow or Friday night with all the data I gathered to record a video and post here.

    My poor sanity. At least the math part has been fun.  
  • Score updated at page 1.

    I will be posting video proof till Saturday. For now my sanity is nowhere to be found.
  • Originally posted by: Bea_Iank



    Score updated at page 1.

    I will be posting video proof till Saturday. For now my sanity is nowhere to be found.



    Is that the highest score possible?? Damn.



    Meanwhile the rest of us are posting baby scores.



     
  • Originally posted by: mbd39

     
    Originally posted by: Bea_Iank



    Score updated at page 1.

    I will be posting video proof till Saturday. For now my sanity is nowhere to be found.



    Is that the highest score possible?? Damn.



    Meanwhile the rest of us are posting baby scores.



     

    No, it is definitely not the highest score possible.

    I have left quite a few points in the table while I was building rate to 99 by dropping higher numbered balls before lower numbered ones.

    Dropping 2 or more balls with a single shot also build bonus ratio, which would allow one to reach ratio 99 earlier and thus scoring higher.

    I think that score can be surpassed by at least 100K points.

    But I sure as hell ain't going to try that.



     
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