Ultra 4K HD TV gaming & the Framemeister
My wife and I are planning to upgrade our TV sometime in the near future. My understanding is that 4K HDTV's have essentially 4x the resolution of 1080 HDTV's. Has anyone tried retro gaming on one of these super expensive things? How about a framemeister upscaling to 1080 on a 4K Ultra HD?
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My wife and I are planning to upgrade our TV sometime in the near future. My understanding is that 4K HDTV's have essentially 4x the resolution of 1080 HDTV's. Has anyone tried retro gaming on one of these super expensive things? How about a framemeister upscaling to 1080 on a 4K Ultra HD?
Unless you have some other use for a 4K tv, what are you hoping to accomplish?
1080p is MORE than enough crispness, and if the games are properly upconverted, 4K is just going to scale that up, not provide any real further clarity. (when we're talking about classic consoles that are already massively upscaled at 1080p)
Originally posted by: arch_8ngel
Unless you have some other use for a 4K tv, what are you hoping to accomplish?
People just keep soaking up that technological rat race. Tomorrow it'll be 8K, soon you'll be able to see the dust mites on skin in eye searing quantum-HD quality!
Originally posted by: arch_8ngel
Unless you have some other use for a 4K tv, what are you hoping to accomplish?
People just keep soaking up that technological rat race. Tomorrow it'll be 8K, soon you'll be able to see the dust mites on skin in eye searing quantum-HD quality!
My body is ready for Quantom-HD! Bring It On!!
Originally posted by: dmvanmeveren
My wife and I are planning to upgrade our TV sometime in the near future. My understanding is that 4K HDTV's have essentially 4x the resolution of 1080 HDTV's. Has anyone tried retro gaming on one of these super expensive things? How about a framemeister upscaling to 1080 on a 4K Ultra HD?
Forgot to correct this.
4K is only 2x more than 1080p.
My wife and I are planning to upgrade our TV sometime in the near future. My understanding is that 4K HDTV's have essentially 4x the resolution of 1080 HDTV's. Has anyone tried retro gaming on one of these super expensive things? How about a framemeister upscaling to 1080 on a 4K Ultra HD?
Forgot to correct this.
4K is only 2x more than 1080p.
Depends on what you're referring to.
It is 4x as many pixels, total (i.e. it is basically 4 tiled 1080p displays)
But it is then only "twice as wide".
"8k UHD" is 4x more pixels than that (i.e. 4 tiled 4k displays).
Obviously, from a marketing standpoint, they are always going to lean toward the largest sounding value.
Though even from a technical standpoint, it might be fair to refer to "multiples of resolution" as the multiple of total pixel count (rather than edge pixel count)
I may get rid of the mini and just get a 20" pvm since the 14" is nice but a little small for my taste.
I'm actually thinking of going backwards. I have an XRGB mini on a 1080p 24" monitor and while it looks good I was blown away when a friend gave me a 14" PVM. There really is no substitute for how nice games look on an RGB crt.
I may get rid of the mini and just get a 20" pvm since the 14" is nice but a little small for my taste.
Hahaha dude i am in the same boat! I just got a 27 inch Trinitron of craigslist and eventually want a PVM. I love the mini but it can be a pain in the ass for everyday gaming.
I'm gonna use my Gscart Scart switch to output to BOTH my CRT and my PC monitor. That way i can play on a CRT in all of its glory but still record on the HDTV using the XRGB mini, even at the same time thanks to the simultaneous output on the Gscart. I have to use a Scart to component transcoder, but since they are both Analog there is no added latency, and with a company like shinybow usually no signal loss as well.
Originally posted by: arch_8ngel
Depends on what you're referring to.
It is 4x as many pixels, total (i.e. it is basically 4 tiled 1080p displays)
But it is then only "twice as wide".
"8k UHD" is 4x more pixels than that (i.e. 4 tiled 4k displays).
Obviously, from a marketing standpoint, they are always going to lean toward the largest sounding value.
Though even from a technical standpoint, it might be fair to refer to "multiples of resolution" as the multiple of total pixel count (rather than edge pixel count)
I meant to say 4K is only twice as wide and tall as 1080P. 4K is a width measurement (we all know 1080p is vertically measured), pure marketing BS.
I'm actually thinking of going backwards. I have an XRGB mini on a 1080p 24" monitor and while it looks good I was blown away when a friend gave me a 14" PVM. There really is no substitute for how nice games look on an RGB crt.
I may get rid of the mini and just get a 20" pvm since the 14" is nice but a little small for my taste.
Hahaha dude i am in the same boat! I just got a 27 inch Trinitron of craigslist and eventually want a PVM. I love the mini but it can be a pain in the ass for everyday gaming.
I'm gonna use my Gscart Scart switch to output to BOTH my CRT and my PC monitor. That way i can play on a CRT in all of its glory but still record on the HDTV using the XRGB mini, even at the same time thanks to the simultaneous output on the Gscart. I have to use a Scart to component transcoder, but since they are both Analog there is no added latency, and with a company like shinybow usually no signal loss as well.
I fell in love hard with my pvm. So hard, I bought a 20" to go with the 14".
I'm actually thinking of going backwards. I have an XRGB mini on a 1080p 24" monitor and while it looks good I was blown away when a friend gave me a 14" PVM. There really is no substitute for how nice games look on an RGB crt.
I may get rid of the mini and just get a 20" pvm since the 14" is nice but a little small for my taste.
Hahaha dude i am in the same boat! I just got a 27 inch Trinitron of craigslist and eventually want a PVM. I love the mini but it can be a pain in the ass for everyday gaming.
I'm gonna use my Gscart Scart switch to output to BOTH my CRT and my PC monitor. That way i can play on a CRT in all of its glory but still record on the HDTV using the XRGB mini, even at the same time thanks to the simultaneous output on the Gscart. I have to use a Scart to component transcoder, but since they are both Analog there is no added latency, and with a company like shinybow usually no signal loss as well.
I fell in love hard with my pvm. So hard, I bought a 20" to go with the 14".
I don't blame you. Where did you find yours? I want one, but they never pop up locally. I am wondering what the best way to acquire one would be.
Only thing harder than finding one is convincing my fiance to let me have yet another TV in the house lol
I'm actually thinking of going backwards. I have an XRGB mini on a 1080p 24" monitor and while it looks good I was blown away when a friend gave me a 14" PVM. There really is no substitute for how nice games look on an RGB crt.
I may get rid of the mini and just get a 20" pvm since the 14" is nice but a little small for my taste.
Hahaha dude i am in the same boat! I just got a 27 inch Trinitron of craigslist and eventually want a PVM. I love the mini but it can be a pain in the ass for everyday gaming.
I'm gonna use my Gscart Scart switch to output to BOTH my CRT and my PC monitor. That way i can play on a CRT in all of its glory but still record on the HDTV using the XRGB mini, even at the same time thanks to the simultaneous output on the Gscart. I have to use a Scart to component transcoder, but since they are both Analog there is no added latency, and with a company like shinybow usually no signal loss as well.
I fell in love hard with my pvm. So hard, I bought a 20" to go with the 14".
Yup I wasn't blown away until I got the scart to bnc cable and saw how beautiful rgb looks.
Whats a pvm?
Professional video monitors made by Sony and other companies. They were mainly used in hospitals and tv stations. They were not for the general public and were very expensive when new. Most of these places have switched over to new screens so they are of no use to them anymore. However they are perfect for retro gaming because they accept RGB.
http://retrorgb.com/rgbmonitors.html
Whats a pvm?
Professional video monitors made by Sony and other companies. They were mainly used in hospitals and tv stations. They were not for the general public and were very expensive when new. Most of these places have switched over to new screens so they are of no use to them anymore. However they are perfect for retro gaming because they accept RGB.
http://retrorgb.com/rgbmonitors.h...
Ah very neat, I had never heard of these before. Thanks for the info.
Whats a pvm?
Professional video monitors made by Sony and other companies. They were mainly used in hospitals and tv stations. They were not for the general public and were very expensive when new. Most of these places have switched over to new screens so they are of no use to them anymore. However they are perfect for retro gaming because they accept RGB.
http://retrorgb.com/rgbmonitors.html
Ah very neat, I had never heard of these before. Thanks for the info.
They really are something you have to see in person to fully appreciate, and once you have one it is hard to go back. They are pricey though for 20 inch models, and it is hard to even find them in good working condition.
A decent alternative is using RGB through a component transcoder on a regular CRT.
I don't blame you. Where did you find yours? I want one, but they never pop up locally. I am wondering what the best way to acquire one would be.
Only thing harder than finding one is convincing my fiance to let me have yet another TV in the house lol
I got the 14" for free from a buddy who works at a college.
The 20" I sniped off eBay for cheap, with free shipping. Thought it was going to be the situation where I return it once they realized their mistake and packaged it shitty, but surprisingly it was packaged extremely well for an 80 lb TV. I was impressed, it showed up perfect and works AMAZING
Any tips for finding a pvm locally? I imagine I cant just search pvm in kijiji, do you have to know all the model names etc?
Start with medical supply / liquidators
If that doesnt work check with TV or electronics repair
Last step is "e-waste" disposal places
Edit: I realize we are jacking this guys thread, if you want me to make a thread on PVM discussion let me know