Expensive games that aren't even that rare ... I dont get it

Lets use Snatcher for sega CD just for example...Why is this game so expensive? Looking at ebay sold its not that scarce of a game and I personally have seen it in 2 local game stores as well which really does not speak well for its rarity. Why is it so expensive then? Is it THAT good? To me it looks kinda meh. But Im also not into that type of game. Its been about 10 years of actually giving a shit about games I grew up with and I still sometimes am just really confused as to why certian games are so much money. Maybe someone can explain it to me?
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  • Originally posted by: Brock Landers




    thats ridiculous. there isnt even any mention of how good the game is!



     
  • Originally posted by: BertBerryCrunch

     
    Originally posted by: Brock Landers



     

    thats ridiculous. there isnt even any mention of how good the game is!



     

    I think the demand needs to basically turn into a vertical cliff on the left-side to account for the "panic" factor too



     
  • Hype or the "it factor".
  • Originally posted by: BertBerryCrunch

     
    Originally posted by: Brock Landers




    thats ridiculous. there isnt even any mention of how good the game is!



     

    I would say demmand is based on how good a game is. It's why Little Samson is worth almost as much as Dino Peak even though there are way more copies available. It's also why Contra sells for high despite there being so many around while a way rarer NES game could sell for less.



    Snatcher is considered one of the must have Sega CD games. I think it's mentioned more ofthen that other rare games like Popful Mail so even if there's tons of copies that's going to drive the demmand up. 

     
  • Sometimes you'll see a rare game more often than a common game just because of the price it commands. It's sought after and prominently displayed.
  • Most people never had a Sega CD, so whenever they get around to buying one for their collection, they don't know what games to get. They go online and Google best Sega CD games. Snatcher is on every single top Sega CD list on the internet, and therefore, everyone wants a copy of it. It may not be rare, but it's still much less common than most Sega CD games.
  • Also, how many appear on eBay is not the best indication of supply. Sales of a game like that are often spurred by the price and rarity. Yes, you see some thing more often than you otherwise would particularly because they are rare.  
  • Snatcher is such a cool game. Almost worth the $400 or whatever ridiculous price it is these days   It's the most fun I've ever had exhausting menu options for 10 hours.
  • Originally posted by: BertBerryCrunch

     
    Originally posted by: Brock Landers




    thats ridiculous. there isnt even any mention of how good the game is!

    I think we're going to need another axis



    mind = blown



     
  • This should clear it all up.

     
  • Originally posted by: Tulpa



    This should clear it all up.

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    that is fantastic  
  • Originally posted by: Tulpa



    This should clear it all up.

    image



    LOL! Nice.

    Good thing all of those things are actually covered by the original graph.  



    AVGN affects demand.

    AliExpress affects demand and supply (some buyers will accept it).

    A game being a "good" classic affects demand regardless of the supply it once fostered.

    Etc.



    I think the reason most people have a problem with this is that they have trouble visualizing how these things fit, but they definitely do.
  • image



    someone beat me to it
  • Wait is the original graph serious? It says increased supply correlates to higher price.
  • I get what you guys are saying, it just seems very unstable / artificial to me if a very expensive game is only expensive because its the flavor of the month or regarded as a must have for the console. I guess in my head I always thought very expensive equated to very rare ie. low production #'s or condition factors such as its still factory sealed or its box condition is mint which is mind blowing because mainly 10 year olds owned it 30 years ago etc.... Im not saying its right it just how I perceive it.
  • Originally posted by: gunpei



    Wait is the original graph serious? It says increased supply correlates to higher price.



    I have a hard time understanding that half of the Supply/Demand curve as well. But everyone illustrates it the same way.
  • That graph by tulpa is awesome!
  • Why are hatchimals expensive?
  • Originally posted by: VGD



    Why are hatchimals expensive?



    Because greedy resellers like to hoard all the rare ones and only sell when they need to turn a profit! >: (



    Also, holy crap my nephews and niece loves anything that comes inside of an egg...except for well, actual eggs.

     
  • Originally posted by: JosephLeo

     
    Originally posted by: gunpei



    Wait is the original graph serious? It says increased supply correlates to higher price.



    I have a hard time understanding that half of the Supply/Demand curve as well. But everyone illustrates it the same way.



    It's been awhile since I've taken economics classes, but I believe anything past the equilibrium point represents 'excess supply' or 'excess demand'. 

    With games, there is a finite supply, however the supply available at any given time depends on how many willing sellers there are in the market.



    So you can imagine if Supply greatly exceeded Demand (say tons of people were to suddenly post game X on Ebay), that would shift the Supply line to the right and the equilibrium point would be on the lower right of the chart (low price and high quantity).

     
  • Originally posted by: gunpei



    Wait is the original graph serious? It says increased supply correlates to higher price.

    No it means with a higher price you have more supply and less demand.  As in no one wants to buy it



     
  • Originally posted by: BertBerryCrunch

     
    Originally posted by: Tulpa



    This should clear it all up.

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    that is fantastic  



    Is that a Loopin' Louie?  

     
  • Wasnt snatcher faked on ebay a ton?



    Op make sure you are looking at actual authentic games.



    There was one person who used to make the image and put it on cd-rs.
  • Originally posted by: Brock Landers



    No it means with a higher price you have more supply and less demand.  As in no one wants to buy it



    Oh, now I get it. Thanks. 

     
  • Originally posted by: Tulpa



    This should clear it all up.

    image

    This should be in every economics 101 class.

    Student: "Professor Teacher, why does the price of something rise?"

              Teacher: "Because, Jimmy, of the James and Mike loop illustrated on your graph."

                   Student: "Oooohhhh, that makes sense"



     
  • Originally posted by: quest4nes



    Wasnt snatcher faked on ebay a ton?



    Op make sure you are looking at actual authentic games.



    There was one person who used to make the image and put it on cd-rs.



    Not that Im aware of, at least recently. Im pretty sure all the ones in ebay sold are legit, they were all CIB and look right. I was only using Snatcher as pure example, I personally have zero interest in the game and am not loking to actually buy it. But thanks for the heads up!

     
  • While I'm still wondering why lumps of plastic can fetch any price more then $5...honestly I don't think games hold any monetary value. They hold historical value in some cases...to show how far we've come from stuff like Pong. And in some cases games hold artistic value, there are some beautiful looking games out there, or games with wonderful stories.



    That's why I hate paying all these stupid prices for games...I'm in it for enjoyment only...
  • There's also sentimental value for some if they're selling off stuff from their childhood...I know I'm guilty of high balling stuff like that.  
  • Originally posted by: gunpei



    Wait is the original graph serious? It says increased supply correlates to higher price.



    It is charting price instead of demand and properly shows reduced demand and a higher price that isn't supported by the market. The graph you're thinking of would have demand along one side instead of a plotted line. It is a bit confusing since we sometimes think of price as "demand " (it's only a measure of demand when set by the market) and quantity as "supply." This seems to have all four in order to show an intersecting point (optimal), but if you pick the right two and plot them you will see the graph you're thinking of.
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