That wasn't really his point, though. It's not that all official games have one logo on it saying it's official so there is that kind of consistency. He just doesn't like the wide variety of colored carts, and I agree with him. Some of mine I look at and feel like I'm looking at a bootleg game when it is the real deal.
You need to expand your concept of what a bootleg game is. Official licensed Famicom games manufactured by Nintendo have all the same quality standards of licensed NES games. That "one logo" has just as much significance as the Nintendo seal of quality, despite what you think. The variance in color is no different from all the colored N64 carts that everyone on here loves.
Third party cartridges will obviously vary, just like licensed (Acclaim, Sunsoft, Virgin) and unlicensed (Tengen, Camerica, AVE, etc) NES cartridges.
You're totally missing the point. We know what it means to be officially licensed. It's just not as nice and neat as a US version where it's all standard grey carts. It looks different and stands out. He literally said those words.
Just owning the game physically, legally, and economically is my general rule. I don't see that much of a division between the Famicom/NES and the Disk System to a lesser extent, not that one doesn't exist. I can respect/be jealous of someone with a copy of Little Samson vs. my copy of Lickle, but at the end of the day I have no regrets.
The only times I break my rule is when it comes to the titles that are Pirates to begin with such as Pokemon Yellow, and strictly American Properties such as Ducktales 2, Jetsons, and Bucky O'Hare as I feel the experience would differ; ironically enough, Dinosaur Peak is NTSC/PAL only. lol
Wut.
Are you trying to say there is no Famicom version? Because Famicom games are NTSC too.
What's all this silliness about being an 'actual' collector? You can collect Famicom carts, believe it or not -_-;;;
While I understand what you are saying I think they more mean collecting a full set isn't the same if let's say you have the majority NTSC but then went the Famicom route for the expensive titles and claim you have a complete set. While yes I guess I could see how people would argue that, personally (I feel this would be the opinion of the masses) don't think that's a "full set".
What's all this silliness about being an 'actual' collector? You can collect Famicom carts, believe it or not -_-;;;
While I understand what you are saying I think they more mean collecting a full set isn't the same if let's say you have the majority NTSC but then went the Famicom route for the expensive titles and claim you have a complete set. While yes I guess I could see how people would argue that, personally (I feel this would be the opinion of the masses) don't think that's a "full set".
I am not a full set collector and I think most modern collectors also aren't these days. But... they are still collectors.
I've seen people with full NES sets. And people with full Famicom sets.
But I have yet to see someone buy some Famicom filler and say they have a "complete NES set".
Just owning the game physically, legally, and economically is my general rule. I don't see that much of a division between the Famicom/NES and the Disk System to a lesser extent, not that one doesn't exist. I can respect/be jealous of someone with a copy of Little Samson vs. my copy of Lickle, but at the end of the day I have no regrets.
The only times I break my rule is when it comes to the titles that are Pirates to begin with such as Pokemon Yellow, and strictly American Properties such as Ducktales 2, Jetsons, and Bucky O'Hare as I feel the experience would differ; ironically enough, Dinosaur Peak is NTSC/PAL only. lol
Wut.
Are you trying to say there is no Famicom version? Because Famicom games are NTSC too.
My choice of wording has gotten me mixed up as well. What I mean is there is no official Famicom version of Dinosaur Peak unlike every other major rare licensed NES game meaning it's the only title you'll be stuck paying a premium for regardless to obtain legitamately.
What's all this silliness about being an 'actual' collector? You can collect Famicom carts, believe it or not -_-;;;
This is NintendoAge, we're all mad here, Alice. This is where NTSC means only USA and only the American NES can provide you with obsessive compulsive collection uniformity.
That wasn't really his point, though. It's not that all official games have one logo on it saying it's official so there is that kind of consistency. He just doesn't like the wide variety of colored carts, and I agree with him. Some of mine I look at and feel like I'm looking at a bootleg game when it is the real deal.
I agree. A shelf full of gray carts looks awesome.
A shelf full of multicolored carts looks like a clown exploded in your gameroom.
That wasn't really his point, though. It's not that all official games have one logo on it saying it's official so there is that kind of consistency. He just doesn't like the wide variety of colored carts, and I agree with him. Some of mine I look at and feel like I'm looking at a bootleg game when it is the real deal.
I agree. A shelf full of gray carts looks awesome.
A shelf full of multicolored carts looks like a clown exploded in your gameroom.
That wasn't really his point, though. It's not that all official games have one logo on it saying it's official so there is that kind of consistency. He just doesn't like the wide variety of colored carts, and I agree with him. Some of mine I look at and feel like I'm looking at a bootleg game when it is the real deal.
I agree. A shelf full of gray carts looks awesome.
A shelf full of multicolored carts looks like a clown exploded in your gameroom.
So, uh... why did the US cart style get end labels? Is there a reason for that?
Am I crazy... I'm trying to imagine my Famicom carts and I'm THINKING they don't have end labels. Ugh...
I'm thinking more and more on this... and I'm positive I'm wrong. And I look dumb now.
some do, like kid Dracula for example. The majority don't though. Probably figured Americans are too dumb to look at the cover to figure out what the game was. Or because Atari did it that way, so they assumed we'd prefer that, Atari wasnt around in Japan so there wasn't a standard set there, this also may be partially why CIB games are so much easier to find there
What's all this silliness about being an 'actual' collector? You can collect Famicom carts, believe it or not -_-;;;
I think its silly to say collecting NES and FC are the same thing though...
I don't think anyone said that.
The OP is asking if it could be interpreted that way, and you see it all the time in the SNES "collecting" scene
What do you think we're talking about in here?
About whether or not collectors would be willing to buy the Famicom carts of rare games instead. I personally feel if you aren't going for full sets, there's nothing wrong with grabbing say a Game Boy Duck Tales 2 instead of the NES version. Or a Famicom Kid Dracula instead of the Game Boy version. Especially given prices these days. Obviously you can't go around saying you have a complete NES set or complete Famicom set if you only have part of one or the other, but I don't believe the OP asked that.
My statements were not directed at the OP, but at the people who were talking about "true" or "real" collectors. Yer bustin' mah chops man
I don't really see the point. Although not as dumb as filling your collection with fakes/repros because you can't afford it, I still don't see the point of substituting something that isn't part of the set and pretending it belongs in there. But a lot of pretending and playing make believe already goes on this hobby so whatever.
I don't really see the point. Although not as dumb as filling your collection with fakes/repros because you can't afford it, I still don't see the point of substituting something that isn't part of the set and pretending it belongs in there. But a lot of pretending and playing make believe already goes on this hobby so whatever.
The peggster has a good point.
Why pretend? If you buy fami carts to pretend you are collecting nes, just say you collect famicom then I guess?
Collecting high end expensive games isn't about price, Its about getting what you want, because you have enough disposable income.
If you're in it for just playing them then yes it's a better way, but if you're an actual collector...eh no. I would consider it "cheating" if I went and bought Famicom versions of the over priced NES games...the only Famicom games I'll buy will be exclusives that never made it over here...and that require 0 Japanese language knowledge lol.
Well, I don't see how saving $300 for game like Zombie Nation for example which was originally a Japanese game is really cheating. Why not get a loose Zombie Nation for the famicom along with a kick ass Famicom collection with that cash. I find it hard to ignore games like Gradius II, Holy Diver, Adventure Island 4 and the Goonies for example. To me, as long as you aren't substituting random classics I don't see how that would be cheating or taking away from anything.
Because my whole collection would be NA releases, except for the expensive games? It's just...wrong. I couldn't do it. I'm OCD about my collections...and that would drive me up the wall.
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Originally posted by: Loxx O)))
That wasn't really his point, though. It's not that all official games have one logo on it saying it's official so there is that kind of consistency. He just doesn't like the wide variety of colored carts, and I agree with him. Some of mine I look at and feel like I'm looking at a bootleg game when it is the real deal.
You need to expand your concept of what a bootleg game is. Official licensed Famicom games manufactured by Nintendo have all the same quality standards of licensed NES games. That "one logo" has just as much significance as the Nintendo seal of quality, despite what you think. The variance in color is no different from all the colored N64 carts that everyone on here loves.
Third party cartridges will obviously vary, just like licensed (Acclaim, Sunsoft, Virgin) and unlicensed (Tengen, Camerica, AVE, etc) NES cartridges.
Just owning the game physically, legally, and economically is my general rule. I don't see that much of a division between the Famicom/NES and the Disk System to a lesser extent, not that one doesn't exist. I can respect/be jealous of someone with a copy of Little Samson vs. my copy of Lickle, but at the end of the day I have no regrets.
The only times I break my rule is when it comes to the titles that are Pirates to begin with such as Pokemon Yellow, and strictly American Properties such as Ducktales 2, Jetsons, and Bucky O'Hare as I feel the experience would differ; ironically enough, Dinosaur Peak is NTSC/PAL only. lol
Wut.
Are you trying to say there is no Famicom version? Because Famicom games are NTSC too.
What's all this silliness about being an 'actual' collector? You can collect Famicom carts, believe it or not -_-;;;
While I understand what you are saying I think they more mean collecting a full set isn't the same if let's say you have the majority NTSC but then went the Famicom route for the expensive titles and claim you have a complete set. While yes I guess I could see how people would argue that, personally (I feel this would be the opinion of the masses) don't think that's a "full set".
Originally posted by: Foochie776
Originally posted by: cirellio
What's all this silliness about being an 'actual' collector? You can collect Famicom carts, believe it or not -_-;;;
While I understand what you are saying I think they more mean collecting a full set isn't the same if let's say you have the majority NTSC but then went the Famicom route for the expensive titles and claim you have a complete set. While yes I guess I could see how people would argue that, personally (I feel this would be the opinion of the masses) don't think that's a "full set".
I am not a full set collector and I think most modern collectors also aren't these days. But... they are still collectors.
I've seen people with full NES sets. And people with full Famicom sets.
But I have yet to see someone buy some Famicom filler and say they have a "complete NES set".
Just owning the game physically, legally, and economically is my general rule. I don't see that much of a division between the Famicom/NES and the Disk System to a lesser extent, not that one doesn't exist. I can respect/be jealous of someone with a copy of Little Samson vs. my copy of Lickle, but at the end of the day I have no regrets.
The only times I break my rule is when it comes to the titles that are Pirates to begin with such as Pokemon Yellow, and strictly American Properties such as Ducktales 2, Jetsons, and Bucky O'Hare as I feel the experience would differ; ironically enough, Dinosaur Peak is NTSC/PAL only. lol
Wut.
Are you trying to say there is no Famicom version? Because Famicom games are NTSC too.
My choice of wording has gotten me mixed up as well. What I mean is there is no official Famicom version of Dinosaur Peak unlike every other major rare licensed NES game meaning it's the only title you'll be stuck paying a premium for regardless to obtain legitamately.
Originally posted by: cirellio
What's all this silliness about being an 'actual' collector? You can collect Famicom carts, believe it or not -_-;;;
This is NintendoAge, we're all mad here, Alice. This is where NTSC means only USA and only the American NES can provide you with obsessive compulsive collection uniformity.
If you are going to go that route, or just want some interesting "new" games, then collecting Famicom games is a good logical step.
Of course if the real motive is to just play games on actual hardware, then a flash cart is always the best option.
That wasn't really his point, though. It's not that all official games have one logo on it saying it's official so there is that kind of consistency. He just doesn't like the wide variety of colored carts, and I agree with him. Some of mine I look at and feel like I'm looking at a bootleg game when it is the real deal.
I agree. A shelf full of gray carts looks awesome.
A shelf full of multicolored carts looks like a clown exploded in your gameroom.
That wasn't really his point, though. It's not that all official games have one logo on it saying it's official so there is that kind of consistency. He just doesn't like the wide variety of colored carts, and I agree with him. Some of mine I look at and feel like I'm looking at a bootleg game when it is the real deal.
I agree. A shelf full of gray carts looks awesome.
A shelf full of multicolored carts looks like a clown exploded in your gameroom.
which is also awesome
What's all this silliness about being an 'actual' collector? You can collect Famicom carts, believe it or not -_-;;;
I think its silly to say collecting NES and FC are the same thing though...
it's not really collecting if you buy something that isn't what you're collecting.
The thread really could of ended here
That wasn't really his point, though. It's not that all official games have one logo on it saying it's official so there is that kind of consistency. He just doesn't like the wide variety of colored carts, and I agree with him. Some of mine I look at and feel like I'm looking at a bootleg game when it is the real deal.
I agree. A shelf full of gray carts looks awesome.
A shelf full of multicolored carts looks like a clown exploded in your gameroom.
which is also awesome
I cannot refute that statement.
Am I crazy... I'm trying to imagine my Famicom carts and I'm THINKING they don't have end labels. Ugh...
I'm thinking more and more on this... and I'm positive I'm wrong. And I look dumb now.
So, uh... why did the US cart style get end labels? Is there a reason for that?
In case you forgot what game you were playing and you could lift the lid to look.
What's all this silliness about being an 'actual' collector? You can collect Famicom carts, believe it or not -_-;;;
I think its silly to say collecting NES and FC are the same thing though...
I don't think anyone said that.
So, uh... why did the US cart style get end labels? Is there a reason for that?
Am I crazy... I'm trying to imagine my Famicom carts and I'm THINKING they don't have end labels. Ugh...
I'm thinking more and more on this... and I'm positive I'm wrong. And I look dumb now.
some do, like kid Dracula for example. The majority don't though. Probably figured Americans are too dumb to look at the cover to figure out what the game was. Or because Atari did it that way, so they assumed we'd prefer that, Atari wasnt around in Japan so there wasn't a standard set there, this also may be partially why CIB games are so much easier to find there
What's all this silliness about being an 'actual' collector? You can collect Famicom carts, believe it or not -_-;;;
I think its silly to say collecting NES and FC are the same thing though...
I don't think anyone said that.
The OP is asking if it could be interpreted that way, and you see it all the time in the SNES "collecting" scene
What do you think we're talking about in here?
Originally posted by: BertBerryCrunch
some do, like kid Dracula for example. The majority don't though.
You mean Konami-manufactured cartridges... Both short and tall varieties. Bandai and Namco cartridges also had end labels.
By majority you mean Nintendo-manufactured cartridges and most third party licensed cartridges (Taito, Jaleco, etc)
What's all this silliness about being an 'actual' collector? You can collect Famicom carts, believe it or not -_-;;;
I think its silly to say collecting NES and FC are the same thing though...
I don't think anyone said that.
The OP is asking if it could be interpreted that way, and you see it all the time in the SNES "collecting" scene
What do you think we're talking about in here?
About whether or not collectors would be willing to buy the Famicom carts of rare games instead. I personally feel if you aren't going for full sets, there's nothing wrong with grabbing say a Game Boy Duck Tales 2 instead of the NES version. Or a Famicom Kid Dracula instead of the Game Boy version. Especially given prices these days. Obviously you can't go around saying you have a complete NES set or complete Famicom set if you only have part of one or the other, but I don't believe the OP asked that.
My statements were not directed at the OP, but at the people who were talking about "true" or "real" collectors. Yer bustin' mah chops man
I don't really see the point. Although not as dumb as filling your collection with fakes/repros because you can't afford it, I still don't see the point of substituting something that isn't part of the set and pretending it belongs in there. But a lot of pretending and playing make believe already goes on this hobby so whatever.
The peggster has a good point.
Why pretend? If you buy fami carts to pretend you are collecting nes, just say you collect famicom then I guess?
Collecting high end expensive games isn't about price, Its about getting what you want, because you have enough disposable income.
Originally posted by: ZombieGuyGeezus
NTSC or bust. If you collect Famicom too than go for it but they're two different sets.
North America and Japan both use NTSC... It's a video standard, not a region.
Originally posted by: pixelsmash
Originally posted by: Astor Reinhardt
If you're in it for just playing them then yes it's a better way, but if you're an actual collector...eh no. I would consider it "cheating" if I went and bought Famicom versions of the over priced NES games...the only Famicom games I'll buy will be exclusives that never made it over here...and that require 0 Japanese language knowledge lol.
Well, I don't see how saving $300 for game like Zombie Nation for example which was originally a Japanese game is really cheating. Why not get a loose Zombie Nation for the famicom along with a kick ass Famicom collection with that cash. I find it hard to ignore games like Gradius II, Holy Diver, Adventure Island 4 and the Goonies for example. To me, as long as you aren't substituting random classics I don't see how that would be cheating or taking away from anything.
Because my whole collection would be NA releases, except for the expensive games? It's just...wrong. I couldn't do it. I'm OCD about my collections...and that would drive me up the wall.