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  • Great block by Ginobili to end the game. Still hoping the Rockets can win the series.
  • Despite the supposed record-setting attendance record for the NBA this year, I haven't been able to help but notice tons of half full arenas throughout the last month, Chicago, Atlanta, Washington, Houston...they try to fool you with those t-shirts placed on the chairs, but it's really noticable how fans have not turned out for some of these games, particularly elimination games.



    That was an awesome smackdown by Boston last night, the first game all Playoffs where nobody could do wrong, and it's looking like another one from San Antonio right now. This game still has 20 minutes to go, but James Harden's stat line is unbelievable right now. The Spurs are equally unbelievable sniffing another WCF with no Tim Duncan, Tony Parker or Kawhi Leonard.
  • To top it off, Harden had a ton of crumbs in his beard tonight. Very tough game, Spurs were flawless in every way.
  • Originally posted by: Trj22487



    Despite the supposed record-setting attendance record for the NBA this year, I haven't been able to help but notice tons of half full arenas throughout the last month, Chicago, Atlanta, Washington, Houston...they try to fool you with those t-shirts placed on the chairs, but it's really noticable how fans have not turned out for some of these games, particularly elimination games.



    That was an awesome smackdown by Boston last night, the first game all Playoffs where nobody could do wrong, and it's looking like another one from San Antonio right now. This game still has 20 minutes to go, but James Harden's stat line is unbelievable right now. The Spurs are equally unbelievable sniffing another WCF with no Tim Duncan, Tony Parker or Kawhi Leonard.





    The Bulls get the top attendance almost every single year. Even when we were winning sub-20 games in the early 2000s. You sure you were watching a Bulls home game?



    edit: Guess I should read your first line, oops. But seriously though, Bulls, Bears, and Cubs are always packed.
  • Yes the United Center looked 66% full at its peak for Celtics-Bulls Game 6. The fans did not show up for that one and the ones that did sat on their hands all night.
  • Don't know man I might have to look again but the Bulls are the second most popular NBA franchise (behind the Lakers) and I've never been to a game that wasn't packed. Unfortunately we support it too much imo, management is bad and doesn't deserve our money.



    edit: actually the Celtics are the one seed and didn't even sell out this year? That always puzzled me, got the most titles and is easily the least cared about of the big 4 franchises in Mass. I'm also surprised at Dallas' turnout. Didn't know the Mavs were that popular down there.
  • Rockets stadium is in a bad location for 7pm tip



    Lower bowl seats are incredibly expensive. People that can afford those work till 5 downtown. Its just impossible to get out of downtown and back into it for the game in less than 2 hours in rush hour.



    Horrible game for the rockets. Just an embarrasment in effort. There are rumors floating around of Harden having a concussion. Something was wrong with him. He only had 8 shot attempts halfway through the 4th. I think he ended with 11. Something was wrong. Its like the team was going in slow motion



    Rockets handed them this game at the end of last game. Drained the team. Something is wrong. I know they were dog ass tired at the end of game 5 with mike D'antoni going with a 7 man rotation post nene injury. Refused to play dekker or harrel which baffled me since the rockets players were so tired at the end of that game 5. They came out playing the same today.
  • I've thought there have been a lot of strange start times in this Playoffs, it really seemed like the Hawks/Wizards series got scheduled awful start times all series just to make broadcast times work.



    Stephen A. Smith flat out accused somebody of drugging or slipping something in James Harden's drink, he refuses to believe that wasn't somebody else wearing a James Harden jersey. I haven't seen a game quite like that since LeBron's last game with the Cavs in his first run with the franchise. He was just noticably strange the entire game, he looked glassy in the eyes. 0 field goals inside of the 3 point line. 9 for the Rockets as an entire team. James seemed to speak fairly clearly in the press conference, but he clearly wanted no acknowledgment of the insinuations that he quit on his team.

  • Originally posted by: Trevor



    edit: actually the Celtics are the one seed and didn't even sell out this year? That always puzzled me, got the most titles and is easily the least cared about of the big 4 franchises in Mass. I'm also surprised at Dallas' turnout. Didn't know the Mavs were that popular down there.



    Boston had a 99.6% home attendance percentage for 2016-17 regular season. Not sure what you are talking about. TD Garden seats about 2000 less people than Chicago's United Center when the stadiums are set up for basketball. United Center is just a bigger place. Yes Chicago was #1 in attendance this year but I'm telling you the building never filled at any point their final game of the season. Once Rondo went down for the series, Chicago lost 3 straight home playoff games, and you could feel the by the 3rd game that the fans had thrown in the towel on that particular group of guys.


  • Originally posted by: Trj22487

     
    Originally posted by: Trevor



    edit: actually the Celtics are the one seed and didn't even sell out this year? That always puzzled me, got the most titles and is easily the least cared about of the big 4 franchises in Mass. I'm also surprised at Dallas' turnout. Didn't know the Mavs were that popular down there.



    Boston had a 99.6% home attendance percentage for 2016-17 regular season. Not sure what you are talking about. TD Garden seats about 2000 less people than Chicago's United Center when the stadiums are set up for basketball. United Center is just a bigger place. Yes Chicago was #1 in attendance this year but I'm telling you the building never filled at any point their final game of the season. Once Rondo went down for the series, Chicago lost 3 straight home playoff games, and you could feel the by the 3rd game that the fans had thrown in the towel on that particular group of guys.

     





    No doubt the fans were probably quiet once they went down, but you just aren't making sense. The Bulls have top 5 ticket prices and the number one attendance. Nobody is paying those prices to not go. 66% is laughable unless you mean at the end of the game or maybe even last quarter but that would be pretty much every franchise out there. The numbers and what you are saying just don't make sense  

  • Originally posted by: Trevor




    Originally posted by: Trj22487

     

    Originally posted by: Trevor



    edit: actually the Celtics are the one seed and didn't even sell out this year? That always puzzled me, got the most titles and is easily the least cared about of the big 4 franchises in Mass. I'm also surprised at Dallas' turnout. Didn't know the Mavs were that popular down there.



    Boston had a 99.6% home attendance percentage for 2016-17 regular season. Not sure what you are talking about. TD Garden seats about 2000 less people than Chicago's United Center when the stadiums are set up for basketball. United Center is just a bigger place. Yes Chicago was #1 in attendance this year but I'm telling you the building never filled at any point their final game of the season. Once Rondo went down for the series, Chicago lost 3 straight home playoff games, and you could feel the by the 3rd game that the fans had thrown in the towel on that particular group of guys.

     





    No doubt the fans were probably quiet once they went down, but you just aren't making sense. The Bulls have top 5 ticket prices and the number one attendance. Nobody is paying those prices to not go. 66% is laughable unless you mean at the end of the game or maybe even last quarter but that would be pretty much every franchise out there. The numbers and what you are saying just don't make sense  



    The fuck are you going on about? I'm telling you, I watched the entire game, and with my own eyes saw waves of seats that never filled the entire game. The game was a foregone conclusion in the eyes of Chicago fans, no Rajon Rondo, no chance, the people simply did not show. You keep bringing up the regular season attendance again and again. My post has NOTHING to do with the regular season. I have watched almost EVERY game in this years Playoffs for every series, and there have been tons of buildings that are very clearly not filling up despite the NBA's claim that this year was the greatest NBA attendance of all time. You keep arguing with me and you sound like you haven't even watched a single game this entire playoff







    Here are the highlights from the exact game I am talking about. From the 1st quarter to the 4th, the fans NEVER came. Look at all of those unworn shirts sitting on empty chairs!




  • At least we get one game 7 this round. John Wall is the man, very underrated due to being on the Wizards.
  • That was a huge shot, you could almost feel it coming. Boston really made some mistakes once they were up 5 with the ball! Gonna be fun to have a Game 7, you never know if it will be the last one of this playoffs
  • The bulls have the higest attendance because they have by far thr largest seating capacity of any plaffoff team. I lived there and went to many games. Most regular season games are sparce albeit sold out because there are a shitload of corporate tickets. I would say the bulls are a blip on the radar compared to the other chicago teams
  • Anybody else think that final Horford shot should've been an and-1?
  • I was kinda mad the refs gifted game 6 to the Wizards and in the first half of game 7 it looked like they were trying to do it again. Luckily KO (of all people) carried us across the finish line.



    Wall was nowhere to be found in the latter part of the game. 2-13 in the 2nd half and scoreless in the 4th quarter.



    Hopefully we can be competitive against the Cavs in the ECF!
  • It's crazy the lack of calls Isaiah gets compared to others, but it is what it is. Crazy part is the draft lottery is tonight and the Celtics have the most ping pong balls in the mix. Be nice to finally get one, but odds are against it (25% odds).
  • FUCK YES, BRING ME FULTZ
  • Wow....I've been so pessimistic all day....I NEVER in my life thought I would see the day the Celtics finally won the #1 pick in the lottery!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • I honestly hope we trade down (or outright) and get a solid big. We have no need for another guard.



    Amir is a bum, and a waste of cap space, maybe package him with it?



    I'd really like to see the C's draft Caleb Swanigan. Led the big ten in double doubles this year. Crashes the boards, has post presence, and he can shoot.
  • 19 times the Minneaota Timberwolves have been in the lottery in their 26 year history.



    10 times they have remained the same.



    9 times they have moved down.



    0 times they improved their draft position.



    I hate the NBA lottery...
  • Originally posted by: B.A.



    19 times the Minneaota Timberwolves have been in the lottery in their 26 year history.



    10 times they have remained the same.



    9 times they have moved down.



    0 times they improved their draft position.



    I hate the NBA lottery...



    I seriously think the nba should make all non playoff teams equal lottery chances. It would prevent extreme tanking, and let different citys get good young players. Ive never heard anyone suggest this, and I dont know the downside really. It would also really increase the value of draft pick trading for those mid lower tier teams. They could get better faster and not stuck in mediocrity. They could either get a good pick or have a valuable tradeable asset.



    The incentive to tank would be minimal. Making the playoffs gets your franchise money, missing the playoffs you have just as good a chance at the number 1 pick under my suggestion. It wouldnt lead to much imbalance, because lets face it. If you cant make the playoffs in the nba you arent very good and a number 1 pick would be needed on any of those teams.

     
  • My wish list for the rockets would be for us to upgrade ariza to paul george. Have that second star and then just focus on getting some bench big or two. Id prefer not sacrificing ryan anderson to make this happen, because that would create a PF hole, but anderson makes so much money. Its hard to do anything without andersons contract gone.

  • Originally posted by: quest4nes



    I seriously think the nba should make all non playoff teams equal lottery chances. It would prevent extreme tanking, and let different citys get good young players. Ive never heard anyone suggest this, and I dont know the downside really.



    It needs to be as structured as possible so the entire industry of writers and analysts can essentially know what is basically going to happen and therefore appear wise and sure on camera to justify their job. Why if it was random and fair, it would be MADNESS!

  • Originally posted by: Trj22487




    Originally posted by: quest4nes



    I seriously think the nba should make all non playoff teams equal lottery chances. It would prevent extreme tanking, and let different citys get good young players. Ive never heard anyone suggest this, and I dont know the downside really.



    It needs to be as structured as possible so the entire industry of writers and analysts can essentially know what is basically going to happen and therefore appear wise and sure on camera to justify their job. Why if it was random and fair, it would be MADNESS!





    Well then you are going to continue to get tanking and itll still be an issue. The not knowing would keep teams honest about trying to make the playoffs and win and provide the best product.  The anticipation for the draft order would be a must see nba fan tv event as well.
  • Maybe the logic is that teams in the middle of the pack would be intentionally fighting to be the 9th or 10th seed instead of even making the playoffs at all as a 7th or 8th seed.
  • Can someone just hit the simulation button for these two series and get to the finals?
  • Originally posted by: Trj22487



    Maybe the logic is that teams in the middle of the pack would be intentionally fighting to be the 9th or 10th seed instead of even making the playoffs at all as a 7th or 8th seed.



    all owners and gms would want the 7th or 8 seed playoffs and get that playoff money. 



    at that point theyd still probably get a 15th-17th pick. Which is close to where theyd be anyway under the current system.
  • Originally posted by: quest4nes





    I seriously think the nba should make all non playoff teams equal lottery chances. It would prevent extreme tanking, and let different citys get good young players. Ive never heard anyone suggest this, and I dont know the downside really. It would also really increase the value of draft pick trading for those mid lower tier teams. They could get better faster and not stuck in mediocrity. They could either get a good pick or have a valuable tradeable asset.



    The incentive to tank would be minimal. Making the playoffs gets your franchise money, missing the playoffs you have just as good a chance at the number 1 pick under my suggestion. It wouldnt lead to much imbalance, because lets face it. If you cant make the playoffs in the nba you arent very good and a number 1 pick would be needed on any of those teams.

     

    That was how the original lottery was conducted, each team had one envelope.   I get your preventing tanking arguement, but how would it 'let different citiys get good young players'?  It would be just as random as it is now, except for the really bad teams would have much less hope of turning it around.  If you are the worst team and end up with the 14th pick, that team is f'd.  Which is what would happen to the timberwolves evert single year.



    As it is now, the worst team only gets a 25% chance at the #1.  Teams still tank because 25% is still a better shot than the other teams, but if the truly bad teams didn't have a shot at the better players it could take years and years for them to turn it around. 



     
  • Originally posted by: B.A.

     
    Originally posted by: quest4nes





    I seriously think the nba should make all non playoff teams equal lottery chances. It would prevent extreme tanking, and let different citys get good young players. Ive never heard anyone suggest this, and I dont know the downside really. It would also really increase the value of draft pick trading for those mid lower tier teams. They could get better faster and not stuck in mediocrity. They could either get a good pick or have a valuable tradeable asset.



    The incentive to tank would be minimal. Making the playoffs gets your franchise money, missing the playoffs you have just as good a chance at the number 1 pick under my suggestion. It wouldnt lead to much imbalance, because lets face it. If you cant make the playoffs in the nba you arent very good and a number 1 pick would be needed on any of those teams.

     

    That was how the original lottery was conducted, each team had one envelope.   I get your preventing tanking arguement, but how would it 'let different citiys get good young players'?  It would be just as random as it is now, except for the really bad teams would have much less hope of turning it around.  If you are the worst team and end up with the 14th pick, that team is f'd.  Which is what would happen to the timberwolves evert single year.



    As it is now, the worst team only gets a 25% chance at the #1.  Teams still tank because 25% is still a better shot than the other teams, but if the truly bad teams didn't have a shot at the better players it could take years and years for them to turn it around. 



     





    All that matters is usually a top 5 pick anyway. So the bottom 5-10 teams tank hard to outlose each other. Tanking is the nbas biggest problem with the lottery system and the reason the nba would want to change it. If a bad team got 14th so be it. Draft a young talented player at 14. There still is talent there. 76ers got loaded with picks and they are barely any better if embiid cant play. They hit on basically 1 player with all those top picks. Yet to see what simmons can bring. Noel already traded. Okafor doesnt work in the nba now. 



    Timberwolves have had top picks after top picks. Those picks have turned out ok. Towns is a monster. Team still sucks and hasnt really improved that much. Lottery is overrated. You can pick good players wherever you draft if you have people that know what the hell they are doing in the front office. All non playoff teams suck and if one team got screwed in the lottery another team that is stuck would get a chance. It would be much more entertaining and improve quality of play in the nba. 



    Teams would be playing to win because where they finish doesnt matter.
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