It was disappointing, but fanboys gonna fanboy since they just gobble up the fan service and are mostly undiscerning to what they are looking at. It's not terrible, but it's hardly great.
All of the characters were disposable (literally) at best and they did a piss poor job with the main character's relationship with her father. Forest Whitaker's character was a fucking joke, why even put that nonsensical sideplot of crap in there? Can you say re-shoot?
The best scene in the entire movie is where Cassian (sp?) opens up about his past for like 10 seconds. But at that point it's too little, too late to really make me care about any of it beyond watching shit blow up really good.
On that note, the battle scenes were pretty good, and the bad guy was decent enough, but it's not enough to make up for all the shortcomings, not even fucking close.
Verdict: 6/10 - Too many characters we don't care about, too much needless fan service. Great battle scenes, probably the best they've done since Return of the Jedi.
It was disappointing, but fanboys gonna fanboy since they just gobble up the fan service and are mostly undiscerning to what they are looking at. It's not terrible, but it's hardly great.
All of the characters were disposable (literally) at best and they did a piss poor job with the main character's relationship with her father. Forest Whitaker's character was a fucking joke, why even put that nonsensical sideplot of crap in there? Can you say re-shoot?
The best scene in the entire movie is where Cassian (sp?) opens up about his past for like 10 seconds. But at that point it's too little, too late to really make me care about any of it beyond watching shit blow up really good.
On that note, the battle scenes were pretty good, and the bad guy was decent enough, but it's not enough to make up for all the shortcomings, not even fucking close.
Verdict: 6/10 - Too many characters we don't care about, too much needless fan service. Great battle scenes, probably the best they've done since Return of the Jedi.
I hear what you're saying but to me this is one tied with ANH as my second-favorite SW film. ESB is #1, and it always has been for me, even when I was a kid before I knew that everyone thinks ESB is #1. That one is just a really good film.
The problem with the SW franchise is that most of the movies are weak in story but innovative in SFX. I mean, look at ANH... not exactly a groundbreaking story. It's much akin to old stories of riding off to save a princess or going on some other medieval quest but this time the stakes are a little higher and it's set in space.
BUT George Lucas was a master of 70's era SFX and for the first time, he made the universe feel "real" and somewhat believable which hadn't happened before within this specific genre. I mean, I even remember seeing the re-release of the trilogy in late-90's. Watching ANH and seeing the Star Destroyer crawl across the screen, chasing the Tantive IV game me chills. It was what I hoped it would be!
Rogue One could have been lower on my list but I never connected with any of the prequels. They were often either to annoying or to "busy" to make much sense. The Force Awakens was just ok. I mean, it was fun and I enjoyed the ride, but there were just soooooo many throwbacks that it completely sacrificed the plot... which was, as we know, way to similar to ANH. There isn't any princess-saving, but we are working to destroy a mega-weapon. Puhleeeez, give us something new! Well, that's what Rogue One was.
Rogue One managed to slip up to the top of my list because inspite of it's shortcomings it was a fresh story (well, for SW standards) that connected some of the missing pieces leading up to ANH. Also, I don't know how others feel about this plot-point but I actually did greatly appreciate that Orso as a sole-acting rebel put the vent shaft into the design of the Death Star. Fans of the series have mocked that design choice for decades because it seems like such an obvious design flaw. Now we know that it was a design flaw intentionally put there with the intent of hopefully being exploited. A little far reaching, but what in SW isn't? I thought it was a good in-universe retcon, if it can even be called a retcon.
This is completely off topic but I re-watched the original trilogy and I forgot how damn funny Han Solo is. I always assumed thought of the droids as the funniest characters but man, I was laughing my ass off. You could use a good kiss!
I just want to say that every now and then, when a woman you love tells you "I love you", it is appropriate to respond with "I know."
The problem with the SW franchise is that most of the movies are weak in story but innovative in SFX. I mean, look at ANH... not exactly a groundbreaking story. It's much akin to old stories of riding off to save a princess or going on some other medieval quest but this time the stakes are a little higher and it's set in space.
Funny you mentioned that. ANH lifted most of its plot from a Japanese film, "The Hidden Fortress". ^^
Still, rescuing a princess from an 'evil domain' is a pretty standard plot in itself.
I'm apparently the only one in the world galaxy who was disappointed.
Ah well.
Finally saw it Saturday night. I was watching waiting for it to get good, then eventually waiting for it to be over. Not bad, but I don't really plan to watch it again. I guess Episode VII set the bar high and this one wasn't as good imo. I guess I'll give it another shot in a few months. It would be nice to have another Star Wars movie in the rotation since I didn't care for Episode II or III at all. I really didn't like the computer generated characters at all. I wish they would have left those out or changed to different characters.
I finally saw Rogue One myself last week. The beginning of the film (the first half or so) was pretty weak for me. The battle at the end did lift up my spirits a bit and I thought it had some fun moments.
I too saw Rogue One for the first time not long ago and was just kinda "meh" about the whole thing. I didn't think it was bad but I didn't care for any of the characters, the story was kind of confusing, at least at first. It just didn't feel like a Star Wars movie most of the time. The tie-ins were cool with Vader and Moff Tarkin (tho the CGI was kind of...weird). Overall not terrible but not of Ep 3-7 caliber IMO.
I didn't like Episodes 1 and 2. 3 was decent but not fantastic.
7 got as much wrong as it got right, so it left me with a very divided feeling.
But then there's Rogue One. I'll be damned if it's not the fourth best Star Wars film yet. Either in there with the trilogy or right behind it.
It would be the third best right behind Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back, but there were a few jarring things.
1. The CGI face of you-know-who (not Tarkin) looked absolutely horrible on close-up. They shouldn't have gone full screen, should have kept it to the side or something, because it was very convincing until DERP LOOK AT MAH FACE EXTREMELY UP CLOSE! They should know the limitations of their technology instead of slapping our face with a vote of overconfidence. I imagine over the years people will remaster it until it doesn't look like ass. But for now, it looks like ass. What's weird is they handled Tarkin really well and I actually couldn't tell he was CG until near the end.
2. Some of the levity went too far. I would love to see this movie the way it was meant to be before Disney got ahold of it on the cutting room floor, refilmed a ludicrous number of scenes, and added in the jokey jokes. Granted, most of the jokes were better delivered than anything in episode 7, but if they could have lampshaded just a few of the scenes a touch more, the movie would've been pitch-perfect.
3. It was hard to take Forest Whitaker seriously.
But aside from a few minor complaints, wow! I thoroughly enjoyed the slow moving but clever plot. I enjoyed hearing a Star Wars story starring characters--that aren't Superman Jedis--who are genuinely afraid of Storm Trooper laserfire. It managed to capture the feeling of the original trilogy far more often than 7 or 1-3 did. I was very happy with it.
Yeah, I feel like it was about as 'Star Wars' as you can get. To me, it fit right in alongside Empire. I also think it should have had a more serious tone throughout. I don't know what it is with them wanting to do these weird out of place jokes in the new set of movies. There was humor in the originals, but it just kind of fit in. I still think Finn's jokes were the most jarring, though.
Yeah, I feel like it was about as 'Star Wars' as you can get. To me, it fit right in alongside Empire. I also think it should have had a more serious tone throughout. I don't know what it is with them wanting to do these weird out of place jokes in the new set of movies. There was humor in the originals, but it just kind of fit in. I still think Finn's jokes were the most jarring, though.
Yeah, I feel like it was about as 'Star Wars' as you can get. To me, it fit right in alongside Empire. I also think it should have had a more serious tone throughout. I don't know what it is with them wanting to do these weird out of place jokes in the new set of movies. There was humor in the originals, but it just kind of fit in. I still think Finn's jokes were the most jarring, though.
100% agree
Other than the 1 boyfriend joke which was kind of weird, I 100% disagree. I thought the humor was great and right in line with star wars. IN rogue one the humor I dont remember being bad? It was mainly K2SO and I thought that humor was great
also in rogue one i didnt find the cgi jarring at all. Leia was actually way better than tarkin. If you watch on a normal tv you really dont even notice. Atleast I didnt. It was very very very well done imo. I think people know its coming and have formed their opinion already and are ready to hate. Now tarkin has a couple moments when he is talking and its not that dark that he looks like a ps4 cut scene. But there are other times where its crazy good.
Either way , they didnt take me out of the movie at all. I think its a major overreaction so people can just hate on something.
The problem with Rogue One was not developing characters enough to care about half of them. They should have cut back the characters to a smaller number. Forrest Whitaker SPOILER ALERT should not have been taken out like that. WTF was that? Seems like they just cut his character for no reason. Also I think getting the plans should have been more involved spy wise.
I liked the movie. But I liked Force Awakens more.
Yeah, I feel like it was about as 'Star Wars' as you can get. To me, it fit right in alongside Empire. I also think it should have had a more serious tone throughout. I don't know what it is with them wanting to do these weird out of place jokes in the new set of movies. There was humor in the originals, but it just kind of fit in. I still think Finn's jokes were the most jarring, though.
100% agree
Other than the 1 boyfriend joke which was kind of weird, I 100% disagree. I thought the humor was great and right in line with star wars. IN rogue one the humor I dont remember being bad? It was mainly K2SO and I thought that humor was great
also in rogue one i didnt find the cgi jarring at all. Leia was actually way better than tarkin. If you watch on a normal tv you really dont even notice. Atleast I didnt. It was very very very well done imo. I think people know its coming and have formed their opinion already and are ready to hate. Now tarkin has a couple moments when he is talking and its not that dark that he looks like a ps4 cut scene. But there are other times where its crazy good.
Either way , they didnt take me out of the movie at all. I think its a major overreaction so people can just hate on something.
The problem with Rogue One was not developing characters enough to care about half of them. They should have cut back the characters to a smaller number. Forrest Whitaker SPOILER ALERT should not have been taken out like that. WTF was that? Seems like they just cut his character for no reason. Also I think getting the plans should have been more involved spy wise.
I liked the movie. But I liked Force Awakens more.
I'm not parroting other people's overreactions. I literally watched the movie a few months ago on my small screen TV, and these are my uninformed, unbiased take-a-ways. Never read a review, never really read other people's reactions (except for a few in this thread). However like I said I really enjoyed the movie. So I'm not bandwagon jumping here.
I don't want to mislead you into thinking I though poorly of episode 7, either. I liked that, too, though I'm not sure if I like it more or less than episode 3. They were both very good for one reason or another.
Summary -
-Small TV
-Gran Moff Tarkin - Looked damn good to me nearly the whole movie.
-Leia - Looked damn good! Like, for a few moments I thought they actually remastered some found footage of her or something ... That is, until they blew the illusion on the very last shot with her Shrek-like fullscreen facial expression and her artificial teary eyes.
-Episode 7 - Didn't like it as much as Rogue One, but that doesn't mean I didn't like it.
Yeah, I feel like it was about as 'Star Wars' as you can get. To me, it fit right in alongside Empire. I also think it should have had a more serious tone throughout. I don't know what it is with them wanting to do these weird out of place jokes in the new set of movies. There was humor in the originals, but it just kind of fit in. I still think Finn's jokes were the most jarring, though.
100% agree
Other than the 1 boyfriend joke which was kind of weird, I 100% disagree. I thought the humor was great and right in line with star wars. IN rogue one the humor I dont remember being bad? It was mainly K2SO and I thought that humor was great
also in rogue one i didnt find the cgi jarring at all. Leia was actually way better than tarkin. If you watch on a normal tv you really dont even notice. Atleast I didnt. It was very very very well done imo. I think people know its coming and have formed their opinion already and are ready to hate. Now tarkin has a couple moments when he is talking and its not that dark that he looks like a ps4 cut scene. But there are other times where its crazy good.
Either way , they didnt take me out of the movie at all. I think its a major overreaction so people can just hate on something.
The problem with Rogue One was not developing characters enough to care about half of them. They should have cut back the characters to a smaller number. Forrest Whitaker SPOILER ALERT should not have been taken out like that. WTF was that? Seems like they just cut his character for no reason. Also I think getting the plans should have been more involved spy wise.
I liked the movie. But I liked Force Awakens more.
I'll agree with you on one thing and disagree with you on one. I made a point of not watching or reading anything about this movie before I saw it. I just wanted to take it in as it was and hopefully love it. I had no idea there were CGI characters in this movie before watching. It took me about 1 second to realise something wasn't right, and maybe a few more seconds to see that there was a CGI character. I tried to look past it but it did bother me. And was that one guy meant to be General Ackbar? I hope not. I would have preferred something similar to the original there if it was the same character.
Where I agree with you is that maybe they tried to do too much with the characters. In all honesty, I didn't really give a crap about any of them by the end of the movie. With VIII I'm excited to see what they do with Rey, Finn and Poe. With Rogue One SPOILER!!!! if any of them had survived, I wouldn't be on the edge of my seat wondering where they go from here.
I will give them props for breaking away from the mold with the other movies. I applaud it being more dark and also applaud it being summed up in one movie. I just didn't enjoy this one very much.
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I picture of people walking is enough said? Sorry, I don't get it.
Look closely...
Oh shit is that real? They snuck Jar Jar into this damn movie? haha
It's fake. 99% sure of it.
All of the characters were disposable (literally) at best and they did a piss poor job with the main character's relationship with her father. Forest Whitaker's character was a fucking joke, why even put that nonsensical sideplot of crap in there? Can you say re-shoot?
The best scene in the entire movie is where Cassian (sp?) opens up about his past for like 10 seconds. But at that point it's too little, too late to really make me care about any of it beyond watching shit blow up really good.
On that note, the battle scenes were pretty good, and the bad guy was decent enough, but it's not enough to make up for all the shortcomings, not even fucking close.
Verdict: 6/10 - Too many characters we don't care about, too much needless fan service. Great battle scenes, probably the best they've done since Return of the Jedi.
Oh shit is that real? They snuck Jar Jar into this damn movie? haha
It's fake. 99% sure of it.
Ah okay. That would have been pretty neat though.
It was disappointing, but fanboys gonna fanboy since they just gobble up the fan service and are mostly undiscerning to what they are looking at. It's not terrible, but it's hardly great.
All of the characters were disposable (literally) at best and they did a piss poor job with the main character's relationship with her father. Forest Whitaker's character was a fucking joke, why even put that nonsensical sideplot of crap in there? Can you say re-shoot?
The best scene in the entire movie is where Cassian (sp?) opens up about his past for like 10 seconds. But at that point it's too little, too late to really make me care about any of it beyond watching shit blow up really good.
On that note, the battle scenes were pretty good, and the bad guy was decent enough, but it's not enough to make up for all the shortcomings, not even fucking close.
Verdict: 6/10 - Too many characters we don't care about, too much needless fan service. Great battle scenes, probably the best they've done since Return of the Jedi.
I hear what you're saying but to me this is one tied with ANH as my second-favorite SW film. ESB is #1, and it always has been for me, even when I was a kid before I knew that everyone thinks ESB is #1. That one is just a really good film.
The problem with the SW franchise is that most of the movies are weak in story but innovative in SFX. I mean, look at ANH... not exactly a groundbreaking story. It's much akin to old stories of riding off to save a princess or going on some other medieval quest but this time the stakes are a little higher and it's set in space.
BUT George Lucas was a master of 70's era SFX and for the first time, he made the universe feel "real" and somewhat believable which hadn't happened before within this specific genre. I mean, I even remember seeing the re-release of the trilogy in late-90's. Watching ANH and seeing the Star Destroyer crawl across the screen, chasing the Tantive IV game me chills. It was what I hoped it would be!
Rogue One could have been lower on my list but I never connected with any of the prequels. They were often either to annoying or to "busy" to make much sense. The Force Awakens was just ok. I mean, it was fun and I enjoyed the ride, but there were just soooooo many throwbacks that it completely sacrificed the plot... which was, as we know, way to similar to ANH. There isn't any princess-saving, but we are working to destroy a mega-weapon. Puhleeeez, give us something new! Well, that's what Rogue One was.
Rogue One managed to slip up to the top of my list because inspite of it's shortcomings it was a fresh story (well, for SW standards) that connected some of the missing pieces leading up to ANH. Also, I don't know how others feel about this plot-point but I actually did greatly appreciate that Orso as a sole-acting rebel put the vent shaft into the design of the Death Star. Fans of the series have mocked that design choice for decades because it seems like such an obvious design flaw. Now we know that it was a design flaw intentionally put there with the intent of hopefully being exploited. A little far reaching, but what in SW isn't? I thought it was a good in-universe retcon, if it can even be called a retcon.
This is completely off topic but I re-watched the original trilogy and I forgot how damn funny Han Solo is. I always assumed thought of the droids as the funniest characters but man, I was laughing my ass off. You could use a good kiss!
I just want to say that every now and then, when a woman you love tells you "I love you", it is appropriate to respond with "I know."
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Woohoo, 600th post!
The problem with the SW franchise is that most of the movies are weak in story but innovative in SFX. I mean, look at ANH... not exactly a groundbreaking story. It's much akin to old stories of riding off to save a princess or going on some other medieval quest but this time the stakes are a little higher and it's set in space.
Funny you mentioned that. ANH lifted most of its plot from a Japanese film, "The Hidden Fortress". ^^
Still, rescuing a princess from an 'evil domain' is a pretty standard plot in itself.
I'm apparently the only one in the world galaxy who was disappointed.
Ah well.
Finally saw it Saturday night. I was watching waiting for it to get good, then eventually waiting for it to be over. Not bad, but I don't really plan to watch it again. I guess Episode VII set the bar high and this one wasn't as good imo. I guess I'll give it another shot in a few months. It would be nice to have another Star Wars movie in the rotation since I didn't care for Episode II or III at all. I really didn't like the computer generated characters at all. I wish they would have left those out or changed to different characters.
I didn't like Episodes 1 and 2. 3 was decent but not fantastic.
7 got as much wrong as it got right, so it left me with a very divided feeling.
But then there's Rogue One. I'll be damned if it's not the fourth best Star Wars film yet. Either in there with the trilogy or right behind it.
It would be the third best right behind Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back, but there were a few jarring things.
1. The CGI face of you-know-who (not Tarkin) looked absolutely horrible on close-up. They shouldn't have gone full screen, should have kept it to the side or something, because it was very convincing until DERP LOOK AT MAH FACE EXTREMELY UP CLOSE! They should know the limitations of their technology instead of slapping our face with a vote of overconfidence. I imagine over the years people will remaster it until it doesn't look like ass. But for now, it looks like ass. What's weird is they handled Tarkin really well and I actually couldn't tell he was CG until near the end.
2. Some of the levity went too far. I would love to see this movie the way it was meant to be before Disney got ahold of it on the cutting room floor, refilmed a ludicrous number of scenes, and added in the jokey jokes. Granted, most of the jokes were better delivered than anything in episode 7, but if they could have lampshaded just a few of the scenes a touch more, the movie would've been pitch-perfect.
3. It was hard to take Forest Whitaker seriously.
But aside from a few minor complaints, wow! I thoroughly enjoyed the slow moving but clever plot. I enjoyed hearing a Star Wars story starring characters--that aren't Superman Jedis--who are genuinely afraid of Storm Trooper laserfire. It managed to capture the feeling of the original trilogy far more often than 7 or 1-3 did. I was very happy with it.
Yeah, I feel like it was about as 'Star Wars' as you can get. To me, it fit right in alongside Empire. I also think it should have had a more serious tone throughout. I don't know what it is with them wanting to do these weird out of place jokes in the new set of movies. There was humor in the originals, but it just kind of fit in. I still think Finn's jokes were the most jarring, though.
100% agree
3. It was hard to take Forest Whitaker seriously.
Try watching "Ghost Dog"...
Yeah, I feel like it was about as 'Star Wars' as you can get. To me, it fit right in alongside Empire. I also think it should have had a more serious tone throughout. I don't know what it is with them wanting to do these weird out of place jokes in the new set of movies. There was humor in the originals, but it just kind of fit in. I still think Finn's jokes were the most jarring, though.
100% agree
Other than the 1 boyfriend joke which was kind of weird, I 100% disagree. I thought the humor was great and right in line with star wars. IN rogue one the humor I dont remember being bad? It was mainly K2SO and I thought that humor was great
also in rogue one i didnt find the cgi jarring at all. Leia was actually way better than tarkin. If you watch on a normal tv you really dont even notice. Atleast I didnt. It was very very very well done imo. I think people know its coming and have formed their opinion already and are ready to hate. Now tarkin has a couple moments when he is talking and its not that dark that he looks like a ps4 cut scene. But there are other times where its crazy good.
Either way , they didnt take me out of the movie at all. I think its a major overreaction so people can just hate on something.
The problem with Rogue One was not developing characters enough to care about half of them. They should have cut back the characters to a smaller number. Forrest Whitaker SPOILER ALERT should not have been taken out like that. WTF was that? Seems like they just cut his character for no reason. Also I think getting the plans should have been more involved spy wise.
I liked the movie. But I liked Force Awakens more.
Yeah, I feel like it was about as 'Star Wars' as you can get. To me, it fit right in alongside Empire. I also think it should have had a more serious tone throughout. I don't know what it is with them wanting to do these weird out of place jokes in the new set of movies. There was humor in the originals, but it just kind of fit in. I still think Finn's jokes were the most jarring, though.
100% agree
Other than the 1 boyfriend joke which was kind of weird, I 100% disagree. I thought the humor was great and right in line with star wars. IN rogue one the humor I dont remember being bad? It was mainly K2SO and I thought that humor was great
also in rogue one i didnt find the cgi jarring at all. Leia was actually way better than tarkin. If you watch on a normal tv you really dont even notice. Atleast I didnt. It was very very very well done imo. I think people know its coming and have formed their opinion already and are ready to hate. Now tarkin has a couple moments when he is talking and its not that dark that he looks like a ps4 cut scene. But there are other times where its crazy good.
Either way , they didnt take me out of the movie at all. I think its a major overreaction so people can just hate on something.
The problem with Rogue One was not developing characters enough to care about half of them. They should have cut back the characters to a smaller number. Forrest Whitaker SPOILER ALERT should not have been taken out like that. WTF was that? Seems like they just cut his character for no reason. Also I think getting the plans should have been more involved spy wise.
I liked the movie. But I liked Force Awakens more.
I'm not parroting other people's overreactions. I literally watched the movie a few months ago on my small screen TV, and these are my uninformed, unbiased take-a-ways. Never read a review, never really read other people's reactions (except for a few in this thread). However like I said I really enjoyed the movie. So I'm not bandwagon jumping here.
I don't want to mislead you into thinking I though poorly of episode 7, either. I liked that, too, though I'm not sure if I like it more or less than episode 3. They were both very good for one reason or another.
Summary -
-Small TV
-Gran Moff Tarkin - Looked damn good to me nearly the whole movie.
-Leia - Looked damn good! Like, for a few moments I thought they actually remastered some found footage of her or something ... That is, until they blew the illusion on the very last shot with her Shrek-like fullscreen facial expression and her artificial teary eyes.
-Episode 7 - Didn't like it as much as Rogue One, but that doesn't mean I didn't like it.
Yeah, I feel like it was about as 'Star Wars' as you can get. To me, it fit right in alongside Empire. I also think it should have had a more serious tone throughout. I don't know what it is with them wanting to do these weird out of place jokes in the new set of movies. There was humor in the originals, but it just kind of fit in. I still think Finn's jokes were the most jarring, though.
100% agree
Other than the 1 boyfriend joke which was kind of weird, I 100% disagree. I thought the humor was great and right in line with star wars. IN rogue one the humor I dont remember being bad? It was mainly K2SO and I thought that humor was great
also in rogue one i didnt find the cgi jarring at all. Leia was actually way better than tarkin. If you watch on a normal tv you really dont even notice. Atleast I didnt. It was very very very well done imo. I think people know its coming and have formed their opinion already and are ready to hate. Now tarkin has a couple moments when he is talking and its not that dark that he looks like a ps4 cut scene. But there are other times where its crazy good.
Either way , they didnt take me out of the movie at all. I think its a major overreaction so people can just hate on something.
The problem with Rogue One was not developing characters enough to care about half of them. They should have cut back the characters to a smaller number. Forrest Whitaker SPOILER ALERT should not have been taken out like that. WTF was that? Seems like they just cut his character for no reason. Also I think getting the plans should have been more involved spy wise.
I liked the movie. But I liked Force Awakens more.
I'll agree with you on one thing and disagree with you on one. I made a point of not watching or reading anything about this movie before I saw it. I just wanted to take it in as it was and hopefully love it. I had no idea there were CGI characters in this movie before watching. It took me about 1 second to realise something wasn't right, and maybe a few more seconds to see that there was a CGI character. I tried to look past it but it did bother me. And was that one guy meant to be General Ackbar? I hope not. I would have preferred something similar to the original there if it was the same character.
Where I agree with you is that maybe they tried to do too much with the characters. In all honesty, I didn't really give a crap about any of them by the end of the movie. With VIII I'm excited to see what they do with Rey, Finn and Poe. With Rogue One SPOILER!!!! if any of them had survived, I wouldn't be on the edge of my seat wondering where they go from here.
I will give them props for breaking away from the mold with the other movies. I applaud it being more dark and also applaud it being summed up in one movie. I just didn't enjoy this one very much.