The thing that I don't understand, as a white male, is why people don't lobby for men's rights, make a big deal for them, etc. If true equality is what is trying to be achieved, then I think it should work in both ways...
I work in Taiwan, Taiwan is hot all year around. Even now, it is hot. During the summers, sometimes I sweat so bad that my thighs get chafed, even wearing shorts. I always bring an extra shirt if I go on a date, so that I have something fresh to change into. What is my point to this? One time, I had been reprimanded for wearing shorts to work (I teach at a school), since they wouldn't turn the air conditioner on in the morning, and the heat would make me sometimes feel sick. But the local women working there, they could wear short shorts exposing their whole legs, just because they were women! When I lived in the States, there was a similar situation at the National Park visitor center in Gettysburg. Men could only wear pants, but women could wear skirts, maybe even some dressy shorts. One of my colleagues eventually wore a kilt to prove a point.
And what about things like nail polish, etc. I am not a feminine man and am straight, but would gladly wear some darker nail polish from time to time, why not be able to paint your body and let creativity flow? But if I did that in many places, I would be laughed at and possibly even fired from my job....and for what reason? Women can wear dresses, skirts and slacks, can wear neck ties and sport coats, etc. If we look at how clothes evolved, many of the "female" clothes used to apply to both genders. And by now women have free range to wear basically anything, but men are quite limited in comparison, with very few daring to break the code and chance being made fun of. But we then bitch about something trivial as whether the main character in a game is a man or a woman? It just doesn't make sense to me.
You make a valid point. Women can wear pants; why can't men wear dresses?
As for your groin rash issue, it is a common problem. I get that too. Put some talc-based body powder in your briefs every morning. I used Gold Bond Triple Action Body Powder, but baby powder or whatever brands they sell in Taiwan will also work. Your junk won't chafe, and will feel cool and tingly all day...
So Super Mario Run is sexist and is calling Nintendo out in that fashion. Did the editor of this article ever once play a Mario game before this app? Because we have a huge bevy of sports, party, racing, and puzzle games that not only feature Peach, Toadette, Daisy, Birdo (whom is apparently transgendered), Rosealina and hell we even have infant variants of certain female characters all of which are playable characters. Then we have Super Mario Bros. 2, Super Mario 3D Land/ World and Super Princess Peach, all of which are platform games with playable female characters. If anything else the Mario series is a series that caters heavily to both genders and anyone finding something sexist about it has to REALLY find something to nitpick about.
"Mario" is a man, and his name is in the game title. That alone is enough to get people offended. And despite "Zelda" being a woman, you play as a boy named Link so the entire Legend of Zelda series is equally offensive.
Due to the brilliant life's work of a certain Anita Sarkesian, we now have "tropes" that include every single video game that features male and/or female protagonists, and why said game is mysogynist and should be banned. And it makes little difference whether it's rated "E" or "M" or somewhere in between, if you are a male developer and you release a video game with protagonists or NPCs who posess identifiable genders, both you and your game will be labeled as mysogynist.
It is a little silly that Zelda barely does anything in "The Legend of Zelda" (series). I am completely willing to let that go in view of beginning from 1986 with an unknown future.
The NYT article is pretty ridiculous. SMB2 is given short shrift. Super Mario games are simple and follow a non-serious formula.
The world is sexist. Women and people of color need more representation in all media. It would be nice if women and people of color were more welcome in industry to provide it. Some progress has happened but the journey must continue. Barriers do exist. Advocation from men/whites is good.
"Sitting normally" on the train isn't cool when it's taking more space than your fair share, regardless of whether that's normal to you.
Men can wear dresses or skirts or high heels. It's mainly other men who pressure them not to. Why is that? Can males advocate for fashion rights in a male-dominated world? tracker I would appreciate if you could leave feedback for our transaction.
So Super Mario Run is sexist and is calling Nintendo out in that fashion. Did the editor of this article ever once play a Mario game before this app? Because we have a huge bevy of sports, party, racing, and puzzle games that not only feature Peach, Toadette, Daisy, Birdo (whom is apparently transgendered), Rosealina and hell we even have infant variants of certain female characters all of which are playable characters. Then we have Super Mario Bros. 2, Super Mario 3D Land/ World and Super Princess Peach, all of which are platform games with playable female characters. If anything else the Mario series is a series that caters heavily to both genders and anyone finding something sexist about it has to REALLY find something to nitpick about.
"Mario" is a man, and his name is in the game title. That alone is enough to get people offended. And despite "Zelda" being a woman, you play as a boy named Link so the entire Legend of Zelda series is equally offensive.
Due to the brilliant life's work of a certain Anita Sarkesian, we now have "tropes" that include every single video game that features male and/or female protagonists, and why said game is mysogynist and should be banned. And it makes little difference whether it's rated "E" or "M" or somewhere in between, if you are a male developer and you release a video game with protagonists or NPCs who posess identifiable genders, both you and your game will be labeled as mysogynist.
Even though this is a very much progressive series people on the internet will still have something to bitch about. (i.e. The levels are too hard. The Goombas represent erectile disfunction. Mario is a furry because of the tanooki suit.) The stupidity never ends.
Originally posted by: Kosmic StarDust if you are a male developer and you release a video game with protagonists or NPCs who posess identifiable genders, both you and your game will be labeled as mysogynist.
OK so I'm not saying progressives are never over-the-top (NYT article case in point as I said earlier) but can you point me to some more extreme examples where it's really unreasoned and people really buy into it? I hate to see what causes a backlash,but I want to be aware of idiocy no matter where it exists.
It is a little silly that Zelda barely does anything in "The Legend of Zelda" (series). I am completely willing to let that go in view of beginning from 1986 with an unknown future.
The NYT article is pretty ridiculous. SMB2 is given short shrift. Super Mario games are simple and follow a non-serious formula.
The world is sexist. Women and people of color need more representation in all media. It would be nice if women and people of color were more welcome in industry to provide it. Some progress has happened but the journey must continue. Barriers do exist. Advocation from men/whites is good.
"Sitting normally" on the train isn't cool when it's taking more space than your fair share, regardless of whether that's normal to you.
Men can wear dresses or skirts or high heels. It's mainly other men who pressure them not to. Why is that? Can males advocate for fashion rights in a male-dominated world? tracker I would appreciate if you could leave feedback for our transaction.
Alright, I'll get on it mate. I always have felt that reputation from word of mouth / posts is more important than physical feedback (I never bother checking feedback before entering into transactions), so it just isn't a priority of mine to leave it either. But I'll do it for ya.
Originally posted by: Kosmic StarDust if you are a male developer and you release a video game with protagonists or NPCs who posess identifiable genders, both you and your game will be labeled as mysogynist.
OK so I'm not saying progressives are never over-the-top (NYT article case in point as I said earlier) but can you point me to some more extreme examples where it's really unreasoned and people really buy into it? I hate to see what causes a backlash,but I want to be aware of idiocy no matter where it exists.
See 1:30:
Just another example. It's down-right constant from this woman and everyone who follows her. She tries to point out a contradiction in how men vs. women are presented but even her cherry-picked witch hunt examples are often 100% wrong/misleading. It's a shameless, deliberate, distortion of reality to suit her agenda.
Originally posted by: gunpei
It is a little silly that Zelda barely does anything in "The Legend of Zelda" (series). I am completely willing to let that go in view of beginning from 1986 with an unknown future.
The NYT article is pretty ridiculous. SMB2 is given short shrift. Super Mario games are simple and follow a non-serious formula.
The world is sexist. Women and people of color need more representation in all media. It would be nice if women and people of color were more welcome in industry to provide it. Some progress has happened but the journey must continue. Barriers do exist. Advocation from men/whites is good.
"Sitting normally" on the train isn't cool when it's taking more space than your fair share, regardless of whether that's normal to you.
Men can wear dresses or skirts or high heels. It's mainly other men who pressure them not to. Why is that? Can males advocate for fashion rights in a male-dominated world? tracker I would appreciate if you could leave feedback for our transaction.
"Never does anything?" She resisted Ganon and intelligently broke up the triforce to hide it from him in the first game. She telepathically resisted Agahnim to get help for the other maidens in the third game and destroyed the barrier to Gannon's stronghold with the other maidens. She got top-billing in the fourth game she wasn't even a part of. She immobilized Ganon and banished him to the Dark World in the fifth game while fighting him as a bada$$ ninja assassin in disguise through most of the game. She led a bunch of men (pirates) in the next major Zelda game as their superior (more than just an equal) and was an instrumental part of the events. I could go on, but I don't think I really have to.
Zelda has been taking heroic action since the very first game.
Originally posted by: Kosmic StarDust if you are a male developer and you release a video game with protagonists or NPCs who posess identifiable genders, both you and your game will be labeled as mysogynist.
OK so I'm not saying progressives are never over-the-top (NYT article case in point as I said earlier) but can you point me to some more extreme examples where it's really unreasoned and people really buy into it? I hate to see what causes a backlash,but I want to be aware of idiocy no matter where it exists.
Just another example. It's down-right constant from this woman and everyone who follows her. She tries to point out a contradiction in how men vs. women are presented but even her cherry-picked witch hunt examples are often 100% wrong/misleading. It's a shameless, deliberate, distortion of reality to suit her agenda.
Originally posted by: gunpei
It is a little silly that Zelda barely does anything in "The Legend of Zelda" (series). I am completely willing to let that go in view of beginning from 1986 with an unknown future.
The NYT article is pretty ridiculous. SMB2 is given short shrift. Super Mario games are simple and follow a non-serious formula.
The world is sexist. Women and people of color need more representation in all media. It would be nice if women and people of color were more welcome in industry to provide it. Some progress has happened but the journey must continue. Barriers do exist. Advocation from men/whites is good.
"Sitting normally" on the train isn't cool when it's taking more space than your fair share, regardless of whether that's normal to you.
Men can wear dresses or skirts or high heels. It's mainly other men who pressure them not to. Why is that? Can males advocate for fashion rights in a male-dominated world? tracker I would appreciate if you could leave feedback for our transaction.
"Never does anything?" She resisted Ganon and intelligently broke up the triforce to hide it from him in the first game. She telepathically resisted Agahnim to get help for the other maidens in the third game and destroyed the barrier to Gannon's stronghold with the other maidens. She got top-billing in the fourth game she wasn't even a part of. She immobilized Ganon and banished him to the Dark World in the fifth game while fighting him as a bada$$ ninja assassin in disguise through most of the game. She led a bunch of men (pirates) in the next major Zelda game as their superior (more than just an equal) and was an instrumental part of the events. I could go on, but I don't think I really have to.
Zelda has been taking heroic action since the very first game.
Nice. She is so full of herself. To be honest, I haven't been following her recent developments. I hope the feds revokes her non-profit status...
As for Princess Zelda, she always found ways to use her powers to help Link in games. Not just sit down role like Peach, "Mario I am helpless please come rescue me..." Though in SMB2, SMRPG, Super Paper Mario, SM 3D World, and yes, Super Princess Peach, she plays a more active roll as a playable character.
Originally posted by: Kosmic StarDust if you are a male developer and you release a video game with protagonists or NPCs who posess identifiable genders, both you and your game will be labeled as mysogynist.
OK so I'm not saying progressives are never over-the-top (NYT article case in point as I said earlier) but can you point me to some more extreme examples where it's really unreasoned and people really buy into it? I hate to see what causes a backlash,but I want to be aware of idiocy no matter where it exists.
Just another example. It's down-right constant from this woman and everyone who follows her. She tries to point out a contradiction in how men vs. women are presented but even her cherry-picked witch hunt examples are often 100% wrong/misleading. It's a shameless, deliberate, distortion of reality to suit her agenda.
Originally posted by: gunpei
It is a little silly that Zelda barely does anything in "The Legend of Zelda" (series). I am completely willing to let that go in view of beginning from 1986 with an unknown future.
The NYT article is pretty ridiculous. SMB2 is given short shrift. Super Mario games are simple and follow a non-serious formula.
The world is sexist. Women and people of color need more representation in all media. It would be nice if women and people of color were more welcome in industry to provide it. Some progress has happened but the journey must continue. Barriers do exist. Advocation from men/whites is good.
"Sitting normally" on the train isn't cool when it's taking more space than your fair share, regardless of whether that's normal to you.
Men can wear dresses or skirts or high heels. It's mainly other men who pressure them not to. Why is that? Can males advocate for fashion rights in a male-dominated world? tracker I would appreciate if you could leave feedback for our transaction.
"Never does anything?" She resisted Ganon and intelligently broke up the triforce to hide it from him in the first game. She telepathically resisted Agahnim to get help for the other maidens in the third game and destroyed the barrier to Gannon's stronghold with the other maidens. She got top-billing in the fourth game she wasn't even a part of. She immobilized Ganon and banished him to the Dark World in the fifth game while fighting him as a bada$$ ninja assassin in disguise through most of the game. She led a bunch of men (pirates) in the next major Zelda game as their superior (more than just an equal) and was an instrumental part of the events. I could go on, but I don't think I really have to.
Zelda has been taking heroic action since the very first game.
Nice. She is so full of herself. To be honest, I haven't been following her recent developments. I hope the feds revokes her non-profit status...
As for Princess Zelda, she always found ways to use her powers to help Link in games. Not just sit down role like Peach, "Mario I am helpless please come rescue me..." Though in SMB2, SMRPG, Super Paper Mario, SM 3D World, and yes, Super Princess Peach, she plays a more active roll as a playable character.
Not to mention, SMB3 was all just a stage play according to the creators (hence the curtains at the beginning and end). She wasn't really a damsel in distress there either. Even if it weren't a stage play, she doesn't get kidnapped until the very end and actively supports you with items and correspondence throughout the game.
Not to mention, SMB3 was all just a stage play according to the creators (hence the curtains at the beginning and end). She wasn't really a damsel in distress there either. Even if it weren't a stage play, she doesn't get kidnapped until the very end and actively supports you with items and correspondence throughout the game.
I don't buy the whole stageplay thing. SMB3 is very much canon. Compare that to SMB2 with completely different physics (because it never started life as a Mario game) which was revealed to be a dream at the end credits.
Not to mention, SMB3 was all just a stage play according to the creators (hence the curtains at the beginning and end). She wasn't really a damsel in distress there either. Even if it weren't a stage play, she doesn't get kidnapped until the very end and actively supports you with items and correspondence throughout the game.
I don't buy the whole stageplay thing. SMB3 is very much canon. Compare that to SMB2 with completely different physics (because it never started life as a Mario game) which was revealed to be a dream at the end credits.
...but was it canon as a stage play or canon as real events? I'm probably giving GameTheorists too much credit but their theory that she is a goddess does make some sense and may simply be lost in translation for us.
Not to mention, SMB3 was all just a stage play according to the creators (hence the curtains at the beginning and end). She wasn't really a damsel in distress there either. Even if it weren't a stage play, she doesn't get kidnapped until the very end and actively supports you with items and correspondence throughout the game.
I don't buy the whole stageplay thing. SMB3 is very much canon. Compare that to SMB2 with completely different physics (because it never started life as a Mario game) which was revealed to be a dream at the end credits.
...but was it canon as a stage play or canon as real events? I'm probably giving GameTheorists too much credit but their theory that she is a goddess does make some sense and may simply be lost in translation for us.
Zelda is a Goddess. Samus Aran is a bounty hunter. Rosalina is a cosmic sorceress. Peach is naught but a blonde bimbo who has an on again, off again fling with Bowser (Stockholm syndrome???), and cohorts with fungi people. Mario is just her patsy who she pretends to long for after each planned kidnapping. And what does Mario get as a reward? A kiss on the nose and some cake. It is literally a big game to her but Mario is too blind to see it. Luigi knows better though, which explains why we often see him sitting around in games like Paper Mario...
I've been reading way too much fan fiction, and trust me when I say that's the watered down PG version...
Mario's been around for 30-35 years (depending on whether you want to start with Super Mario Bros or Donkey Kong) and they're only just now bothered by all that? And can't the supposed "Newspaper of record" that proudly says on the top "All the News That's Fit to Print" find anything well, more fit to print? In the famous words of this guy here, give me a break
Yeah, New York Times is a failing rag for a reason. Heard they were down to 10% of what their prescription rate was in their heyday, and that they are downsizing, etc etc.
Mario's been around for 30-35 years (depending on whether you want to start with Super Mario Bros or Donkey Kong) and they're only just now bothered by all that? And can't the supposed "Newspaper of record" that proudly says on the top "All the News That's Fit to Print" find anything well, more fit to print? In the famous words of this guy here, give me a break
I see it like this: A true hero often teaches someone how NOT to be offended, rather than just complain. A true hero also doesn't ask or demand for anything in return.
The problem with that is you only normalize offensive behavior. If someone insults you or someone else or utters a slur and you say nothing, that person will come to believe that behavior is acceptable. Silence becomes consent.
Mario's been around for 30-35 years (depending on whether you want to start with Super Mario Bros or Donkey Kong) and they're only just now bothered by all that? And can't the supposed "Newspaper of record" that proudly says on the top "All the News That's Fit to Print" find anything well, more fit to print? In the famous words of this guy here, give me a break
Damn, Barbara Walters looked good back in the day. I love watching these old news articles; thanx 4 sharing!
Replace SMB2 and Adventures of Link with Amiibo and NES Classic Mini. Same company, same BS, different decade...
If it's the video I think it was then I thought it was interesting seeing that John Stossel already had a Libertarian attitude about certain issues even before he politically "converted" to Libertarianism. Live and let live, no imposing majority opinion/will on individuals, your personal freedoms as an individual only end where they infringe on someone else's, fantasy/imagination/thought crimes are not the same as action and should not be treated as actual violence (free-speech), etc.
Edit: Yep. That was it. Also cool to see them packing gold cartridges with the dust sleeves backwards so that the gold would show through the window.
I see it like this: A true hero often teaches someone how NOT to be offended, rather than just complain. A true hero also doesn't ask or demand for anything in return.
The problem with that is you only normalize offensive behavior. If someone insults you or someone else or utters a slur and you say nothing, that person will come to believe that behavior is acceptable. Silence becomes consent.
Never happened to me. When I was younger, I just ignored the ones who pestered me, and they just gave up because they couldn't get a reaction out of me. Just never give them the time of day, because in the end, it's not worth it. If I were to flip out, they wouldn't care, and continue to pester me because I'm giving them what they want.
I see it like this: A true hero often teaches someone how NOT to be offended, rather than just complain. A true hero also doesn't ask or demand for anything in return.
The problem with that is you only normalize offensive behavior. If someone insults you or someone else or utters a slur and you say nothing, that person will come to believe that behavior is acceptable. Silence becomes consent.
Never happened to me. When I was younger, I just ignored the ones who pestered me, and they just gave up because they couldn't get a reaction out of me. Just never give them the time of day, because in the end, it's not worth it. If I were to flip out, they wouldn't care, and continue to pester me because I'm giving them what they want.
No one says you have to flip out. Just make it known in no uncertain terms that that behavior is not acceptable.
More so important if you see someone treating someone else that way. Step up. If someone uses a racial, misogynistic, or homophobic slur, let them know that what they said is wrong.
There's a difference between being pestered and being bombarded with hate speech. The latter can't just be ignored.
It's not about being a social justice warrior, it is about doing what is right.
I see it like this: A true hero often teaches someone how NOT to be offended, rather than just complain. A true hero also doesn't ask or demand for anything in return.
The problem with that is you only normalize offensive behavior. If someone insults you or someone else or utters a slur and you say nothing, that person will come to believe that behavior is acceptable. Silence becomes consent.
Never happened to me. When I was younger, I just ignored the ones who pestered me, and they just gave up because they couldn't get a reaction out of me. Just never give them the time of day, because in the end, it's not worth it. If I were to flip out, they wouldn't care, and continue to pester me because I'm giving them what they want.
No one says you have to flip out. Just make it known in no uncertain terms that that behavior is not acceptable.
More so important if you see someone treating someone else that way. Step up. If someone uses a racial, misogynistic, or homophobic slur, let them know that what they said is wrong.
There's a difference between being pestered and being bombarded with hate speech. The latter can't just be ignored.
It's not about being a social justice warrior, it is about doing what is right.
Of course, if someone's being an ass, it's okay to step in and be a good Samaritan. But Hell, sticks and stones?
If someone calls me a name, hates on my gender, my ethnicity, or what ever, that's their right. Their opinion. Has nothing to do with me. I can give two shits simply because if they think that of me, then THEY'RE the asshole.
Of course, if someone's being an ass, it's okay to step in and be a good Samaritan. But Hell, sticks and stones?
If someone calls me a name, hates on my gender, my ethnicity, or what ever, that's their right. Their opinion. Has nothing to do with me. I can give two shits simply because if they think that of me, then THEY'RE the asshole.
I'm not going to presume to know your ethnicity or anything. But I do know that with women and minorities, it's not just some random asshole, it's something they face A LOT, almost every day, if not every day. It's not something you can just "shrug off" or learn not to be offended.
It's up to those of us who AREN'T offended to go after the assholes (not phyiscally, but to let them know it's not okay to be doing that), not teach the person being attacked to "get over it."
Sure, it's the right of the asshole to make those comments, but part of being in society is to exercise the right to let the asshole know that their speech is not acceptable in society, and that people want nothing to do with them if they continue. It's not about stifling the 1st amendment. They can continue to say what they want, but the rest of us also have the right to speak back to them. And over time, that hate speech will diminish. But if we do nothing, it emboldens them.
Of course, if someone's being an ass, it's okay to step in and be a good Samaritan. But Hell, sticks and stones?
If someone calls me a name, hates on my gender, my ethnicity, or what ever, that's their right. Their opinion. Has nothing to do with me. I can give two shits simply because if they think that of me, then THEY'RE the asshole.
I'm not going to presume to know your ethnicity or anything. But I do know that with women and minorities, it's not just some random asshole, it's something they face A LOT, almost every day, if not every day. It's not something you can just "shrug off" or learn not to be offended.
It's up to those of us who AREN'T offended to go after the assholes, not teach the person being attacked to "get over it."
Well as if the "bully" in question will always listen to reason. If we live in a perfect world were people will stop hating if you tell them, then we wouldn't have wars.
Well as if the "bully" in question will always listen to reason. If we live in a perfect world were people will stop hating if you tell them, then we wouldn't have wars.
If the majority of people they encounter shame them enough, they will.
What gives a bully their power is that they face someone weaker one on one, and no one else steps in. Someone else comes in, the bully tends to retreat. Do it enough times, and they'll stop it.
Well as if the "bully" in question will always listen to reason. If we live in a perfect world were people will stop hating if you tell them, then we wouldn't have wars.
If the majority of people they encounter shame them enough, they will.
What gives a bully their power is that they face someone weaker one on one, and no one else steps in. Someone else comes in, the bully tends to retreat. Do it enough times, and they'll stop it.
Oh nooo... not in my experience. I think I've attempted to talk to a bully (Who's also been told by other thrid partys to stop thier crap) once and got my ass kicked. lol
I dunno, but I may have grown up in a different world. Has anyone grown up in a very low class 90's public school in the south? Ever lived next to a drug addict? Ever dug through a couch to find change to get something to eat? Lost everything but the backs on their shirts? If anyone that even had it worse, people's bad words are the least on their minds.
If someone wants to hate, let them. Our forefathers and mothers fought and even died to give us a right to expression and freedom of speech, despite how good or vile it is. It is everyone's right. It's not up to me to tell what's right or wrong, especially to someone who doesn't care.
If someone hurts my feelings? Boo-fucking-hoo. Unless you've had a knife to your throat or a gun pointed to your face, words are the most trivial thing in the grand sceme or things.
The problem is that if you don't show that there is a limit for that shit they are pulling, they will keep stretching it further and further and then this happens:
They think their hatred is accepted by society, that they have power over you and you end up being stabbed.
Oh nooo... not in my experience. I think I've attempted to talk to a bully (Who's also been told by other thrid partys to stop thier crap) once and got my ass kicked. lol
I dunno, but I may have grown up in a different world. Has anyone grown up in a very low class 90's public school in the south? Never lived next to a drug addict? Ever dug through a couch to find change to get something to eat? Lost everything but the backs on their shirts? If anyone that even had it worse, people's bad words are the least on their minds.
If someone wants to hate, let them. Our forefathers and mothers fought and even died to give us a right to expression and freedom of speech, despite how good or vile it is. It is everyone's right. It's not up to me to tell what's right or wrong, especially to someone who doesn't care.
If someone hurts my feelings? Boo-fucking-hoo. Unless you've had a knife to your throat or a gun pointed to your face, words are the most trivial thing in the grand sceme or things.
I'm not saying that there aren't worse things that can happen in the world, or that you won't take your lumps standing up to a bully.
But letting them speak however they want, and saying its their right to do so (which, yes, technically is true) is just contributing to that kind of atititude and talk continuing perpetually. No one's saying the government should just arrest people from speaking their minds, far from it. But part of society is to let people know what is acceptable and what isn't. That's as much a part of freedom of speech as letting a hateful person spout off. If they're just ranting to the sky, sure, ignore them, but if they're actively attacking someone verbally who can't fight back, someone else needs to step in.
And it comes back to just because you've learned to accept an occasional bad word, it isn't the same as people who face it all the time. Maybe you have, and you've just grown numb. In which case, I think that's sad. But I'd be willing to bet you haven't faced the type of hate speech (or even more subtle forms of discrimination) that a lot of people face that just makes it seem like society is against them. That's where we need to let them know that society isn't against them, and that the hate speech isn't acceptable, and we'll stand with them against the hateful people.
It's never up to me to postulate what an attacker may feel. Some people just don't give a crap what you say, and nothing you can do will change their mind. It's not even up to me to tell them to stop, THEY'RE the ones who would want to stop. Same with drug addicts now that I think about it.
Look, if anyone's in deep crap, either walk away, or even talk to someone. Talking to a bully or whoever head on isn't the way to go. This is from experience. DO NOT engage in a fight unless you HAVE to. Fighting doesn't solve anything, but if your LIFE is on the line, then do it. Being called a name won't let you wake up the next day with swore muscles or broken bones.
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The thing that I don't understand, as a white male, is why people don't lobby for men's rights, make a big deal for them, etc. If true equality is what is trying to be achieved, then I think it should work in both ways...
I work in Taiwan, Taiwan is hot all year around. Even now, it is hot. During the summers, sometimes I sweat so bad that my thighs get chafed, even wearing shorts. I always bring an extra shirt if I go on a date, so that I have something fresh to change into. What is my point to this? One time, I had been reprimanded for wearing shorts to work (I teach at a school), since they wouldn't turn the air conditioner on in the morning, and the heat would make me sometimes feel sick. But the local women working there, they could wear short shorts exposing their whole legs, just because they were women! When I lived in the States, there was a similar situation at the National Park visitor center in Gettysburg. Men could only wear pants, but women could wear skirts, maybe even some dressy shorts. One of my colleagues eventually wore a kilt to prove a point.
And what about things like nail polish, etc. I am not a feminine man and am straight, but would gladly wear some darker nail polish from time to time, why not be able to paint your body and let creativity flow? But if I did that in many places, I would be laughed at and possibly even fired from my job....and for what reason? Women can wear dresses, skirts and slacks, can wear neck ties and sport coats, etc. If we look at how clothes evolved, many of the "female" clothes used to apply to both genders. And by now women have free range to wear basically anything, but men are quite limited in comparison, with very few daring to break the code and chance being made fun of. But we then bitch about something trivial as whether the main character in a game is a man or a woman? It just doesn't make sense to me.
You make a valid point. Women can wear pants; why can't men wear dresses?
As for your groin rash issue, it is a common problem. I get that too. Put some talc-based body powder in your briefs every morning. I used Gold Bond Triple Action Body Powder, but baby powder or whatever brands they sell in Taiwan will also work. Your junk won't chafe, and will feel cool and tingly all day...
So Super Mario Run is sexist and is calling Nintendo out in that fashion. Did the editor of this article ever once play a Mario game before this app? Because we have a huge bevy of sports, party, racing, and puzzle games that not only feature Peach, Toadette, Daisy, Birdo (whom is apparently transgendered), Rosealina and hell we even have infant variants of certain female characters all of which are playable characters. Then we have Super Mario Bros. 2, Super Mario 3D Land/ World and Super Princess Peach, all of which are platform games with playable female characters. If anything else the Mario series is a series that caters heavily to both genders and anyone finding something sexist about it has to REALLY find something to nitpick about.
"Mario" is a man, and his name is in the game title. That alone is enough to get people offended. And despite "Zelda" being a woman, you play as a boy named Link so the entire Legend of Zelda series is equally offensive.
Due to the brilliant life's work of a certain Anita Sarkesian, we now have "tropes" that include every single video game that features male and/or female protagonists, and why said game is mysogynist and should be banned. And it makes little difference whether it's rated "E" or "M" or somewhere in between, if you are a male developer and you release a video game with protagonists or NPCs who posess identifiable genders, both you and your game will be labeled as mysogynist.
The NYT article is pretty ridiculous. SMB2 is given short shrift. Super Mario games are simple and follow a non-serious formula.
The world is sexist. Women and people of color need more representation in all media. It would be nice if women and people of color were more welcome in industry to provide it. Some progress has happened but the journey must continue. Barriers do exist. Advocation from men/whites is good.
"Sitting normally" on the train isn't cool when it's taking more space than your fair share, regardless of whether that's normal to you.
Men can wear dresses or skirts or high heels. It's mainly other men who pressure them not to. Why is that? Can males advocate for fashion rights in a male-dominated world? tracker I would appreciate if you could leave feedback for our transaction.
So Super Mario Run is sexist and is calling Nintendo out in that fashion. Did the editor of this article ever once play a Mario game before this app? Because we have a huge bevy of sports, party, racing, and puzzle games that not only feature Peach, Toadette, Daisy, Birdo (whom is apparently transgendered), Rosealina and hell we even have infant variants of certain female characters all of which are playable characters. Then we have Super Mario Bros. 2, Super Mario 3D Land/ World and Super Princess Peach, all of which are platform games with playable female characters. If anything else the Mario series is a series that caters heavily to both genders and anyone finding something sexist about it has to REALLY find something to nitpick about.
"Mario" is a man, and his name is in the game title. That alone is enough to get people offended. And despite "Zelda" being a woman, you play as a boy named Link so the entire Legend of Zelda series is equally offensive.
Due to the brilliant life's work of a certain Anita Sarkesian, we now have "tropes" that include every single video game that features male and/or female protagonists, and why said game is mysogynist and should be banned. And it makes little difference whether it's rated "E" or "M" or somewhere in between, if you are a male developer and you release a video game with protagonists or NPCs who posess identifiable genders, both you and your game will be labeled as mysogynist.
Even though this is a very much progressive series people on the internet will still have something to bitch about. (i.e. The levels are too hard. The Goombas represent erectile disfunction. Mario is a furry because of the tanooki suit.) The stupidity never ends.
The Goombas represent erectile disfunction.
Wat.
OK so I'm not saying progressives are never over-the-top (NYT article case in point as I said earlier) but can you point me to some more extreme examples where it's really unreasoned and people really buy into it? I hate to see what causes a backlash,but I want to be aware of idiocy no matter where it exists.
It is a little silly that Zelda barely does anything in "The Legend of Zelda" (series). I am completely willing to let that go in view of beginning from 1986 with an unknown future.
The NYT article is pretty ridiculous. SMB2 is given short shrift. Super Mario games are simple and follow a non-serious formula.
The world is sexist. Women and people of color need more representation in all media. It would be nice if women and people of color were more welcome in industry to provide it. Some progress has happened but the journey must continue. Barriers do exist. Advocation from men/whites is good.
"Sitting normally" on the train isn't cool when it's taking more space than your fair share, regardless of whether that's normal to you.
Men can wear dresses or skirts or high heels. It's mainly other men who pressure them not to. Why is that? Can males advocate for fashion rights in a male-dominated world? tracker I would appreciate if you could leave feedback for our transaction.
Alright, I'll get on it mate. I always have felt that reputation from word of mouth / posts is more important than physical feedback (I never bother checking feedback before entering into transactions), so it just isn't a priority of mine to leave it either. But I'll do it for ya.
The Goombas represent erectile disfunction.
Wat.
OK so I'm not saying progressives are never over-the-top (NYT article case in point as I said earlier) but can you point me to some more extreme examples where it's really unreasoned and people really buy into it? I hate to see what causes a backlash,but I want to be aware of idiocy no matter where it exists.
See 1:30:
Just another example. It's down-right constant from this woman and everyone who follows her. She tries to point out a contradiction in how men vs. women are presented but even her cherry-picked witch hunt examples are often 100% wrong/misleading. It's a shameless, deliberate, distortion of reality to suit her agenda.
It is a little silly that Zelda barely does anything in "The Legend of Zelda" (series). I am completely willing to let that go in view of beginning from 1986 with an unknown future.
The NYT article is pretty ridiculous. SMB2 is given short shrift. Super Mario games are simple and follow a non-serious formula.
The world is sexist. Women and people of color need more representation in all media. It would be nice if women and people of color were more welcome in industry to provide it. Some progress has happened but the journey must continue. Barriers do exist. Advocation from men/whites is good.
"Sitting normally" on the train isn't cool when it's taking more space than your fair share, regardless of whether that's normal to you.
Men can wear dresses or skirts or high heels. It's mainly other men who pressure them not to. Why is that? Can males advocate for fashion rights in a male-dominated world? tracker I would appreciate if you could leave feedback for our transaction.
"Never does anything?" She resisted Ganon and intelligently broke up the triforce to hide it from him in the first game. She telepathically resisted Agahnim to get help for the other maidens in the third game and destroyed the barrier to Gannon's stronghold with the other maidens. She got top-billing in the fourth game she wasn't even a part of. She immobilized Ganon and banished him to the Dark World in the fifth game while fighting him as a bada$$ ninja assassin in disguise through most of the game. She led a bunch of men (pirates) in the next major Zelda game as their superior (more than just an equal) and was an instrumental part of the events. I could go on, but I don't think I really have to.
Zelda has been taking heroic action since the very first game.
The Goombas represent erectile disfunction.
Wat.
OK so I'm not saying progressives are never over-the-top (NYT article case in point as I said earlier) but can you point me to some more extreme examples where it's really unreasoned and people really buy into it? I hate to see what causes a backlash,but I want to be aware of idiocy no matter where it exists.
See 1:30:
Just another example. It's down-right constant from this woman and everyone who follows her. She tries to point out a contradiction in how men vs. women are presented but even her cherry-picked witch hunt examples are often 100% wrong/misleading. It's a shameless, deliberate, distortion of reality to suit her agenda.
It is a little silly that Zelda barely does anything in "The Legend of Zelda" (series). I am completely willing to let that go in view of beginning from 1986 with an unknown future.
The NYT article is pretty ridiculous. SMB2 is given short shrift. Super Mario games are simple and follow a non-serious formula.
The world is sexist. Women and people of color need more representation in all media. It would be nice if women and people of color were more welcome in industry to provide it. Some progress has happened but the journey must continue. Barriers do exist. Advocation from men/whites is good.
"Sitting normally" on the train isn't cool when it's taking more space than your fair share, regardless of whether that's normal to you.
Men can wear dresses or skirts or high heels. It's mainly other men who pressure them not to. Why is that? Can males advocate for fashion rights in a male-dominated world? tracker I would appreciate if you could leave feedback for our transaction.
"Never does anything?" She resisted Ganon and intelligently broke up the triforce to hide it from him in the first game. She telepathically resisted Agahnim to get help for the other maidens in the third game and destroyed the barrier to Gannon's stronghold with the other maidens. She got top-billing in the fourth game she wasn't even a part of. She immobilized Ganon and banished him to the Dark World in the fifth game while fighting him as a bada$$ ninja assassin in disguise through most of the game. She led a bunch of men (pirates) in the next major Zelda game as their superior (more than just an equal) and was an instrumental part of the events. I could go on, but I don't think I really have to.
Zelda has been taking heroic action since the very first game.
Nice. She is so full of herself. To be honest, I haven't been following her recent developments. I hope the feds revokes her non-profit status...
As for Princess Zelda, she always found ways to use her powers to help Link in games. Not just sit down role like Peach, "Mario I am helpless please come rescue me..." Though in SMB2, SMRPG, Super Paper Mario, SM 3D World, and yes, Super Princess Peach, she plays a more active roll as a playable character.
The Goombas represent erectile disfunction.
Wat.
OK so I'm not saying progressives are never over-the-top (NYT article case in point as I said earlier) but can you point me to some more extreme examples where it's really unreasoned and people really buy into it? I hate to see what causes a backlash,but I want to be aware of idiocy no matter where it exists.
See 1:30:
Just another example. It's down-right constant from this woman and everyone who follows her. She tries to point out a contradiction in how men vs. women are presented but even her cherry-picked witch hunt examples are often 100% wrong/misleading. It's a shameless, deliberate, distortion of reality to suit her agenda.
It is a little silly that Zelda barely does anything in "The Legend of Zelda" (series). I am completely willing to let that go in view of beginning from 1986 with an unknown future.
The NYT article is pretty ridiculous. SMB2 is given short shrift. Super Mario games are simple and follow a non-serious formula.
The world is sexist. Women and people of color need more representation in all media. It would be nice if women and people of color were more welcome in industry to provide it. Some progress has happened but the journey must continue. Barriers do exist. Advocation from men/whites is good.
"Sitting normally" on the train isn't cool when it's taking more space than your fair share, regardless of whether that's normal to you.
Men can wear dresses or skirts or high heels. It's mainly other men who pressure them not to. Why is that? Can males advocate for fashion rights in a male-dominated world? tracker I would appreciate if you could leave feedback for our transaction.
"Never does anything?" She resisted Ganon and intelligently broke up the triforce to hide it from him in the first game. She telepathically resisted Agahnim to get help for the other maidens in the third game and destroyed the barrier to Gannon's stronghold with the other maidens. She got top-billing in the fourth game she wasn't even a part of. She immobilized Ganon and banished him to the Dark World in the fifth game while fighting him as a bada$$ ninja assassin in disguise through most of the game. She led a bunch of men (pirates) in the next major Zelda game as their superior (more than just an equal) and was an instrumental part of the events. I could go on, but I don't think I really have to.
Zelda has been taking heroic action since the very first game.
Nice. She is so full of herself. To be honest, I haven't been following her recent developments. I hope the feds revokes her non-profit status...
As for Princess Zelda, she always found ways to use her powers to help Link in games. Not just sit down role like Peach, "Mario I am helpless please come rescue me..." Though in SMB2, SMRPG, Super Paper Mario, SM 3D World, and yes, Super Princess Peach, she plays a more active roll as a playable character.
Not to mention, SMB3 was all just a stage play according to the creators (hence the curtains at the beginning and end). She wasn't really a damsel in distress there either. Even if it weren't a stage play, she doesn't get kidnapped until the very end and actively supports you with items and correspondence throughout the game.
Not to mention, SMB3 was all just a stage play according to the creators (hence the curtains at the beginning and end). She wasn't really a damsel in distress there either. Even if it weren't a stage play, she doesn't get kidnapped until the very end and actively supports you with items and correspondence throughout the game.
I don't buy the whole stageplay thing. SMB3 is very much canon. Compare that to SMB2 with completely different physics (because it never started life as a Mario game) which was revealed to be a dream at the end credits.
Not to mention, SMB3 was all just a stage play according to the creators (hence the curtains at the beginning and end). She wasn't really a damsel in distress there either. Even if it weren't a stage play, she doesn't get kidnapped until the very end and actively supports you with items and correspondence throughout the game.
I don't buy the whole stageplay thing. SMB3 is very much canon. Compare that to SMB2 with completely different physics (because it never started life as a Mario game) which was revealed to be a dream at the end credits.
...but was it canon as a stage play or canon as real events? I'm probably giving GameTheorists too much credit but their theory that she is a goddess does make some sense and may simply be lost in translation for us.
Zelda has been taking heroic action since the very first game.
I said "barely", not "never", but you make a fair point.
Alright, I'll get on it mate.
Thanks I appreciate it!
Not to mention, SMB3 was all just a stage play according to the creators (hence the curtains at the beginning and end). She wasn't really a damsel in distress there either. Even if it weren't a stage play, she doesn't get kidnapped until the very end and actively supports you with items and correspondence throughout the game.
I don't buy the whole stageplay thing. SMB3 is very much canon. Compare that to SMB2 with completely different physics (because it never started life as a Mario game) which was revealed to be a dream at the end credits.
...but was it canon as a stage play or canon as real events? I'm probably giving GameTheorists too much credit but their theory that she is a goddess does make some sense and may simply be lost in translation for us.
Zelda is a Goddess. Samus Aran is a bounty hunter. Rosalina is a cosmic sorceress. Peach is naught but a blonde bimbo who has an on again, off again fling with Bowser (Stockholm syndrome???), and cohorts with fungi people. Mario is just her patsy who she pretends to long for after each planned kidnapping. And what does Mario get as a reward? A kiss on the nose and some cake. It is literally a big game to her but Mario is too blind to see it. Luigi knows better though, which explains why we often see him sitting around in games like Paper Mario...
I've been reading way too much fan fiction, and trust me when I say that's the watered down PG version...
Also...did they just assume Mario's gender!?!
hahaha #TRAGGERED
Yeah, New York Times is a failing rag for a reason. Heard they were down to 10% of what their prescription rate was in their heyday, and that they are downsizing, etc etc.
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Stick to reading infowars
Mario's been around for 30-35 years (depending on whether you want to start with Super Mario Bros or Donkey Kong) and they're only just now bothered by all that? And can't the supposed "Newspaper of record" that proudly says on the top "All the News That's Fit to Print" find anything well, more fit to print? In the famous words of this guy here, give me a break
Damn, Barbara Walters looked good back in the day. I love watching these old news articles; thanx 4 sharing!
Replace SMB2 and Adventures of Link with Amiibo and NES Classic Mini. Same company, same BS, different decade...
I see it like this: A true hero often teaches someone how NOT to be offended, rather than just complain. A true hero also doesn't ask or demand for anything in return.
The problem with that is you only normalize offensive behavior. If someone insults you or someone else or utters a slur and you say nothing, that person will come to believe that behavior is acceptable. Silence becomes consent.
Mario's been around for 30-35 years (depending on whether you want to start with Super Mario Bros or Donkey Kong) and they're only just now bothered by all that? And can't the supposed "Newspaper of record" that proudly says on the top "All the News That's Fit to Print" find anything well, more fit to print? In the famous words of this guy here, give me a break
Damn, Barbara Walters looked good back in the day. I love watching these old news articles; thanx 4 sharing!
Replace SMB2 and Adventures of Link with Amiibo and NES Classic Mini. Same company, same BS, different decade...
If it's the video I think it was then I thought it was interesting seeing that John Stossel already had a Libertarian attitude about certain issues even before he politically "converted" to Libertarianism. Live and let live, no imposing majority opinion/will on individuals, your personal freedoms as an individual only end where they infringe on someone else's, fantasy/imagination/thought crimes are not the same as action and should not be treated as actual violence (free-speech), etc.
Edit: Yep. That was it. Also cool to see them packing gold cartridges with the dust sleeves backwards so that the gold would show through the window.
I see it like this: A true hero often teaches someone how NOT to be offended, rather than just complain. A true hero also doesn't ask or demand for anything in return.
The problem with that is you only normalize offensive behavior. If someone insults you or someone else or utters a slur and you say nothing, that person will come to believe that behavior is acceptable. Silence becomes consent.
Never happened to me. When I was younger, I just ignored the ones who pestered me, and they just gave up because they couldn't get a reaction out of me. Just never give them the time of day, because in the end, it's not worth it. If I were to flip out, they wouldn't care, and continue to pester me because I'm giving them what they want.
I see it like this: A true hero often teaches someone how NOT to be offended, rather than just complain. A true hero also doesn't ask or demand for anything in return.
The problem with that is you only normalize offensive behavior. If someone insults you or someone else or utters a slur and you say nothing, that person will come to believe that behavior is acceptable. Silence becomes consent.
Never happened to me. When I was younger, I just ignored the ones who pestered me, and they just gave up because they couldn't get a reaction out of me. Just never give them the time of day, because in the end, it's not worth it. If I were to flip out, they wouldn't care, and continue to pester me because I'm giving them what they want.
No one says you have to flip out. Just make it known in no uncertain terms that that behavior is not acceptable.
More so important if you see someone treating someone else that way. Step up. If someone uses a racial, misogynistic, or homophobic slur, let them know that what they said is wrong.
There's a difference between being pestered and being bombarded with hate speech. The latter can't just be ignored.
It's not about being a social justice warrior, it is about doing what is right.
I see it like this: A true hero often teaches someone how NOT to be offended, rather than just complain. A true hero also doesn't ask or demand for anything in return.
The problem with that is you only normalize offensive behavior. If someone insults you or someone else or utters a slur and you say nothing, that person will come to believe that behavior is acceptable. Silence becomes consent.
Never happened to me. When I was younger, I just ignored the ones who pestered me, and they just gave up because they couldn't get a reaction out of me. Just never give them the time of day, because in the end, it's not worth it. If I were to flip out, they wouldn't care, and continue to pester me because I'm giving them what they want.
No one says you have to flip out. Just make it known in no uncertain terms that that behavior is not acceptable.
More so important if you see someone treating someone else that way. Step up. If someone uses a racial, misogynistic, or homophobic slur, let them know that what they said is wrong.
There's a difference between being pestered and being bombarded with hate speech. The latter can't just be ignored.
It's not about being a social justice warrior, it is about doing what is right.
Of course, if someone's being an ass, it's okay to step in and be a good Samaritan. But Hell, sticks and stones?
If someone calls me a name, hates on my gender, my ethnicity, or what ever, that's their right. Their opinion. Has nothing to do with me. I can give two shits simply because if they think that of me, then THEY'RE the asshole.
Of course, if someone's being an ass, it's okay to step in and be a good Samaritan. But Hell, sticks and stones?
If someone calls me a name, hates on my gender, my ethnicity, or what ever, that's their right. Their opinion. Has nothing to do with me. I can give two shits simply because if they think that of me, then THEY'RE the asshole.
I'm not going to presume to know your ethnicity or anything. But I do know that with women and minorities, it's not just some random asshole, it's something they face A LOT, almost every day, if not every day. It's not something you can just "shrug off" or learn not to be offended.
It's up to those of us who AREN'T offended to go after the assholes (not phyiscally, but to let them know it's not okay to be doing that), not teach the person being attacked to "get over it."
Sure, it's the right of the asshole to make those comments, but part of being in society is to exercise the right to let the asshole know that their speech is not acceptable in society, and that people want nothing to do with them if they continue. It's not about stifling the 1st amendment. They can continue to say what they want, but the rest of us also have the right to speak back to them. And over time, that hate speech will diminish. But if we do nothing, it emboldens them.
Of course, if someone's being an ass, it's okay to step in and be a good Samaritan. But Hell, sticks and stones?
If someone calls me a name, hates on my gender, my ethnicity, or what ever, that's their right. Their opinion. Has nothing to do with me. I can give two shits simply because if they think that of me, then THEY'RE the asshole.
I'm not going to presume to know your ethnicity or anything. But I do know that with women and minorities, it's not just some random asshole, it's something they face A LOT, almost every day, if not every day. It's not something you can just "shrug off" or learn not to be offended.
It's up to those of us who AREN'T offended to go after the assholes, not teach the person being attacked to "get over it."
Well as if the "bully" in question will always listen to reason. If we live in a perfect world were people will stop hating if you tell them, then we wouldn't have wars.
Well as if the "bully" in question will always listen to reason. If we live in a perfect world were people will stop hating if you tell them, then we wouldn't have wars.
If the majority of people they encounter shame them enough, they will.
What gives a bully their power is that they face someone weaker one on one, and no one else steps in. Someone else comes in, the bully tends to retreat. Do it enough times, and they'll stop it.
Well as if the "bully" in question will always listen to reason. If we live in a perfect world were people will stop hating if you tell them, then we wouldn't have wars.
If the majority of people they encounter shame them enough, they will.
What gives a bully their power is that they face someone weaker one on one, and no one else steps in. Someone else comes in, the bully tends to retreat. Do it enough times, and they'll stop it.
Oh nooo... not in my experience. I think I've attempted to talk to a bully (Who's also been told by other thrid partys to stop thier crap) once and got my ass kicked. lol
I dunno, but I may have grown up in a different world. Has anyone grown up in a very low class 90's public school in the south? Ever lived next to a drug addict? Ever dug through a couch to find change to get something to eat? Lost everything but the backs on their shirts? If anyone that even had it worse, people's bad words are the least on their minds.
If someone wants to hate, let them. Our forefathers and mothers fought and even died to give us a right to expression and freedom of speech, despite how good or vile it is. It is everyone's right. It's not up to me to tell what's right or wrong, especially to someone who doesn't care.
If someone hurts my feelings? Boo-fucking-hoo. Unless you've had a knife to your throat or a gun pointed to your face, words are the most trivial thing in the grand sceme or things.
They think their hatred is accepted by society, that they have power over you and you end up being stabbed.
Oh nooo... not in my experience. I think I've attempted to talk to a bully (Who's also been told by other thrid partys to stop thier crap) once and got my ass kicked. lol
I dunno, but I may have grown up in a different world. Has anyone grown up in a very low class 90's public school in the south? Never lived next to a drug addict? Ever dug through a couch to find change to get something to eat? Lost everything but the backs on their shirts? If anyone that even had it worse, people's bad words are the least on their minds.
If someone wants to hate, let them. Our forefathers and mothers fought and even died to give us a right to expression and freedom of speech, despite how good or vile it is. It is everyone's right. It's not up to me to tell what's right or wrong, especially to someone who doesn't care.
If someone hurts my feelings? Boo-fucking-hoo. Unless you've had a knife to your throat or a gun pointed to your face, words are the most trivial thing in the grand sceme or things.
I'm not saying that there aren't worse things that can happen in the world, or that you won't take your lumps standing up to a bully.
But letting them speak however they want, and saying its their right to do so (which, yes, technically is true) is just contributing to that kind of atititude and talk continuing perpetually. No one's saying the government should just arrest people from speaking their minds, far from it. But part of society is to let people know what is acceptable and what isn't. That's as much a part of freedom of speech as letting a hateful person spout off. If they're just ranting to the sky, sure, ignore them, but if they're actively attacking someone verbally who can't fight back, someone else needs to step in.
And it comes back to just because you've learned to accept an occasional bad word, it isn't the same as people who face it all the time. Maybe you have, and you've just grown numb. In which case, I think that's sad. But I'd be willing to bet you haven't faced the type of hate speech (or even more subtle forms of discrimination) that a lot of people face that just makes it seem like society is against them. That's where we need to let them know that society isn't against them, and that the hate speech isn't acceptable, and we'll stand with them against the hateful people.
Look, if anyone's in deep crap, either walk away, or even talk to someone. Talking to a bully or whoever head on isn't the way to go. This is from experience. DO NOT engage in a fight unless you HAVE to. Fighting doesn't solve anything, but if your LIFE is on the line, then do it. Being called a name won't let you wake up the next day with swore muscles or broken bones.