I read up on chansey and saw the eggs can heal injured Pokémon. I didn't see anything about defense curl.
It can learn the move defense curl, but again rdools was saved by a MissingNo. And now to add on to it he says he would've taken the hit, which would mean that he'd be dead right now after targeting rdools last night.
Well it would certainly be inconvenient and kind of BS if rdools was only shown one of the people targeting him if everything said so far is true.
The only explanation I can think of is if he only sees the person who targeted him AND was successful in their role. In this case, he'd have been successfully protected, which would cause the wolf to fail their attack, and revealing the protector.
That's not in the rules, though obviously it states only that the roles in the OP are "typical roles". I'm not sure what to make of it at this point, so i'll wait to hear more, personally. Timezones etc, means we could see someone come out to refute wasg and his claim, or potentially even back it up.
We've still really only heard from the active folks so far. I imagine the wolves are quietly working away in their thread on some way to twist whatever is going on in their favor.
Well it would certainly be inconvenient and kind of BS if rdools was only shown one of the people targeting him if everything said so far is true.
The only explanation I can think of is if he only sees the person who targeted him AND was successful in their role. In this case, he'd have been successfully protected, which would cause the wolf to fail their attack, and revealing the protector. That's not in the rules, though obviously it states only that the roles in the OP are "typical roles". I'm not sure what to make of it at this point, so i'll wait to hear more, personally. Timezones etc, means we could see someone come out to refute wasg and his claim, or potentially even back it up. We've still really only heard from the active folks so far. I imagine the wolves are quietly working away in their thread on some way to twist whatever is going on in their favor.
Agreed. At some point we've got to try something new because what we are doing so far isn't working
The Pokemon Trainer set his sights on a now injured rdools. He was about to throw a Poke Ball, but got distracted by the sudden appearance of a strange creature. It was MissingNo!
"What's that? I've never seen a Pokemon like that before! I gotta have it!"
He turned his attention away from rdools and threw a Poke Ball towards MissingNo. He appeared to have captured it.
"Yeah! I cauuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu…"
Something was wrong. The Pokemon Trainer froze in place and began to look a bit glitchy. The MissingNo then escaped from the Poke Ball and started lurking through the grass. It would probably be best to avoid it.
Begin Day 5!
Players Remaining: 14
Votes Needed to Attack before Twilight: 9
Votes Needed to Attack at Twilight: 1
Twilight begins 4/2 at 11:00 PM NA Time
Day 4 ends on 4/3 at 11:00 PM NA Time
- doner says he role blocked jmbarnes
- wasg says he is chansey, who can protect. wasg claims he takes the hit for the other pokemon.
- rdools said he watched himself.
- rdools was "now injured". Why.
Rdools. What else can you tell us about the specifics of how your watching ability works. I.e. any hints from Red's bio as to whether you can see who targets you in general vs who successfully targets you?
We also have to ask ourselves, who was behind the MissingNo save of rdools? If wasg is telling the truth, it wasn't him, or he'd be dead. If doner is telling the truth, it wasn't him, because he says he targeted jmbarnes.
So......... if both those guys are telling the truth, there would have to be a third person with a save or block ability, who targeted the person that targeted rdools. (Wasn't alakhira the priest meaning one of those roles is dead? Or am I misremembering? Is there even another saver or blocker out there?).
Watching yourself is quite the gamble. Nicely down. Well typically the only time u see a missiningo is when ur trying to get rare candys. Maybe geg has something to do with this? Or the fact he had 99
I'm just going to say what I think. If I get hung or eaten, so be it, I'd rather be active than say nothing all game.
The quiets need some heat. For example, I am suspicious of nesking80. Has said little all game, just hanging around under the radar hoping to not get noticed and saying something here and there to not get noticed for saying nothing, either.
The point about fluffy/limbo being here for a reason is good too.
I think there's a lot of good stuff to follow up on in the future from last night's events, but I'm with Gloves. The quiets have been getting a free ride.
The Pokemon Trainer set his sights on a now injured rdools. He was about to throw a Poke Ball, but got distracted by the sudden appearance of a strange creature. It was MissingNo!
"What's that? I've never seen a Pokemon like that before! I gotta have it!"
He turned his attention away from rdools and threw a Poke Ball towards MissingNo. He appeared to have captured it.
"Yeah! I cauuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu…"
Something was wrong. The Pokemon Trainer froze in place and began to look a bit glitchy. The MissingNo then escaped from the Poke Ball and started lurking through the grass. It would probably be best to avoid it.
Begin Day 5!
Players Remaining: 14
Votes Needed to Attack before Twilight: 9
Votes Needed to Attack at Twilight: 1
Twilight begins 4/2 at 11:00 PM NA Time
Day 4 ends on 4/3 at 11:00 PM NA Time
- doner says he role blocked jmbarnes
- wasg says he is chansey, who can protect. wasg claims he takes the hit for the other pokemon.
- rdools said he watched himself.
- rdools was "now injured". Why.
Rdools. What else can you tell us about the specifics of how your watching ability works. I.e. any hints from Red's bio as to whether you can see who targets you in general vs who successfully targets you?
We also have to ask ourselves, who was behind the MissingNo save of rdools? If wasg is telling the truth, it wasn't him, or he'd be dead. If doner is telling the truth, it wasn't him, because he says he targeted jmbarnes.
So......... if both those guys are telling the truth, there would have to be a third person with a save or block ability, who targeted the person that targeted rdools. (Wasn't alakhira the priest meaning one of those roles is dead? Or am I misremembering? Is there even another saver or blocker out there?).
I'm sure I had nothing to do with it, as it specifically says I paralyze via stun spore when I use my power.
Watching yourself is quite the gamble. Nicely down. Well typically the only time u see a missiningo is when ur trying to get rare candys. Maybe geg has something to do with this? Or the fact he had 99
I had a strong feeling I was pushing some buttons, and I would be the next target.
I think you are on to something with the rare candys, that is likely what saved me, may have not been targetted to me, but a one time use thing where we could distract to save one person (which happened to be me).
I think the chansey thing is just an excuse, and I am not buying it, I think our priest is dead, and thats that.
Bronty is also quick to jump on, and off the kill, which sounds sort of wolfy to me, but that could just be his style. I think he has been on most kills, but he may have just been drinking the koolaid, who knows.
Watching yourself is quite the gamble. Nicely down. Well typically the only time u see a missiningo is when ur trying to get rare candys. Maybe geg has something to do with this? Or the fact he had 99
I had a strong feeling I was pushing some buttons, and I would be the next target.
I think you are on to something with the rare candys, that is likely what saved me, may have not been targetted to me, but a one time use thing where we could distract to save one person (which happened to be me).
I think the chansey thing is just an excuse, and I am not buying it, I think our priest is dead, and thats that.
Bronty is also quick to jump on, and off the kill, which sounds sort of wolfy to me, but that could just be his style. I think he has been on most kills, but he may have just been drinking the koolaid, who knows.
I just like to hear myself talk. Seriously. To me, the game is no fun if I'm quiet the whole game because I "might get noticed." Now, I've never been a wolf or an indy, ever, so I don't know what its like to be on that side of things and have to generate a bunch of lies on the spot. I'm not sure I'd be good at it, but right now this is easy because there is no conflict, I'm not lying or trying to.
If you go over my posts you will see that I am simply trying to build up what information we have, and in an active manner. I don't think a wolf would do that.
I think our first decision has to be: what direction do we go?
a) do we investigate last night's events, or
b) do we go after quiets
I can see the merits of both.
I'd like to hear from dools (a) and gloves (b) on that.
Like I said, I've been saying that there are going to be quiet wolves hanging back since day one.
If we decide to go that route, whether today or the next, I believe we should compare the quiet folks against a list of who's voted for who. It's reasonable, I think, to assume that the people not talking are also the people not voting. The people who are NOT talking, and have voted once at most, are IMO likely to be wolves. They get in their non-suspect vote once it's clear that we're all happy to vote off a towny, and are otherwise quiet and don't vote at all, to keep themselves off of lists.
Based on this, and if I ignore the happenings today and last night, right now my prime suspects would be behemos and vectrex. Others have said that this is simply how vectrex ALWAYS plays, so I'd place behemos above him in priority for this. behemos has been mostly quiet the entire game, only coming out to vote and toss shade. Look at yesterday - he came in, voted for dragoon saying that he was on board, and promptly disappeared. This is exactly the type of behaviour I'm talking about - pop in, agree with the group, toss a vote, disappear. He did the same thing on day 2 as well, if memory serves.
Next on my list would be NESking80. Overall a quiet chap, and see my logic I put out there on the last day about voting habits. If not behemos, NESKing80 would probably be my next target.
Here's my post regarding this for reference. the TL;DR here is that GEG and NESKing80 are suspicious.
Originally posted by: Gloves
Originally posted by: Bronty
This thread is a beast to read.
A few thoughts.
1) Humming
Alakhira was humming and then killed, a townie.
Wasg was humming as well. I believe him to be town.
Who else was humming? Perhaps humming is something that affects town only?
2) Pokemon
Pokemon referenced GoldenEyeGamer and posted pics of Caterpie and Butterfree.
Pokemon referenced dra6oon and posted a pic of snorlax. He had previously claimed snorlax.
Pokemon referenced doner and posted a pic of charmander. He had previously claimed bellsprout.
The above are facts. We have precious few of them. When it comes right down to it, as much as I disagree with dra6oon and his tactics, I'll go with the person that had been proven to be telling the truth over the person that had been proven to be lying.
UNVOTE: dra6oon
I also have a question. I have a recollection of dra6oon saying a bunch of people were "cleared" when to me they weren't, and that's part of what set me off about him, but I can't see to find it. Is that there, or am I mistaken?
Lastly, I'm leaning voting doner for the reasons stated above. Proved to have lied about his character, and we have to ask ourselves for what possible purpose? Why would a townie lie about the character? It doesn't make sense to me. As much I have a townie vibe about doner, I don't like the facts.
Am I missing anything there? I particularly would like to hear from behemos, gloves, wasg as I think all three are town.
Frankly I'm with doner in regards to the Pokemon account. To me it seems to be someone pulling some strings to make people look good/bad in their own favor. Based on this, I'd be prone more to think the following. Note that these are as unbiased and as close to factual information as I can possibly do, given the evidence at hand.
GEG claiming to be a Metapod, and Pokemon outting him as such is either: 1) A coincidence, or 2) GEG lying ("oh yeah hey Caterpie, that's totally similar to my actual Pokemon, Metapod, who is totally useless and definitely town!").
Note: GEG claimed to be Metapod AFTER Pokemon named him and showed an image of Caterpie.
Next day, Pokemon stated GEG again, this time Butterfree. Is he evolving?
Further note regarding this: GEG has run into a bunch of rare candies in the night, is now level 99, and claims to now have a night role/skill? No mention of his "evolution", though.
Dragoon claiming to be Snorlax, and Pokemon confirming it is most likely dragoon or a "friend" of his trying to clear him as town. "I am Snorlax, a lazy and useless Pokemon!"
Note: dragoon claimed to be Snorlax, and Pokemon followed it up relatively shortly after by "confirming" this. dragoon jumped on that post soon after stating that it looks like someone wants to confirm his identity for him. This to me is odd, considering he stated when Pokemon first posted about GEG that he hated that it was even a thing; now he's in favor of it, now that it's on his side. Makes sense I suppose, mind you - I'd be happy to have someone "confirm" my alibi as well.
Lastly, doner was called a Charmeleon. Now this time I was thoroughly confused when it popped up. If this is as I say it is, and someone is out there manipulating our thoughts with this extra account, why protect me? Why go for the throat on doner? Well I think it has to do with timing. Look at WHEN it announced Charmeleon. I don't think it was protecting me so much as it was simply targeting doner. Potentially even trying to make it LOOK like it was protecting me (double edged sword - BOTH of the two of us could look bad with this move). My theory on this is that someone out there, a wolf controlling Pokemon, would be totally happy to have EITHER of us dead. Either they sway everyone into thinking "doner is Charmeleon, that is a starter, it must be the trainer's starter!", OR "This is clearly a fluke to protect Gloves - he must be a wolf getting some help!". But what if neither of us is a wolf? Then the wolves walk away looking like town without an issue, while we do their dirty work, tearing each other apart over it. One of the two of us dies, and we lose either me, the talkative planner, or doner, the sel-proclaimed Role Blocker.
Noting the last part there, who voted for doner shortly after he was called Charmeleon?
NESKing came in and triple posted, 5 minutes later. First, telling us all why that makes doner suspicious. Next, he votes for doner. And lastly, a finger-point:
Originally posted by: NESking80
Originally posted by: dra600n
So that means me, rdools, nes, mbc, behemos, and doner are all town. With that, we have quite a few people we can rule out
lol if I'm right about doner you will be highly suspicious the next game day.
Two birds one stone, perhaps?
Now, I'm not big on the whole "this list of people is cleared" thing myself. Much of is is pure hearsay. We need to remember that each of us could be bullshitting eeeeveryone else. So, for instance, when MBC says "I did something to you and NED one day 1" when dragoon claims to be connected to NED, I'm prone only to see someone jumping on an opportunity to "clear" themselves. MBC has himself already stated, further along, that he simply chose two people - no idea their allegiance. Could be two town, could be two wolves, could be a mix. He simply doesn't know. None of us do. I don't think any of that "clears" any of them. I'm far more suspicious, frankly, of people aligning themselves to each other.
Anyway, I'm in the middle of studying for a project I have to start tomorrow at work, so that's all the "big post" time I have right now.
Anyone feel free to pick apart, stab at, mangle, whatever, the above. Cut holes in it, tell me where I'm wrong, say you agree with me if you truly do. We need to start going through, finding REAL evidence, and putting two and two together, or else we're going to get eaten alive.
I've used quotes throughout, so people SHOULD get notifications that I've quoted them, calling them out so they can get in here and say something about it. Note that when I said the above on the last day, neither GEG nor NESKing had anything to say about it. Potentially ignoring it in order to focus on the dragoon/Bronty stuff that was going on at the time, to drown me out.
Reading back through the thread, and it looks like behemos was actually cleared by fox's death (though note that the name in the announcement was redacted, we can really only assume that fox was being truthful). The rest of my post stands though, as my notes on behemos are primarily that he's not very active. Of course being 100% confirmed as town, I suppose there's not much need to pop up and say a lot all the time. Still, might be nice to hear a confirmed town's opinion on the goings-on.
Yup, I had forgotten. Please refer to my second post:
Originally posted by: Gloves
Reading back through the thread, and it looks like behemos was actually cleared by fox's death (though note that the name in the announcement was redacted, we can really only assume that fox was being truthful). The rest of my post stands though, as my notes on behemos are primarily that he's not very active. Of course being 100% confirmed as town, I suppose there's not much need to pop up and say a lot all the time. Still, might be nice to hear a confirmed town's opinion on the goings-on.
^gloves: it is pretty obvious, had it been a town power then someone would be pushing doner very aggressively and since its not happening its obviously wolves in control.
Atleast 3 on this list are wolves if not all 4 of the wolves.
We have a good group of townies behind us so I would like to hear from them who we should target today. People on this list do not need to reply to this post I am only seeking peoples opinioms from my town list. If you arent on this list lets work together to choose a wolf.
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I posted before I saw your answer.
I read up on chansey and saw the eggs can heal injured Pokémon. I didn't see anything about defense curl.
It can learn the move defense curl, but again rdools was saved by a MissingNo. And now to add on to it he says he would've taken the hit, which would mean that he'd be dead right now after targeting rdools last night.
**Unvote Doner24
**Vote Wasg
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MissingNo.
Well it would certainly be inconvenient and kind of BS if rdools was only shown one of the people targeting him if everything said so far is true.
The only explanation I can think of is if he only sees the person who targeted him AND was successful in their role. In this case, he'd have been successfully protected, which would cause the wolf to fail their attack, and revealing the protector.
That's not in the rules, though obviously it states only that the roles in the OP are "typical roles". I'm not sure what to make of it at this point, so i'll wait to hear more, personally. Timezones etc, means we could see someone come out to refute wasg and his claim, or potentially even back it up.
We've still really only heard from the active folks so far. I imagine the wolves are quietly working away in their thread on some way to twist whatever is going on in their favor.
Well it would certainly be inconvenient and kind of BS if rdools was only shown one of the people targeting him if everything said so far is true.
The only explanation I can think of is if he only sees the person who targeted him AND was successful in their role. In this case, he'd have been successfully protected, which would cause the wolf to fail their attack, and revealing the protector. That's not in the rules, though obviously it states only that the roles in the OP are "typical roles". I'm not sure what to make of it at this point, so i'll wait to hear more, personally. Timezones etc, means we could see someone come out to refute wasg and his claim, or potentially even back it up. We've still really only heard from the active folks so far. I imagine the wolves are quietly working away in their thread on some way to twist whatever is going on in their favor.
Agreed. At some point we've got to try something new because what we are doing so far isn't working
Night 4 Update:
The Pokemon Trainer set his sights on a now injured rdools. He was about to throw a Poke Ball, but got distracted by the sudden appearance of a strange creature. It was MissingNo!
"What's that? I've never seen a Pokemon like that before! I gotta have it!"
He turned his attention away from rdools and threw a Poke Ball towards MissingNo. He appeared to have captured it.
"Yeah! I cauuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu…"
Something was wrong. The Pokemon Trainer froze in place and began to look a bit glitchy. The MissingNo then escaped from the Poke Ball and started lurking through the grass. It would probably be best to avoid it.
Begin Day 5!
Players Remaining: 14
Votes Needed to Attack before Twilight: 9
Votes Needed to Attack at Twilight: 1
Twilight begins 4/2 at 11:00 PM NA Time
Day 4 ends on 4/3 at 11:00 PM NA Time
- doner says he role blocked jmbarnes
- wasg says he is chansey, who can protect. wasg claims he takes the hit for the other pokemon.
- rdools said he watched himself.
- rdools was "now injured". Why.
Rdools. What else can you tell us about the specifics of how your watching ability works. I.e. any hints from Red's bio as to whether you can see who targets you in general vs who successfully targets you?
We also have to ask ourselves, who was behind the MissingNo save of rdools? If wasg is telling the truth, it wasn't him, or he'd be dead. If doner is telling the truth, it wasn't him, because he says he targeted jmbarnes.
So......... if both those guys are telling the truth, there would have to be a third person with a save or block ability, who targeted the person that targeted rdools. (Wasn't alakhira the priest meaning one of those roles is dead? Or am I misremembering? Is there even another saver or blocker out there?).
The quiets need some heat. For example, I am suspicious of nesking80. Has said little all game, just hanging around under the radar hoping to not get noticed and saying something here and there to not get noticed for saying nothing, either.
The point about fluffy/limbo being here for a reason is good too.
I think there's a lot of good stuff to follow up on in the future from last night's events, but I'm with Gloves. The quiets have been getting a free ride.
Night 4 Update:
The Pokemon Trainer set his sights on a now injured rdools. He was about to throw a Poke Ball, but got distracted by the sudden appearance of a strange creature. It was MissingNo!
"What's that? I've never seen a Pokemon like that before! I gotta have it!"
He turned his attention away from rdools and threw a Poke Ball towards MissingNo. He appeared to have captured it.
"Yeah! I cauuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu…"
Something was wrong. The Pokemon Trainer froze in place and began to look a bit glitchy. The MissingNo then escaped from the Poke Ball and started lurking through the grass. It would probably be best to avoid it.
Begin Day 5!
Players Remaining: 14
Votes Needed to Attack before Twilight: 9
Votes Needed to Attack at Twilight: 1
Twilight begins 4/2 at 11:00 PM NA Time
Day 4 ends on 4/3 at 11:00 PM NA Time
- doner says he role blocked jmbarnes
- wasg says he is chansey, who can protect. wasg claims he takes the hit for the other pokemon.
- rdools said he watched himself.
- rdools was "now injured". Why.
Rdools. What else can you tell us about the specifics of how your watching ability works. I.e. any hints from Red's bio as to whether you can see who targets you in general vs who successfully targets you?
We also have to ask ourselves, who was behind the MissingNo save of rdools? If wasg is telling the truth, it wasn't him, or he'd be dead. If doner is telling the truth, it wasn't him, because he says he targeted jmbarnes.
So......... if both those guys are telling the truth, there would have to be a third person with a save or block ability, who targeted the person that targeted rdools. (Wasn't alakhira the priest meaning one of those roles is dead? Or am I misremembering? Is there even another saver or blocker out there?).
I'm sure I had nothing to do with it, as it specifically says I paralyze via stun spore when I use my power.
Doner, I'm not suggesting (or not suggesting) you had anything to do with it. Just trying to build the set of claims and see what can be gleaned.
Yeah I got that, I was just meaning that jmbarnes wouldn't have been able to be a part of it either.
Watching yourself is quite the gamble. Nicely down. Well typically the only time u see a missiningo is when ur trying to get rare candys. Maybe geg has something to do with this? Or the fact he had 99
I had a strong feeling I was pushing some buttons, and I would be the next target.
I think you are on to something with the rare candys, that is likely what saved me, may have not been targetted to me, but a one time use thing where we could distract to save one person (which happened to be me).
I think the chansey thing is just an excuse, and I am not buying it, I think our priest is dead, and thats that.
Bronty is also quick to jump on, and off the kill, which sounds sort of wolfy to me, but that could just be his style. I think he has been on most kills, but he may have just been drinking the koolaid, who knows.
Doner, I'm not suggesting (or not suggesting) you had anything to do with it. Just trying to build the set of claims and see what can be gleaned.
Yeah I got that, I was just meaning that jmbarnes wouldn't have been able to be a part of it either.
ah.
Watching yourself is quite the gamble. Nicely down. Well typically the only time u see a missiningo is when ur trying to get rare candys. Maybe geg has something to do with this? Or the fact he had 99
I had a strong feeling I was pushing some buttons, and I would be the next target.
I think you are on to something with the rare candys, that is likely what saved me, may have not been targetted to me, but a one time use thing where we could distract to save one person (which happened to be me).
I think the chansey thing is just an excuse, and I am not buying it, I think our priest is dead, and thats that.
Bronty is also quick to jump on, and off the kill, which sounds sort of wolfy to me, but that could just be his style. I think he has been on most kills, but he may have just been drinking the koolaid, who knows.
I just like to hear myself talk. Seriously. To me, the game is no fun if I'm quiet the whole game because I "might get noticed." Now, I've never been a wolf or an indy, ever, so I don't know what its like to be on that side of things and have to generate a bunch of lies on the spot. I'm not sure I'd be good at it, but right now this is easy because there is no conflict, I'm not lying or trying to.
If you go over my posts you will see that I am simply trying to build up what information we have, and in an active manner. I don't think a wolf would do that.
a) do we investigate last night's events, or
b) do we go after quiets
I can see the merits of both.
I'd like to hear from dools (a) and gloves (b) on that.
I think once we decide on a) vs b) we can narrow that down further.
I think our first decision has to be: what direction do we go?
a) do we investigate last night's events, or
b) do we go after quiets
I can see the merits of both.
I'd like to hear from dools (a) and gloves (b) on that.
Like I said, I've been saying that there are going to be quiet wolves hanging back since day one.
If we decide to go that route, whether today or the next, I believe we should compare the quiet folks against a list of who's voted for who. It's reasonable, I think, to assume that the people not talking are also the people not voting. The people who are NOT talking, and have voted once at most, are IMO likely to be wolves. They get in their non-suspect vote once it's clear that we're all happy to vote off a towny, and are otherwise quiet and don't vote at all, to keep themselves off of lists.
Based on this, and if I ignore the happenings today and last night, right now my prime suspects would be behemos and vectrex. Others have said that this is simply how vectrex ALWAYS plays, so I'd place behemos above him in priority for this. behemos has been mostly quiet the entire game, only coming out to vote and toss shade. Look at yesterday - he came in, voted for dragoon saying that he was on board, and promptly disappeared. This is exactly the type of behaviour I'm talking about - pop in, agree with the group, toss a vote, disappear. He did the same thing on day 2 as well, if memory serves.
Next on my list would be NESking80. Overall a quiet chap, and see my logic I put out there on the last day about voting habits. If not behemos, NESKing80 would probably be my next target.
Here's my post regarding this for reference. the TL;DR here is that GEG and NESKing80 are suspicious.
This thread is a beast to read.
A few thoughts.
1) Humming
Alakhira was humming and then killed, a townie.
Wasg was humming as well. I believe him to be town.
Who else was humming? Perhaps humming is something that affects town only?
2) Pokemon
Pokemon referenced GoldenEyeGamer and posted pics of Caterpie and Butterfree.
Pokemon referenced dra6oon and posted a pic of snorlax. He had previously claimed snorlax.
Pokemon referenced doner and posted a pic of charmander. He had previously claimed bellsprout.
The above are facts. We have precious few of them. When it comes right down to it, as much as I disagree with dra6oon and his tactics, I'll go with the person that had been proven to be telling the truth over the person that had been proven to be lying.
UNVOTE: dra6oon
I also have a question. I have a recollection of dra6oon saying a bunch of people were "cleared" when to me they weren't, and that's part of what set me off about him, but I can't see to find it. Is that there, or am I mistaken?
Lastly, I'm leaning voting doner for the reasons stated above. Proved to have lied about his character, and we have to ask ourselves for what possible purpose? Why would a townie lie about the character? It doesn't make sense to me. As much I have a townie vibe about doner, I don't like the facts.
Am I missing anything there? I particularly would like to hear from behemos, gloves, wasg as I think all three are town.
Frankly I'm with doner in regards to the Pokemon account. To me it seems to be someone pulling some strings to make people look good/bad in their own favor. Based on this, I'd be prone more to think the following. Note that these are as unbiased and as close to factual information as I can possibly do, given the evidence at hand.
GEG claiming to be a Metapod, and Pokemon outting him as such is either: 1) A coincidence, or 2) GEG lying ("oh yeah hey Caterpie, that's totally similar to my actual Pokemon, Metapod, who is totally useless and definitely town!").
Note: GEG claimed to be Metapod AFTER Pokemon named him and showed an image of Caterpie.
Next day, Pokemon stated GEG again, this time Butterfree. Is he evolving?
Further note regarding this: GEG has run into a bunch of rare candies in the night, is now level 99, and claims to now have a night role/skill? No mention of his "evolution", though.
Dragoon claiming to be Snorlax, and Pokemon confirming it is most likely dragoon or a "friend" of his trying to clear him as town. "I am Snorlax, a lazy and useless Pokemon!"
Note: dragoon claimed to be Snorlax, and Pokemon followed it up relatively shortly after by "confirming" this. dragoon jumped on that post soon after stating that it looks like someone wants to confirm his identity for him. This to me is odd, considering he stated when Pokemon first posted about GEG that he hated that it was even a thing; now he's in favor of it, now that it's on his side. Makes sense I suppose, mind you - I'd be happy to have someone "confirm" my alibi as well.
Lastly, doner was called a Charmeleon. Now this time I was thoroughly confused when it popped up. If this is as I say it is, and someone is out there manipulating our thoughts with this extra account, why protect me? Why go for the throat on doner? Well I think it has to do with timing. Look at WHEN it announced Charmeleon. I don't think it was protecting me so much as it was simply targeting doner. Potentially even trying to make it LOOK like it was protecting me (double edged sword - BOTH of the two of us could look bad with this move). My theory on this is that someone out there, a wolf controlling Pokemon, would be totally happy to have EITHER of us dead. Either they sway everyone into thinking "doner is Charmeleon, that is a starter, it must be the trainer's starter!", OR "This is clearly a fluke to protect Gloves - he must be a wolf getting some help!". But what if neither of us is a wolf? Then the wolves walk away looking like town without an issue, while we do their dirty work, tearing each other apart over it. One of the two of us dies, and we lose either me, the talkative planner, or doner, the sel-proclaimed Role Blocker.
Noting the last part there, who voted for doner shortly after he was called Charmeleon?
NESKing came in and triple posted, 5 minutes later. First, telling us all why that makes doner suspicious. Next, he votes for doner. And lastly, a finger-point:
So that means me, rdools, nes, mbc, behemos, and doner are all town. With that, we have quite a few people we can rule out
lol if I'm right about doner you will be highly suspicious the next game day.
Two birds one stone, perhaps?
Now, I'm not big on the whole "this list of people is cleared" thing myself. Much of is is pure hearsay. We need to remember that each of us could be bullshitting eeeeveryone else. So, for instance, when MBC says "I did something to you and NED one day 1" when dragoon claims to be connected to NED, I'm prone only to see someone jumping on an opportunity to "clear" themselves. MBC has himself already stated, further along, that he simply chose two people - no idea their allegiance. Could be two town, could be two wolves, could be a mix. He simply doesn't know. None of us do. I don't think any of that "clears" any of them. I'm far more suspicious, frankly, of people aligning themselves to each other.
Anyway, I'm in the middle of studying for a project I have to start tomorrow at work, so that's all the "big post" time I have right now.
Anyone feel free to pick apart, stab at, mangle, whatever, the above. Cut holes in it, tell me where I'm wrong, say you agree with me if you truly do. We need to start going through, finding REAL evidence, and putting two and two together, or else we're going to get eaten alive.
I've used quotes throughout, so people SHOULD get notifications that I've quoted them, calling them out so they can get in here and say something about it. Note that when I said the above on the last day, neither GEG nor NESKing had anything to say about it. Potentially ignoring it in order to focus on the dragoon/Bronty stuff that was going on at the time, to drown me out.
Umm red told fox behomos is town
Yup, I had forgotten. Please refer to my second post:
Reading back through the thread, and it looks like behemos was actually cleared by fox's death (though note that the name in the announcement was redacted, we can really only assume that fox was being truthful). The rest of my post stands though, as my notes on behemos are primarily that he's not very active. Of course being 100% confirmed as town, I suppose there's not much need to pop up and say a lot all the time. Still, might be nice to hear a confirmed town's opinion on the goings-on.
So geg what happened to going super sayan or whatever you said? You were fully powered up right?
Never said anything about Super Sayan, I said something along the lines of "if everything goes right tonight", and obviously it didn't.
Last night was amazing, why is it obvious things didnt go right?
also everyone saying Pokemons posts are confirmed must not have been paying much attention.
Behomos we really need u in here. U should be calling the shots
So geg what happened to going super sayan or whatever you said? You were fully powered up right?
Never said anything about Super Sayan, I said something along the lines of "if everything goes right tonight", and obviously it didn't.
Last night was amazing, why is it obvious things didnt go right?
also everyone saying Pokemons posts are confirmed must not have been paying much attention.
Yeah I'm still of the mind that the Pokemon posts are someone trying to pull strings.
So geg what happened to going super sayan or whatever you said? You were fully powered up right?
Never said anything about Super Sayan, I said something along the lines of "if everything goes right tonight", and obviously it didn't.
Last night was amazing, why is it obvious things didnt go right?
also everyone saying Pokemons posts are confirmed must not have been paying much attention.
None of that was my doing, you even asked where my "super sayan" whatever was so I'm pretty sure you also know this already.
So geg what happened to going super sayan or whatever you said? You were fully powered up right?
Never said anything about Super Sayan, I said something along the lines of "if everything goes right tonight", and obviously it didn't.
Last night was amazing, why is it obvious things didnt go right?
also everyone saying Pokemons posts are confirmed must not have been paying much attention.
None of that was my doing, you even asked where my "super sayan" whatever was so I'm pretty sure you also know this already.
I dont want to go back and find the post but you sai you were fully powered up with 99 rare candies and then someone said you were telling the truth.
so im asking what happened, andno it isnt obvious, what happened?
Atleast 3 on this list are wolves if not all 4 of the wolves.
We have a good group of townies behind us so I would like to hear from them who we should target today. People on this list do not need to reply to this post I am only seeking peoples opinioms from my town list. If you arent on this list lets work together to choose a wolf.
So geg what happened to going super sayan or whatever you said? You were fully powered up right?
Never said anything about Super Sayan, I said something along the lines of "if everything goes right tonight", and obviously it didn't.
Last night was amazing, why is it obvious things didnt go right?
also everyone saying Pokemons posts are confirmed must not have been paying much attention.
None of that was my doing, you even asked where my "super sayan" whatever was so I'm pretty sure you also know this already.
I dont want to go back and find the post but you sai you were fully powered up with 99 rare candies and then someone said you were telling the truth.
so im asking what happened, andno it isnt obvious, what happened?
Like I said in my rare candies post, my ability would work if everything went right, and like I said in this quote train it didn't go right.