What constitutes Complete (CiB) games?
Wondering if I could get some feedback on this, to see where the community stands.
To me, especially with SNES and NES, CiB means with Box, Manual and Cartridge.
But to some, it means those things plus the posters/warranty information/other add-ins.
What are the thoughts of the NA community?
To me, especially with SNES and NES, CiB means with Box, Manual and Cartridge.
But to some, it means those things plus the posters/warranty information/other add-ins.
What are the thoughts of the NA community?
Comments
Do you consider CIB to mean "Complete in Box" or "Cart/CD, Instructions, Box"
If the latter, then you only need the cartridge/cd, instructions, and box...if the former, then you need the poster, warranty card, map, adverts, and anything else that came from the factory it was printed in.
Obviously that changes a few things, but you're right. It's all depending on what the term "CiB" stands for.
To me, complete means it has every warranty card and insert, etc.
Example: You often may notice people put 'CB' for games missing the instructions. In those auctions, I assume that it will only include the game and box and no other inserts (unless the pics prove otherwise).
"Complete," to me, means it has everything that was in the box when it was opened. Styrofoam, baggies, advertisements, posters, reg cards, stickers, and whatever else was in there. I'm OK with omitting food items, though, so you don't have to have a Fruit Roll-Up to call Gunstar Heroes complete.
I'm OK with omitting food items, though, so you don't have to have a Fruit Roll-Up to call Gunstar Heroes complete.
oh good, I was hungry
100% CIB (I think it is a good term to use) Should include all contents that were originally included.
Complete = inserts included
CIB = Cart/Instruction/Box minimum
Almost impossible to know what complete actually is though. People Frankenstein their games too much so you could do research but unless you are watching or doing an actual unboxing of a sealed game you can't know what is originally included. Also the same game can have different inserts depending on when it was manufactured. So basically if I want something complete then I do expect some inserts included other than the manual and consumer info stuff.
For me personally:
Complete = inserts included
CIB = Cart/Instruction/Box minimum
Almost impossible to know what complete actually is though. People Frankenstein their games too much so you could do research but unless you are watching or doing an actual unboxing of a sealed game you can't know what is originally included. Also the same game can have different inserts depending on when it was manufactured. So basically if I want something complete then I do expect some inserts included other than the manual and consumer info stuff.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/322465869785
For me personally:
Complete = inserts included
CIB = Cart/Instruction/Box minimum
Almost impossible to know what complete actually is though. People Frankenstein their games too much so you could do research but unless you are watching or doing an actual unboxing of a sealed game you can't know what is originally included. Also the same game can have different inserts depending on when it was manufactured. So basically if I want something complete then I do expect some inserts included other than the manual and consumer info stuff.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/32246586...;
Link might be broke, it says the item was removed for me. What is it?
For me personally:
Complete = inserts included
CIB = Cart/Instruction/Box minimum
Almost impossible to know what complete actually is though. People Frankenstein their games too much so you could do research but unless you are watching or doing an actual unboxing of a sealed game you can't know what is originally included. Also the same game can have different inserts depending on when it was manufactured. So basically if I want something complete then I do expect some inserts included other than the manual and consumer info stuff.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/32246586...;
Link might be broke, it says the item was removed for me. What is it?
A CIB Lego set.
Cib for cart instructions box.
When I read CIB I assume Cart, Instructions, Box.
If you want all inserts, posters, epilepsy warning, etc - you are looking for Complete. But some might think Complete means *my* definition of CIB. And for GB games, the tray may not be included because it's not part of the CIB definition.
At the end of the day, it is all confusing. Best to get pictures or ask for specifics.
I'm OK with omitting food items, though, so you don't have to have a Fruit Roll-Up to call Gunstar Heroes complete.
oh good, I was hungry
Haha! This happened to me just recently. I got a small package of Haribo gummi bears with my copy of Super Meat Boy and I totally ate them.
Originally posted by: CZroe
CIB is meaningless unless we insist on it's original meaning: Complete In Box. The other issues, such as people who consider their item "Complete In Box" just because it has those three items, are ancillary. If they use CIB in their listing then they can expect the buyer to challenge it as not being as described. Their fault for ignorantly using the wrong term to describe their item.
"It's original meaning," in your opinion of course. This guy up from 2013 never hearing the "I" referred to as instructions, newer generation of collectors maybe?
For me personally:
Complete = inserts included
CIB = Cart/Instruction/Box minimum
Almost impossible to know what complete actually is though. People Frankenstein their games too much so you could do research but unless you are watching or doing an actual unboxing of a sealed game you can't know what is originally included. Also the same game can have different inserts depending on when it was manufactured. So basically if I want something complete then I do expect some inserts included other than the manual and consumer info stuff.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/32246586...;
Link might be broke, it says the item was removed for me. What is it?
A CIB Lego set.
Why link to a lego set? I think I am missing the context lol.
For me personally:
Complete = inserts included
CIB = Cart/Instruction/Box minimum
Almost impossible to know what complete actually is though. People Frankenstein their games too much so you could do research but unless you are watching or doing an actual unboxing of a sealed game you can't know what is originally included. Also the same game can have different inserts depending on when it was manufactured. So basically if I want something complete then I do expect some inserts included other than the manual and consumer info stuff.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/32246586...;
Link might be broke, it says the item was removed for me. What is it?
A CIB Lego set.
Why link to a lego set? I think I am missing the context lol.
he's saying in every other market CIB means complete in box. Video games is the only one where lines are blurred, they shouldn't be, but that's just the way it goes
Ah gotcha. I agree. I don't use complete or cib when I sell I just use the title of the game and take pictures of everything that is included. I was strictly speaking when I buy and I see the letters "CIB" it needs to at least have the cart/manual/box.
Then you might lose out on sales because people looking for complete or simply boxed with manual games are both going to expect to find CIB in your listing. Unfortunately, I would be forced to perpetuate this if I were selling boxed with manual even though I risk having my item refunded for not being "as described," since I agree that CIB literally means "Complete In Box." You can't win.
Ah gotcha. I agree. I don't use complete or cib when I sell I just use the title of the game and take pictures of everything that is included. I was strictly speaking when I buy and I see the letters "CIB" it needs to at least have the cart/manual/box.
Then you might lose out on sales because people looking for complete or simply boxed with manual games are both going to expect to find CIB in your listing. Unfortunately, I would be forced to perpetuate this if I were selling boxed with manual even though I risk having my item refunded for not being "as described," since I agree that CIB literally means "Complete In Box." You can't win.
For a person who lives on selling games, I would agree that they need to use cib and such. I don't though and just putting the name of the game usually gets whatever doubles I am selling bought within a few hours.
Only exceptions to this would be if the game came with say a poster or map, etc, that was specific to that game like for example in certain RPGs.
Of course this is my personal definition of what is CIB. I don't collect CIB anyways so it really doesn't even matter to me.
I never buy something based on CIB or complete in the title. I look at the pictures and make my own judgement. If they are poor pics or no pics then i pass.
Right, but do you at least thin the results to get rid of loose games using terms like "CIB" or "complete?" That's where it becomes important for the seller to include that term.
Also even though they were universal, I don't consider GB games CIB without the plastic case, nor do I consider NES games CIB without the styrofoam spacer.