Is it cool to bash Nintendo
Just wondering what the consensus is on this. It seems like it's a popular thing to do. Just bash Nintendo but still be an avid collector of their new and old products. Personally I don't get the thought behind it. It just seems like it's all the buzz. Bashing Nintendo is the flavor of the month it maybe?
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edit: I do think it is weird if you bash them now and still collect their new stuff. Not weird if you bash them now but collect NES/SNES since Nintendo has changed a lot since then.
"Bash them"? No. Call them out on the shit they do that is legit odd/makes no sense? Yes.
I don't understand why people shit on Nintendo and keep buying. Some things they have done lately do piss me off, but I'm still a fan.
Yeah, I'm with you. It's hypocritical.
Seems stupid to bash Nintendo yet still buy their products. I know there's lots of people that collect just old stuff and bash them, which I can at least understand. It's like bitching about a band "selling out" or whatever and turning to shit. It happens, enjoy the good stuff. Look at Metallica for example, the fuck happened with them. They made 4 great albums, then the 90's started and they just made garbage. There's still people that are like "Metallica sucks, only their old stuff is good" while in the crowd at their concert.
It's wrestling though, grown men shouldn't give 2 shits about it.
I worked with a semi-pro wrestler a while back, who eventually left my company to pursue it full time. When I told him I hadn't watched wrestling since I was in my early teens he got incredibly angry and never spoke to me again. Any time I watch a wrestling match I feel like my brain is dying.
It's wrestling though, grown men shouldn't give 2 shits about it.
I worked with a semi-pro wrestler a while back, who eventually left my company to pursue it full time. When I told him I hadn't watched wrestling since I was in my early teens he got incredibly angry and never spoke to me again. Any time I watch a wrestling match I feel like my brain is dying.
Probably for the best, you don't want to be friends with that guy. He'd probably just invite you over to wrestle, or watch wrestling, or talk about wrestling.
I don't bash on them though. They make wonderful games and keep me entertained for thousands of hours. They deserve respect for that at least.
I love Nintendo products. Even the switch seems cool and I'm going to fight the urge to buy one because I focus on vintage (yes, I did use that word) Nintendo games. I like their take on innovation and it surprises me how that make ridiculously creative decisions that seems to be bad at first, but end to pan out at the end. I respect this.
...but I can't stand their hyper-conservative business model. For all of there creativity in making fun games and hardware, my #1 beef has been for well over 20 years that they can't ever make enough hardware to meet demand in a reasonable amount of time. It's old-style Japanese business and it's stubborn to evolve.
Yes, I love Nintendo, but with each decade that passes and they refuse to change certain core business principles, the more certain I become that they will likely have to go the way of SEGA and start focusing strictly on hardware. But, of course, for all my gripes and complaints they are still around today, which I think is quite a feat.
Wii U era really tested how much I love Nintendo and is probably my least favorite Nintendo system (even though it had some great games), but so far I'm a big fan of the Switch.
I used to think with a first party Nintendo title, though, I wouldn't have to do that - I could count on quality out of the box with hours of enjoyment on the horizon... and then Star Fox Zero came out. I can't trust anything anymore.
Nintendo's been part of my life since I was two years old, and while I don't hold any stock in them and know that my complaints are gonna fall on deaf ears, when some bullshit happens like the Wii U being basically abandoned in favor of the 3DS, to the point where even titles that should be attracting consumers to the Wii U are being made multiplat (Smash, Mario Maker, Yoshi's Wooly World) and then they make another weird gimmicky toy with virtually the same specs as the Wii U... Yeah, I'm gonna bitch. When Star Fox Zero forces nasty controls on you when it could have been so easy to put in normal controls, when shit like Metroid Prime Federation Force even exists... Yeah, I'm gonna bitch.
It isn't unfounded to do so, it's called disappointment. It's a huge reason I'll pay a premium to get an old game CIB rather than buy a new one at retail.
It's no different then when a band you love starts releasing shitty albums
I'd say not really. We're talking about also still supporting the company when you're hating on them. Even if you buy an album you don't like, it's only like $10. Not a huge loss. Buying a Switch while still hating on Nintendo and saying they're shit is crazy because it sets you back hundreds. You're still showing big devotion to something you claim to hate.
I'm getting pretty jaded towards the entire industry at this point, where I don't look forward to any game and refuse to buy almost anything without watching footage or hearing good things from people I really trust to have taste and not settle for "good enough".
I used to think with a first party Nintendo title, though, I wouldn't have to do that - I could count on quality out of the box with hours of enjoyment on the horizon... and then Star Fox Zero came out. I can't trust anything anymore.
Nintendo's been part of my life since I was two years old, and while I don't hold any stock in them and know that my complaints are gonna fall on deaf ears, when some bullshit happens like the Wii U being basically abandoned in favor of the 3DS, to the point where even titles that should be attracting consumers to the Wii U are being made multiplat (Smash, Mario Maker, Yoshi's Wooly World) and then they make another weird gimmicky toy with virtually the same specs as the Wii U... Yeah, I'm gonna bitch. When Star Fox Zero forces nasty controls on you when it could have been so easy to put in normal controls, when shit like Metroid Prime Federation Force even exists... Yeah, I'm gonna bitch.
It isn't unfounded to do so, it's called disappointment. It's a huge reason I'll pay a premium to get an old game CIB rather than buy a new one at retail.
Yup. Don't forget Mario Tennis, what a piece of shit that was. It's very very rare that I see a brand new game that I really want to play.
Originally posted by: Loxx O)))
Originally posted by: Trj22487
It's no different then when a band you love starts releasing shitty albums
I'd say not really. We're talking about also still supporting the company when you're hating on them. Even if you buy an album you don't like, it's only like $10. Not a huge loss. Buying a Switch while still hating on Nintendo and saying they're shit is crazy because it sets you back hundreds. You're still showing big devotion to something you claim to hate.
So then just pretend the person in my scenario is still buying tickets to see this band in concert? Likes the old stuff, hates the new stuff? It's like how attending a New York Knicks game must be...or the people who go to Adam Sandler movies to point how how shitty they are and how awful he is.
I think Paul McCartney has made the shittiest music for the last 30 years, and had plenty of awful songs before that, really a corny guy in a lot of ways, but I've been collecting memorabilia and photographs of him for ages, and think he's arguably the greatest musician of all time. He both ruled, and sucked! He was one of the coolest guys ever at points, and one of the cheesiest ever at points! A lot like Phil Collins.