Too many Snes Repros
http://m.ebay.com/itm/Zombies-Ate-My-Neighbors-Super-Nintendo-SNES-Game-Reproduction-repro-FREE-SHIP-/162499118781?hash=item25d5b3c6bd:g:sVoAAOSwls5Y7EjT&_trkparms=pageci%3A555b526a-322b-11e7-a9f8-74dbd1809741%7Cparentrq%3Adc9a0e7315b0a9c135b96d3efffe0b68%7Ciid%3A4
Its getting insane when a game like Zombies ate my neighbors is being bootlegged. I used to feel super comfortable that stuff in this price range was real and only had to watch for a Repro labels. I don't get it, it's going to get to the point where it's cheaper to do and they are going to look even better. There has to be a good amount of these 20-30 dollar repro games in the wild being bought sold and traded to people none the wiser for it. I made a account just to talk about this because I collect pretty much exclusively Snes and sega genesis and I'm at my wits end with it.
Its getting insane when a game like Zombies ate my neighbors is being bootlegged. I used to feel super comfortable that stuff in this price range was real and only had to watch for a Repro labels. I don't get it, it's going to get to the point where it's cheaper to do and they are going to look even better. There has to be a good amount of these 20-30 dollar repro games in the wild being bought sold and traded to people none the wiser for it. I made a account just to talk about this because I collect pretty much exclusively Snes and sega genesis and I'm at my wits end with it.
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I let my gaming habits guide my collecting. That's what's fun for me. But if it's going to get to the point where any old thing is in danger of being fake, then it's not worth risking my money or spending the time to verify the board on every cart. I can always just build an emulator machine. But I really don't want it to come to that.
At least that listing is being honest in the title. I've seen too many that just say they're selling "new" copies. Though I've never understood the appeal of repros anyway. For the insanely rare ones most people will never get a copy of, it might be nice. But for everything else, you may as well emulate.
http://m.ebay.com/itm/Zombies-Ate...
Its getting insane when a game like Zombies ate my neighbors is being bootlegged. I used to feel super comfortable that stuff in this price range was real and only had to watch for a Repro labels. I don't get it, it's going to get to the point where it's cheaper to do and they are going to look even better. There has to be a good amount of these 20-30 dollar repro games in the wild being bought sold and traded to people none the wiser for it. I made a account just to talk about this because I collect pretty much exclusively Snes and sega genesis and I'm at my wits end with it.
Buy one then DEMAND a refund for their obvious counterfeit goods. You get your money back and a free game. Everyone comes out a winner.
$25 repro of a $30 game. Got it.
Yeah that's the part that trips me up about it, that really can't be a cost effective business model.
If you're buying even a moderately priced game is check out the board now a days. Doesn't matter I'd is ebay, a retro store, or a garage sale, unless you see the board you can't be 100% sure
Yup I agree unless it's like a $2 game. Anything $30 and up I need to see the board.
It reminds me of the situation with the Sega Genesis / Mega Drive unlicensed games. I remember about five years ago, I had been able to find some unlicensed originals, CIB or boxed, and had trouble moving some of them, even at $20 or $30, which astounded me. But then one day I looked on eBay and saw those games had been reproed to hell and back, and were being sold for $10 - $15, and suddenly I sadly realized that it was just part of life. If someone can buy a repro from Aliexpress or something for pennies on the dollar and flip it for $20 or $30, why not, especially multiple times. It is easy money, and is a case of quantity over quality (i.e. selling high-end games)
Let these idiots prey on the few hipsters that hit BIN with no research. The whole "it keeps getting back into circulation" theory is pretty weak, because at somepoint on a rare game somone is going to determine its fake.
http://m.ebay.com/itm/Zombies-Ate...
Its getting insane when a game like Zombies ate my neighbors is being bootlegged. I used to feel super comfortable that stuff in this price range was real and only had to watch for a Repro labels. I don't get it, it's going to get to the point where it's cheaper to do and they are going to look even better. There has to be a good amount of these 20-30 dollar repro games in the wild being bought sold and traded to people none the wiser for it. I made a account just to talk about this because I collect pretty much exclusively Snes and sega genesis and I'm at my wits end with it.
Buy one then DEMAND a refund for their obvious counterfeit goods. You get your money back and a free game. Everyone comes out a winner.
Thats not a bad idea!
They will always be here, and anyone who actually gives a shit about their collection will know how to check and be wary of it.
Let these idiots prey on the few hipsters that hit BIN with no research. The whole "it keeps getting back into circulation" theory is pretty weak, because at somepoint on a rare game somone is going to determine its fake.
I get where your coming from on rare games and people determining that it's fake at some point, I was talking more of seeing bootlegs of $20-$30 games which I've been seeing a lot more of, not even rare or uncommon stuff. No casual person is going to spend $100 up up for 1 old game.
While I do agree with your opinion, OP, I wonder if its such a bad thing. If a $100 game was in high demand with low supply, the value goes up. However, if theres a fresh supply of repros, the price for a real one won't climb as bad as it would without repros. Let the speed collectors, "retro" hipsters, and youtubers buy their made in China bullshit carts, and leave the real ones for those of us in it for the long haul.
That is a really interesting thought actually. I think between that and the market finding its peak eventually we actually might see some games come down in price, it's never going to be 2005 prices but better. I'm not much one for speculation on how things effect the market, in just someone who wants authentic carts of my favorite games.
$25 repro of a $30 game. Got it.
Check this one out, $40 for a fake Contra: Hardcorps manual lol:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/282325477201
While I do agree with your opinion, OP, I wonder if its such a bad thing. If a $100 game was in high demand with low supply, the value goes up. However, if theres a fresh supply of repros, the price for a real one won't climb as bad as it would without repros. Let the speed collectors, "retro" hipsters, and youtubers buy their made in China bullshit carts, and leave the real ones for those of us in it for the long haul.
Eh, I dunno. I have to think most people who would buy repros like this would just assume shell out $75 for a Raspberry Pi, or run emulators through their TV.
What I also wonder is, if the market is flooded with repros, will that drive prices down or up? High availability of cheap copies and difficulty in telling them apart at a glance seems like it would say down, but maybe it will make authentic carts all the more valuable.
http://m.ebay.com/itm/Zombies-Ate...
Its getting insane when a game like Zombies ate my neighbors is being bootlegged. I used to feel super comfortable that stuff in this price range was real and only had to watch for a Repro labels. I don't get it, it's going to get to the point where it's cheaper to do and they are going to look even better. There has to be a good amount of these 20-30 dollar repro games in the wild being bought sold and traded to people none the wiser for it. I made a account just to talk about this because I collect pretty much exclusively Snes and sega genesis and I'm at my wits end with it.
Buy one then DEMAND a refund for their obvious counterfeit goods. You get your money back and a free game. Everyone comes out a winner.
This is something I've had running around in my head for a while as well. If there were to be an organized response from the collecting community against the people selling unmarked repros I bet the issue could be resolved fairly quickly. Really all it would take is some popular Youtuber to tell their audience to go buy a couple counterfeit items on a certain day or week or something and then report the sellers to eBay for selling fake stuff. Once a seller gets a certain percentage of returns eBay will shut their account down.
http://m.ebay.com/itm/Zombies-Ate...
Its getting insane when a game like Zombies ate my neighbors is being bootlegged. I used to feel super comfortable that stuff in this price range was real and only had to watch for a Repro labels. I don't get it, it's going to get to the point where it's cheaper to do and they are going to look even better. There has to be a good amount of these 20-30 dollar repro games in the wild being bought sold and traded to people none the wiser for it. I made a account just to talk about this because I collect pretty much exclusively Snes and sega genesis and I'm at my wits end with it.
Buy one then DEMAND a refund for their obvious counterfeit goods. You get your money back and a free game. Everyone comes out a winner.
This is something I've had running around in my head for a while as well. If there were to be an organized response from the collecting community against the people selling unmarked repros I bet the issue could be resolved fairly quickly. Really all it would take is some popular Youtuber to tell their audience to go buy a couple counterfeit items on a certain day or week or something and then report the sellers to eBay for selling fake stuff. Once a seller gets a certain percentage of returns eBay will shut their account down.
But then what do you do with the piles of garbage you've accumulated? Does platic make good kindling?
http://m.ebay.com/itm/Zombies-Ate...
Its getting insane when a game like Zombies ate my neighbors is being bootlegged. I used to feel super comfortable that stuff in this price range was real and only had to watch for a Repro labels. I don't get it, it's going to get to the point where it's cheaper to do and they are going to look even better. There has to be a good amount of these 20-30 dollar repro games in the wild being bought sold and traded to people none the wiser for it. I made a account just to talk about this because I collect pretty much exclusively Snes and sega genesis and I'm at my wits end with it.
I'm 100% ok with what this auction is and for reproductions in general. He clearly states it is a reproduction as are a good portion of them I have seen recently on a few auctions. It is 100% the buyer's responsibility to determine the product is what they want before buying. If you aren't absolutely sure then don't buy it. No excuses.
Yes those people that try to pass off one as real are indeed douches but that doesn't excuse the perspective buyer from doing their research.
On on a semi related note I hope reproductions for mid-prices games continue to flood the market to help begin lowering prices because they are too damn high.
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Let me also say that I am all for reporting these auctions to ebay even though I have no problem with reproductions as a product. Because after all it is against ebay's policy.
They look like shit too. Who is this for? I just don't understand people
http://m.ebay.com/itm/Zombies-Ate...
Its getting insane when a game like Zombies ate my neighbors is being bootlegged. I used to feel super comfortable that stuff in this price range was real and only had to watch for a Repro labels. I don't get it, it's going to get to the point where it's cheaper to do and they are going to look even better. There has to be a good amount of these 20-30 dollar repro games in the wild being bought sold and traded to people none the wiser for it. I made a account just to talk about this because I collect pretty much exclusively Snes and sega genesis and I'm at my wits end with it.
Buy one then DEMAND a refund for their obvious counterfeit goods. You get your money back and a free game. Everyone comes out a winner.
This is something I've had running around in my head for a while as well. If there were to be an organized response from the collecting community against the people selling unmarked repros I bet the issue could be resolved fairly quickly. Really all it would take is some popular Youtuber to tell their audience to go buy a couple counterfeit items on a certain day or week or something and then report the sellers to eBay for selling fake stuff. Once a seller gets a certain percentage of returns eBay will shut their account down.
Wow that was way more thought than I would have perceived. I just suggested it cause I'm cheap.
Not that complicated. Lets put it this way:
Fake sold as fake: debatable. Some people like you (and me) dont like it. Some feel it harmless. No deception has happened, but the potential for later deception has been created.
Fake sold as real: clearcut that its crossed the line. Deception.
The guy says they are repros, is not trying to scam anyone, and it seems that there are a lot of people that want these carts. Buying and then opening a claim, all the while knowing what you are buying, seems almost a scam in itself, and trying to get someone's account / possible livelyhood shurt down as well, not cool.
Like I said it's just a thought that's been bouncing around my head since that other thread a few days ago, not necessarily a call to action. As far as getting someone's account/livelihood shut down..I'm assuming they are well aware of the risk involved when selling a product specifically banned by the platform.
The guy says they are repros, is not trying to scam anyone, and it seems that there are a lot of people that want these carts. Buying and then opening a claim, all the while knowing what you are buying, seems almost a scam in itself, and trying to get someone's account / possible livelyhood shurt down as well, not cool.
That IS a scam in itself. What's that old saying? "Two wrongs don't make a right?"
To quote bronty from another thread,:
Not that complicated. Lets put it this way:
Fake sold as fake: debatable. Some people like you (and me) dont like it. Some feel it harmless. No deception has happened, but the potential for later deception has been created.
Fake sold as real: clearcut that its crossed the line. Deception.
The best solution is here is fake sold as fake with clear, permanent marks on the label or design demonstrating its fakeness.