I'm very disapointed with this community right now.

You know we used to help each other around here. I myself even though very low income have sent money and free games around the country numerous times. I never asked for anything in return. It's always a pay it forward thing.



This is what this place used to be about other than just wanking about games.



friendship, community and support. I've seen unbelievable things happen here to help people in need.



Recently I posted about my bands album that we released. I know this is not a music forum but I'm sure a few of you listen to music and to my knowledge not one NA member downloaded it. I wouldn't expect anyone to purchase the Vinyl even though that was the goal of the project but man I thought a few of you would at least check it out for a buck a song Canadian. Oh well. I don't really give a shit if you support my music or not. There's always somehting more inportant to support and I'm not a charity.



But then our Brother Shannon (RSA2000)

Has a flood. Fucking 8 foot of water. He's getting married in 10 days and is having to stay in a hotel and travel back and forth trying to rescue his shit.

He had to hold his hand out and ask for help and that's not easy to do. So i post the story and a link to his gofundme and you know what $0 raised for our brother Shan from our NA family   I'm hitting the food banks up in the past couple months myself but I still sent $35 american.



I'm not sure who is still here and what this place is all about anymore





 
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  • I look forward to reading this later
  • Hey man, I definitely wanted to purchase the vinyl! I don't really listen to music on my computer. Link vinyl details when released please.
  • It's probably a bad time, bad economy, or something. What ever the excuse is, you shouldn't shame people who couldn't/didn't want to/ or didn't know. If the world was perfect, we wouldn't need to ask for any help.



    Always count the blessings, never the afflictions. Pessimism can bring forth demands and obligations toward people who also probably don't have anything to give.
  • Originally posted by: Kid Dracula



    Hey man, I definitely wanted to purchase the vinyl! I don't really listen to music on my computer. Link vinyl details when released please.



    Thanks Kid Please find the nice positive post I made to discuss that. This post isn't about the album or even the flood.

    It's about what happened to the community support? Those are just exapmples i used to show how I discovered the lack of support here now.



     
  • Originally posted by: BouncekDeLemos



    It's probably a bad time, bad economy, or something. What ever the excuse is, you shouldn't shame people who couldn't/didn't want to/ or didn't know. If the world was perfect, we wouldn't need to ask for any help.



    Always count the blessings, never the afflictions. Pessimism can bring forth demands and obligations toward people who also probably don't have anything to give.





    Amen 
  • Originally posted by: BouncekDeLemos



    It's probably a bad time, bad economy, or something. What ever the excuse is, you shouldn't shame people who couldn't/didn't want to/ or didn't know. If the world was perfect, we wouldn't need to ask for any help.



    Always count the blessings, never the afflictions. Pessimism can bring forth demands and obligations toward people who also probably don't have anything to give.



    You are absolutley right. I would never shame anyone who can't afford to give and yes it's so possible for so many to miss a post but ....Everyone?

    I'm not looking for support here or too get shan help on this thread. I'm asking what has happened to the community?

     
  • Don't know about you but I love the community here.
  • The community has grown. It isn't as tight knit as it used to be. There's more people. I bet many current active members don't know who you are, so why should they jump out of their way to help?
  • Originally posted by: Rocky



    Don't know about you but I love the community here.



    I've met lifelong friends here who will remain my best frinds for life. Those few know who they are.

    As far as the community I don't know?

    I'm not even worried about offending anyone or coming off like an asshole right now becuase those people who are my friends will understand.

     
  • I can personally vouch for the community and the generosity found here.



    My son Vincent a little less than a year ago suddenly died in his sleep at 13 months old. Wasn't a sick child...we just woke up to tragedy.



    The guys here rallied together and scrounged up a nice donation which helped kickstart my sons final resting place fund, and it really warmed my heart and completely changed me overnight. In fact even though there were people of different beliefs it really validates a scripture that reads "blessed are those who mourn, for they will be comforted"



    My personal anecdotes and tragedy aside, I remember donating when I first joined the site to Laserman when his house was robbed. I also know that the folks here donated to keep the site running. I know a lot of guys behind the scenes give each other gifts and moral support too.



    I'm sorry what's going on, and I'm sorry to generalize but I think your post just fell under the radar or something. We're very tight knit here, and silly nerdy arguments and even pseudo-enemies aside we stick together.



    NA despite its controversial status is an awesome place. I'm not sure what else I can say other than that.
  • Originally posted by: Bert

    The community has grown. It isn't as tight knit as it used to be. There's more people. I bet many current active members don't know who you are, so why should they jump out of their way to help?



    Yep. No reason for me to try to help some dudes I don't know. If you're not around often, perhaps that's what happens to the community. They leave, they move on. New people come. They mesh into the community, they become the community. You don't know this community because you have not actively been a part of this community for a bit as you said in your thread about your band. Can't complain about a community going down hill when you weren't around.
  • "Community member" seems to be a bit of a stretch. While rsa2000 is your friend, to be frank, he hasn't been on here since January of 2015 and only had 156 posts (and I honestly had no idea who he was).



    So while he is a member of NintendoAge, he hasn't been active in quite a while for any of the class of 2015/2016/2017 to get to know him, or for a lot of us to know him. If you're wondering if any of the old chat regulars are still around, Pete Diak just came back a few weeks ago, and most haven't been around in eons.



    Yes it's a shitty thing that happened, but as Bounce pointed out there are plenty of reasons why someone may not be able to donate, and the last thing that should happen is that those people feel shamed over it.
  • Originally posted by: del01

     
    Originally posted by: BouncekDeLemos



    It's probably a bad time, bad economy, or something. What ever the excuse is, you shouldn't shame people who couldn't/didn't want to/ or didn't know. If the world was perfect, we wouldn't need to ask for any help.



    Always count the blessings, never the afflictions. Pessimism can bring forth demands and obligations toward people who also probably don't have anything to give.



    You are absolutley right. I would never shame anyone who can't afford to give and yes it's so possible for so many to miss a post but ....Everyone?

    I'm not looking for support here or too get shan help on this thread. I'm asking what has happened to the community?

     

    Yeah, even everyone. May sound a bit harsh to say, but if everyone decides to not be charitable, that is indeed their prerogative, is it not? Otherwise, you might as well be demanding a donation/handout and not asking for one.



    If you're looking for answers, there's no one objectible answer. If there was, you'd be looking at it as something a little more derogatory.



    Again, count the blessings man.
  • I didn't like your music so I didn't buy it, I did give it a chance and gave it a listen though.



    As for the person who had a flood, that really sucks and I hope that he can get out of that mess without taking a big hit.



    Nobody should feel bad if they didn't help though.
  • Originally posted by: JosephLeo



    I can personally vouch for the community and the generosity found here.



    My son Vincent a little less than a year ago suddenly died in his sleep at 13 months old. Wasn't a sick child...we just woke up to tragedy.



    The guys here rallied together and scrounged up a nice donation which helped kickstart my sons final resting place fund, and it really warmed my heart and completely changed me overnight. In fact even though there were people of different beliefs it really validates a scripture that reads "blessed are those who mourn, for they will be comforted"



    My personal anecdotes and tragedy aside, I remember donating when I first joined the site to Laserman when his house was robbed. I also know that the folks here donated to keep the site running. I know a lot of guys behind the scenes give each other gifts and moral support too.



    I'm sorry what's going on, and I'm sorry to generalize but I think your post just fell under the radar or something. We're very tight knit here, and silly nerdy arguments and even pseudo-enemies aside we stick together.



    NA despite its controversial status is an awesome place. I'm not sure what else I can say other than that.



    I'm sorry for your loss.

    I know that this community has done wonderfully compassionate things as I mentioned in the post.

    I'm wondering if that is now lost. I was away for a period of time trying to make that record so I lost touch with the place.

    So this is why I ask. Who is is here and what is this place now?



    I want nothing more to find that I am still in the place I had to be away from for a while. I want to find that we are still family.

    While I am saddened by the tragedy of your post I appreciate you speaking for the communities kindness. It's what I need to hear right now. That we still are a community.

    Thanks





     
  • Originally posted by: BouncekDeLemos



    It's probably a bad time, bad economy, or something. What ever the excuse is, you shouldn't shame people who couldn't/didn't want to/ or didn't know. If the world was perfect, we wouldn't need to ask for any help.



    Always count the blessings, never the afflictions. Pessimism can bring forth demands and obligations toward people who also probably don't have anything to give.



    That can work both ways. If he's simplifying it, so are you.
  • Just a matter of not being familiar with you guys. I love to help people out, but I can't afford to be going on GoFundMe and supporting everybody having problems. I help out where I can.



    Regarding the music, I don't buy any. I just stream.



    The community here is great overall. I think people just weren't familiar enough with you guys to feel comfortable chipping in.
  • Originally posted by: TheToxieRules



    I didn't like your music so I didn't buy it, I did give it a chance and gave it a listen though.



    As for our NA friend, I had no idea who he was.....Sorry man.

    Thanks for checking out the tunes. I cetrainly wouldn't want anyone buying it that didn't enjoy it. Music is subjective to taste so I'm not even offended you didn't dig it. A lot of people who did get the record love it so I know we made a great record for those who dig the sound. I appreciate your honesty.











     
  • Originally posted by: Nirvana

     
    Originally posted by: BouncekDeLemos



    It's probably a bad time, bad economy, or something. What ever the excuse is, you shouldn't shame people who couldn't/didn't want to/ or didn't know. If the world was perfect, we wouldn't need to ask for any help.



    Always count the blessings, never the afflictions. Pessimism can bring forth demands and obligations toward people who also probably don't have anything to give.



    That can work both ways. If he's simplifying it, so are you.

    What can work both ways, and what is he simplifying?   



     
  • Originally posted by: captmorgandrinker



    "Community member" seems to be a bit of a stretch. While rsa2000 is your friend, to be frank, he hasn't been on here since January of 2015 and only had 156 posts (and I honestly had no idea who he was).



    So while he is a member of NintendoAge, he hasn't been active in quite a while for any of the class of 2015/2016/2017 to get to know him, or for a lot of us to know him. If you're wondering if any of the old chat regulars are still around, Pete Diak just came back a few weeks ago, and most haven't been around in eons.



    Yes it's a shitty thing that happened, but as Bounce pointed out there are plenty of reasons why someone may not be able to donate, and the last thing that should happen is that those people feel shamed over it.



    I just told the truth about how I was feeling and asked a question. How people feel about that is thier own choice which I don't have control over.

    By your account... I guess you can't go home again.

    When i have to be away for work or go on vacation my family welcomes me back when I get home.



     
  • I still love you del!
  • That's cool you gave the music a shot. That to me IS support.



    As I stated I'm asking a question and using examples of why I'm feeling confused.

    I never asked anyone to feel shame.


  • Your family knows who you are. A message board filled with members who came in your absence do not. You weren't shit on or hated. People don't know you or your friend. Maybe you should get back in the community and get to know people before judging them.
  • Originally posted by: BouncekDeLemos

     
    Originally posted by: Nirvana

     
    Originally posted by: BouncekDeLemos



    It's probably a bad time, bad economy, or something. What ever the excuse is, you shouldn't shame people who couldn't/didn't want to/ or didn't know. If the world was perfect, we wouldn't need to ask for any help.



    Always count the blessings, never the afflictions. Pessimism can bring forth demands and obligations toward people who also probably don't have anything to give.



    That can work both ways. If he's simplifying it, so are you.

    What can work both ways, and what is he simplifying?   



     

    As others have said, victimizing himself because people didn't donate to his cause is asinine. He's simplifying their intentions by trying to lump it all under one objective umbrella.



    ...And I'm not sure what my second point was now. Fuck off, I'm literally running like 2 hours of sleep here. Legit no lie, dude. I felt like you were simplifying... something, I just can't remember what it was anymore. Time for bed. At least I wrote this post with the retention of one good point. <_<
  • Originally posted by: del01



    That's cool you gave the music a shot. That to me IS support.



    As I stated I'm asking a question and using examples of why I'm feeling confused.

    I never asked anyone to feel shame.

     

    The very title of this thread suggests otherwise.



     
  • In OP's defense, I do think charity shouldn't have barriers. Why does it matter if you don't know the person or not?
  • God dammit. Another super controversial thread that wasn't started by me. I'm getting soft. o wellz



    nite guys  
  • I suppose I'm most saddned to see that so many of the old school familar crowd just isn't so much around anymore.



    I hope the new folks are as good to each other as we all used to be.


  • As a general rule I don't send people money, I don't even work right now. But I do try and support our homebrew scene, reviewing games and demos and trying to get the word out about what people here have made. There are people here I feel comfortable talking to in private messages, and some whose screen names I don't even recognize from post to post. The site is huge though and many members are transient. I think if you're looking for a close-knit internet "family", NA isn't really that place anymore. Although I'm sure there are some oldbies that feel that way about one another.
  • A couple years ago. I was dealing with a newborn who had gotten really sick. He was put on oxygen. Around the same time a backpack full of school books and other gear nearing the $5000 ranged was stolen. Shortly after my apartment flooded damaging my tv and many baby toys and clothes. I made a go fund me and only one of my real life friends donated and only like 3 people shared my link. I was very mad and frustrated and fed up. I blamed everyone else. Fast forward I have a healthy nearly 3 yr old. A Damn good job. Replaced most my shit and powered through. Shit happens. Just gotta deal.
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