Why are video game collectors so whiny when it comes to price hikes?

Many other hobbies, or at least, segments of hobbies go through dramatic price spikes at times as well.    What's with the man-children in this hobby that can't accept the fact that sometimes certain items get out of reach, and that you are not entitled to be able to afford something?



Discuss.   I really don't know what it is about this group.   I suspect that its because it skews young and includes some collectors that don't see themselves as such (?) but man, if this place was a physical space I'd pick it up and move it next to a Kleenex factory and a Massengill plant.

 
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  • I'd think game collecting is somewhat unique amongst collectibles in that some significant number of people buy SOME games to actually play them.



    Nobody is buying rare comic books to actually read them, because they don't want to fuck up the condition.

    Nobody is buying vintage toys to actually play with them.

    Nobody is collecting stamps or coins to actually use them.

    Baseball cards are good for fuck-all.



    I think the potential utility of the games definitely shifts how people feel about CERTAIN titles and pricing.



    Definitely doesn't directly account for people complaining about pricing on shit-to-play games, though.





  • Good question.



    Lot's of people are cheesed for really no reason. I guess the only real reason for their whininess is ignorance. Ignorance and stupidity?



    As discussed ad nauseam... there's so many ways to play the games (*coughs* emulators), that there's really a gap in logic in complaining about the prices.



    If you don't like the prices, get an emulator or everdrive. Simple.



    Complaining about the prices gets you nowhere and simply points out your ignorance in the hobby.



    I created this thread almost 2 years ago:



    http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=5&threadid=150842



    I'm cool with rising prices. Would I want to buy games at prices from 10 years ago?? Of course!! But I'm not dumb enough to complain about it because I understand supply, demand, and economics. It's quite simple really.



    People who are mad/complaining are just ignorant.
  • Originally posted by: arch_8ngel





    I'd think game collecting is somewhat unique amongst collectibles in that some significant number of people buy SOME games to actually play them.



    Nobody is buying rare comic books to actually read them, because they don't want to fuck up the condition.

    Nobody is buying vintage toys to actually play with them.

    Nobody is collecting stamps or coins to actually use them.

    Baseball cards are good for fuck-all.



    I think the potential utility of the games definitely shifts how people feel about CERTAIN titles and pricing.



    Definitely doesn't directly account for people complaining about pricing on shit-to-play games, though.





  • Originally posted by: AirVillain



    Good question.



    Lot's of people are cheesed for really no reason. I guess the only real reason for their whininess is ignorance. Ignorance and stupidity?



    As discussed ad nauseam... there's so many ways to play the games (*coughs* emulators), that there's really a gap in logic in complaining about the prices.



    If you don't like the prices, get an emulator or everdrive. Simple.



    Complaining about the prices gets you nowhere and simply points out your ignorance in the hobby.



    I created this thread almost 2 years ago:



    http://nintendoage.com/forum/mess...



    I'm cool with rising prices. Would I want to buy games at prices from 10 years ago?? Of course!! But I'm not dumb enough to complain about it because I understand supply, demand, and economics. It's quite simple really.



    People who are mad/complaining are just ignorant.



    Yeah, I know you're right.    Yesterday's six threads or so on the topic was just too much I guess     I should just be ignoring them but yesterday it was most of collector's corner!   



    How about some locks, mods?  

     
  • It is annoying, for sure. A lot of folks have a sense of entitlement, and many new collectors I find care a ton about showing off and bragging. Folks need to learn that cant have everything they want and have to work on finding away to get what they do want. Simple as that. DEAL WIT IT!
  • Originally posted by: AirVillain





    As discussed ad nauseam... there's so many ways to play the games (*coughs* emulators), that there's really a gap in logic in complaining about the prices.



    If you don't like the prices, get an emulator or everdrive. Simple.



    Complaining about the prices gets you nowhere and simply points out your ignorance in the hobby.



  • I understand the why and the how of the rising value of video games.. but it doesn't mean I have to like it. No sense in complaining about it either, since with anything collectable the values will adjust to the items available and popularity. However, I can be bummed that it's slowing down my ability to collect. Heck, I got into collecting late and caught the very beginning of the rising costs, so games were still fairly affordable... an people who are constantly compaining about the rise are just fooling themselves and can be an annoyance... but I don't fault those like myself who find it as an inconvenience at times. I didn't get involved for the money, like many of you I got involved for the fun of it.
  • Originally posted by: Bronty



    Yeah, I know you're right.    Yesterday's six threads or so on the topic was just too much I guess     I should just be ignoring them but yesterday it was most of collector's corner!   



    How about some locks, mods? 



    I wonder when the bubble will burst on all these bubble burst threads??  



    And ne$_pimp is right. DEAL WIT IT FOO!
  • Originally posted by: Bronty

     
     



    I agree that's the perception, but that's such a pile of horseshit ultimately Nathan.   



    First people DO read rare comics, some people enjoy that.    If I bought an action 1 tomorrow by some stroke of luck, I'd read it immediately.   



    More importantly, you don't need the carts to play the games.   Flash drives, etc.



    If we blend your points and mine above into one, I think that goes to what I was saying in that there is whole swath of collectors that *think/pretend* they are something else ('gamers', or what have you).

     

    I have to call "bullshit" on that one  



    Unless you are talking about some ass-condition copy.  





  • Originally posted by: Bronty

     
    Originally posted by: arch_8ngel





    I'd think game collecting is somewhat unique amongst collectibles in that some significant number of people buy SOME games to actually play them.



    Nobody is buying rare comic books to actually read them, because they don't want to fuck up the condition.

    Nobody is buying vintage toys to actually play with them.

    Nobody is collecting stamps or coins to actually use them.

    Baseball cards are good for fuck-all.



    I think the potential utility of the games definitely shifts how people feel about CERTAIN titles and pricing.



    Definitely doesn't directly account for people complaining about pricing on shit-to-play games, though.





  • Originally posted by: arch_8ngel

     
    Originally posted by: Bronty

     
     



    I agree that's the perception, but that's such a pile of horseshit ultimately Nathan.   



    First people DO read rare comics, some people enjoy that.    If I bought an action 1 tomorrow by some stroke of luck, I'd read it immediately.   



    More importantly, you don't need the carts to play the games.   Flash drives, etc.



    If we blend your points and mine above into one, I think that goes to what I was saying in that there is whole swath of collectors that *think/pretend* they are something else ('gamers', or what have you).

     

    I have to call "bullshit" on that one  



    Unless you are talking about some ass-condition copy.  







     



    Most of them are ass condition.    If I somehow got a mint one, no, I wouldn't read it, but anything up to a 4.0 or so (half million dollars), I'd read.    I've handled so many books that its really not scary for me to handle something valuable as long its already in a certain grade range and reading one would be a huge wish fulfillment for the 12 year old in me.

     
  • Originally posted by: Bronty

     


     





    I guess I missed your edits.   



    I suppose the other hobby I can think of where there is a lot of utility is pinball; you really can't replicate that with emulators.    I've only been into it for a short time but yeah there's some price whinging there too but not as bad as in our hobby and mostly more mature from what I've seen?



    Pinball (and arcade cabinets, as well) are a great example.



    But they have pretty much always had a "high price barrier" unless you get into raiding warehouses as your hobby.



  • Originally posted by: arch_8ngel

     
    Originally posted by: AirVillain





    As discussed ad nauseam... there's so many ways to play the games (*coughs* emulators), that there's really a gap in logic in complaining about the prices.



    If you don't like the prices, get an emulator or everdrive. Simple.



    Complaining about the prices gets you nowhere and simply points out your ignorance in the hobby.



  • It's the man-babies that collectarded the hobby.



    You know all those recent topics about bootlegs on ebay? High prices attract the pirates, so commenting on the collectards who are wrecking the hobby is fair game.
  • Folks also need to learn to adapt to the current market. When PS2 was the current gen console I was playing and collecting NES for cheap and there was lots of game available. Lately Ive been picking up PS2 games for cheap. I missed out on games like God of War during that time because I was busy playing Gyruss. I recently picked up God of War and God of War 2, $5 for both. I someone decides to collect for a more popular and older system they should expect market prices to reflect that.
  • Originally posted by: arch_8ngel

     
    Originally posted by: Bronty

     


     





    I guess I missed your edits.   



    I suppose the other hobby I can think of where there is a lot of utility is pinball; you really can't replicate that with emulators.    I've only been into it for a short time but yeah there's some price whinging there too but not as bad as in our hobby and mostly more mature from what I've seen?







  • Originally posted by: Bronty



    yeah, great point.    I think the fact video games are relatively a cheap collectible is ironically enough one of the reasons why people complain about prices.

    Hahaha, yeah. Good point.



    We were spoiled by years of $2 bargain bins!



    Even still. Complaining about high prices doesn't get anyone anywhere. Because it's all relative anyways. Yeah, some games are crazy expensive, but should they have even cost $2 in a bargain bin 20 years ago? Maybe not...
  • Originally posted by: AirVillain

     
    Originally posted by: arch_8ngel

     
    Originally posted by: AirVillain





    As discussed ad nauseam... there's so many ways to play the games (*coughs* emulators), that there's really a gap in logic in complaining about the prices.



    If you don't like the prices, get an emulator or everdrive. Simple.



    Complaining about the prices gets you nowhere and simply points out your ignorance in the hobby.



  • Well, when wanting to play carts on a console but not willing to pay prices there is a way around it. Repros, woo! Of course, that's not authentic, but you have a cart in hand that looks pretty and slides into a machine.



    I know, that's taboo thinking around these parts.
  • Originally posted by: Bronty

     
    Originally posted by: arch_8ngel

     
    Originally posted by: Bronty

     


     





    I guess I missed your edits.   



    I suppose the other hobby I can think of where there is a lot of utility is pinball; you really can't replicate that with emulators.    I've only been into it for a short time but yeah there's some price whinging there too but not as bad as in our hobby and mostly more mature from what I've seen?







  • Originally posted by: Bronty

    Originally posted by: arch_8ngel

     
    Originally posted by: Bronty

     


     





    I guess I missed your edits.   



    I suppose the other hobby I can think of where there is a lot of utility is pinball; you really can't replicate that with emulators.    I've only been into it for a short time but yeah there's some price whinging there too but not as bad as in our hobby and mostly more mature from what I've seen?







  • Originally posted by: AirVillain

     
    Originally posted by: Bronty



    yeah, great point.    I think the fact video games are relatively a cheap collectible is ironically enough one of the reasons why people complain about prices.

    Hahaha, yeah. Good point.



    We were spoiled by years of $2 bargain bins!

     



    Right, I guess so.    I also wonder if there aren't a bunch of people, for the first time, coming to grips with not being able to buy everything they want.



    For example, when I was young (say 11-25) comics were what I collected most.    I always, from day one, had many many items that were out of reach.     So... not being able to afford certain items was part of the expectations up front.



    I think some people went into this, or go into this, expecting everything will be attainable and are now coming to grips with the fact some things may not be, for the first time, and thus are Massengilling all over the boards.

     
  • Keep on mashing those BINs, "collectors."
  • Originally posted by: arch_8ngel

     
    Originally posted by: AirVillain

     
    Originally posted by: arch_8ngel

     
    Originally posted by: AirVillain





    As discussed ad nauseam... there's so many ways to play the games (*coughs* emulators), that there's really a gap in logic in complaining about the prices.



    If you don't like the prices, get an emulator or everdrive. Simple.



    Complaining about the prices gets you nowhere and simply points out your ignorance in the hobby.



  • Originally posted by: AirVillain

     
     





    Logically, if someone understands pricing and the hobby then they wouldn't complain about high prices. Wanting authentic games, but complaining about the very nature of those games is where the gap is.





    I'm assuming we aren't talking about somebody new to the hobby, today, bitching about the price of something that was priced before they entered the hobby.



  • Originally posted by: arch_8ngel

     
    Originally posted by: AirVillain

    Logically, if someone understands pricing and the hobby then they wouldn't complain about high prices. Wanting authentic games, but complaining about the very nature of those games is where the gap is.



    I'm assuming we aren't talking about somebody new to the hobby, today, bitching about the price of something that was priced before they entered the hobby.



  • Originally posted by: Gentlegamer



    Keep on mashing those BINs, "collectors."

    Okey-dokey!



     
  • Originally posted by: Loxx O)))



    Well, when wanting to play carts on a console but not willing to pay prices there is a way around it. Repros, woo! Of course, that's not authentic, but you have a cart in hand that looks pretty and slides into a machine.



    I know, that's taboo thinking around these parts.

    The only issue (though it's a big one) is if it got out in the wild and was mistaken for being genuine. That's why flashcarts are the preferred alternative around here.



     
  • Originally posted by: arch_8ngel

     
    Originally posted by: Bronty

     


     





    I guess I missed your edits.   



    I suppose the other hobby I can think of where there is a lot of utility is pinball; you really can't replicate that with emulators.    I've only been into it for a short time but yeah there's some price whinging there too but not as bad as in our hobby and mostly more mature from what I've seen?



    Pinball (and arcade cabinets, as well) are a great example.



    But they have pretty much always had a "high price barrier" unless you get into raiding warehouses as your hobby.



  • Originally posted by: teh lurv

     
    Originally posted by: arch_8ngel

     
    Originally posted by: Bronty

     


     





    I guess I missed your edits.   



    I suppose the other hobby I can think of where there is a lot of utility is pinball; you really can't replicate that with emulators.    I've only been into it for a short time but yeah there's some price whinging there too but not as bad as in our hobby and mostly more mature from what I've seen?



    Pinball (and arcade cabinets, as well) are a great example.



    But they have pretty much always had a "high price barrier" unless you get into raiding warehouses as your hobby.



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