Video Game Collecting has a long way to go

Pulled from espn..........

 

A pair of Michael Jordan's shoes was sold at auction for the highest price on record for a pair of game-used sneakers.The shoes, said to be used in the gold-medal game against Spain in the 1984 Olympics, sold early Sunday morning for $190,373.



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The other star of the auction was the T206 Honus Wagner card, the most famous card in sports collecting. That card, even in rough shape (graded a 1 out of 10) sold for $609,294. The collector who consigned the card to the auction, J. Ross Greene, paid $48,000 for it in 1996. A T206 Wagner, graded a 1, last sold in 2009 for $400,000. The highest price for a Wagner card, which is the record for any baseball card, was set last year at $3.12 million.



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  • Okay and what do you think that prototype Sony snes would reach??? Because comparing stadium events to Jordan's shoes isn't even fair....
  • Why spend that much for shoes? what a loser. at least I wear my shoes.
  • Originally posted by: romiked2689



    Okay and what do you think that prototype Sony snes would reach??? Because comparing stadium events to Jordan's shoes isn't even fair....

    Maybe, but the baseball card is a fair comparison to stadium events IMO. The point is that, even though video games are "expensive" right now, they are still a cheap hobby in comparison to a lot of others out there. 

     
  • Somewhat off topic, but didn't they find out that the Honus Wagner that kept setting sales records in the 90s and was once owned by Gretzky's group was trimmed?
  • Originally posted by: xMaGuSx

     
    Originally posted by: romiked2689



    Okay and what do you think that prototype Sony snes would reach??? Because comparing stadium events to Jordan's shoes isn't even fair....

    Maybe, but the baseball card is a fair comparison to stadium events IMO. The point is that, even though video games are "expensive" right now, they are still a cheap hobby in comparison to a lot of others out there. 

     





    Notice I didn't touch the rarest baseball card argument. Cards and comics are way more expensive. 
  • SE to Wagner doesn't make sense cause if different eras. Like taking a mint low miles original sportscar from the 50s to a first gen Acura NSX. Both above MSRP with lots of demand but the new stuff is nowhere near the prices of old.
  • Shoes are meant to be worn!
  • Originally posted by: MrWunderful



    Shoes are meant to be worn!

    Yup, they belong on the feet of someone who will appreciate them.  Not displayed in someones house somewhere   



    On a side note....i wonder if you put them on, do you really become "like mike"..........i guess only Lil Bow Wow knows the answer. 



     
  • Originally posted by: MrWunderful

    Shoes are meant to be worn!





    Sealed games are meant to be played!  
  • People in the world wearing 2L pop bottles as shoes and we are over here just spending thousands on a single pair.
  • Well games are a young hobby and I believe in years to come we will see prices continue to go up. A better comparison of video games really should be other items of hobby that debuted in the last 50 years. Transformers is a good comparison. Pogs... VHS... as far as I can gather video games as a whole are doing better than other hobbies, by both price and demand.
  • This sort of auction appeals to show collectors and sports collectors. It's has a far larger audience and a history behind it. It could be compared to Thors copy of NWC I suppose. However far more people know who Micheal Jordan is and what the Olympics are.

    As for SE there is no comparison. The only folks that care about that collectable are those going for a complete nes set and folks looking to sell
  • Ok, nomally I keep quiet about stuff like this, but the thing is, video games are way too new. In some places, you can still find this crap new and I'm almost willing to bet that even some new NES games can be found in a warehouse somewhere. A honus wagner card is over 100 years old at this point and cheap cardboard that were sold with boxes of cigarettes. There are some less than 16 or so. So to think that within the next fifty or so years, that any game can be worth over 100k usd (unless our money continuously becomes more inflated) is insane to me. Most of these games including stadium events and such were mass produced. Now where all the stadium events carts are, I have no clue. But the point is, retail games (no protos or nwc) could never be worth that much. Things like protos or the holy grail nintendo playstation could maybe get that high IF they survive long enough as eeproms lose their data over time unfortunately, same with flash.



    In all reality, to speculate is a little silly. Its only dependant on the who and how many people are interested in the game. Eventually, the amount of people who give a damn about for example power blade 2 is going to decrease. And as demand goes down so does price. It also depends on the person, do they have enough money to drop on a game. Would I drop *insert price for SE* stadium events, absofuckinglutly not. That game sucks. But for the collector who wants to complete something sure. So what I'm saying is that there are an insanely few who not only have the cash to drop, but are actively showing interest in the game are slimmer the more expensive it gets.

    I dont understand the shoes though. But thats just me.
  • Originally posted by: TheToxieRules



    People in the world wearing 2L pop bottles as shoes and we are over here just spending thousands on a single pair.



    A USED pair, no less.
  • Originally posted by: Gloves

     
    Originally posted by: TheToxieRules



    People in the world wearing 2L pop bottles as shoes and we are over here just spending thousands on a single pair.



    A USED pair, no less.



    I wonder what a mario 3 cart used by shigeru miyamoto would go for

     
  • Originally posted by: Bert

     
    Originally posted by: Gloves

     
    Originally posted by: TheToxieRules



    People in the world wearing 2L pop bottles as shoes and we are over here just spending thousands on a single pair.



    A USED pair, no less.



    I wonder what a mario 3 cart used by shigeru miyamoto would go for

     



    I have just such a copy, wanna buy it? ;P
  • Originally posted by: Gloves

     
    Originally posted by: Bert

     
    Originally posted by: Gloves

     
    Originally posted by: TheToxieRules



    People in the world wearing 2L pop bottles as shoes and we are over here just spending thousands on a single pair.



    A USED pair, no less.



    I wonder what a mario 3 cart used by shigeru miyamoto would go for

     



    I have just such a copy, wanna buy it? ;P





    300? No 400. Ok, 600 dollars?
  • Originally posted by: Bert

     
    Originally posted by: Gloves

     
    Originally posted by: Bert

     
    Originally posted by: Gloves

     
    Originally posted by: TheToxieRules



    People in the world wearing 2L pop bottles as shoes and we are over here just spending thousands on a single pair.



    A USED pair, no less.



    I wonder what a mario 3 cart used by shigeru miyamoto would go for

     



    I have just such a copy, wanna buy it? ;P





    300? No 400. Ok, 600 dollars?



    You're breakin' muh balls here man.
  • Originally posted by: Gloves

     
    Originally posted by: Bert



    300? No 400. Ok, 600 dollars?



    You're breakin' muh balls here man.





     
  • Originally posted by: Bert

     
    Originally posted by: Gloves

     
    Originally posted by: TheToxieRules



    People in the world wearing 2L pop bottles as shoes and we are over here just spending thousands on a single pair.



    A USED pair, no less.



    I wonder what a mario 3 cart used by shigeru miyamoto would go for

     



    It's really not comparable though.   Shiggy signing a random Mario 3 is like Jordan signing a random pair of air Jordan shoes.    The value here is a shoes from a specific game.   I'm not sure it really translates but if you were going to find something comparable it would have to be a specific item there can only be one of that was used at a specific and significant moment in shiggys career

     
  • Originally posted by: SNESNESCUBE64



    Ok, nomally I keep quiet about stuff like this, but the thing is, video games are way too new. In some places, you can still find this crap new and I'm almost willing to bet that even some new NES games can be found in a warehouse somewhere. A honus wagner card is over 100 years old at this point and cheap cardboard that were sold with boxes of cigarettes. There are some less than 16 or so. So to think that within the next fifty or so years, that any game can be worth over 100k usd (unless our money continuously becomes more inflated) is insane to me. Most of these games including stadium events and such were mass produced. Now where all the stadium events carts are, I have no clue. But the point is, retail games (no protos or nwc) could never be worth that much. Things like protos or the holy grail nintendo playstation could maybe get that high IF they survive long enough as eeproms lose their data over time unfortunately, same with flash.



    In all reality, to speculate is a little silly. Its only dependant on the who and how many people are interested in the game. Eventually, the amount of people who give a damn about for example power blade 2 is going to decrease. And as demand goes down so does price. It also depends on the person, do they have enough money to drop on a game. Would I drop *insert price for SE* stadium events, absofuckinglutly not. That game sucks. But for the collector who wants to complete something sure. So what I'm saying is that there are an insanely few who not only have the cash to drop, but are actively showing interest in the game are slimmer the more expensive it gets. I dont understand the shoes though. But thats just me.

    Well, some stuff is pretty well half that already.   You don't think a sealed SE will double in 50 years?   That's too pessisimistic 



     
  • Originally posted by: Bronty

    Originally posted by: Bert

     
    Originally posted by: Gloves

     
    Originally posted by: TheToxieRules



    People in the world wearing 2L pop bottles as shoes and we are over here just spending thousands on a single pair.



    A USED pair, no less.



    I wonder what a mario 3 cart used by shigeru miyamoto would go for

     



    It's really not comparable though.   Shiggy signing a random Mario 3 is like Jordan signing a random pair of air Jordan shoes.    The value here is a shoes from a specific game.   I'm not sure it really translates but if you were going to find something comparable it would have to be a specific item there can only be one of that was used at a specific and significant moment in shiggys career

     



    the Wii remote from the Wii music performance? 
  • Originally posted by: Bronty

     
    Originally posted by: SNESNESCUBE64

    ...

    Well, some stuff is pretty well half that already.   You don't think a sealed SE will double in 50 years?   That's too pessisimistic 

    I don't think that's a too pessimistic. I think it is absolutely insane that a stadium events could be worth much more than a 100k. Not unless the USD completely tanks and becomes as worthless as the Iranian Rial. Sure sealed is insanely rare at this point. But I am going to stick to my guns and say that there are more sealed copies of them than what is currently believed. They were manufactured some 30-40 years ago, they could be still stored somewhere in some warehouse owned by whatever company out there and that will literally kill the market. However, no more NWCs were produced. That I can see going for 100k+. So why was a game that was mass produced, which it had to be, because it would not even make any financial sense from a large company not to mass produce a game rather than some 100 or so, it would cost too much in terms of setting up the line to do so. My thought process is that nintendo bought the rights after seeing it come out in the PAL regions and just rebranded it. Or maybe I'm completely wrong and truely not a whole lot were made and the line was stopped partway through production because some were sold in stores. But theres a lot of controversy behind SE's story so lets not go there.



    In terms of gaming, naturally games will go up, but not as much as some people may think. I just have a hard time seeing a game like, I dont know contra on NES go for $100. At some point there has to be a cap on what someone will spend for a peice of software stuck in a peice of hardware.



    I tell you what, if I am wrong and in fifty years when a game like that will take 5 years worth of my salary to get, I will drive to whereever you are at and buy you a cold one and say "I was wrong"  . Because I've been wrong before. I'm not trying to really start something, I'm just throwing my opinion out there.
  • This isn't a very good comparison. Games that are sold to the public are meant to be played and are made with prints of mass quantities. So even the collectible aspect is all over the place on this one. Even the prototypes weren't really meant to see the light of day. Even the second pair of shoes was sold for auction.



    You want the rarest of rare games to be sold for more?
  • Originally posted by: Submissive421



    This isn't a very good comparison. Games that are sold to the public are meant to be played and are made with prints of mass quantities. So even the collectible aspect is all over the place on this one. Even the prototypes weren't really meant to see the light of day. Even the second pair of shoes was sold for auction.



    You want the rarest of rare games to be sold for more?



    well in the early 1900s it was probably pretty easy to find those cards

     
  • Originally posted by: SNESNESCUBE64

     
    Originally posted by: Bronty

     
    Originally posted by: SNESNESCUBE64

    ...

    Well, some stuff is pretty well half that already.   You don't think a sealed SE will double in 50 years?   That's too pessisimistic 

    I don't think that's a too pessimistic. I think it is absolutely insane that a stadium events could be worth much more than a 100k. Not unless the USD completely tanks and becomes as worthless as the Iranian Rial. Sure sealed is insanely rare at this point. But I am going to stick to my guns and say that there are more sealed copies of them than what is currently believed. They were manufactured some 30-40 years ago, they could be still stored somewhere in some warehouse owned by whatever company out there and that will literally kill the market. However, no more NWCs were produced. That I can see going for 100k+. So why was a game that was mass produced, which it had to be, because it would not even make any financial sense from a large company not to mass produce a game rather than some 100 or so, it would cost too much in terms of setting up the line to do so. My thought process is that nintendo bought the rights after seeing it come out in the PAL regions and just rebranded it. Or maybe I'm completely wrong and truely not a whole lot were made and the line was stopped partway through production because some were sold in stores. But theres a lot of controversy behind SE's story so lets not go there.



    In terms of gaming, naturally games will go up, but not as much as some people may think. I just have a hard time seeing a game like, I dont know contra on NES go for $100. At some point there has to be a cap on what someone will spend for a peice of software stuck in a peice of hardware.



    I tell you what, if I am wrong and in fifty years when a game like that will take 5 years worth of my salary to get, I will drive to whereever you are at and buy you a cold one and say "I was wrong"  . Because I've been wrong before. I'm not trying to really start something, I'm just throwing my opinion out there.



    Just saying, 50 years is a long time.   It would be pretty well impossible for stuff not to be worth that in time even with regular inflation.   



    50 years ago comicsand card worth a million were like 100 bucks.   
  • Originally posted by: Bert



    Why spend that much for shoes? what a loser. at least I wear my shoes.



    You think people having Stadium Event play it?

     
  • Originally posted by: TheBiRD

    Originally posted by: Bert



    Why spend that much for shoes? what a loser. at least I wear my shoes.



    You think people having Stadium Event play it?

     



    It was a joke
  • I seriously doubt retro gaming will ever reach those levels of popularity.



    Comparing something as universal as baseball or basketball is not a fair comparison.
  • Originally posted by: Bronty

     
    Originally posted by: SNESNESCUBE64

     
    Originally posted by: Bronty

     
    Originally posted by: SNESNESCUBE64

    ...

    Well, some stuff is pretty well half that already.   You don't think a sealed SE will double in 50 years?   That's too pessisimistic 

    I don't think that's a too pessimistic. I think it is absolutely insane that a stadium events could be worth much more than a 100k. Not unless the USD completely tanks and becomes as worthless as the Iranian Rial. Sure sealed is insanely rare at this point. But I am going to stick to my guns and say that there are more sealed copies of them than what is currently believed. They were manufactured some 30-40 years ago, they could be still stored somewhere in some warehouse owned by whatever company out there and that will literally kill the market. However, no more NWCs were produced. That I can see going for 100k+. So why was a game that was mass produced, which it had to be, because it would not even make any financial sense from a large company not to mass produce a game rather than some 100 or so, it would cost too much in terms of setting up the line to do so. My thought process is that nintendo bought the rights after seeing it come out in the PAL regions and just rebranded it. Or maybe I'm completely wrong and truely not a whole lot were made and the line was stopped partway through production because some were sold in stores. But theres a lot of controversy behind SE's story so lets not go there.



    In terms of gaming, naturally games will go up, but not as much as some people may think. I just have a hard time seeing a game like, I dont know contra on NES go for $100. At some point there has to be a cap on what someone will spend for a peice of software stuck in a peice of hardware.



    I tell you what, if I am wrong and in fifty years when a game like that will take 5 years worth of my salary to get, I will drive to whereever you are at and buy you a cold one and say "I was wrong"  . Because I've been wrong before. I'm not trying to really start something, I'm just throwing my opinion out there.



    Just saying, 50 years is a long time.   It would be pretty well impossible for stuff not to be worth that in time even with regular inflation.   



    50 years ago comicsand card worth a million were like 100 bucks.   



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    In the 1970 Overstreet comic price guide a mint copy of Action #1 was $300, Amazing Fantasy #15 was $16, Amazing Spiderman#1 was $5, Fantastic Four #1 was $30 and Marvel Mystery was $250.



     
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