Sega CD/Saturn collectors-- What's the best way to safely store games?

I have over 50 Saturn games and most of them are in pretty good condition.  However, one problem that even the best have is that the manuals are all warped.  I think this is because the proprietary CD cases, when standing up-right, have some much spacious room inside, that over the 20+ years that these games have sat on shelves, they've warped do to gravitational strain on the books.



I currently have all of my games on bookshelves, standing upright as you'd expect, but I'd prefer to prevent my manuals from further warping, if there is a good way to fix this.



I'm guessing that I could choose to stack my games on top of one another, lying them horizontally rather than standing them vertically, but if I put it manual-side down, then there is the chance that with time the discs could fall down and scratch, I guess.



I'm curious, is anyone else annoyed by this design and possibly have a good solution or is, unfortunately, the best way to display this is to stand them vertically as they were initially intended?

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  • I have them all vertical but if you were to stack horizontally, I'd go manual face down to combat the gravity pull.
  • Yeah, that's what I meant and I should have been more specific. I'm really curious if anyone else takes issue with this like I am, or if within the collector community this is just a generally accepted flaw in the design.



    I have a few rare games in otherwise mint shape and I'd prefer to fix/prevent this issue from getting worse.
  • Originally posted by: rlh



    I'm curious, is anyone else annoyed by this design



    Annoyed by the oversized, fragile, frequently missing hinges, basically irreplacable Sega cases? I don't think I've heard anyone not like them!



    You have foam inserts and unbroken hinges in all your games? The foam holds the manual against the plastic, which will prevent sag over a case without foam at least. Beyond that, it's never bothered me.
  • True, I didn't think of that. Yeah, I probably have 8-10 foam blocks. I personally don't count those as part of being "complete". I see the point of them now so I should probably reshuffle them to my rarer games.



    Also let me rephrase "annoyed by this design". I meant "annoyed by this design enough to do something about it"
  • I have a fairly sizable Saturn collection and for any that are excessively bowing I would agree with the foam to push it back into position. I accept the fact there they may be some level of bowing but the degree of the arc shouldn't get so much that the manual curls up and comes out of it's front tabs.



    I personally have ZERO qualms with using whatever first or third party foam blocks to accomplish this, others, just like with other systems, may likely disagree with me to this end.
  • If you want to, take small size bubble wrap and cut it to length and width--layer it in there enough so it closes snuggly. The original little foam blocks that originally came with the games help, but don't do a very good job over time.
  • I bought a bunch of the foam inserts for these games on ebay and put them in. they're a must for everything from sega cd/saturn to the early ps1 games.
  • Originally posted by: wesr



    I bought a bunch of the foam inserts for these games on ebay and put them in. they're a must for everything from sega cd/saturn to the early ps1 games.

    This.



     
  • I wish we could Kickstart someone to make new cases for these games. In terms of pure fragility, these games are getting super hard to find in good condition between broken hinges, and scratching.
  • Let's talk about the back insert warping or getting moisture. What in the hell Saturn?
  • I agree I wish someone would make these things again. I've been buying really shitty sega cd games and using the cases but half the time the sellers don't pack them well and they end up a mess thanks to the post office. I think one guy knew why i bought it because he had so much packing material around it that nothing was going to get near it lol
  • I gave up on replacement cases a while ago and just went with regular DVD cases with custom covers. I never got rid of my original cases. They are all in storage. But I still end up with the curling manual issue for the same reasons as the OP. I still don't have a good solution for it.



    I can't think of anything positive about long box jewel cases outside of the fact that they do look good when they are mint.
  • I'm considering pulling all of my manuals out and storing them stacked flat. I'm a collector first, player second kind of guy, so I want to take care of my stuff be keep it accessible.



    I guess keeping the manuals separate could work, but first I'll try the bubble wrap trick.



    Regarding kickstarting new cases, I'm shocked these cases aren't already on one of those China-direct sites. Sure the junk is cheaply made but, at this point certainly the condition is better than most of these cases.
  • Face side down. Do not stack more then five on top of one another.

    If you have warped manuals they will go back into shape over time, you could also put warped manuals between stacked books for a couple of months, to fix them.
  • Originally posted by: rlh

    I'm considering pulling all of my manuals out and storing them stacked flat. I'm a collector first, player second kind of guy, so I want to take care of my stuff be keep it accessible.



    I guess keeping the manuals separate could work, but first I'll try the bubble wrap trick.



    Regarding kickstarting new cases, I'm shocked these cases aren't already on one of those China-direct sites. Sure the junk is cheaply made but, at this point certainly the condition is better than most of these cases.



    They probably just don't think there's enough interest re: repro cases. As soon as someone does a successful Kickstarter, the clones will come out of the wood work.
  • Im surprised nobody cares if the cases are original and want Repros. The fact that they're fragile makes it all the more satisfying when they are mint, no different then a cardboard box
  • Originally posted by: Bert



    Im surprised nobody cares if the cases are original and want Repros. The fact that they're fragile makes it all the more satisfying when they are mint, no different then a cardboard box



    I do. Repro cases for saturn are silly, Im glad they arent around. I also enjoy a Mint saturn game, always felt the fragility was part of their charm. 

     
  • I haven't thought about it because no one makes 'em. I've just grabbed all the cheap Joe Montana's NFL Footballs at conventions and swapped them out (Collecting faux pas. Don't call the case swap police). If they were indistinguishable I don't think I'd care much or even know. I would guess some of my Playstation games have replacement jewel case covers I'll never know about. I probably have repro foam I don't know about too  
  • Originally posted by: DefaultGen

    I haven't thought about it because no one makes 'em. I've just grabbed all the cheap Joe Montana's NFL Footballs at conventions and swapped them out (Collecting faux pas. Don't call the case swap police).



    that's different, It's still an original case
  • I always fix my manual warping problem by cutting a piece of cardboard and inserting on top of the manual underneath the plastic tabs. Makes the manual stand up right and give the front of the case some more stability. So whatever old boxes you have laying around can be put to good use. You can't see the cardboard piece until you open up the game. Plus Saturn and Sega CD games are getting more expensive so I try to keep them safe. Plus I use plastic protectors on my rare games as well
  • Originally posted by: Submissive421



    I always fix my manual warping problem by cutting a piece of cardboard and inserting on top of the manual underneath the plastic tabs. Makes the manual stand up right and give the front of the case some more stability. So whatever old boxes you have laying around can be put to good use. You can't see the cardboard piece until you open up the game. Plus Saturn and Sega CD games are getting more expensive so I try to keep them safe. Plus I use plastic protectors on my rare games as well



    Ding ding ding!  I think we have a winner for the best solution.  I can save the foams for the thicker manuals that don't have room for cardboard.

     
  • Thanks RLH. They designed the cases very poorly. But they saved enough room to use cardboard.
  • Originally posted by: MrNESGuy



    I wish we could Kickstart someone to make new cases for these games. In terms of pure fragility, these games are getting super hard to find in good condition between broken hinges, and scratching.



    Someone semi-tried a ways ago and everyone balked at the price.

    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/449713938/70143109?token=ddf1d420

     
  • Originally posted by: Limbofunk

     
    Originally posted by: MrNESGuy



    I wish we could Kickstart someone to make new cases for these games. In terms of pure fragility, these games are getting super hard to find in good condition between broken hinges, and scratching.



    Someone semi-tried a ways ago and everyone balked at the price.

    https://www.kickstarter.com/proje...

     



    I used to live in Toledo during this timeframe and I never heard of these guys and I don't remember them having a retail store.  Not much info was given by them on the process and the KS page looks like it was made by 2 dudes with little to no experience unless they were trying to do it all themselves, which I don't think you can do on any sort of large scale.  I'm not surprised people balked at that price at that time as you could still find some bargain games for Sega CD at that price or cheaper.  Plus the pricing seems odd (10 for $100, but 20 for $250?).  Personally, I'd shell out anything under $10 for new cases nowadays since they are getting so hard to find.  

     
  • Originally posted by: Limbofunk

     
    Originally posted by: MrNESGuy



    I wish we could Kickstart someone to make new cases for these games. In terms of pure fragility, these games are getting super hard to find in good condition between broken hinges, and scratching.



    Someone semi-tried a ways ago and everyone balked at the price.

    https://www.kickstarter.com/proje...

     



    Neat to see that someone tried it at least. It doesn't seem like it's going to happen if they're more expensive than going out and buying a nice Tomcat Alley or NFL game to get a cheapo original case.
  • Originally posted by: DefaultGen

     
    Originally posted by: Limbofunk

     
    Originally posted by: MrNESGuy



    I wish we could Kickstart someone to make new cases for these games. In terms of pure fragility, these games are getting super hard to find in good condition between broken hinges, and scratching.



    Someone semi-tried a ways ago and everyone balked at the price.

    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/449713938/70143109?toke...

     



    Neat to see that someone tried it at least. It doesn't seem like it's going to happen if they're more expensive than going out and buying a nice Tomcat Alley or NFL game to get a cheapo original case.



    Yeah $10/case doesn't work for me.



    Shadowfox had talked about making replacement cases for Saturn/Sega CD, but I'm not completely sure that he really intended to make actual jewel case replacements.  I believe he goal was to make DVD style cases that would be big enough to hold a manual.  Last I heard, this was pretty far down his priorities list and he has many cases that he is currently working on.  

     
  • Originally posted by: rlh



    I have over 50 Saturn games and most of them are in pretty good condition.  However, one problem that even the best have is that the manuals are all warped.  I think this is because the proprietary CD cases, when standing up-right, have some much spacious room inside, that over the 20+ years that these games have sat on shelves, they've warped do to gravitational strain on the books.



    I currently have all of my games on bookshelves, standing upright as you'd expect, but I'd prefer to prevent my manuals from further warping, if there is a good way to fix this.



    I'm guessing that I could choose to stack my games on top of one another, lying them horizontally rather than standing them vertically, but if I put it manual-side down, then there is the chance that with time the discs could fall down and scratch, I guess.



    I'm curious, is anyone else annoyed by this design and possibly have a good solution or is, unfortunately, the best way to display this is to stand them vertically as they were initially intended?





    The best place to store them is in the TRASH! SEGA SUCKS THIS IS NINTENDOAGE FOOL!!!



    Just kidding man, I love the Saturn. I sold off all my Saturn games awhile ago when my Saturn died and I didn't want to spend money on a new one. I had a similiar problem to yours only mine was the discs not staying in place. So I cut a piece of wood into a triangle so I could store them diagonally. It works and it looks cool as hell.

    Here is my artist rendering

    Before IIIIIII

    After ///////
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