Had a Chance to Get HDMI on My NES

Recently I had the oportunity to have my NES modded for the Hidef Kit, that essentially adds HDMI to our classic system

 



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As far as the installation it went flawless and Ichinisan kept me informed all throught the process.

 



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Upon first startup I wondered if I would like it as CZroe told me what if it might suck? Well turns out that HD tvs tend to add things to the image that is not desirable. As to my eyes it was fine but Ichinisan told me there was somthing even better.

 



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We fiddled with the settings on my Vizio Smart TV, to what we found was that the TV streched the image so slightly that caused slight shades or ghosting on some pixels (but mind you this is when you are going nose to nose to the tv screen) 

Went ahead and reduced the screen size to its smallest allowed size (at first I was scared as I was going to play on a thumbnail) but the size was oka.

 



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This allowed for pixel perfect resolution where, one pixel of the TV screen represents one pixel in the game.

 



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Since the data is taken straight from the PPU and CPU there is nothing added on you are getting the purest signal.





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Ichinisan and his brother CZroe are excellent modders and great members of this comminity, when you are ready to take your NES experience to the next level with a hidef nes kit contact them you will not be dissapointed.

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Comments

  • That HDMI dremel port is cleeeean. Enjoy!
  • Nice, they are good people. Enjoy the HD NES  
  • The HiDefNES kit is awesome, enjoy it! I've got one in my NES, in addition to an Everdrive, and I am EXCEEDINGLY happy that I'm able to play my old Nintendo games on my modern TV as i have ZERO room or back strength to lug a CRT TV into my game room.
  • Congrats on your kit. Glad you had a good experience. I can't recommend the Hi-Def NES kit enough. How long ago did you buy your kit? It's a red revision so it has to be from around last September/October.
  • Originally posted by: Mobiusstriptech



    Congrats on your kit. Glad you had a good experience. I can't recommend the Hi-Def NES kit enough. How long ago did you buy your kit? It's a red revision so it has to be from around last September/October.





    It's a red 4.2 rev board. Our newest yellow boards also show "4.2" silk screened lettering.



    I still have at least one more red board and 3 yellows. Red went really nice with the red labels on the bottom of A2600's late-version toaster. Also, the serial number implies "FireWire"  



    The FPGA has the foam pad for a top loader. We had started to install it in a top-loader for someone that changed his mind and asked for yellow.

     
  • How difficult is this to do if you have ZERO skills or experience with soldering? Or would it be better to just buy an already modded system?
  • I thought there was some minor change from the red to the yellow boards, but nothing that was detrimental. Obviously the big change was switching to the dual wipe sockets instead of the machine pins due to the fitment/connection issues. Never had a problem with the reds, just thought it was interesting to see a red being installed now. It's been a long time since I did anything but a yellow.



    On a cool note though, the reds are considerably less common, so it's "exclusive". There are ~1000 yellows in the wild, but I'm pretty sure there were only something like ~250 reds that were made.
  • I have a ton of respect for the brothers, not surprised to hear about the quality of work they do.



    What would be an "all in" price to get one of these installed? Might have to get one done myself.



    edit:  interested in a top loader personally.
  • Originally posted by: JCE3000GT



    How difficult is this to do if you have ZERO skills or experience with soldering? Or would it be better to just buy an already modded system?

    If you have a nes system contact either of the brothers and ask them if they can make it possible just like they did woth mines



     
  • If you don't know how to solder or have zero skills towards that end. PLEASE don't try and do this install. I am all for people learning how to solder, but don't use functional video game consoles to learn on.
  • Thanks Mobius!
  • Originally posted by: JCE3000GT



    How difficult is this to do if you have ZERO skills or experience with soldering? Or would it be better to just buy an already modded system?



    Honestly the hardest parts of the install of this mod is cutting the HDMI hole and desoldering the CPU and PPU from the board. If you have a good vacuum desolder, removing the chips is super easy. I've installed this mod on both a Top Loader and a Front Loader and had no problems when I was using the right tools. The first time I attempted an install, I ruined a top loader (might be fixable) while attempting to remove the CPU and PPU with a crappy vaccum desolder. I wouldn't recommend it to somone with Zero experience, but it i scertaintly doable for somone that has soldered a few times and has the right tools.

     
  • Originally posted by: mil3sdavis

     
    Originally posted by: JCE3000GT



    How difficult is this to do if you have ZERO skills or experience with soldering? Or would it be better to just buy an already modded system?



    Honestly the hardest parts of the install of this mod is cutting the HDMI hole and desoldering the CPU and PPU from the board. If you have a good vacuum desolder, removing the chips is super easy. I've installed this mod on both a Top Loader and a Front Loader and had no problems when I was using the right tools. The first time I attempted an install, I ruined a top loader (might be fixable) while attempting to remove the CPU and PPU with a crappy vaccum desolder. I wouldn't recommend it to somone with Zero experience, but it i scertaintly doable for somone that has soldered a few times and has the right tools.

     



    Exactly. Most people don't have the proper desoldering tools and the cost for a good setup is not justifiable to only do this once. I personally use a FR300 and it works great for this, but I also do mod work on a large number of consoles every week, so it's justifiable. The actual soldering is not difficult at all.

     
  • Originally posted by: mil3sdavis

     
    Originally posted by: JCE3000GT



    How difficult is this to do if you have ZERO skills or experience with soldering? Or would it be better to just buy an already modded system?



    Honestly the hardest parts of the install of this mod is cutting the HDMI hole and desoldering the CPU and PPU from the board. If you have a good vacuum desolder, removing the chips is super easy. I've installed this mod on both a Top Loader and a Front Loader and had no problems when I was using the right tools. The first time I attempted an install, I ruined a top loader (might be fixable) while attempting to remove the CPU and PPU with a crappy vaccum desolder. I wouldn't recommend it to somone with Zero experience, but it i scertaintly doable for somone that has soldered a few times and has the right tools.

     

    I actually do not have any equipment as of yet.  I had originally planned on learning how to recap my XBOX, 3DO, and etc so I wasn't sure if this was something else I could do that wouldn't be too difficult.  

     
    Originally posted by: Mobiusstriptech 



    If you don't know how to solder or have zero skills towards that end. PLEASE don't try and do this install. I am all for people learning how to solder, but don't use functional video game consoles to learn on.

    Oh I would do practing on dead electronics first trust me.   

     
    Originally posted by: A2600

     
    Originally posted by: JCE3000GT



    How difficult is this to do if you have ZERO skills or experience with soldering? Or would it be better to just buy an already modded system?

    If you have a nes system contact either of the brothers and ask them if they can make it possible just like they did woth mines



     

    I'll do that when I'm ready thank you.   

  • Could this be adapted to a top loader, particularly one that had already been modded?
  • Originally posted by: VmprHntrD



    Could this be adapted to a top loader, particularly one that had already been modded?





    The kit can be installed in either a front or top loader. I would say it depends on what mods have already been done to it. I would guess that it would probably still work with an A/V modded top loader as long as PIN 21 on the PPU wasn't completely destroyed when the mod was done.



    I honestly prefer my hidef modded top loader over my front loader because I can play FDS games in it in HD with a 60 to 72 pin adapter. 
  • Originally posted by: mil3sdavis

     
    Originally posted by: JCE3000GT



    How difficult is this to do if you have ZERO skills or experience with soldering? Or would it be better to just buy an already modded system?



    Honestly the hardest parts of the install of this mod is cutting the HDMI hole and desoldering the CPU and PPU from the board. If you have a good vacuum desolder, removing the chips is super easy. I've installed this mod on both a Top Loader and a Front Loader and had no problems when I was using the right tools. The first time I attempted an install, I ruined a top loader (might be fixable) while attempting to remove the CPU and PPU with a crappy vaccum desolder. I wouldn't recommend it to somone with Zero experience, but it i scertaintly doable for somone that has soldered a few times and has the right tools.

     



    THIS!  With the proper tools it can be done, but it's still a bit of a pain.  Even with a Hakko FR-300 it took some skill to get all of the old solder off without overheating pads, etc.  (I ended up messing up on my first install when an entire set of traces came off too as solder had seeped through the hole to the top side which I didn't expect to happen.  There were other issues with the system anyway, but it was a pain).



    In all honesty, installing the UltraHDMI mod was a bit easier for me since it just involved tinning, lots of flux, and quick application of heat.  The installation of the HiDefNES mod is a bit more involved with more things to remove and install, etc.

     
  • Yaeh the UltraHDMI and Hi-Def NES installs are totally different types of installs. The one step I have seen many people miss when desoldering on the NES is not flowing new solder on all the pins before removal. Before I attempt to desolder anything on these old consoles, I always flow new solder. It really helps with pulling out the old stuff. The other thing is the ground pins. People tend to spend too much time on the ground pins when it's better to hit them and move on. Then come back, reflow, and hit it again. Otherwise you will burn the pads off.
  • Originally posted by: Mobiusstriptech



    Yaeh the UltraHDMI and Hi-Def NES installs are totally different types of installs. The one step I have seen many people miss when desoldering on the NES is not flowing new solder on all the pins before removal. Before I attempt to desolder anything on these old consoles, I always flow new solder. It really helps with pulling out the old stuff. The other thing is the ground pins. People tend to spend too much time on the ground pins when it's better to hit them and move on. Then come back, reflow, and hit it again. Otherwise you will burn the pads off.

    ^absolutely this!



     
  • My only regret is that instead of a top loader, I wish I would have gotten a toaster with Blinking Light Wins (and a returned pin connector - only thing that would go in it is my Everdrive)



    You'll love it
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    The subtile touch of Red to contrast the red 1800 nintendo sticker
  • Originally posted by: Diamante Loco



    My only regret is that instead of a top loader, I wish I would have gotten a toaster with Blinking Light Wins (and a returned pin connector - only thing that would go in it is my Everdrive)



    You'll love it



    That's why you do both. I have a top loader and front loader as well as a RGB modded front loader. One on each main tv.

     
  • Originally posted by: Mobiusstriptech

     
    Originally posted by: Diamante Loco



    My only regret is that instead of a top loader, I wish I would have gotten a toaster with Blinking Light Wins (and a returned pin connector - only thing that would go in it is my Everdrive)



    You'll love it



    That's why you do both. I have a top loader and front loader as well as a RGB modded front loader. One on each main tv.

     



    ....ditto ( but I don't have an RGB front loader) and an AV modded Famicom, AV modded Atari 2600, and an HDMI GameCube... can never have too many modded systems.... need to get my hands on an Ultra HDMI kit.... and someone needs to figure out an SNES HDMI mod....

     
  • I have UltraHDMI kits in stock right now.
  • Hmm I might have to open it up and see, or just write it off and replace. I recently got an original style NES in incredible shape locally for nearly nothing, cleaned it up inside and out, popped pin4, boiled some pins and straightened, gave the whole thing a once over everywhere and I've been using it and put the modded top loader up as I lost interest. It has the rca jacks in the back, a pop out knob to turn to separate sound channels for stereo, and a little light under the power switch and that's it.
  • My HiDef NES has a blue board? Not a yellow or red one...
  • Could be a early revision open your menu (left and select) and see the serial number
  • Yea, I have the blue board as well, which was the first revision. I need to update my board to get the new color palettes added. But overall, im very satisfied with the Hi Def NES.
  • Originally posted by: Mobiusstriptech

    I have UltraHDMI kits in stock right now.





    Do u do UltraHDMI installs. I sent my N64 and UltraHDMI kit to Badassconsoles to get modded but I totally regret my decision. Hes had my console for 2 months now and he hasnt worked on my system at all. Hasnt even given any updates to at least know when I can expect my console back. I would paid for u to do it instead if I only knew  .
  • Originally posted by: kwaza

    Originally posted by: Mobiusstriptech

    I have UltraHDMI kits in stock right now.





    Do u do UltraHDMI installs. I sent my N64 and UltraHDMI kit to Badassconsoles to get modded but I totally regret my decision. Hes had my console for 2 months now and he hasnt worked on my system at all. Hasnt even given any updates to at least know when I can expect my console back. I would paid for u to do it instead if I only knew  .





    Yep. I do installs whether you supply the kit or I do. I have done more than 100 now and my turnaround is pretty much always 1-2days. I don't understand why badass consoles takes months.
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