How big of a part does Nintendoage play in game prices?
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This may be taboo to ask maybe even forbidden, but I can say that for me I lurked around for atleast 3 years before becoming a member recently. Most information I would research about games and how to tell if they are real or how to fix something always lead instantly to something someone wrote on here, or at some point I would run into a link that lead here from another site. This place is full of good information but does it also play a role in how high game prices are since this is like the grand central station of game collecting? Anyone have feelings on this? We all like to gripe a little about how game prices are so high, yet some of us would be pretty disappointed if they tanked tomorrow. This is just a curiosity question, so if I am out of place asking this please let me know.
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NA has a few dozen or hundred people logged in at any given time. Look for "rarest games" or "hidden gems" on Youtube and the popular videos have 100,000s of views. NA may affect the market, but nothing like Youtube.
Yes but some of those people on youtube have been members here and some probably still are. I would not be surprised if some were members here first, but I have no idea. Videos on youtube are cool and very entertaining but NA is like school when it comes to this subject. This is where you learn the value, how rare things are, whats something people are super interested in. I guess I am saying this place is more hands on and interactive.
(...) prices are so high, yet some of us would be pretty disappointed if they tanked tomorrow. (...)
Precise words you choose, some of us would rejoice.
NA is part of a big ecosystem. YouTube is a bigger part of said ecosystem.
It certainly have _some_ influence, as part of it all, but not directly or majorly, no.
Originally posted by: DefaultGen
NA has a few dozen or hundred people logged in at any given time. Look for "rarest games" or "hidden gems" on Youtube and the popular videos have 100,000s of views. NA may affect the market, but nothing like Youtube.
Those 100,000 views count both YT members and guest accounts. You're only considering members on Nintendo Age and not people without an account. NintendoAge is a publically viewable forum you know..
(...) prices are so high, yet some of us would be pretty disappointed if they tanked tomorrow. (...)
Precise words you choose, some of us would rejoice.
NA is part of a big ecosystem. YouTube is a bigger part of said ecosystem.
It certainly have _some_ influence, as part of it all, but not directly or majorly, no.
The words were chosen for lack of better words. I dont have a big financial stake in this hobby like aome may. I mean dont get me wrong its nice to know that if I had an emergency I could come up with money easily, but as far as money put in its pretty perpetual at this point.
NA has a few dozen or hundred people logged in at any given time. Look for "rarest games" or "hidden gems" on Youtube and the popular videos have 100,000s of views. NA may affect the market, but nothing like Youtube.
I don't think that people should discount the NA effect. Isolated Warrior (thanks to the now banned Polar Bear) spiked, just based on an NA thread. While there are more eyeballs on youtube, how many of those convert to sales? Plenty of people watch the AVGN passively, without buying everything he mentions. I'd say those visiting NA are more active collectors, so they are more likely to convert a view into a purchase. It's been shown many times that a thread is created, and a price spikes.
NA has a few dozen or hundred people logged in at any given time. Look for "rarest games" or "hidden gems" on Youtube and the popular videos have 100,000s of views. NA may affect the market, but nothing like Youtube.
I don't think that people should discount the NA effect. Isolated Warrior (thanks to the now banned Polar Bear) spiked, just based on an NA thread. While there are more eyeballs on youtube, how many of those convert to sales? Plenty of people watch the AVGN passively, without buying everything he mentions. I'd say those visiting NA are more active collectors, so they are more likely to convert a view into a purchase. It's been shown many times that a thread is created, and a price spikes.
Not just that game either, Space Mega force, STG gunner,hagane and a lot more. Never forget the next Musha....
My favorite post on this site.
"Hahaha - I'll be honest - I was looking at nebula's thread activity to see if he recently purchased these games, and I saw this gem, about a month ago:
"I was actually the one to inadvertently start the Hagane craze. About 2 months ago, I posted a thread in the Buyer's forum(link below)
http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=56&a...
seeking to purchase this game. At that time, clean minty pristine copies could still be purchased for about $120. Well...let me tell you...that was the biggest mistake ever. All I ended up doing was riling up the collectors on this site and getting them into a frenzy over Hagane. The game was relatively unknown, and I should have used that to my advantage. Had I purchased a copy at that time from ebay, I would now own Hagane. Instead, I tried to purchase it through this community, which has always been good to me. But the fact of the matter is, because there are a lot of collectors on this site, rarer items should not be advertised/mentioned here.
My advice to you: If you are seeking a relatively rare item, DO NOT advertise your efforts, intentions, or plans on this site. There are way too many collectors here, and all you'll end up doing is piquing their interest...and therefore creating even more competition for yourself. This will drive up prices and also make it even more difficult for you to acquire the item you seek. With the influx of new collectors, this is only exacerbated.
hope that helps, and again...just want to mention how great this community is. But in some regards...a little bit of caution and prudence is needed when discussing this on this site."
So.....you clearly recognized why it's bad to post things like this, yet you did it again? hehe.
EDIT: No hard feelings here - I mainly just found it very entertaining - I laughed when I read this"
Applying data and statistics would be the best way to
determine this. Removing subjectivity.
My answer considering all things is......Somewhat.
That is all.
How big of a part? As in size and seeking something quantifiable?
Applying data and statistics would be the best way to
determine this. Removing subjectivity.
My answer considering all things is......Somewhat.
That is all.
At best you'll get annecdotes. There is just too much at play to get specifics of video game prices.
https://www.pricecharting.com/game/nes/isolated-warrior
http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=5&threadid=142128
The timing of the spike and this thread can't simply be conicidental. There is some NA effect. How much it compares to the James & Mike effect is questionable.
How big of a part? As in size and seeking something quantifiable?
Applying data and statistics would be the best way to
determine this. Removing subjectivity.
My answer considering all things is......Somewhat.
That is all.
Ha. I was looking more for mild, medium or hot. Not to worried about running any data sets.
How big of a part? As in size and seeking something quantifiable?
Applying data and statistics would be the best way to
determine this. Removing subjectivity.
My answer considering all things is......Somewhat.
That is all.
At best you'll get annecdotes. There is just too much at play to get specifics of video game prices.
https://www.pricecharting.com/gam...
http://nintendoage.com/forum/mess...
The timing of the spike and this thread can't simply be conicidental. There is some NA effect. How much it compares to the James & Mike effect is questionable.
I agree but I could argue that James and Mike's effect is typically temporary where as the info here is more permanent. I mean if you go to price charting and look at how rare something is it links to a nintendoage database. I am just saying nintendoage plays a bigger part then some may realize, which I must mention is not a bad thing at all.
How big of a part? As in size and seeking something quantifiable?
Applying data and statistics would be the best way to
determine this. Removing subjectivity.
My answer considering all things is......Somewhat.
That is all.
At best you'll get annecdotes. There is just too much at play to get specifics of video game prices.
https://www.pricecharting.com/gam...
http://nintendoage.com/forum/mess...
The timing of the spike and this thread can't simply be conicidental. There is some NA effect. How much it compares to the James & Mike effect is questionable.
Part of it though isnt due to flipping or anything though or trying to make the price go up. I bet 75 percent of it is just people getting a copy while its reasonable because they saw a thread and didnt want to miss out. Thus the copies disapear off ebay. Some games like that werent really abundant on ebay anyway. All it takes is 4-5 people to see a thread and go ahead and get the game because they didnt have it.
Very small. NA, even though its the biggest Nintendo collecting forum on the internet, is still only a small portion of all the collectors out there.
It may be a small portion of tbe collectors as far as registered members, but with that said as I mentioned before I lurked and got information for many years before registering. I am sure, though not certain, that a significant amount of the collecting populus lurks this site for information since it is a great resource. Also I am sure a lot of resellers lurk it to see what is hot. I know NA is not the only piece of the puzzle but I suspect it is a fairly significant piece. Price charting is a significant piece and like I say they link to here when it comes to getting more information about nintendo related games as far as rarity and such. Just out of curiosity are price charting and NA partnered in any way?
Very small. NA, even though its the biggest Nintendo collecting forum on the internet, is still only a small portion of all the collectors out there.
It may be a small portion of tbe collectors as far as registered members, but with that said as I mentioned before I lurked and got information for many years before registering. I am sure, though not certain, that a significant amount of the collecting populus lurks this site for information since it is a great resource. Also I am sure a lot of resellers lurk it to see what is hot. I know NA is not the only piece of the puzzle but I suspect it is a fairly significant piece. Price charting is a significant piece and like I say they link to here when it comes to getting more information about nintendo related games as far as rarity and such. Just out of curiosity are price charting and NA partnered in any way?
No, but JJ who owns and operates it is a member here. Gamevaluenow creator/owner is also a member here and he had NA members doing the beta testing when it was still in the works.
I think NA has some influence on pricing. It's not huge, but I think its tendency is actually to keep prices in check because it educates buyers. Like a lot of people, your Google searches led to NA and you learned about price-charting and got some education before joining. You probably also learned about alternative purchasing options and other things that ensure you arent overpaying for your games. NA promotes smart buying over all. If there weren't places like this where people can become educated, the market could really go crazy.
Also I am sure a lot of resellers lurk it to see what is hot.
Resellers aren't that quick and aren't looking at individual games. It would be a waste of time as the hype wouldn't sustain itself for them to buy enough games, relist them, and wait for buyers. They look at the bigger picture and more sustained trends, which we don't really provide.
Very small. NA, even though its the biggest Nintendo collecting forum on the internet, is still only a small portion of all the collectors out there.
It may be a small portion of tbe collectors as far as registered members, but with that said as I mentioned before I lurked and got information for many years before registering. I am sure, though not certain, that a significant amount of the collecting populus lurks this site for information since it is a great resource. Also I am sure a lot of resellers lurk it to see what is hot. I know NA is not the only piece of the puzzle but I suspect it is a fairly significant piece. Price charting is a significant piece and like I say they link to here when it comes to getting more information about nintendo related games as far as rarity and such. Just out of curiosity are price charting and NA partnered in any way?
No, but JJ who owns and operates it is a member here. Gamevaluenow creator/owner is also a member here and he had NA members doing the beta testing when it was still in the works.
I think NA has some influence on pricing. It's not huge, but I think its tendency is actually to keep prices in check because it educates buyers. Like a lot of people, your Google searches led to NA and you learned about price-charting and got some education before joining. You probably also learned about alternative purchasing options and other things that ensure you arent overpaying for your games. NA promotes smart buying over all. If there weren't places like this where people can become educated, the market could really go crazy.
I agree with the last line completely.
I agree with whatever makes my stuff more valuable.
I have said this before and I will say it again.
I agree with whatever makes my stuff more valuable.
Being a collector for almost 20 years, I can't help but notice (especially going for mainly NES) that how since their release up until around 2006, used games were relatively cheap. In 2006, gamestop had just finished devouring all of its competition, and shortly thereafter stopped carrying all "retro" games that were older than a generation or so. Overnight, a nationwide supply was no more, and only with the help of play and trade, was a smaller nationwide chain able to dictate prices across the country. This only lasted until around 2010-12 when that chain started closing up quick, and suddenly there were no more chain prices across the board. At this point, mom and pop shops were having to make their own prices bases on ebay sales that were driven by far less available inventory, collector wants and internet talk (forums and youtube) and prices soon started to climb.
So sure, collectors/speculators/etc. have all had an effect on rising prices, but I don't think anything has been more influential than taking static pricing across the country along with a nationwide network of supply and ripping them out from under the feet of the gaming market. In the early 2010s, Ducktales 2 and Rescue Rangers 2 were still the same $30 games they had been for nearly 15 years prior. They had been mentioned plenty online and here and were known rarities for years. It just took nationwide chain stores to stop selling them to propel them to where they are today. Supply and demand.
A video from Youtube is usually viewed by a broader range of people, which means people that there will be a much smaller percentage of collectors susceptible of buying the "hidden gem" discussed in the video.
On the other hand, people that see an NA thread are much more likely to go buy the game since this place is more specialised for collectors and there is a bigger percentage of such people browsing this site.
tl;dr, an NA thread with 5000 views would have the same amount of people convinced with buying X game as a Youtube video with 50000 views. (Hope this all made sense, I need to sleep now )
If you really want to get down to the nitty gritty, the reason is more likely centered around mental health and the underlying chemistry. Most people like the response of finding something they've deemed both valuable and hard to find. It is an insanely large topic, but don't blame NA, blame the dopamine in all of our brains.