Nes display problem

I searched and could not find an answer to my question. There is an issue with the display of my Duck Tales (woo-oo). There are dots and lines all over the screen. The games pins are clean. The deck is clean with blinking light win installed. 10nes disabled. No other games have this issue. Anyone have any thoughts??



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  • It just looks dirty or mildly damaged. Open up the cartridge and use contact cleaner, and the rough side of a dish Sponge parallel to the contacts. Is there visible black saliva residue/mess, or damage? Even a good connector is sensitive.
  • Originally posted by: Zero Insertion Force



    It just looks dirty or mildly damaged. Open up the cartridge and use contact cleaner, and the rough side of a dish Sponge parallel to the contacts. Is there visible black saliva residue/mess, or damage? Even a good connector is sensitive.

    Pins were cleaned. First brasso. Then goof off. Then an isopropyl alcohol clean up. 



     
  • Open the case and see if there is any corrosion on the pcb traces from the fingers of the cart to the components.
  • Have you inspected the PCB? If the pins are fully cleaned and not damaged, it could be a damaged trace or a bad solder joint.
  • I don't see see any issues with traces or solder joints



  • How about cleaning the 72 pin connector? Not all games are created equal, you may have a dirty pin in your NES that Ducktales uses but none of your other carts care about. When I clean my systems I have to test with multiple games to be certain there are no dead spots on the connector.
  • That looks like dirty pins or cartridge-not-seated-right to me. I used to have this problem all the time when I had an urge to re-play Zelda in my teenage years after everything had been sitting around for a while  
  • Originally posted by: Zero Insertion Force



    How about cleaning the 72 pin connector? Not all games are created equal, you may have a dirty pin in your NES that Ducktales uses but none of your other carts care about. When I clean my systems I have to test with multiple games to be certain there are no dead spots on the connector.

    He's using a Blinking Light Win connector. I think they're a little too new to be that dirty, unless he plays in a dusty attic.  



     
  • Originally posted by: Tulpa

     
    Originally posted by: Zero Insertion Force



    How about cleaning the 72 pin connector? Not all games are created equal, you may have a dirty pin in your NES that Ducktales uses but none of your other carts care about. When I clean my systems I have to test with multiple games to be certain there are no dead spots on the connector.

    He's using a Blinking Light Win connector. I think they're a little too new to be that dirty, unless he plays in a dusty attic.  



     





    Good point, but from my experience even if you use one dirty game on a clean connector, that can mess with things. I don't imagine those connectors are any more or less magic (but I've never had one.)
  • They can still get dirty from dirty games being inserted. I use BLW and have seen that before. I agree that it still looks like a connection or dirt issue.
  • Originally posted by: Mobiusstriptech



    They can still get dirty from dirty games being inserted. I use BLW and have seen that before. I agree that it still looks like a connection or dirt issue.





    I cleaned the main board in the nes. Reinstalled the blw. I try to clean each game before I play it. And the blw is relatively new. 
  • Since you used Brasso, it's also possible that you are having a connection issue due to too much material being removed. Brasso does remove some of the material on the contacts.
  • Originally posted by: Mobiusstriptech



    Since you used Brasso, it's also possible that you are having a connection issue due to too much material being removed. Brasso does remove some of the material on the contacts.



    I will say brasso is not a normal thing I use. I've only used it a few times. It was doing this prior to brasso. 

     
  • Do you have another 72 pin connector or NES to test?
  • Originally posted by: Zero Insertion Force



    Good point, but from my experience even if you use one dirty game on a clean connector, that can mess with things. I don't imagine those connectors are any more or less magic (but I've never had one.)

    Yeah, but I took it on faith that when he said the game was clean that he actually did clean it.  



     
  • Originally posted by: Tulpa

     
    Originally posted by: Zero Insertion Force



    Good point, but from my experience even if you use one dirty game on a clean connector, that can mess with things. I don't imagine those connectors are any more or less magic (but I've never had one.)

    Yeah, but I took it on faith that when he said the game was clean that he actually did clean it.  



     



    I clean carts with 90% isopropyl prior to gaming. 

     
  • Originally posted by: DrStevenJones



    I don't see see any issues with traces or solder joints








    Those short pins (with the long feelers) in the second image can sometimes cause connectivity issues. Unfortunately, some cartridges have shorter pins than others. It's related to how they were arranged in the factory. Based on my observations, individual PCBs were part of a bigger sheet of PCBs. Some sides would be snapped apart, but the connector side had to be cut through more cleanly. Sometimes top and bottom of the boards weren't aligned correctly, resulting in shorter or longer contacts on one side. I have a copy of Super Mario Bros. / Duck Hunt with ridiculously short contacts. Most NES systems just won't boot it.

     
  • Originally posted by: Tulpa

     
    Originally posted by: Zero Insertion Force



    Good point, but from my experience even if you use one dirty game on a clean connector, that can mess with things. I don't imagine those connectors are any more or less magic (but I've never had one.)

    Yeah, but I took it on faith that when he said the game was clean that he actually did clean it.  



     



    He might have cleaned that one... But was the cartridge before it clean? Who knows what kind of filthy, strange systems those carts make their way into before you  

     
  • Originally posted by: Zero Insertion Force



    Do you have another 72 pin connector or NES to test?





    Well works alright in my retron3....



    so I guess there's no issue with the game cart
  • Originally posted by: Zero Insertion Force

     
    Originally posted by: Tulpa

     
    Originally posted by: Zero Insertion Force



    Good point, but from my experience even if you use one dirty game on a clean connector, that can mess with things. I don't imagine those connectors are any more or less magic (but I've never had one.)

    Yeah, but I took it on faith that when he said the game was clean that he actually did clean it.  



     



    He might have cleaned that one... But was the cartridge before it clean? Who knows what kind of filthy, strange systems those carts make their way into before you  

     



    If you play Nintendo unprotected, you're playing Nintendo with every previous Nintendo that cart has played with before.



    Stay safe kids: Clean your contacts and (Power)glove up every time!  
  • ^^This needs to be on a T-shirt or something. Absolutely glorious.
  • Hope those have a warranty. If it's not something that voids the warranty, I'd spray the connector with CRC contact cleaner. I swear they don't pay me.
  • Well if it's working on the retron, then the issue is could be the cap or one of the chips on the cart. Since the retron doesn't actually play from the cart. Or it could still be a connection issue because the retron doesn't use a normal cart connector, they use one that is similar, but is tighter.
  • I thought the retron 3 is a simple clone with no emulation. NES on a chip.
  • It is. The Retron 5 is the emulation machine.
  • Originally posted by: Ichinisan

     
    Originally posted by: DrStevenJones



    I don't see see any issues with traces or solder joints








    Those short pins (with the long feelers) in the second image can sometimes cause connectivity issues. Unfortunately, some cartridges have shorter pins than others. It's related to how they were arranged in the factory. Based on my observations, individual PCBs were part of a bigger sheet of PCBs. Some sides would be snapped apart, but the connector side had to be cut through more cleanly. Sometimes top and bottom of the boards weren't aligned correctly, resulting in shorter or longer contacts on one side. I have a copy of Super Mario Bros. / Duck Hunt with ridiculously short contacts. Most NES systems just won't boot it.

     



    this is something worth checking out. the blw might not make contact with a couple of those pins which could cause the issue you're seeing. test with a regular connector or a toploader. 

     
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