Fayre whethur Nintendo fans?
Seems like with the switch success, a lot of "Nintendo" fans are coming out of the woodwork. There seems to be a real buzz around the Switch that is distinct from the buzz around the Wii. It seems like this buzz has dragged out new Nintendo fans. How do you guise feel about band wagon gamers or fare weather fans? The type of people who are only there during good times, shun the handheld market and only remember the good old days?
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That said, I'm glad the Switch is doing well but I don't really care about it at this point; I'm too back-logged with games for other systems to play (NES to PS3 with everything in-between,) but I'll probably pick up a Switch in five years or so.
I have a WiiU and I thought it was fantastic. But everyone is entitled to buy what they please. If a product doesn't do it for you, why would you buy it? Because it has the Nintendo name on it?
If the Switch goes on to be a massive success and creates a whole new generation of Nintendo fans, that's a good thing. I don't think there will be too many people calling them bandwagoners or fair weather fans.
The Wii U wasn't that great
better than the 3DS
The Wii U wasn't that great
better than the 3DS
Dumbest comment i've read this year, congrats. And we're 9 months in, so that's pretty impressive.
How dare they not blindly buy anything with the Nintendo brand on it!
I have a WiiU and I thought it was fantastic. But everyone is entitled to buy what they please. If a product doesn't do it for you, why would you buy it? Because it has the Nintendo name on it?
I think it's the opposite. How do you know it doesn't do it for you if you don't play it? I had a Wii U until shortly after the release of Mario Maker before I gave it and all the games to my nephew's. I had 13 games, 9 we're first party and I played them all. I came to my own conclusion that the console sucked and didn't do it for me. I didn't watch a vlog or read a thread that told me it sucked. I found out myself. I didn't blindly buy games, I picked what were to be the best releases of the year for the console and played those.
However all you have to do to know most gamers didn't find out first hand whether or not the Wii U was a good console is look at the sales numbers. My post isn't to say buy Nintendo and like it. But a fan goes to the games and watches the players and comes to their own conclusions about a team. Other ppl just show up at the championship game.
The switch is the real fucking deal. I didn't need to play the Wii U to know I didn't want it, and I didn't need to play the switch to know I did.
How dare they not blindly buy anything with the Nintendo brand on it!
I have a WiiU and I thought it was fantastic. But everyone is entitled to buy what they please. If a product doesn't do it for you, why would you buy it? Because it has the Nintendo name on it?
I think it's the opposite. How do you know it doesn't do it for you if you don't play it? I had a Wii U until shortly after the release of Mario Maker before I gave it and all the games to my nephew's. I had 13 games, 9 we're first party and I played them all. I came to my own conclusion that the console sucked and didn't do it for me. I didn't watch a vlog or read a thread that told me it sucked. I found out myself. I didn't blindly buy games, I picked what were to be the best releases of the year for the console and played those.
However all you have to do to know most gamers didn't find out first hand whether or not the Wii U was a good console is look at the sales numbers. My post isn't to say buy Nintendo and like it. But a fan goes to the games and watches the players and comes to their own conclusions about a team. Other ppl just show up at the championship game.
I get what you're saying. I felt similarly about the 3DS.. I know that's not the common opinion but I really wasn't a fan. Zelda LBW was incredible, but other then that I haven't found anything worth keeping the thing over. I just wish I bought it used for cheaper instead
As far as the Switch marketing, it does seem like Nintendo is definitely not trying to hype (or over-hype) the system too much. Probably a good thing, even if the Switch is great I think they're giving it time to slowly develop into something gamers want instead of touting it as THE NEXT BEST THING to a bunch of fickle consumers right off the bat, as has been their strategy before.
In truth I really fell off the Nintendo bandwagon in the latter half of the N64 generation when I broke down and got a PS. Skipped the GameCube, it never looked compelling to me and I wasn't playing games so much at that point as I was finding other ways to not study living in the dorms. As infuriating as the Wii was to a lot of people, it did have a lot of compelling software/ideas outside the crap pile, and it sort of brought me back to gaming in general.
The type of people who are only there during good times, shun the handheld markwt
This is me. yeah so what?
I came to my own conclusion that the console sucked and didn't do it for me. I didn't watch a vlog or read a thread that told me it sucked. I found out myself. I didn't blindly buy games, I picked what were to be the best releases of the year for the console and played those.
I didn't do either. I hate vlogs. But I read reviews and look at gameplay videos. Same way you found out what would be the "best releases"? I was really excited by the Wii U trailer. Then I waited for the games, and... not enough. I played a bit of Hyrule Warriors - lame. Some Mario 3D World - no thank you. Mario 3D anything, never cared for it. Mario Maker is awesome except now they're taking down the servers? Mario Kart, never cared for it. Yoshi Woolly World doesn't look fun for me. Color Splash looks good, there's 1. Oh, and Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze.
I researched a bunch of 3rd party games too and there were 2 or 3 that sound good.
However all you have to do to know most gamers didn't find out first hand whether or not the Wii U was a good console is look at the sales numbers.
What's wrong with being a fair-weather fan in this case? I bought a Wii U, and the games really just never came in my opinion. Was I supposed to buy games I didn't want to play instead of risking being a "fair-weather fan?" (Ok, I spent basically about 36 hours straight with it when I got Shantae and the Pirate's Curse, but I could have had that on other systems anyway.) If the Switch has attractive games for a change, what's wrong with it bringing people back from playing Halo or whatever?
That said, I'm glad the Switch is doing well but I don't really care about it at this point; I'm too back-logged with games for other systems to play (NES to PS3 with everything in-between,) but I'll probably pick up a Switch in five years or so.
^ Almost exactly this for me, and with my backlog that's over 1,200 games counting I don't exactly have an emergecy to get a Switch--hell I just got my PS4 Pro and fully backwards compatible PS3 so I have an even larger potential backlog. Maybe I'll get a Switch maybe I won't. That almost entirely 100% depends on the jRPGs released to the west and if Squeenix can get their heads out of their asses and translate the Seiken Densetsu collection for the west. Mario and Zelda just don't do it for me anymore post Super Nintendo so there's also that.
Plus being a fair weather fan isn't a bad thing because that shows these companies that not everyone will bow down and worship you thus buying any of the shit you're trying to peddle year after year (looking at you EA and Obisoft).
If someone likes something, fine. If someone doesn't like something, fine. I'm not in elementary school. I don't need approval from complete strangers to make me feel good about my choices.
I've heard nothing about the servers going down for Mario Maker. That will be a shame if/when it occurs, just got the game a couple months ago and have actually been playing quite a bit.
I read elsewhere: "Nintendo is discontinuing the Miiverse online service as of November 8th of this year. Some online services will still continue for a short while, such as Super Mario Maker's level sharing, but I'm sure that soon enough every other online service will end shortly after."
Nintendo says: "Users will still be able to share levels, but will no longer be able to comment on them." http://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/27329/~/miiverse-service-discontinuation-faq
Originally posted by: RegularGuyGamer
Seems like with the switch success, a lot of "Nintendo" fans are coming out of the woodwork. There seems to be a real buzz around the Switch that is distinct from the buzz around the Wii. It seems like this buzz has dragged out new Nintendo fans. How do you guise feel about band wagon gamers or fare weather fans? The type of people who are only there during good times, shun the handheld market and only remember the good old days?
Why are new fans or lapsed fans a bad thing?
More people buying the Switch means a bigger install base and more support. More companies have announced they will be making more games for the Switch as a result. Seems like a net positive.
Nintendo has been terrible for 20 years. The SNES was their peak and it's been nothing but terrible systems and gimmicks since then.
I'm also inclined to agree with this statement. The GameCube was a brief blip of awesomeness but still sort of gimmicky... And the irony is almost every game I had on the GameCube I also literally had on the other two competitors. Didn't make much sense I suppose, I mean I did have a ton of disposable income at the time.
Seems like with the switch success, a lot of "Nintendo" fans are coming out of the woodwork. There seems to be a real buzz around the Switch that is distinct from the buzz around the Wii. It seems like this buzz has dragged out new Nintendo fans. How do you guise feel about band wagon gamers or fare weather fans? The type of people who are only there during good times, shun the handheld market and only remember the good old days?
I've noticed this a lot. I've also noticed another group which are the snarking sadists who can't let go. They're the ones who have a WiiU and cling to it despite the colossal failure living in denial of it but not, as they lump all their back handed occasional praise and usual heavy snark on the Switch like it was the crap show the WiiU was and it gets really aggravating. I get your awesome choice of words with the fair weather (patriot) Nintendo fans comment. As long as it's sunny and warm people will come out of the woodworks for the love, the cause, the group mentality and enjoyment -- then when it gets cold, bitter, very WiiU like for Nintendo they're the first to run off, play denial games, and toss Nintendo under the bus like they had always blown.
It gets old, but it proves losers like the revolutionary war and losers over a modern entertainment machine are the same types of thinkers no matter the century. NO back bone, no real help much, just there for the good, and run like cowards if anything turns rotten. As much as anything Wii ran me off of Nintendo and made me bitter over their console business, I never felt ill against the rest especially handheld. When I realized the Switch was a dockable handheld I put up and didn't shut up for that one and don't regret it one bit.
The way I figure it, if the cowards and simps stick around and it helps the Switch base grow and helps encourage more statements like Bethesda gave on future continued support, and them doing real games and not their piddly one off kids title some years back I welcome it. Fine if the fair weather lovers are around if it grows third parties into the mature idea of supporting the hardware with consistent A team stuff and not ignoring it, bad ports, or B-C tier drivel we all win on that end.
The Wii U wasn't that great, people didn't buy it for a reason.
I bought 3 of em....I must be an idiot!!!!!!!!!!
The Wii U wasn't that great, people didn't buy it for a reason.
I bought 3 of em....I must be an idiot!!!!!!!!!!
I own one, it has a small library of good games, and some that are flat out amazing. Overall though, it wasn't a great system, the Switch has already created a bigger buzz and its only 6 months old.
I still consider the PS1 and PS2 to have many of the best games ever, and still consider myself a fan of those CONSOLES. I think the key for me is that I'm a fan of the games, not the businesses behind them. At the end of the day the company is a business and they really just want your money. The game itself is where the heart is, more often than not.
The Wii U wasn't that great
better than the 3DS
Dumbest comment i've read this year, congrats. And we're 9 months in, so that's pretty impressive.
He is surely kidding, I won't hear otherwise.
I'd not consider myself such. I've been a Playstation fan since the PS1, but going into the PS4 I was tired from the PS3's relatively lackluster library compared to previous gens, and ended up entirely switching over to Nintendo from there.
I still consider the PS1 and PS2 to have many of the best games ever, and still consider myself a fan of those CONSOLES. I think the key for me is that I'm a fan of the games, not the businesses behind them. At the end of the day the company is a business and they really just want your money. The game itself is where the heart is, more often than not.
I have the exact same views on PlayStation. I'm a huge fan of PS1, PS2 and PSP but the PS3 lost be somewhere around the 3rd year of it's lifespan. I just felt disconnected from the games it pushed out and had more fun playing retro and Halo. I want Sony to do well though and I play it at my sister's house. Just so happens that everything I would play on PlayStation I can play on Xbox and Xbox also has my favorite FPS franchise.