Why isn't #BoycottNFL trending?
I missed most of the football action yesterday as I was at a festival with my family. After hearing from friends in the area there was quite a shirt storm yesterday on twitter yet it doesn't show up as a trending tag.
I don't use twitter so I really am curious how this works. Is twitter not a neutral reporting agency of recorded events as they happen?
Did the NFL pay Twitter to have this done?
I don't use twitter so I really am curious how this works. Is twitter not a neutral reporting agency of recorded events as they happen?
Did the NFL pay Twitter to have this done?
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Secondly, I saw a mass of tweets relating to the NFL on Sunday, but very few used that specific hashtag. While the discussion may have been the dominating force yesterday, I didn't see many people wanting to outright boycott the NFL.
Funny how choosing to burn the flag is covered by 1st ammendment rights, but choosing to kneel during the anthem is unforgivable.
I'm not going to abandon a sport I love because of media hype.
Probably because the majority of people disagree with the president, and do not want to boycott the NFL over people exercising their rights.
Funny how choosing to burn the flag is covered by 1st ammendment rights, but choosing to kneel during the anthem is unforgivable.
The difference is people aren't burning the flag during football games. My job wouldn't let me start protesting during the middle of a meeting because that is my right. Your right is that you won't get arrested, employers aren't required to put up with it while you are on the clock.
Probably because the majority of people disagree with the president, and do not want to boycott the NFL over people exercising their rights.
Funny how choosing to burn the flag is covered by 1st ammendment rights, but choosing to kneel during the anthem is unforgivable.
The difference is people aren't burning the flag during football games. My job wouldn't let me start protesting during the middle of a meeting because that is my right. Your right is that you won't get arrested, employers aren't required to put up with it while you are on the clock.
I'm surprised the NFL doesn't have a rule "you have to stand during the anthem".
You have to take drug tests.
I don't understand why people are getting so upset about the kneeling thing.
Probably because the majority of people disagree with the president, and do not want to boycott the NFL over people exercising their rights.
Funny how choosing to burn the flag is covered by 1st ammendment rights, but choosing to kneel during the anthem is unforgivable.
The difference is people aren't burning the flag during football games. My job wouldn't let me start protesting during the middle of a meeting because that is my right. Your right is that you won't get arrested, employers aren't required to put up with it while you are on the clock.
I think there was certainly a crossover into the inappropriate to have the president of the united states taking a stance against the players that choose to protest.
Hypocritical... since having me complain about it even adds to the problem.
This shit storm is just stupid to begin with. Y'all can disagree with me, I hate all sides on this. People are out there in pain and are suffering possibly dying, and and everyone's all riled up over this?
Hypocritical... since having me complain about it even adds to the problem.
Just curious what you think is hypocritical about the players who are protesting, since the original intent was to raise awareness of issues surrounding police abuse of the black community.
I can get why somebody would choose a high visibility event to stage their silent protest.
I'm surprised the NFL doesn't have a rule "you have to stand during the anthem".
Probably because it ultimately doesn't matter. Fans aren't required to do it. And ultimately with a free society, it should be individual choice whether to stand at attention to a symbol or not, rather than mandated obedience.
I think there was certainly a crossover into the inappropriate to have the president of the united states taking a stance against the players that choose to protest.
This shit storm is just stupid to begin with. Y'all can disagree with me, I hate all sides on this. People are out there in pain and are suffering possibly dying, and and everyone's all riled up over this?
Hypocritical... since having me complain about it even adds to the problem.
Just curious what you think is hypocritical about the players who are protesting, since the original intent was to raise awareness of issues surrounding police abuse of the black community.
No it's hypocritical on my part by bringing up something I feel is trivial to begin with. I thought the original intent was that Trump thinks that kneeling is disrespectful, which is the exact opposite (Kneeling for marriage, kneeling before a king, etc.)
But besides all that, I feel that people tend to gravitate toward this artificial tragedy.
I dunno, being told that I may die here recently puts things in a different perspective for me.
Certainly, I am in no way taking a stand on how trump handled it. My point is people like to say it's the players right to peacefully protest during the anthem. Their rights only extend to them not being arrested, it does not exempt them from other consequense, be it from their employers or fans losing interest, or any other myriad of possibilities. What if a quarterback decided to take a knee on 1st down instead of during the anthem, would people still make the arguement that the team has to put up with that because it is that players right?
I have no problem with athletes using their position and the attention of being a celebrity to bring awareness to things that are important to them, but it should be on their own time. If a football player went to a baseball game and decided to kneel during the singing of the anthem, that would be completly different, they aren't at work.
It's up to the NFL, but so far the NFL is okay with what they're doing.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/23/politics/nfl-goodell-trump-response/index.html
If my job played the national anthem every morning, and there was no mention in my contract that I had to stand and salute to it, then I can do whatever I want during it and totally not get fired.
I guess, I shouldn't be suprised by the argument though, because most of the people that make it paste an image of NFL rules that aren't real. So obviously they aren't putting much effort into their argument.
Oh yeah and fuck kapernick too.
*Giants sign Kapernick to ten year deal*
I honestly don't get the whole "If I did this at my job, I would be fired" argument.
If my job played the national anthem every morning, and there was no mention in my contract that I had to stand and salute to it, then I can do whatever I want during it and totally not get fired.
I guess, I shouldn't be suprised by the argument though, because most of the people that make it paste an image of NFL rules that aren't real. So obviously they aren't putting much effort into their argument.
You are right, if the NFL doesn't care then the employee should be able to do what they want. The team should also be allowed to make it a policy if they want. I think that is what Trump was getting at in his typical ham-handed fashion. That the owners should care.
I'm surprised the NFL doesn't have a rule "you have to stand during the anthem".
Probably because it ultimately doesn't matter. Fans aren't required to do it. And ultimately with a free society, it should be individual choice whether to stand at attention to a symbol or not, rather than mandated obedience.
I agree.
It's not the players "job" to stand during the National Anthem, their job is to play football. Under a free society they have a right to take a knee if they choose to, and is against everything the first amendment stands for to try and make them stand.
Probably because the majority of people disagree with the president, and do not want to boycott the NFL over people exercising their rights.
Funny how choosing to burn the flag is covered by 1st ammendment rights, but choosing to kneel during the anthem is unforgivable.
To a certain extent it is irrelevant what the majority of people think on the issue (and it is not clear that this is the case from the few polls I have seen on this) - what is going to be important is what percent of NFL viewers/fans (which is only a subset (albeit fairly big) of the populace at large) are willing to boycott the NFL in some manner as a way of expressing their displeasure (which is also a really effective free speech right if enough people do it). I suspect (I admit this is just a guess) that the percentage of viewers/fans unhappy (even if they are not willing to boycott) with the relevant group of players is higher than in the populace at large.
In any event it doesn't take a majority of viewers/fans boycotting to have the owners crying about it - even a sizeable fraction doing so will make them worry about not increasing their already sizeable fortunes even more.
The NFL sucks enough as it is, I don't need it thrown in my face every waking second.
It's not the players "job" to stand during the National Anthem, their job is to play football. Under a free society they have a right to take a knee if they choose to, and is against everything the first amendment stands for to try and make them stand.
I just wonder why all of these millionaires aren't contributing to something like better education in their home states, or better funding for various social programs that benefit people (think habitat for humanity, big brothers/sisters, junior achievement, etc..). It is sad that you have to dig to find news about players donating to help victims of the latest hurricanes, but somebody kneels during an anthem that holds a special place in some peoples' hearts and the media laps that shit up like its cocaine.
This is year 2 of these ridiculous protests, without any noticeable action! Am I crazy? These are players with millions of dollars, but what are they actually DOING to make a change?
Yeah let's push for awareness...and then pack up our bags and act like we did our part...
Idk, I'm probably crazy. I hate politics, it runs the entire world.
It's not the players "job" to stand during the National Anthem, their job is to play football. Under a free society they have a right to take a knee if they choose to, and is against everything the first amendment stands for to try and make them stand.
I just wonder why all of these millionaires aren't contributing to something like better education in their home states, or better funding for various social programs that benefit people (think habitat for humanity, big brothers/sisters, junior achievement, etc..). It is sad that you have to dig to find news about players donating to help victims of the latest hurricanes, but somebody kneels during an anthem that holds a special place in some peoples' hearts and the media laps that shit up like its cocaine.
Evidently Kapernick did (and does) donate quite a lot of money (and time/presence/publicity) to the causes he was championing.