People are getting out, this is why. I have been seeing this since last year and its obviously because people are sick of prices and the amount of resellers.
All those "collector's" who are buying stuff they already have and fliping for market value are one of the causes.
yeah it could be the people flipping the games. or it could be the waves of casual plebs who wanted to be hip and unique by collecting retro. weak little hipster collectors causing bubbles and now moving on to tamagatchis or creepy crawlers or whatever else beta males think will make them interesting.
Reproductions can only affect the values of maybe 10% of games or fewer since the vast majority of N64 games aren't worth reproducing price-wise. Collectors only affect the market of R4 games and up. People here way overestimate the effect of what they like on the overall market itself. Just because someone's making Sculptor's Cuts doesn't have any bearing on why Excitebike 64 crashed in April. And it doesn't have anything to do with the average PS2 and original Xbox game tanking again.
Casuals nearly dominate everything in the video game universe. Always have, always will. They're gone and that's why prices are down. When they come back prices will go up. Casuals also have a ton of money and don't notice when something goes up by $11 either.
I said one cause but just for information here, how long have you been in?
its been a while. kinda hard to dictate when a collection starts. i have stuff in my collection from when i in 4rth grade( like 20 years ago), but thats not when i would say my collection started.
Reproductions can only affect the values of maybe 10% of games or fewer since the vast majority of N64 games aren't worth reproducing price-wise. Collectors only affect the market of R4 games and up. People here way overestimate the effect of what they like on the overall market itself. Just because someone's making Sculptor's Cuts doesn't have any bearing on why Excitebike 64 crashed in April.
I was more referencing the repro of games like Mario party 1,2,3 smash, mariokart 64, conkers etc. when the laymen goes to eBay and searches these games which are the go to games for casuals looking to experience nostalgia. They will see most copies at 25-30 with no hint of reproduction until you read the fine print. I know I felt the hit and stopped going after n64 lots as the resell of the staples is... leaving something to be desired.
Were there not some higher quality N64 releases maybe a year back on aliexpress of some of the $100 and up level titles? The pictures I remember thinking looked pretty solid, easy enough to confuse the average buyer or being notably cheaper they didn't care. The bubble isn't going to burst, but a market correction is likely as people get fed up with the garbage and look to other forms to run the same media. It will leave fresh meat until they're sick of it, and then the collectors and the foolish who feed off each other and that's only sustainable to a point. I'd imagine until an age group just checks out caring it won't go away.
Maybe, for a few people but not enough to make an impact. Looking at the SNES system if you include the general price people pay being impatient and wanting a game immediately loose and then the price of a SNES system in nice shape complete I think the comparable value is around maybe $900 vs $80 for the little HDMI box. It makes sense if you want a 1000 hours of fun or more potentially to pay less than 10% of the value of the original stuff.
I hope the prices go into the shitter, if you need to hoard games to flip just to buy your collection, get a better job or find a new hobby . I also don't mean never, just the people who literally rush out to the sales/stores and then post the junk on cl for eBay prices. I wish most people would troll those guys. I literally enjoy the hell out of my collection, and when I realize I don't want something/won't ever play it again it goes away.
More on topic, I think a big part of this is that the gamecube stuff isn't nearly as hard to find as NES/SNES, plus lots of people keep most of their childhood stuff and then usual unload when it's time for college (in more ways than one ). I don't think you'll ever see gamecube stuff getting really expensive, most people already tried "collecting" it and have realized they shouldn't use video games as an investment.
This is weird and maybe regional because I saw a lot of GameCube hitting the shelves of thrift stores and tables of flea markets 2-3 years ago, but this past year they are getting harder to find. I think I honestly only found maybe 5-10 GameCube games all year. Not that I bought that many, that's litertally all I saw for sale (in the wild, not in game stores). I had the impression that they were getting donated a lot couple years back, and just this year they started getting really sought after which is why they are harder to find. Seeing the average game prices dipping may be an indicator of casual collectors who bought them for a while then decided to get out.
I generally feel that the N64 and GameCube generation of kids are not the rabid collectors that the NES/SNES generation of kids are.
Heh..I was buying Gamecubes for $5.00 with cords and controllers at sales in 2010. It has gone up but it seems like that price will go down. This system just lacks ....It may never hold the popularity of the previous systems.
Maybe not, but it doesn't deserve all the hate it receives.
gamecube is debatably the best console ever made. probably the most attractive console design. controller ergonomics are incredible. 1st party library is too good. and it really knows how to handle the competition
Im not sure if what you said is sarcasm or not. So ill throw out there that the gamecube controller is actually my least favorite controller
Heh..I was buying Gamecubes for $5.00 with cords and controllers at sales in 2010. It has gone up but it seems like that price will go down. This system just lacks ....It may never hold the popularity of the previous systems.
Maybe not, but it doesn't deserve all the hate it receives.
gamecube is debatably the best console ever made. probably the most attractive console design. controller ergonomics are incredible. 1st party library is too good. and it really knows how to handle the competition
Im not sure if what you said is sarcasm or not. So ill throw out there that the gamecube controller is actually my least favorite controller
yeah, it wasnt sarcasm. idk ive always felt that it was the best by far, but when i nonbiasly look at it, i probably just like it becuase its the only oem nintendo (bundled) controller that isnt horrible. 64, wii, wii u, and switch are all really bad imo. so of the nintendo 3d era consoles its the only acceptable oem controller that was bundled with the system. i always liked the way the A B X Y button layout was too. more designed for your thumb to rest on the A button and roll to the other buttons from that position. it just makes sense. but lack of double shoulder buttons and lack of stick buttons really leave it in the dust.
Heh..I was buying Gamecubes for $5.00 with cords and controllers at sales in 2010. It has gone up but it seems like that price will go down. This system just lacks ....It may never hold the popularity of the previous systems.
Maybe not, but it doesn't deserve all the hate it receives.
gamecube is debatably the best console ever made. probably the most attractive console design. controller ergonomics are incredible. 1st party library is too good. and it really knows how to handle the competition
Im not sure if what you said is sarcasm or not. So ill throw out there that the gamecube controller is actually my least favorite controller
yeah, it wasnt sarcasm. idk ive always felt that it was the best by far, but when i nonbiasly look at it, i probably just like it becuase its the only oem nintendo (bundled) controller that isnt horrible. 64, wii, wii u, and switch are all really bad imo. so of the nintendo 3d era consoles its the only acceptable oem controller that was bundled with the system. i always liked the way the A B X Y button layout was too. more designed for your thumb to rest on the A button and roll to the other buttons from that position. it just makes sense. but lack of double shoulder buttons and lack of stick buttons really leave it in the dust.
One of my main problems with it is the button layout. The A and B buttons are in the exact opposite angle that i had grown accustomed to with the N64's and the Snes's B and Y buttons. Where the back of your thumb can rest on A/B and rock forward to Y/B. The way its on the gamecube controller is just so unnatural feeling. In addition to the tiny d pad, tiny nubb c stick and the amount of travel in the shoulder buttons just make it tooawkward for me
The GameCube controller has a great analog stick and really nice trigger buttons, but the layout of the A,B,X and Y buttons alone make it the worse video game controller I've ever used, no question.
This is weird and maybe regional because I saw a lot of GameCube hitting the shelves of thrift stores and tables of flea markets 2-3 years ago, but this past year they are getting harder to find. I think I honestly only found maybe 5-10 GameCube games all year. Not that I bought that many, that's litertally all I saw for sale (in the wild, not in game stores). I had the impression that they were getting donated a lot couple years back, and just this year they started getting really sought after which is why they are harder to find. Seeing the average game prices dipping may be an indicator of casual collectors who bought them for a while then decided to get out.
I generally feel that the N64 and GameCube generation of kids are not the rabid collectors that the NES/SNES generation of kids are.
I still find Gamecube games semi-frequently at thrift stores I frequent. Not at the rate of PS2 or XBox games, and all three systems are slowly being supplanted by a crush of 360/PS3/Wii commons. Gamecube stuff still dissapears fast off shelves; I've missed out more than once to a guy clearing out a shelf of every first party of resellable Gamecube game. Oddly, resellable PS2 & XBox games tend to linger on the shelves. Either these people only care about collecting Nintendo or aren't doing enough homework.
I've missed out more than once to a guy clearing out a shelf of every first party of resellable Gamecube game. Oddly, resellable PS2 & XBox games tend to linger on the shelves. Either these people only care about collecting Nintendo or aren't doing enough homework.
lol yeah those casual scalpers looking for anything with mario or link on the cover, and leave behind chibirobo (gc), or shenmue (dc), or futurama (xb). ive found so many copies of shenmue right in front of scalpers faces it cracks me up.
I'm right at 98 away from the full set, and most of what I need is pretty inexpensive filler, and I never see GameCube stuff locally. I find snes/nes/and n64 frequently but can't ever seem to find any cube stuff. I don't know if it's regional and the southern part of IL, due to being more impoverished then the surrounding areas, people are holding onto their GameCube/wii stuff or what it is. I bet there is at least one bundle of snes/nes/n64 posted in our local swap page daily but cube stuff is probably once a month if that and its usually just games sprinkled in with a wii bundle that people have posted for $500.
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People are getting out, this is why. I have been seeing this since last year and its obviously because people are sick of prices and the amount of resellers.
All those "collector's" who are buying stuff they already have and fliping for market value are one of the causes.
yeah it could be the people flipping the games. or it could be the waves of casual plebs who wanted to be hip and unique by collecting retro. weak little hipster collectors causing bubbles and now moving on to tamagatchis or creepy crawlers or whatever else beta males think will make them interesting.
Casuals nearly dominate everything in the video game universe. Always have, always will. They're gone and that's why prices are down. When they come back prices will go up. Casuals also have a ton of money and don't notice when something goes up by $11 either.
I said one cause but just for information here, how long have you been in?
its been a while. kinda hard to dictate when a collection starts. i have stuff in my collection from when i in 4rth grade( like 20 years ago), but thats not when i would say my collection started.
This is not just the casual people leaving either.
Reproductions can only affect the values of maybe 10% of games or fewer since the vast majority of N64 games aren't worth reproducing price-wise. Collectors only affect the market of R4 games and up. People here way overestimate the effect of what they like on the overall market itself. Just because someone's making Sculptor's Cuts doesn't have any bearing on why Excitebike 64 crashed in April.
I was more referencing the repro of games like Mario party 1,2,3 smash, mariokart 64, conkers etc. when the laymen goes to eBay and searches these games which are the go to games for casuals looking to experience nostalgia. They will see most copies at 25-30 with no hint of reproduction until you read the fine print. I know I felt the hit and stopped going after n64 lots as the resell of the staples is... leaving something to be desired.
More on topic, I think a big part of this is that the gamecube stuff isn't nearly as hard to find as NES/SNES, plus lots of people keep most of their childhood stuff and then usual unload when it's time for college (in more ways than one ). I don't think you'll ever see gamecube stuff getting really expensive, most people already tried "collecting" it and have realized they shouldn't use video games as an investment.
I generally feel that the N64 and GameCube generation of kids are not the rabid collectors that the NES/SNES generation of kids are.
Heh..I was buying Gamecubes for $5.00 with cords and controllers at sales in 2010. It has gone up but it seems like that price will go down. This system just lacks ....It may never hold the popularity of the previous systems.
Maybe not, but it doesn't deserve all the hate it receives.
gamecube is debatably the best console ever made. probably the most attractive console design. controller ergonomics are incredible. 1st party library is too good. and it really knows how to handle the competition
Im not sure if what you said is sarcasm or not. So ill throw out there that the gamecube controller is actually my least favorite controller
Heh..I was buying Gamecubes for $5.00 with cords and controllers at sales in 2010. It has gone up but it seems like that price will go down. This system just lacks ....It may never hold the popularity of the previous systems.
Maybe not, but it doesn't deserve all the hate it receives.
gamecube is debatably the best console ever made. probably the most attractive console design. controller ergonomics are incredible. 1st party library is too good. and it really knows how to handle the competition
Im not sure if what you said is sarcasm or not. So ill throw out there that the gamecube controller is actually my least favorite controller
yeah, it wasnt sarcasm. idk ive always felt that it was the best by far, but when i nonbiasly look at it, i probably just like it becuase its the only oem nintendo (bundled) controller that isnt horrible. 64, wii, wii u, and switch are all really bad imo. so of the nintendo 3d era consoles its the only acceptable oem controller that was bundled with the system. i always liked the way the A B X Y button layout was too. more designed for your thumb to rest on the A button and roll to the other buttons from that position. it just makes sense. but lack of double shoulder buttons and lack of stick buttons really leave it in the dust.
Heh..I was buying Gamecubes for $5.00 with cords and controllers at sales in 2010. It has gone up but it seems like that price will go down. This system just lacks ....It may never hold the popularity of the previous systems.
Maybe not, but it doesn't deserve all the hate it receives.
gamecube is debatably the best console ever made. probably the most attractive console design. controller ergonomics are incredible. 1st party library is too good. and it really knows how to handle the competition
Im not sure if what you said is sarcasm or not. So ill throw out there that the gamecube controller is actually my least favorite controller
yeah, it wasnt sarcasm. idk ive always felt that it was the best by far, but when i nonbiasly look at it, i probably just like it becuase its the only oem nintendo (bundled) controller that isnt horrible. 64, wii, wii u, and switch are all really bad imo. so of the nintendo 3d era consoles its the only acceptable oem controller that was bundled with the system. i always liked the way the A B X Y button layout was too. more designed for your thumb to rest on the A button and roll to the other buttons from that position. it just makes sense. but lack of double shoulder buttons and lack of stick buttons really leave it in the dust.
One of my main problems with it is the button layout. The A and B buttons are in the exact opposite angle that i had grown accustomed to with the N64's and the Snes's B and Y buttons. Where the back of your thumb can rest on A/B and rock forward to Y/B. The way its on the gamecube controller is just so unnatural feeling. In addition to the tiny d pad, tiny nubb c stick and the amount of travel in the shoulder buttons just make it tooawkward for me
This is weird and maybe regional because I saw a lot of GameCube hitting the shelves of thrift stores and tables of flea markets 2-3 years ago, but this past year they are getting harder to find. I think I honestly only found maybe 5-10 GameCube games all year. Not that I bought that many, that's litertally all I saw for sale (in the wild, not in game stores). I had the impression that they were getting donated a lot couple years back, and just this year they started getting really sought after which is why they are harder to find. Seeing the average game prices dipping may be an indicator of casual collectors who bought them for a while then decided to get out.
I generally feel that the N64 and GameCube generation of kids are not the rabid collectors that the NES/SNES generation of kids are.
I still find Gamecube games semi-frequently at thrift stores I frequent. Not at the rate of PS2 or XBox games, and all three systems are slowly being supplanted by a crush of 360/PS3/Wii commons. Gamecube stuff still dissapears fast off shelves; I've missed out more than once to a guy clearing out a shelf of every first party of resellable Gamecube game. Oddly, resellable PS2 & XBox games tend to linger on the shelves. Either these people only care about collecting Nintendo or aren't doing enough homework.
I've missed out more than once to a guy clearing out a shelf of every first party of resellable Gamecube game. Oddly, resellable PS2 & XBox games tend to linger on the shelves. Either these people only care about collecting Nintendo or aren't doing enough homework.
lol yeah those casual scalpers looking for anything with mario or link on the cover, and leave behind chibirobo (gc), or shenmue (dc), or futurama (xb). ive found so many copies of shenmue right in front of scalpers faces it cracks me up.