If they made one focusing on the Game Boy and Game Boy Color lineup, it could be huge. What if they offered wireless local multiplayer? Would be badass.
On the plus side, a good chunk of the best selling games were first party.
Tetris ( assuming rights are available)
Dr Mario
Pokemon red, green, blue, and yellow
Super Mario Land 1, 2, and Wario Land 1, 2
Kirby's Dream Land 1, 2
Link's Awakening
Donkey Kong
Donkey Kong Land 1, 2, 3
Metroid 2
Kirby's Pinball
I wonder if Pokemon would be in it. The games are selling for like 10 dollars each on the eshop, so having 3 or 4 of them on there would be pretty close to the price of the device itself I imagine. Maybe if they ended up including it they would only have one of them, probably Pokemon Yellow.
Agreed. I just hope there are enough for everyone, but the fact that they are "re-releasing" EVERYTHING (this, n64) as a "classic edition" is meh to me.
Great for the casual that wants the top handful of games in a small package however.
Maybe we can have a game cube version next! /sarcasm
Agreed. I just hope there are enough for everyone, but the fact that they are "re-releasing" EVERYTHING (this, n64) as a "classic edition" is meh to me.
Great for the casual that wants the top handful of games in a small package however.
Maybe we can have a game cube version next! /sarcasm
I prefer to look at it as a glass half full. Taking my disdain out of the equation for how Nintendo is handling the actual production and distribution of these I think all these console re-releases are fantastic. It serves a purpose.
I dunno, I feel like OG gameboy games have aged a lot worse than NES/SNES games. The monochrome graphics and tiny screen are nothing to write home about, and the library is mostly watered down ports of NES/SNES titles. The only system seller is Pokemon, but even that is going to be gimped without link cable support to trade and battle.
The games do ofcourse look and sound a lot worse on a technical level but i wouldn't say the gameplay has to be worse. Many times it's even better, like The Blues Brothers: Jukebox Adventure vs The Blues Brothers SNES and Tintin in Tibet on GB vs SNES. Most people would probably think those games suck ass anyway but i like them a lot and the GB experience is a lot more challenging and "polished".
Battletoads aswell can definitely challenge the NES version and might even better. I'd say people underrate the challenge GB can offer because it's so damn weak (wich is true) but it's not to the point that it can't have any speed or enough characters to make it excting - it still can. It's just on a much lower level that has to be taken into consideration in wich type of game you want to make.
My biggest gripe is that when there's too much speed it makes the screen blurry to the point that you can't see what's taking place and that the monochrome screen lacks shading... you can't see what's what in a fucking game like DKL with detailed ass graphics. It would've been fine with a primitive system as long as it's technology performs properly but with the GB (and GBP, GBL) that is not the case. It's not until the GBC was released that you could finally have a proper Game Boy experience the way it should be.
In the 90s when this was your only resort to play on the go is one thing, but bringing it back at this day and age doesn't bode well with me. Pass as a gamer and likely a collector as well.
If this is real and going to market maybe next year I would hope they either do a total 8bit gameboy model inside an original style shell with a modern nice screen, or they do two models over time for each of the 8bit gameboys modeled on their own handheld. Hopefully both would have like 30 games and maybe retail around the value of the NES or SNES model given it would be a portable. I've been more of a handheld game player and buyer over time than console for a long while now so this would be very appealing to me. It could be fun to try and speculate a combined or split up list.
I think this is awesome. I'm actually more excited about this than the nes or snes classic. An updated gameboy that surely will be hacked to play nes games is like a man boy fantasy. If there was an emoji for a raging boner I would post one.
I think this is awesome. I'm actually more excited about this than the nes or snes classic. An updated gameboy that surely will be hacked to play nes games is like a man boy fantasy. If there was an emoji for a raging boner I would post one.
I think this is awesome. I'm actually more excited about this than the nes or snes classic. An updated gameboy that surely will be hacked to play nes games is like a man boy fantasy. If there was an emoji for a raging boner I would post one.
I didn't "call it" but I've already been thinking about Nintendos future-progression of "Classic" gaming devices and I considered this to be likely. IMHO, I had a hunch that a handheld would potentially be the next option. I'm not 100% sure of the form factor, though. My guess is they could continue to use the little SOC device they have in the NES/SNES Classic and that will be 3x devices using the same shell. Considering that the Game Boy would be at the end of the lifecycle for that computer component, Nintendo will have saved enough money to afford a cheap screen to include with the device.
And the screen is where I'm most curious. I could be wrong (I've not professionally worked with electrical hardware in over 5 years) but there is a chance that manufacturing an LCD screen like the original GB, or even GBC, is likely more expensive than getting a modern, backlit LCD, or possibly even basic OLED display, by next year. This is because tech progresses and moves on and legacy hardware gets more expensive just because so few manufacturers continue to make the components or have the tooling to make it.
This then makes me wonder if this will be a Classic Game Boy shell with an updated back-lit color display with GB/GBC games loaded, or if they will make an original GBA-like device (though I doubt the chip would fit) so that GBA games can be added. Alternatively, they could be planning on making something altogether different but with a very-nostalgia feel. It's a tough call.
After three years of making these devices with the same internal chipset, and assuming they've sold 40-50 million units, that would pave the way for a hardware update in 2019... which could be an N64 Mini and possibly open the path for a Game Cube Classic using the same hardware by 2020, around the GameCube's 19th Birthday. Of course, in 2021 the DS will be 17 years old and I could potentially see a "DS Classic" using the same hardware if people continue to fight for these devices.
And what might be the end of this madness? Well, assuming we continue to buy these nostalgia devices like madmen/women and this consistently proves to Nintendo that the market is there, Nintendo could take a 1 year hiatus (if they hadn't already in prep for rev-2 hardware used in the N64 Classic and up) and that would take us to 2023-- the 40th Anniversary of the Famicom which would be the PERFECT time to release a nostalgia machine with 100 games across the first few consoles. Most likely NES/SNES/N64/GB/GBC/GBA. I don't necessarily believe this roadmap will happen but if the cash keeps pouring in, it seems a natural progression.
I didn't "call it" but I've already been thinking about Nintendos future-progression of "Classic" gaming devices and I considered this to be likely. IMHO, I had a hunch that a handheld would potentially be the next option. I'm not 100% sure of the form factor, though. My guess is they could continue to use the little SOC device they have in the NES/SNES Classic and that will be 3x devices using the same shell. Considering that the Game Boy would be at the end of the lifecycle for that computer component, Nintendo will have saved enough money to afford a cheap screen to include with the device.
And the screen is where I'm most curious. I could be wrong (I've not professionally worked with electrical hardware in over 5 years) but there is a chance that manufacturing an LCD screen like the original GB, or even GBC, is likely more expensive than getting a modern, backlit LCD, or possibly even basic OLED display, by next year. This is because tech progresses and moves on and legacy hardware gets more expensive just because so few manufacturers continue to make the components or have the tooling to make it.
This then makes me wonder if this will be a Classic Game Boy shell with an updated back-lit color display with GB/GBC games loaded, or if they will make an original GBA-like device (though I doubt the chip would fit) so that GBA games can be added. Alternatively, they could be planning on making something altogether different but with a very-nostalgia feel. It's a tough call.
I highly doubt they are going to be buying custom-manufacture screens for a device like this when they already buy tens of millions of screens of a couple different sizes and resolutions for their current handhelds.
I'm going to guess that they go with whatever screen exists in their current catalog that is cheapest.
But in terms of your "saved enough money to afford a cheap screen..." that isn't how any of this works.
I didn't "call it" but I've already been thinking about Nintendos future-progression of "Classic" gaming devices and I considered this to be likely. IMHO, I had a hunch that a handheld would potentially be the next option. I'm not 100% sure of the form factor, though. My guess is they could continue to use the little SOC device they have in the NES/SNES Classic and that will be 3x devices using the same shell. Considering that the Game Boy would be at the end of the lifecycle for that computer component, Nintendo will have saved enough money to afford a cheap screen to include with the device.
And the screen is where I'm most curious. I could be wrong (I've not professionally worked with electrical hardware in over 5 years) but there is a chance that manufacturing an LCD screen like the original GB, or even GBC, is likely more expensive than getting a modern, backlit LCD, or possibly even basic OLED display, by next year. This is because tech progresses and moves on and legacy hardware gets more expensive just because so few manufacturers continue to make the components or have the tooling to make it.
This then makes me wonder if this will be a Classic Game Boy shell with an updated back-lit color display with GB/GBC games loaded, or if they will make an original GBA-like device (though I doubt the chip would fit) so that GBA games can be added. Alternatively, they could be planning on making something altogether different but with a very-nostalgia feel. It's a tough call.
I highly doubt they are going to be buying custom-manufacture screens for a device like this when they already buy tens of millions of screens of a couple different sizes and resolutions for their current handhelds.
I'm going to guess that they go with whatever screen exists in their current catalog that is cheapest.
But in terms of your "saved enough money to afford a cheap screen..." that isn't how any of this works.
You miss the point. It's about manufacturing costs and a little bit of accounting trickery. The SOC device used for the NES/SNES Classic is supposedly the same device. I admit ignorance, but I know it's not a Raspberry Pi and I'm going to assume it's either proprietary or "modified" to meet Nintendo's specific needs. This setup costs money for manufacturing and often isn't cheap. That's often a BIG cost and you have kind of divide that cost across every unit sold. My point is, if they breach 35-40 million units before they even make a "Game Boy" version, then they've sold way more units than they've expected and manufacturing setup costs will long be written off. This is an "expense" they don't have to count towards each device and need sales for profitability. This is where money is "saved".
But, I agree with you. They will not make a specialty screen. My point about not getting a backlit screen similar to the original GB or GBC screens is that they probably aren't manufactured much anymore, if at all. This means a similar screen will cost more than getting a screen that 100 times better but has already been mass produced for other use cases for other companies and is, basically, $5-10 a screen at a quantity of +10 million.
Yeah, if you're talking about using the SOC that has its tooling costs already long amortized out, then that per-SOC cost is going to go down, assuming the systems are made within a close enough timeframe to maintain the same tooling/setup.
I owned a gameboy growing up. I don't have much interest in this. Of course, I said that about the NES classic... until it was hacked and I could play games that I would otherwise never have touched. I so much more want an HD n64 box!
I grew up with Gameboy too and was gifted it for Christmas the year it came out. Over all the years I picked up the updated versions just not the plastic colors as it seemed pointless. A few years ago I got a lucky find of sorts where I got a dead mint original Gameboy complete in the box with some of the contents still sealed up for around $40. I gently used it a few times but have since put it up in a nice clear plastic hobby box along side of a NES style GBA SP too. I have another of both those handhelds so they're not really going to waste but are more like a piece of art in a box I suppose like a piece seen in a museum where dust can not get to it.
Most my gaming anymore is hand held stuff and a lot of it is Gameboy based so I more than welcome anything from that old name having another lease on life and will snap it up without question. If the device exists and has the same but compressed silicon board to fit design of what is out now in both those consoles you could fit the entirely gameboy (non-color/color hybrid) into the portable which would be amazing.
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On the plus side, a good chunk of the best selling games were first party.
Tetris ( assuming rights are available)
Dr Mario
Pokemon red, green, blue, and yellow
Super Mario Land 1, 2, and Wario Land 1, 2
Kirby's Dream Land 1, 2
Link's Awakening
Donkey Kong
Donkey Kong Land 1, 2, 3
Metroid 2
Kirby's Pinball
I wonder if Pokemon would be in it. The games are selling for like 10 dollars each on the eshop, so having 3 or 4 of them on there would be pretty close to the price of the device itself I imagine. Maybe if they ended up including it they would only have one of them, probably Pokemon Yellow.
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Agreed. I just hope there are enough for everyone, but the fact that they are "re-releasing" EVERYTHING (this, n64) as a "classic edition" is meh to me.
Great for the casual that wants the top handful of games in a small package however.
Maybe we can have a game cube version next! /sarcasm
yawn
Agreed. I just hope there are enough for everyone, but the fact that they are "re-releasing" EVERYTHING (this, n64) as a "classic edition" is meh to me.
Great for the casual that wants the top handful of games in a small package however.
Maybe we can have a game cube version next! /sarcasm
I prefer to look at it as a glass half full. Taking my disdain out of the equation for how Nintendo is handling the actual production and distribution of these I think all these console re-releases are fantastic. It serves a purpose.
I dunno, I feel like OG gameboy games have aged a lot worse than NES/SNES games. The monochrome graphics and tiny screen are nothing to write home about, and the library is mostly watered down ports of NES/SNES titles. The only system seller is Pokemon, but even that is going to be gimped without link cable support to trade and battle.
The games do ofcourse look and sound a lot worse on a technical level but i wouldn't say the gameplay has to be worse. Many times it's even better, like The Blues Brothers: Jukebox Adventure vs The Blues Brothers SNES and Tintin in Tibet on GB vs SNES. Most people would probably think those games suck ass anyway but i like them a lot and the GB experience is a lot more challenging and "polished".
Battletoads aswell can definitely challenge the NES version and might even better. I'd say people underrate the challenge GB can offer because it's so damn weak (wich is true) but it's not to the point that it can't have any speed or enough characters to make it excting - it still can. It's just on a much lower level that has to be taken into consideration in wich type of game you want to make.
My biggest gripe is that when there's too much speed it makes the screen blurry to the point that you can't see what's taking place and that the monochrome screen lacks shading... you can't see what's what in a fucking game like DKL with detailed ass graphics. It would've been fine with a primitive system as long as it's technology performs properly but with the GB (and GBP, GBL) that is not the case. It's not until the GBC was released that you could finally have a proper Game Boy experience the way it should be.
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In the 90s when this was your only resort to play on the go is one thing, but bringing it back at this day and age doesn't bode well with me. Pass as a gamer and likely a collector as well.
I think this is awesome. I'm actually more excited about this than the nes or snes classic. An updated gameboy that surely will be hacked to play nes games is like a man boy fantasy. If there was an emoji for a raging boner I would post one.
I think this is awesome. I'm actually more excited about this than the nes or snes classic. An updated gameboy that surely will be hacked to play nes games is like a man boy fantasy. If there was an emoji for a raging boner I would post one.
Lol, that will suffice.
And the screen is where I'm most curious. I could be wrong (I've not professionally worked with electrical hardware in over 5 years) but there is a chance that manufacturing an LCD screen like the original GB, or even GBC, is likely more expensive than getting a modern, backlit LCD, or possibly even basic OLED display, by next year. This is because tech progresses and moves on and legacy hardware gets more expensive just because so few manufacturers continue to make the components or have the tooling to make it.
This then makes me wonder if this will be a Classic Game Boy shell with an updated back-lit color display with GB/GBC games loaded, or if they will make an original GBA-like device (though I doubt the chip would fit) so that GBA games can be added. Alternatively, they could be planning on making something altogether different but with a very-nostalgia feel. It's a tough call.
After three years of making these devices with the same internal chipset, and assuming they've sold 40-50 million units, that would pave the way for a hardware update in 2019... which could be an N64 Mini and possibly open the path for a Game Cube Classic using the same hardware by 2020, around the GameCube's 19th Birthday. Of course, in 2021 the DS will be 17 years old and I could potentially see a "DS Classic" using the same hardware if people continue to fight for these devices.
And what might be the end of this madness? Well, assuming we continue to buy these nostalgia devices like madmen/women and this consistently proves to Nintendo that the market is there, Nintendo could take a 1 year hiatus (if they hadn't already in prep for rev-2 hardware used in the N64 Classic and up) and that would take us to 2023-- the 40th Anniversary of the Famicom which would be the PERFECT time to release a nostalgia machine with 100 games across the first few consoles. Most likely NES/SNES/N64/GB/GBC/GBA. I don't necessarily believe this roadmap will happen but if the cash keeps pouring in, it seems a natural progression.
I didn't "call it" but I've already been thinking about Nintendos future-progression of "Classic" gaming devices and I considered this to be likely. IMHO, I had a hunch that a handheld would potentially be the next option. I'm not 100% sure of the form factor, though. My guess is they could continue to use the little SOC device they have in the NES/SNES Classic and that will be 3x devices using the same shell. Considering that the Game Boy would be at the end of the lifecycle for that computer component, Nintendo will have saved enough money to afford a cheap screen to include with the device.
And the screen is where I'm most curious. I could be wrong (I've not professionally worked with electrical hardware in over 5 years) but there is a chance that manufacturing an LCD screen like the original GB, or even GBC, is likely more expensive than getting a modern, backlit LCD, or possibly even basic OLED display, by next year. This is because tech progresses and moves on and legacy hardware gets more expensive just because so few manufacturers continue to make the components or have the tooling to make it.
This then makes me wonder if this will be a Classic Game Boy shell with an updated back-lit color display with GB/GBC games loaded, or if they will make an original GBA-like device (though I doubt the chip would fit) so that GBA games can be added. Alternatively, they could be planning on making something altogether different but with a very-nostalgia feel. It's a tough call.
I highly doubt they are going to be buying custom-manufacture screens for a device like this when they already buy tens of millions of screens of a couple different sizes and resolutions for their current handhelds.
I'm going to guess that they go with whatever screen exists in their current catalog that is cheapest.
But in terms of your "saved enough money to afford a cheap screen..." that isn't how any of this works.
I didn't "call it" but I've already been thinking about Nintendos future-progression of "Classic" gaming devices and I considered this to be likely. IMHO, I had a hunch that a handheld would potentially be the next option. I'm not 100% sure of the form factor, though. My guess is they could continue to use the little SOC device they have in the NES/SNES Classic and that will be 3x devices using the same shell. Considering that the Game Boy would be at the end of the lifecycle for that computer component, Nintendo will have saved enough money to afford a cheap screen to include with the device.
And the screen is where I'm most curious. I could be wrong (I've not professionally worked with electrical hardware in over 5 years) but there is a chance that manufacturing an LCD screen like the original GB, or even GBC, is likely more expensive than getting a modern, backlit LCD, or possibly even basic OLED display, by next year. This is because tech progresses and moves on and legacy hardware gets more expensive just because so few manufacturers continue to make the components or have the tooling to make it.
This then makes me wonder if this will be a Classic Game Boy shell with an updated back-lit color display with GB/GBC games loaded, or if they will make an original GBA-like device (though I doubt the chip would fit) so that GBA games can be added. Alternatively, they could be planning on making something altogether different but with a very-nostalgia feel. It's a tough call.
I highly doubt they are going to be buying custom-manufacture screens for a device like this when they already buy tens of millions of screens of a couple different sizes and resolutions for their current handhelds.
I'm going to guess that they go with whatever screen exists in their current catalog that is cheapest.
But in terms of your "saved enough money to afford a cheap screen..." that isn't how any of this works.
You miss the point. It's about manufacturing costs and a little bit of accounting trickery. The SOC device used for the NES/SNES Classic is supposedly the same device. I admit ignorance, but I know it's not a Raspberry Pi and I'm going to assume it's either proprietary or "modified" to meet Nintendo's specific needs. This setup costs money for manufacturing and often isn't cheap. That's often a BIG cost and you have kind of divide that cost across every unit sold. My point is, if they breach 35-40 million units before they even make a "Game Boy" version, then they've sold way more units than they've expected and manufacturing setup costs will long be written off. This is an "expense" they don't have to count towards each device and need sales for profitability. This is where money is "saved".
But, I agree with you. They will not make a specialty screen. My point about not getting a backlit screen similar to the original GB or GBC screens is that they probably aren't manufactured much anymore, if at all. This means a similar screen will cost more than getting a screen that 100 times better but has already been mass produced for other use cases for other companies and is, basically, $5-10 a screen at a quantity of +10 million.
Yeah, if you're talking about using the SOC that has its tooling costs already long amortized out, then that per-SOC cost is going to go down, assuming the systems are made within a close enough timeframe to maintain the same tooling/setup.
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What we really need is the VB Classic. :-)
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What we really need is the VB Classic. :-)
Haha yeah they'll sell an entire 5 of those
yawn
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What we really need is the VB Classic. :-)
Haha yeah they'll sell an entire 5 of those
I'd probably get one
yawn
Double yawn
What we really need is the VB Classic. :-)
Haha yeah they'll sell an entire 5 of those
I'd probably get one
Haha the good ol' Virtual Boy. What'd really be great is if it was all small and strained your eyes even more to see what the hell's going on.
Most my gaming anymore is hand held stuff and a lot of it is Gameboy based so I more than welcome anything from that old name having another lease on life and will snap it up without question. If the device exists and has the same but compressed silicon board to fit design of what is out now in both those consoles you could fit the entirely gameboy (non-color/color hybrid) into the portable which would be amazing.