Strange N64 Video Problems

So before I remember my N64 working fine in the past sometimes with slight visual bugs that'd go away, but this time I hooked it up I got no signal at all. I cleaned all my games, the game slot, the jumper pack, the jumper pack slot, not a signal. I knew it was most likely neither the games nor the jumper pack since my gameshark would count down.



After goofing around with it for a while, I found out that if I unplug the AV cable, start the system, wait a few seconds, and plug it back in, I'd get some picture. Here's it on SM64.



And if I waited longer I could get further in the game, up until when I walk in the castle door, which would cut the signal no matter what.



A similar thing happened with Yoshi's Story, where it'd show the title screen until I pressed start, then it'd drop the signal. However I wasn't able to capture it happening today for some reason.

Same thing also happens with the game shark, where it cuts signal if I start the game.



However I could not get a signal from Zelda OoT no matter how much I tried.



What I know:

It's not the AV cables, they work perfect on my SNES

It's most likely not the games, it'd be unlikely for all of my games to break in the same way all at once

It's likely not the jumper pack, as I've read problems with the jumper pack causes games not to boot

It's probably not the cartridge slot, as I don't think it'd cause breaking video with fine gameplay.



I ordered some game bits and they're in the mail right now, when I get them I'll check for things inside. Also it'd be cool if someone can tell me what they think it could be and where to check for it.

Comments

  • try using an svideo cable instead of a composite cable. ive come across a few n64s that have lost their composite out over the years. perhaps yours is starting to loose its.



    make sure your expantion or jumper pak is oem first party, those cheap ones can cause strange issues.



    also i know you dont want to hear this but take it apart. remove the heat sinks, and clean the legs of all the chips really good, be very liberal with the alcohal, same with the expansion slot, use compresed air to blow as much alcohal out as possible. allow to dry for 1 full day. reassemble and try again. (before taking apart the board be sure to examine everything)



    but ill bet a 3 dollar svideo cable will allow you to use this system fine if thats all your after. if your looking to resell it most people are going to want comp out.



    image

    the yellow areas in this picture are the areas ive cleaned to fix dozens of "junk" n64 consoles.



    good luck
  • i had a super nintendo that was doing something similar and it was a bad power supply 
  • Change the power supply.
  • You can replace the capacitors in the power supply to retain the oem quality. Instead of buying one of the garbage knockoffs.
  • ive had power supplies cause issues with snes nes and genesis, but never n64. ive bought refurbed and sold over 100 64 consoles most of which were labeled as not working "as is" units. never came across a power supply that causes visual issues.
  • Thanks for all the tips guys!



    Neither of my TVs have an s video port so getting an s video plug wouldn't make too much sense for me.



    My jumper pack is OEM.



    When my game bits arrive in the mail I'll open it up and clean it really good. Also do you have any tips on what to apply the alcohol to? Will Q tips be fine?



    I don't think it's the power supply but I will test it if all else fails, never know. Better safe than sorry.





    I'll update when I've tried more.
  • i usually use a small tooth brush. it will hold quite a bit of alcohal, and works great for scrubbing all the pins around those chips. before scrubbing examine the large chip i outlined in yellow. often times filth will get onto this chip from the cartridge slot. probably 10-20 percent of the refurbs ive done just required removing dirt from the top legs of that chip. that would turn bricked consoles into perfect working 64s.
  • So I got my game bits this morning and instantly cracked open the console and got to work. The insides were a bit dirty on the plastic but most of the boards basically looked brand new. I scrubbed the yellow areas with a toothbrush and alcohol a few times, along with the cartridge slot, waited about 4-5 hours for it to dry, and re-assembled it. There was no difference in it's performance. It still does the same thing it did before. I checked underneath for cracked solder or something like that but nothing looked off. The only thing I noticed off was one of the pins in the yellowed area was a bit black/dirty, and I couldn't clean it. It led to the chip next to it. Not sure if that has much to do with it but I thought I'd point it out.



    Also something I noticed when taking it apart is that some screws were missing, which makes me think someone else has been in it before.



    Also the cartridge tray was jungle green for some reason, is this common or do you think it was refurbished? https://i.imgur.com/8xip0tp.jpg



    I'll just most likely buy a replacement console if I can't get this working, not a huge deal.
  • Originally posted by: Toasterberry



    So before I remember my N64 working fine in the past sometimes with slight visual bugs that'd go away, but this time I hooked it up I got no signal at all. I cleaned all my games, the game slot, the jumper pack, the jumper pack slot, not a signal. I knew it was most likely neither the games nor the jumper pack since my gameshark would count down.

     

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    After goofing around with it for a while, I found out that if I unplug the AV cable, start the system, wait a few seconds, and plug it back in, I'd get some picture. Here's it on SM64.

     

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    And if I waited longer I could get further in the game, up until when I walk in the castle door, which would cut the signal no matter what.

     

    allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="280" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/HcrjWpVMRk4" width="500">>






    A similar thing happened with Yoshi's Story, where it'd show the title screen until I pressed start, then it'd drop the signal. However I wasn't able to capture it happening today for some reason.

    Same thing also happens with the game shark, where it cuts signal if I start the game.

     

    allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="280" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/KUX7yRbpNPY" width="500">>






    However I could not get a signal from Zelda OoT no matter how much I tried.



    What I know:

    It's not the AV cables, they work perfect on my SNES

    It's most likely not the games, it'd be unlikely for all of my games to break in the same way all at once

    It's likely not the jumper pack, as I've read problems with the jumper pack causes games not to boot

    It's probably not the cartridge slot, as I don't think it'd cause breaking video with fine gameplay.



    I ordered some game bits and they're in the mail right now, when I get them I'll check for things inside. Also it'd be cool if someone can tell me what they think it could be and where to check for it.



    clean the multi out pins with a qtip and alcohol. if that doesn't fix it it could be the power supply or a bad cap inside.



    ive had an n64 with weird video issues. after i cleaned the connections it worked fine for me afterwards.

     
  • I tried cleaning them but same results. I will probably hit up my local game store and see if I can test it there with their power supply and jumper, to rule out all other possibilities. If it's still broken, I'll just probably deem it junk and get another.
  • Originally posted by: Toasterberry



    I tried cleaning them but same results. I will probably hit up my local game store and see if I can test it there with their power supply and jumper, to rule out all other possibilities. If it's still broken, I'll just probably deem it junk and get another.



    good idea imo.  good luck!

     
  • The jungle green slots appeared on later models. I have most commonly seen them on NS3 consoles. If you happen to own a Jungle Green, they make for a cool "upgrade".
  • Originally posted by: Toasterberry



    So before I remember my N64 working fine in the past sometimes with slight visual bugs that'd go away, but this time I hooked it up I got no signal at all. I cleaned all my games, the game slot, the jumper pack, the jumper pack slot, not a signal. I knew it was most likely neither the games nor the jumper pack since my gameshark would count down.

     

    allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="280" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/9jZWtSB70d8" width="500">>






    After goofing around with it for a while, I found out that if I unplug the AV cable, start the system, wait a few seconds, and plug it back in, I'd get some picture. Here's it on SM64.

     

    allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="280" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/v7PkoPAnow0" width="500">>






    And if I waited longer I could get further in the game, up until when I walk in the castle door, which would cut the signal no matter what.

     

    allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="280" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/HcrjWpVMRk4" width="500">>






    A similar thing happened with Yoshi's Story, where it'd show the title screen until I pressed start, then it'd drop the signal. However I wasn't able to capture it happening today for some reason.

    Same thing also happens with the game shark, where it cuts signal if I start the game.

     

    allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="280" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/KUX7yRbpNPY" width="500">>






    However I could not get a signal from Zelda OoT no matter how much I tried.



    What I know:

    It's not the AV cables, they work perfect on my SNES

    It's most likely not the games, it'd be unlikely for all of my games to break in the same way all at once

    It's likely not the jumper pack, as I've read problems with the jumper pack causes games not to boot

    It's probably not the cartridge slot, as I don't think it'd cause breaking video with fine gameplay.



    I ordered some game bits and they're in the mail right now, when I get them I'll check for things inside. Also it'd be cool if someone can tell me what they think it could be and where to check for it.



    A lot of early SNES systems (with modular sound processor and cartridge locking mechanism) have a very similar issue.

     
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