Mario All Stars + SMW Issue

Hi guys, I'm trying to help out a friend and I have a Super Mario All Stars + Super Mario World cart that has garbled graphics, but not in all areas.  The opening title screens look fine, but the menu screen is pretty messed up (https://imgur.com/a/oNOTE).



Super Mario 1, 2, and Lost levels all seem to play just fine, and even though the game is actually missing it's battery (it has the tabs, but no battery attatched to them), it did resume at a later level in Mario 2.  



Mario 3 comes up with messed up graphics as well, and Super Mario World, fails to load at all, stalling at a black screen. 



Any idea's on what I can do to try and get things working again?  The board itself has a bit of light corrosion on the pins, but not where it sits in the console, and I've checked a couple of the pins that looked worse than others, and they do still have a connection. 



Here's some pics of the board (https://imgur.com/a/L9tvr )



Comments

  • Might the missing battery be a possible culprit?
  • Originally posted by: Bert



    Might the missing battery be a possible culprit?



    Nothing I do with a battery seems to have any effect on it.



    Also, Mario 3 will actually start, but the entire game has graphical glitches everywhere. 

     
  • Pin damage, most certainly.
  • Originally posted by: ifightdragons



    Pin damage, most certainly.

    Could you elaborate a bit? I went back and use a multimeter to check for continuity and I could at least get something across every pin on the edge to one of the IC's on the board.  I checked both sides of the cart to make sure.  
  • Get some metal polish paste and an a cloth & polish those pins til every spec is off of them. Might even take a old toothbrush and rubbing alcohol & brush all over the chip connections and board cleaning it up a bit too. Before cleaning the cart connectors use the cart to clean the pins inside the console by adding alcohol with qtip and putting cart in and out of machine cleaning cart edge each time you remove with dry qtip. If this don't fix it then it could be the capacitor on the board (easy replace) or a bad ram chip. I recently had a famiclone with a bad ram chip which I replaced with one from NES board and it fixed it. If the sprites are working but background is garbled then it's video ram chip or at least that was my situation. Carts going bad seems rare from my experience & those connectors look to be a bit tarnished with a few bad spots so polishing past might work wonders. I use little tub of metal glo which is typically sold in knife stores to polish knife blades but it's made to work on any metal. A tube of it goes a very long way. Semi Chrome polish is the best but cost a little more if you can find metal glo. Metal glo is in blue tube with yellow writing & semi chrome is yellow tube with maroon bars going up side of tube. Even when I have a shiny connector and use this stuff the cloth always comes off black so it's really good stuff.
  • Originally posted by: dav3yb

     
    Originally posted by: ifightdragons



    Pin damage, most certainly.

    Could you elaborate a bit? I went back and use a multimeter to check for continuity and I could at least get something across every pin on the edge to one of the IC's on the board.  I checked both sides of the cart to make sure.  





    I just know by experience that if the game boots up, but the graphics are garbled, something is not connecting fully and properly. You should try and clean the pin like Nesmaniac said, and hope that it's not beyond repair. This happens from time to time.
  • If all else fails, the MASKROM and SRAM chips can be transplanted to a board from a donor cartridge. If that has the same problem, one of the chips might actually be bad.
  • Originally posted by: ifightdragons

     
    Originally posted by: dav3yb

     
    Originally posted by: ifightdragons



    Pin damage, most certainly.

    Could you elaborate a bit? I went back and use a multimeter to check for continuity and I could at least get something across every pin on the edge to one of the IC's on the board.  I checked both sides of the cart to make sure.  





    I just know by experience that if the game boots up, but the graphics are garbled, something is not connecting fully and properly. You should try and clean the pin like Nesmaniac said, and hope that it's not beyond repair. This happens from time to time.



    I've cleaned as best as alcohol will let me, but there is certainly a possibility that something somewhere that i just can't see if not making that connection.  I don't think it's a huge deal if I can't get it working, but are there actually any doner carts that would be cheap enough to warrant trying to swap? 

     
  • To be honest, swapping out boards and suitable donor carts is beyond my scope of technical knowledge. Hopefully someone here can chime in.



    I suggest posting a new topic in the Help Wanted! section and ask specifically about that. I'm sure you'll get some helpful replies.
  • Originally posted by: dav3yb

     
    Originally posted by: ifightdragons

     
    Originally posted by: dav3yb

     
    Originally posted by: ifightdragons



    Pin damage, most certainly.

    Could you elaborate a bit? I went back and use a multimeter to check for continuity and I could at least get something across every pin on the edge to one of the IC's on the board.  I checked both sides of the cart to make sure.  





    I just know by experience that if the game boots up, but the graphics are garbled, something is not connecting fully and properly. You should try and clean the pin like Nesmaniac said, and hope that it's not beyond repair. This happens from time to time.



    I've cleaned as best as alcohol will let me, but there is certainly a possibility that something somewhere that i just can't see if not making that connection.  I don't think it's a huge deal if I can't get it working, but are there actually any doner carts that would be cheap enough to warrant trying to swap? 

     





    Alcohol just does so much I just use it to get basic dust off you need to polish the connectors with a metal polish then go over it with alcohol. Those big pink erasers work good as well. Also, you can by a Japanese version of All-stars on ebay for a few bucks & switch housings. I recently ordered like 4 or 5 copies for less than $5 each from Japan4You. Still, I recommend fixing one you have if possible because satisfying to fix stuff but since you have a housing already buying the super famicom version cheap is a great alternative.
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