Shelving material

I have been using 1x6 common wood from Home Depot for my shelves. I moved and have a much bigger room for game stuff but it has to share with my other collections(random things from my childhood). The wood I was using is just a normial pine 1x6 that pretty much sells for about $1 a foot. Well they have a pressure treated 1x6 that sells for about $6 for a 8 foot board. I am a bit worried about the chemicals in the pressure treated woods. I will be painting the baords a semi gloss black. Do I have anything to worry about? I know PT wood is really for outdoors but it is quite a bit cheaper which means more/bigger shelving. They really cant be used together because the PT is a bit wider than the common board and I don't have a way to rip them.

Comments

  • I wouldn't use the pressure treated wood for your shelves.



    Also, there is no reason why the pressure treated wood should be cheaper than non pressure treated. Try looking at the whiteboard 1x6's. They will have more knots than the regular pine boards, but they will be no worse than a pressure treated wood which will have plenty of knots in it.



    Also, I've never seen pressure treated 1x boards. That sounds odd.
  • Don't use pressure treated wood indoors -- ever.



    I also wouldn't count on treated wood taking paint very well, if at all.





    The only reason pressure treated would be cheaper than non-treated would be if you're buying a higher quality non-treated board than the equivalent grade of treated lumber.
  • Originally posted by: arch_8ngel



    Don't use pressure treated wood indoors -- ever.



     



    Unless you are building a house of course.  

     
  • Originally posted by: arch_8ngel



    I also wouldn't count on treated wood taking paint very well, if at all.



     

    Actually, it will take paint very well after it's been in use for a while and dried out.  But I still certainly wouldn't recommend it for shelving.  

     
  • Originally posted by: TDIRunner

     
    Originally posted by: arch_8ngel



    Don't use pressure treated wood indoors -- ever.

     



    Unless you are building a house of course.  

     



    Generally speaking, isn't pressure treated lumber for outdoor applications?





    Only framing below flood risk levels is supposed to be treated -- at least that ws the standard I understood.



    Normal framing, above the flood plain, shouldn't be using it right? 





    (and aside from the chemicals that you don't want in your house, the moisture content of treated lumber is higher than acceptable anyway, for interior applications, right?  )



     
  • Originally posted by: arch_8ngel

     
    Originally posted by: TDIRunner

     
    Originally posted by: arch_8ngel



    Don't use pressure treated wood indoors -- ever.

     



    Unless you are building a house of course.  

     



    Only framing below flood risk levels is supposed to be treated -- at least that ws the standard I understood.



    Generallys peaking, pressure treated lumber is for outdoor applications.





    Normal framing, above the flood plain, shouldn't be using it right? 







     

    Around here anything that touches your foundation or concrete basement floor must be treated.  I've never seen a building code that doesn't require it.  



     
  • Originally posted by: TDIRunner

     
     

    Around here anything that touches your foundation or concrete basement floor must be treated.  I've never seen a building code that doesn't require it.  



     

    i.e. flood-prone/risk items plus the sill-plate.



    Assuming you're building on a crawl or a slab, and don't have a basement, you aren't framing the entire first-floor wall in contact with the foundation in treated lumber are you?  (just the sill plate, right?)







    I can understand basement framing as similar to flood risk requirements -- but even then, that would make me really leery of what older basements using older forms of treated lumber would be outgassing.  (newer stuff is treated with different chemicals that supposedly don't pose the same health risks indoors)

     
  • Originally posted by: arch_8ngel

     
    Originally posted by: TDIRunner

     
     

    Around here anything that touches your foundation or concrete basement floor must be treated.  I've never seen a building code that doesn't require it.  



     

    i.e. flood-prone/risk items plus the sill-plate.



    Assuming you're building on a crawl or a slab, and don't have a basement, you aren't framing the entire first-floor wall in contact with the foundation in treated lumber are you?  (just the sill plate, right?)







    I can understand basement framing as similar to flood risk requirements -- but even then, that would make me really leery of what older basements using older forms of treated lumber would be outgassing.  (newer stuff is treated with different chemicals that supposedly don't pose the same health risks indoors)

     

    No, just the sill plate, but my point was that you are using it indoors.  



    But again, not for shelving. 



     
  • Originally posted by: TDIRunner

     


     

    No, just the sill plate, but my point was that you are using it indoors.  



    But again, not for shelving. 

     



    Yeah, exactly... and also it probably wasn't cut indoors in the first place, because when you're putting in the sill plate there aren't walls yet    





    I just don't want this guy risking his and his family's health by cutting and using treated lumber as if the saw dust was comparable to normal lumber.

    (not that you want to breathe any sawdust in, but you REALLY don't want to breathe in treated sawdust  )



    Also, I think PT lumber would take paint terribly, anyway, due to the chemicals interacting with the paint and primer.

     
  • Originally posted by: arch_8ngel



    Also, I think PT lumber would take paint terribly, anyway, due to the chemicals interacting with the paint and primer.

     





    Like I said, it takes paint very well, but it needs to be in place for a while.  I've painted a pressure treated deck that belonged to someone else many years ago.  It was at least one year old before we painted it, but it has held the paint for nearly 8 years now.  We have only needed to repaint the actual deck boards due to the high foot traffic.  
  • Originally posted by: TDIRunner

     
    Originally posted by: arch_8ngel



    Also, I think PT lumber would take paint terribly, anyway, due to the chemicals interacting with the paint and primer.

     





    Like I said, it takes paint very well, but it needs to be in place for a while.  I've painted a pressure treated deck that belonged to someone else many years ago.  It was at least one year old before we painted it,...

    Yeah.  It has to dry out for a LONG time.



    And in the meantime whatever he stored on shelves made of PT lumber is going to be in contact with the treatment chemicals.







    EDIT:  and I know this is your trade, and I'm not nitpicking your familiarity with this material.



    I just don't want the OP (or anybody else, for that matter) thinking that PT lumber would be a good idea for indoor shelving, under any normal circumstance.
  • Originally posted by: arch_8ngel



    Yeah.  It has to dry out for a LONG time.

     



    Yes, which I said from the beginning.  
  • They generally dont make pressure treated in 1x anyways, so unless you were going to make 2x6 shelves you probably should stick with common shelf board.



    I personally would go with the laminated white as its a smoother surface and you don't need to paint- thats what I did in my game room closet (ill post a pic later)
  • Thanks for the reply's. Yea it is really strange that the 1x6 untreated runs about a buck a foot where the treated is like $.75/foot but only comes in 8 foot sections. The untreated common 1x6 runs in 6,8,10,12 foot lengths. The laminated white boards are about $1.20 a foot and come in I think 6,8,10,12 foot lengths.



    I also don't understand why pt is cheaper.



    1x6 pt

    https://www.homedepot.com/p/WeatherShield-1-in-x-6-in-x-8-ft-Ground-Contact-Pressure-Treated-Board-253935/206974075



    1x6 untreated

    https://www.homedepot.com/p/1-in-x-6-in-x-8-ft-Premium-Kiln-Dried-Square-Edge-Whitewood-Common-Board-914770/100028725
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