How many licensed NES games are there?

How many licensed NES games are in the complete NES library?  I am getting mixed answers anywhere from 677-679?



How many unlicnsed games are there?  From what I understand there are 91 unlincensed titles.  I am not including Sachen.



Thanks! 

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  • If we're just talking North America, 677 games with unique code. This would include Mike Tyson's Punch Out and Punch Out as separate games, and the combo carts (Donkey Kong Classics, SMB\DH) as separate from the individual games. It would not include variations in labels, etc. Does not include NWCs, test carts, or Europe exclusives (that would add another 30 unique licensed games.) Doesn't include the Hong Kong exclusive Mah Jong licensed cart, or anything else released outside of North America.



    91 unlicensed, including the unreleased Cheetahmen II.
  • This was very helpful thanks! However, this does include Stadium Events I am assuming.
  • Yep, different title screen from World Class Track Meet, different code.



    Also, the same game by different publishers count as separate games. Tengen and Namco Pac-Man are separate, and Tengen and Mindscape Temple of Doom are separate (slightly different title screens.)



    Caltron's 6-in-1 is separate from Myriad's, even though only the label is different. Can't remember if the AVE and SEI Impossible Mission II have different title screens, I think that they do.

     
  • Impossible Mission II is cheap enough that nobody cares, may as well get both
  • I count the Aladdin games with the unlicensed US set. People go either way. You can get the whole thing brand new with all the games for like 100 bucks so why not grab it anyway as a weird part of NES history.
  • Originally posted by: DefaultGen



    I count the Aladdin games with the unlicensed US set. People go either way.

    How is there another way to go than to consider the Aladdin games as part of the unlicensed US set?



    Seems incredibly clear-cut.



     
  • Originally posted by: arch_8ngel

     
    Originally posted by: DefaultGen



    I count the Aladdin games with the unlicensed US set. People go either way.

    How is there another way to go than to consider the Aladdin games as part of the unlicensed US set?



    Seems incredibly clear-cut.



     



    I've seen people say only the exclusive Dizzy counts or that it's a hardware accessory and the games count towards its own library. It's too weird for me to say a game in an entirely different form factor that runs via an add-on is just a variant, and I usually fall on the side of only wanting one copy of any given game.
  • 677 NTSC/USA Licensed Games



    339 PAL B Games



    296 PAL A Games



    I think there are 1061 Famicom games? Haven't really gotten around to that one yet.



    There are also 91 Unlicensed games on the "Standard" Set but it counts stuff like AVE/SEI Impossible Mission, or Myriad/Caltron as separate entries while ignoring that AGCI Wally Bear and Sharedata Chiller exist, yet still allows prototype/unfinished games like Cheetahmen II...yet still doesn't count the Aladdin Deck Enhancer games as separate and also ignoring the 66 or 67 SACHEN games.



    There are also PAL unlicensed games from Codemasters (Camerica in USA), Gluk, HES, Micro Genius, and the aforementioned Sachen.



    Then there are complexities and obscurities.



    for Brazil, Playtronic is the licensed company who distributed everything there but they also owned Gradiente who released unlicensed games, but gradiente didn't explicitly Pirate the games...these games have USA licensed variants as well. Then there's the countless Pirate companies down there.



    India has the Samurai system and that list is no where near complete but it's a licensed set too. No one knows what's what yet for that system.



    Hyundai Comboy is South Korea and they have a licensed set as well. I'm on my phone so I don't remember by heart what's on there but it's a significant set.



    Then you have Asia, and Hong Kong NES. Famous for their purple small boxes and the rarest licensed NES game, Mah Jong. Fun set to collect for but not really a practical one.



    There's some oddball boxes and manuals for countries like Greece, and Israel. Fully licensed and everything.



    Last, there seems to be rumors of South Africa having licensed games too...but I have no real leads on that.
  • Originally posted by: DefaultGen

     
    Originally posted by: arch_8ngel

     
    Originally posted by: DefaultGen



    I count the Aladdin games with the unlicensed US set. People go either way.

    How is there another way to go than to consider the Aladdin games as part of the unlicensed US set?



    Seems incredibly clear-cut.



     



    I've seen people say only the exclusive Dizzy counts or that it's a hardware accessory and the games count towards its own library. It's too weird for me to say a game in an entirely different form factor that runs via an add-on is just a variant, and I usually fall on the side of only wanting one copy of any given game.

    That seems like a ridiculous position to take, since they are a completely different form factor and supposedly have some interaction with the add-on besides it just acting as an adapter.



     
  • I don't count the Aladdin games other than Dizzy and the NA list doesn't count them either. I think there might be some subtle differences between the Aladdin versions and the original versions as far as the ROM goes. People don't general count ROM revisions though, but I can see arguments both ways.



    Not counting them is certainly not because of their cost, I just don't like the fact that they don't function as games on their own. The dizzy game is different because the only way you can get it is bundled with the adapter, so it's basically just a game that is sold and needs to be assembled from 2 parts that come in the same package.



    Licensed game list is 677, unlicensed is 91, for a total of 768. This is the same number as the NA list, which is the *OFFICIAL* list as far as I'm concerned.
  • by that logic, if you own 676 NES games + a big box Gyromite but no small box gyromite then you don't have a full set.



    Or, if you don't have a Zapper then you don't have a full set because you can't play any Zapper Required Games.



    Or imagine owning a CIB Stadium Events Plus 676 CIB nes Games but being disqualified because you don't own a power pad.



    Do you need a satellite or four score to say you own NES Play Action Football? A feature is locked out without it (four player gameplay)



    Do you need a power glove to own a licensed set?



    Accessories are just that, accessory, secondary, peripheral, [synonym here]
  • Gyromite, Stadium Events, Duck Hunt, etc can all be plugged into a NES and turned on and shown to be functional (at the bare minimum you get a title screen you can stare at) without any accessories. The Aladdin carts aren't even NES games without the adapter, they do absoultely nothing and can't even be plugged into a NES. That's a pretty big difference.



    The Dizzy game is an exception because it comes with the adapter (and in fact could not be purchased without it, unlike the other Aladdin carts) and is basically a NES game that comes in 2 parts to be assembled be use.  I keep mine in the adapter at all times and treat it like any other NES game.



    The reason that they aren't counted on the NA list is because they were all released on full blown carts before the Aladdin carts came out, and by the same publisher.  If they had seperate publishers, the NA list would count them, but they don't.  I don't have a strong opinion about not counting them, but to me they are basically just cheapo budget versions of the full carts, and really not that interesting to me.
  • dwelve or so.
  • Ah I understand now. I can roll with that, while I don't really agree with it. but I say thats fair reasoning.



    My standards are all inclusive and has any functional code for the system meant for play or use to be added to the list, and then throw qualifiers at it and see where each item is classified at (e.g. Licensed, Unlicensed, Pirate, Rom Hack, Homebrew, etc.)



    Like that I can ignore any development stuff, hello world stuff, prototypes and the like while still including things like Taboo, Videomation, and Color a Dinosaur.
  • I remember this discussion (since I started it years ago) - http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=5&threadid=96554
  • Thanks! 



    And what exactly is the difference between Pal B and Pal A ?



    Are there some Pal b exclusives that don't exit for Pal A?



     
  • Originally posted by: the_retro_game_guy



    And what exactly is the difference between Pal B and Pal A ?

     

    Regions.

    PAL A = UK, Italy, Australia.



    PAL B = Scandinavia, Germany, France, Spain, Netherlands, etc.



    There are some that are exclusive to regions, or even countries. Mr. Gimmick (NES) was only PAL B Scandinavia, for instance.
  • PAL A & B Exclusives

    - Aladdin

    - Asterix

    - Championship Rally

    - Crackout

    - Dropzone

    - Elite

    - Kickoff

    - Konami Hyper Soccer

    - Lion King

    - Legend of Prince Valiant

    - Mario Bros. Classic Serie Edition

    - New Ghostbusters II

    - Noah's Ark

    - Parodius

    - Rackets & Rivals

    - Rainbow Islands: the Story of Bubble Bobble 2

    - Parasol Stars: Rainbow Islands II

    - Road Fighters

    - Rodland

    - Smurfs

    - Super Mario Bros. / Tetris / Nintendo World Cup

    - Super Turrican

    - Tecmo World Cup Soccer

    - Trolls in Crazyland

    - U-Four-Ia



    PAL A Exclusives

    - Aussie Rules Footy

    - International Cricket



    PAL B Exclusives

    - Banana Prince

    - Beauty and the Beast

    - Devil World

    - Formula 1 Sensation

    - Hammerin Harry

    - Le Chevalier du Zodiac: Legend D'or

    - Mr. Gimmick

    - Over Horizon



    Then you have games that had name changes like Contra is called Probotector in PAL regions, Ninja Gaiden is Shadow Warrior, River City Ransom is Street Gangs, Heavy Shreddin is Snowboard Challenge, Flight of the Intruder is Phantom Air Mission...etc.



    There's also some minor name changes like Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles turning into Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles, or Ghosts n Goblins being called Ghost n Goblins.



    There's also art variants like The Hudson Hawk, or Adventure in the Magic Kingdom.



    There's also publisher variants like Track and Field.



    There's also small box variants of some of the black Box and other first party games.



    There's also 9 (or 10...don't have my list in front of me) rereleased games called the "Classic Series/Serie"



    There's also the rental company "Yapon" with officially licensed long box rental CIBs!



    So much fun PAL stuff out there   makes up for the half sized library I guess.
  • I bought the alladin games for 100 back in 2001 and they are still the same price in 2018.
  • I find it interesting that some Japanese versions are completely different than the rest of the world's versions.



    Here are a few that I know of.



    Tetris

    Star Wars

    Hebereke (Ufouria), sprites are completely different.

    Contra, many graphic changes.

    Doki Doki Panic (SMB2)

    Power Blazer (Power Blade)

    Maniac Mansion

    Airwolf
  • Famicom Rampart was way different from most US versions.
  • I have a list I'm using that has only 676 licensed, what do you think is the missing game? I had 675 since it only listed 1 punch out, I added MTPO to it. It has both indiana jones last crusade and both pac man games listed. Does NA have a list of only the licensed games? I know the unlicensed are mixed in on the collection area.
  • You should be able to set parameters to licensed, USA, and NES under the consoles menu on the upper left.
  • Originally posted by: Tulpa



    You should be able to set parameters to licensed, USA, and NES under the consoles menu on the upper left.





    Thanks for the tip, I found it... Miracle Piano was missing, also that licensed 30th anniversary of Megaman 2... got to get that..
  • Originally posted by: PowerPlayers



    PAL A & B Exclusives

    - Aladdin

    - Asterix

    - Championship Rally

    - Crackout

    - Dropzone

    - Elite

    - Kickoff

    - Konami Hyper Soccer

    - Lion King

    - Legend of Prince Valiant

    - Mario Bros. Classic Serie Edition

    - New Ghostbusters II

    - Noah's Ark

    - Parodius

    - Rackets & Rivals

    - Rainbow Islands: the Story of Bubble Bobble 2

    - Parasol Stars: Rainbow Islands II

    - Road Fighters

    - Rodland

    - Smurfs

    - Super Mario Bros. / Tetris / Nintendo World Cup

    - Super Turrican

    - Tecmo World Cup Soccer

    - Trolls in Crazyland

    - U-Four-Ia



    PAL A Exclusives

    - Aussie Rules Footy

    - International Cricket



    PAL B Exclusives

    - Banana Prince

    - Beauty and the Beast

    - Devil World

    - Formula 1 Sensation

    - Hammerin Harry

    - Le Chevalier du Zodiac: Legend D'or

    - Mr. Gimmick

    - Over Horizon



    kind of an annoying thing still, as a PAL only collector,

    you also have to deal with the games that were not PAL exclusives per se,

    games that WERE released in the USA, but for the PAL market

    they were either released as PAL B or PAL A, examples of these:



    - Mario Bros Original Arcade Classic (only came out in Europe as PAL A)

    - 10-Yard Fight (only came out in Europe as PAL A)



    there's also the issue of wanting the games with their original artwork labels,

    instead of getting the European or Spanish versions of a PAL B Donkey Kong Jr.

    or even PAL B Donkey Kong Jr. Math, you can also get the PAL A versions.

    but those are more expensive, and almost hardly show up anymore these days.
  • Originally posted by: PowerPlayers



    PAL A & B Exclusives

    - Aladdin

    - Asterix

    - Championship Rally

    - Crackout

    - Dropzone

    - Elite

    - Kickoff

    - Konami Hyper Soccer

    - Lion King

    - Legend of Prince Valiant

    - Mario Bros. Classic Serie Edition

    - New Ghostbusters II

    - Noah's Ark

    - Parodius

    - Rackets & Rivals

    - Rainbow Islands: the Story of Bubble Bobble 2

    - Parasol Stars: Rainbow Islands II

    - Road Fighters

    - Rodland

    - Smurfs

    - Super Mario Bros. / Tetris / Nintendo World Cup

    - Super Turrican

    - Tecmo World Cup Soccer

    - Trolls in Crazyland

    - U-Four-Ia



    PAL A Exclusives

    - Aussie Rules Footy

    - International Cricket



    PAL B Exclusives

    - Banana Prince

    - Beauty and the Beast

    - Devil World

    - Formula 1 Sensation

    - Hammerin Harry

    - Le Chevalier du Zodiac: Legend D'or

    - Mr. Gimmick

    - Over Horizon



    Then you have games that had name changes like Contra is called Probotector in PAL regions, Ninja Gaiden is Shadow Warrior, River City Ransom is Street Gangs, Heavy Shreddin is Snowboard Challenge, Flight of the Intruder is Phantom Air Mission...etc.



    There's also some minor name changes like Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles turning into Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles, or Ghosts n Goblins being called Ghost n Goblins.



    There's also art variants like The Hudson Hawk, or Adventure in the Magic Kingdom.



    There's also publisher variants like Track and Field.



    There's also small box variants of some of the black Box and other first party games.



    There's also 9 (or 10...don't have my list in front of me) rereleased games called the "Classic Series/Serie"



    There's also the rental company "Yapon" with officially licensed long box rental CIBs!



    So much fun PAL stuff out there   makes up for the half sized library I guess.

    Joseph, do you have a list of all the “name change” Pal A/B games? 



    Im working on it as a sub set, and its good to have it for reference. 



     
  • Originally posted by: MrWunderful

     
    Originally posted by: PowerPlayers



    PAL A & B Exclusives

    - Aladdin

    - Asterix

    - Championship Rally

    - Crackout

    - Dropzone

    - Elite

    - Kickoff

    - Konami Hyper Soccer

    - Lion King

    - Legend of Prince Valiant

    - Mario Bros. Classic Serie Edition

    - New Ghostbusters II

    - Noah's Ark

    - Parodius

    - Rackets & Rivals

    - Rainbow Islands: the Story of Bubble Bobble 2

    - Parasol Stars: Rainbow Islands II

    - Road Fighters

    - Rodland

    - Smurfs

    - Super Mario Bros. / Tetris / Nintendo World Cup

    - Super Turrican

    - Tecmo World Cup Soccer

    - Trolls in Crazyland

    - U-Four-Ia



    PAL A Exclusives

    - Aussie Rules Footy

    - International Cricket



    PAL B Exclusives

    - Banana Prince

    - Beauty and the Beast

    - Devil World

    - Formula 1 Sensation

    - Hammerin Harry

    - Le Chevalier du Zodiac: Legend D'or

    - Mr. Gimmick

    - Over Horizon



    Then you have games that had name changes like Contra is called Probotector in PAL regions, Ninja Gaiden is Shadow Warrior, River City Ransom is Street Gangs, Heavy Shreddin is Snowboard Challenge, Flight of the Intruder is Phantom Air Mission...etc.



    There's also some minor name changes like Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles turning into Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles, or Ghosts n Goblins being called Ghost n Goblins.



    There's also art variants like The Hudson Hawk, or Adventure in the Magic Kingdom.



    There's also publisher variants like Track and Field.



    There's also small box variants of some of the black Box and other first party games.



    There's also 9 (or 10...don't have my list in front of me) rereleased games called the "Classic Series/Serie"



    There's also the rental company "Yapon" with officially licensed long box rental CIBs!



    So much fun PAL stuff out there   makes up for the half sized library I guess.

    Joseph, do you have a list of all the “name change” Pal A/B games? 



    Im working on it as a sub set, and its good to have it for reference. 



     



    I sure do. I’ll exclude translations like “Tic Tac” (spelling?) for Chip n Dale since I never completed that list just yet. I’ll post it later when I get to my pc.

     
  • Originally posted by: PowerPlayers

     
    Originally posted by: MrWunderful

     
    Originally posted by: PowerPlayers



    PAL A & B Exclusives

    - Aladdin

    - Asterix

    - Championship Rally

    - Crackout

    - Dropzone

    - Elite

    - Kickoff

    - Konami Hyper Soccer

    - Lion King

    - Legend of Prince Valiant

    - Mario Bros. Classic Serie Edition

    - New Ghostbusters II

    - Noah's Ark

    - Parodius

    - Rackets & Rivals

    - Rainbow Islands: the Story of Bubble Bobble 2

    - Parasol Stars: Rainbow Islands II

    - Road Fighters

    - Rodland

    - Smurfs

    - Super Mario Bros. / Tetris / Nintendo World Cup

    - Super Turrican

    - Tecmo World Cup Soccer

    - Trolls in Crazyland

    - U-Four-Ia



    PAL A Exclusives

    - Aussie Rules Footy

    - International Cricket



    PAL B Exclusives

    - Banana Prince

    - Beauty and the Beast

    - Devil World

    - Formula 1 Sensation

    - Hammerin Harry

    - Le Chevalier du Zodiac: Legend D'or

    - Mr. Gimmick

    - Over Horizon



    Then you have games that had name changes like Contra is called Probotector in PAL regions, Ninja Gaiden is Shadow Warrior, River City Ransom is Street Gangs, Heavy Shreddin is Snowboard Challenge, Flight of the Intruder is Phantom Air Mission...etc.



    There's also some minor name changes like Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles turning into Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles, or Ghosts n Goblins being called Ghost n Goblins.



    There's also art variants like The Hudson Hawk, or Adventure in the Magic Kingdom.



    There's also publisher variants like Track and Field.



    There's also small box variants of some of the black Box and other first party games.



    There's also 9 (or 10...don't have my list in front of me) rereleased games called the "Classic Series/Serie"



    There's also the rental company "Yapon" with officially licensed long box rental CIBs!



    So much fun PAL stuff out there   makes up for the half sized library I guess.

    Joseph, do you have a list of all the “name change” Pal A/B games? 



    Im working on it as a sub set, and its good to have it for reference. 



     



    I sure do. I’ll exclude translations like “Tic Tac” (spelling?) for Chip n Dale since I never completed that list just yet. I’ll post it later when I get to my pc.

     

    Please make a new thread so its easy to find from search engines. Thank you. 



     
  • Originally posted by: MrWunderful



    Please make a new thread so its easy to find from search engines. Thank you. 

     



    Enjoy



    http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=5&threadid=187358



    Let me know if I missed anything.
  • You didn't specify retail released games so you also need to include:

    - Nintendo World Championship

    - Nintendo Campus Challenge
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