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  • these graphics looks great! I am going through and doing color corrections right now.
  • Hey, thanks. I know that I kind of messed with a few of the flying enemies in there, but I've been going through them all some more (hope you hadn't wasted any time recoloring these yet), I gathered all the flying enemies in the 8 Eyes rom, put them in order of appearance in the rom as well as possible replacements for each. Obviously there's no graphic editing for these enemies, just throwing this out as an idea as you had already done a few but didn't go as far as using more than 3 types for each.  Was wondering, would their behavior be edited to match how they act in the Castlevania games? Can't wait to see what the enemies and bosses look like with their appropriate colors.
  • check your messages, nice organization.
  • I played it again, color choices are great, Akmodan especially looks so much better now, the rest that were done look perfect as well. Some you didn't get to yet, Queen Medusa and Dhuron? Medusa should probably be along the same color palette as the Medusa Heads, or perhaps her colors from her giant head form in the first Castlevania. And Dhuron has purple clothing if I remember right, though if he stayed with the palette his is, this actually looks good for him too. Found one problem while playing for the sword-wielding skeleton, a missing tile. See attachments below.

    More enemies would be good. Cutting down on frames would make the most sense for extra space, particularly those that only use 2 frames anyway from the Castlevania games such as Medusa Heads, Flying Skulls, Ghosts and the non-blinking Floating Eyes, may even be able to cut down on walking frames since the the Castlevania games typically use less frames, at least for the regular enemies. I'm not sure what other enemies you'd be looking to have, but certainly all the classic ones have to be present, such as Dragon Skull Cannons, and if possible Skele-dragons. Also, being able to change the behavior of the enemies, I'm thinking the hopping slimes from Castlevania 2 as well as Fleamen would be good candidates in place of the Jawa-wannabe enemies. I also think having gargoyles in this game is a must, either the ones from Castlevania 2 or the flying bony ones from Castlevania 3, but none of the current enemies fit their size. The few large ghosts near the end of the Egypt stage that when you hit them they shrink into smaller versions, somehow I think the floating jellyfish from the forest level of Castlevania 3 would be good in its place, but it don't quite fit, but on the plus side, there's a lot of unnecessary frames for the smaller version of these ghosts which can free up some space for larger enemies or whatever. Oh, I like how you chose the eagles from Castlevania 2 in place of the large crow that I had put in for the birds in Africa, better choice, looks better too.

    I still want the Cyclops in the game, thinking the guy with the hammer in this game would be good for the Cyclops, perhaps ones such as him and the Werewolf could take more hits and act sort of as mini-bosses, also, have always liked the Minotaur from Symphony of the Night, as well as Slogra and Gaibon, but getting enemies or bosses of those sizes and odd shapes would be difficult, lots of tile rearranging. When I had first done the boss sprites that I had, when starting the one to take the place of the Spaniard fencer I had originally wanted Slogra, but due to his odd shape as well as not appearing in any of the NES games since I was trying to stick to those just on the 8-bit console I ended up going with Dhuron whom proved perfect due to being so similar to Enriquez Bartona, but also, this guy, along with the giant Axe Knight I made should also be regular enemies as they are in the Castlevania games. If possible I still really would like the Cyclops more as a boss, but again as is he doesn't quite work as well as the Axe Knight does for King Amin. Aside from creating what I've done for custom sprites, I do think for the most part much of the sprites wouldn't take much graphical editing, just programming. Let me know what else you may have in mind for enemies, or possibly bosses, at this point I'm not sure what else to do, I have ideas, but still need a good idea of what we have for space and how you want them to be.

  • Okay I fixed the tile and some more palettes, I sent you a copy.

    I'm trying to answer some of your earlier questions.

    Will there be a bottomless pits? you ask..

    What I plan on doing is making the level design play a lot like Vampire Killer (MSX). This is going to be essentially "Vampire Killer 2".

     I will remove the scrolling altogether, and each screen will have an exit up, down, left, and right.  This will allow players to explore the castle/levels more and will give me the ability to add twice as many enemies (by loading 1 screen half at a time, I won't have to share sprite space).  In some places however there may be bottomless pits, lava, water, spikes, etc.  I may even merge all or some of  the levels together to make larger areas to explore.

    Throughout the exploring you will gain items (Sheild, Wings, Boots, Familiars) that will help you gain access to shortcuts around the castle.

    If you want to help out with the graphics I will need a lot of custum graphics, all other classic graphics I can rip from the castlevania games.  If you choose to make some you need to think outside of the 8-eyes limitations.  I have the ability to make frames however large or small i need them, so really the sky is the limit, and it would be your chance to do some amazing work.  I like the idea about minibosses you find around the castle such as the cyclops.

    P.S. - how do you want your name in the title.



  • I answered your PM before seeing this message, okay you answered some of my questions. I'll start gathering all of the NES Castlevania sprites and then start brain-storming on possible enemies. I'm curious, if you're doing all this rebuilding of the game, why use 8 Eyes? What does it have in the programming that makes it the choice game to platform off of?

    Oh, another question, the bosses that I created I had originally made because they were the best choices to fit within the existing 8 Eyes boss tiles and animations due to my limitations I was forced to stick with using artistic skill limited around that, are these bosses all fine for you, or are there some other boss that you'd really like, prefer to have instead of one of those I had done?
  • Okay, going over all of the enemies and bosses in the Castlevania series, here are all of my current ideas.

    Bosses (mostly sticking to the classic ones, don't really want to go overboard with some oddball choices):

    Dhuron (may end up changing him to something else and using him as a regular enemy instead)

    Grim Reaper (definitely keeping him, and in the walking form, too many floating versions of him in the series, going to stay with what inspired this version, the one from the original Dracula X game, but may go back and fix a few things, give him a better looking jump animation, will throw sickles at you, maybe even use flying skulls)

    Frank & Igor (going to take out a frame or two of walking animations for Igor, adding in another chopping frame which I already have available, this guy may both rush you chopping his axe as well as jump, Frank I'm not sure about yet, but regardless mostly likely will throw something at you)

    Medusa (while her general look is going to remain the same, I'm going to go back and do her as I really want to, add some more tail to her)

    Axe Knight Lord (not sure about this guy yet, he may end up as a different boss and just be a regular enemy)

    Akmodan (need to add more detail, probably make him skinnier, he's too buff for a mummy)

    Skull Knight (perfect as is but may simplify to free up some tiles for other enemies)

    Dracula (?)

    Mini-bosses (must be killed to move on in the level):

    Arachne (from the later Castlevania games, but I thought something like her would be perfect for this game, walks back and forth, maybe climbs across the ceiling too, possibly throws spiders and/or spiderwebs)

    Cyclops and/or Minotaur (stalks back and forth, uses hammer like his Castlevania 3 version, if I use a minotaur can't see him being much different, not sure what to do with either of these yet)

    Doppleganger (obviously an evil version of Simon, but I've been thinking something involving mirrors)

    Fishman (a larger version of the fishman enemy, will most likely shoot out a jet of water as well as jumping in and out of the water in his chamber)

    Gargoyle (something alone the lines of the Leviathan boss in Castlevania 3, hovers, shoots fireball, probably will turn to stone as a means of defense)

    Skeledragon (classic mini-boss, attached to wall, waving up and down, shoots fireballs, can't think of anything new for it at the time)

    Two-headed Monster (not sure what exactly I'd like it to look like, maybe I'll just stick with the Castlevania 2 look but beef him up a bit, and he'll continue to shoot fireballs, two at a time while moving quickly back and forth)

    Werewolf (werewolf pack leader, paces back and forth, claws at you, also need to add a jump ability to him, this guy needs to not only be strong but somewhat agile as well)

    Enemies (again, as with bosses, trying to stick with the classics and ones that I feel relate well with the horror background, trying to stay away from all the magical and fairy type enemies of the later games):

    Axe Knight
    Bat
    Bone Pillar (shoots fireballs in both directions, non-moving, as well as possibly a walking variety of bone pillar)
    Crow
    Dhuron
    Fireman
    Fishman
    Fleaman
    Floating Eye
    Flying Skull
    Ghost
    Giant Spider
    Giant Frog
    Giant Leech (may latch onto Simon and suck life until shaken off)
    Harpy
    Man-Eating Plant
    Marionette
    Medusa Head
    Mudman
    Owl
    Skeleton (bone throwing and non-bone throwing)
    Skeleton (Whip Skeleton)
    Skeleton (Bone Scimitar)
    Slime
    Spear Knight
    Vulture (in place of the classically used Eagle, I've always thought this series needed vultures instead of eagles)
    Werewolf
    Wolf/Panther/or Hellhound (don't want too many similar enemies, but while wolves are classic horror, the panther has been used more for the Castlevania series, not sure yet)
    Zombie (thinking of having both male and female ones, maybe even children zombies)

    Let me know what you think, if there's anything I should add, ideas for existing ones, or ones that you don't think should be in there.
  • These are things that are on my list to do.

    * Fix Flinching
    * Make shield defect projectiles.
    * Fix familiar programming
    * Clear out sub-weapon GFX from player banks
    * Add more familiars graphics
    * Add Jump Wing graphic and to the player bank ( for simon to have on his back)
    * Add familiars

    * Remove all enemy data frames and put them in order by scratch, according to the new graphics banks (takes massive amounts of pre-planning)
    * Add Sub-weapons to the enemy banks (2 classic and 1 specialty sub-weapons)

    Classic Subweapons: Dagger, Cross, Axe, Hoy Water, Stop Watch, Bible

    Special Weapons: sicle, black cat, garlic,  medusa head, whatever..)

    * Add Candles, and Special Candles to the enemy banks (torches, lanterns, bookcases, chandeliers)
    * Add Coins, Money bags, Treasure (Perhaps make a money/store system)
    * Add Invincibility crystal, Ring, Whip Upgrade (other power, up items)
    * Add life up items to the enemy banks (icecream, egg, coffee, meat, red crystals)
    * Add new enemy sprite frames

    * Add new enemy behaviors
    * Program Special Ability select menu (choose from: Sheild, Wings, Boots, Candle)

    * Remove Scrolling
    * Add level change when leaving the screen from the right or left

    * Remove all level data
    * Rebuild level walls, floors, and platforms from a new design
     * Draw level backgrounds and atmosphere
    * Add enemy placement

    * Redo the music
    * Redo the bosses
    * Maybe add another character
    * Add an ending

  • Wow. Well, I'll see what I can do on my part. I'll try working on a few of the enemies through the night.
  • Welcome, The hack looks good so far, can't wait to see what you do with it.
  • Update:

    New Werewolf walking animation:

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    Been working on this one off and on through the night and afternoon today, a custom version of the fishman, walking animation as well as spitting:

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    Let me know what you think, if you like 'em, I'll continue to work on them, still gotta do a jumping frame for each as well as try to revise the attack animation for the werewolf.

  • I think it looks great, very doable.  I like how they look like the original graphic style but with added detail and frames.  This way when we bring in straight gfx rips (like fleaman) they will fit in with your graphics.
    On to the list with comments:

    Axe Knight
    * Axe knight,  even a Disc Knight that shares most of the same graphics)
    Bat
    * Red ones fly from off the screen at you, Blue hang from ceilings and attack when triggered
    Bone Pillar (shoots fireballs in both directions, non-moving, as well as possibly a walking variety of bone pillar)
    * mm, I think the stationary one only and save the frames for another enemy in the bank. It's one of the few enemies that takes up hardly any room.
    Crow
    * Sits on a perch, then attacks, I like the idea of a swarm of these when you walk into a room.
    Dhuron
    * Classic CV3 but with an alternate attack I'm thinking, shame though cause I like your big one a lot.
    Fireman
    Fishman
    * Your fishman so far is great. I see yellow ones, green ones, red ones image
    Fleaman
    * Fleaman, then Red Rippers that use the same graphics and throw red daggers at you. (possible special sub-weapon he drops)
    Floating Eye
    * Yes maybe even a rolling eye from the GameBoy games.
    Flying Skull
    Ghost
    * I want to bring the ghosts back from CV1 maybe as a familiar or an enemy
    Giant Spider
    * maybe even an arachnid lady
    Giant Frog
    * love the frogs, I considered a frog familiar even.
    Giant Leech (may latch onto Simon and suck life until shaken off)
    * this is possible (add the leaches from CV2 but have them stick love it)
    Harpy
    * thought the cv2 graphics could be improved.
    Man-Eating Plant
    * are these the same ones that you have in there now?
    Marionette
    * Like the idea once defeated they might drop the doll subweapon
    Medusa Head
    * The ones I ripped from Vampire Killer I like
    Mudman
    Owl
    Skeleton (bone throwing and non-bone throwing)
    Skeleton (Whip Skeleton)
    Skeleton (Bone Scimitar)
    * always need these, maybe get rid of the whip and sword and come up with unique skels
    * some Skels I considered were Farmer skel (drops garlic SubW), Archer skel, head chasing Yorick)
    Slime
    * Slime will be in there but I ripped their graphics from Vampire Killer, in that game they would fall out of candles randomly, i think I will incorporate them that way.
    Spear Knight
    * Yes these but also some knights with original weapons
    Vulture (in place of the classically used Eagle, I've always thought this series needed vultures instead of eagles)
    * Sure, I also want to paint pictures with enemies, like have the vultures eating some bones before they attack you.
    Werewolf
    * Already think yours is great, maybe give him a rare tough fight appearance
    Wolf/Panther/or Hellhound (don't want too many similar enemies, but while wolves are classic horror, the panther has been used more for the Castlevania series, not sure yet)
    Zombie (thinking of having both male and female ones, maybe even children zombies)
    * yes zombies can be back in full force love this idea.

    Other enemies.

    Farmer Skels
    Succubus - blows heart kisses at you
    Ghoul - from CV1
    Treeman - other tall enemies like Iron Golem that are one room battles
    poltergeist aka Flying books- use these in a library scene
    Mummies
    Giant Skulls
    Crypt Keepers - lantern weilding

    I can't think of any right now, but I would like to see some enemies from Symphony brought into this mixed in with classic ones from Vampire killer/Castlevania






  • do you have any ideas yet about redoing Simon? that is something you could replace now.
  • Glad you like the werewolf and fishman. And if you like the big Dhuron, then we'll keep 'im, I like him too. Really the only one I'm questionable about is the Axe Knight, but I could probably redesign him further to give him more character, make him stand out more as a boss, gotta think of a good emblem to put on his shield for one thing, my whole thought with using him originally came from Sir Grakul from Super Castlevania IV, but being as I'm not so limited anymore, I could most certainly change him more to my complete satisfaction. And your ideas all sound good too. Most likely the next one I'll be working on is the vulture, probably some corpse tiles as well for them to perch on while they peck at and eat the remains before you get close enough for them to decide that fresh meat is better.

    I haven't really given much thought to Simon, but it all depends on when this game takes place, I'd always wanted to see an older Simon with a little bit of a beard, but it may take away from what people are familiar with seeing, and I've always loved his Castlevania 2 outfit. 'Shrugs', I dunno, my main focus has always been on the enemies and worry about what the hero looks like later.
  • I should play through Castlevania IV, I have it on the wii and should check it out. This hack really started about a year ago after downloading symphony of the night off Xbox live and playing it for the first time. Before that I've played through about every Castlevania game that came out on the GBA and NDS.



    I had the same idea of doing an older Simon as well. One with a white beard, perhaps a crown and a cape. Maybe make this the story of his death.
  • I was thinking more viking  or barbaric like, like a character out of The 13th Warrior movie, kind fits how he looks on the cover art of Castlevania 1 and 2, Simon is just a wandering vampire slayer, don't think the royalty look suits him. As for hair color, I still picture it blonde, just longer and hair on his face, just a several years or more later from Castlevania 2, but again, this wouldn't show as well with the in-game sprites, there's not a lot of room for this kind of detail.
  • Yes I like this suit as well, but since Simon is different in every castlevania game, it would make since to give him some unique detail. I'll leave it up to you for the simple reason that what I have planned to do as far as programming is going to take me over a year in my estimation, and I am willing to give all duties of storyline and graphics to someone willing to take it on.
  • I don't know about storyline, was just throwing some ideas out there. Only thing I really care about is that the game plays well, that's all I care about when playing a game, I jump into the action and enjoy the hell out of it, if there's a story I may read through it one time but after that I tend to skip it, don't have time to talk, I'm there to kill monsters.
  • Story line in the since of where the character is in the timeline and who you are battling is what this story will consist of. There may be side stories about the familiars you encounter, perhaps Alucard is helping you this whole time without showing you his true form, and such. But the idea with this hack is also to have a lot of RPG elements like CV2, but without stopping the action. For instance you don't have to talk to villagers, you don't have to shop for all your items. All your items are for the most part gained by killing the correct monster, and randomly through a rarity algorithm.
  • I've been thinking this over the past couple days, while this is an exciting thing, and certainly I would've loved to been a part of it, I'm really not sure that I could deliver, and what I'm worried about is that I'll not only disappoint you, but waste your time as well. Sure a year is a long time to come up with stuff, but for me, this stuff comes and goes when it wants, maybe its because I've been feeling really shitty for the past few days, maybe its just that I'm unstable (probably the later), I dunno, but regardless of what my problems are, I don't want you to rely solely on me for coming up with graphics for this, perhaps there's somebody better, someone who'll be able to keep up a level of consistency so that your project can be completed. I'd love to play it when its finished, but with me on board, I think I'll only hold you back longer. Sorry if I'd gotten your hopes up for something, don't know why I even bothered saying anything in the first place, guess I got a bit excited when I saw that someone else had similar ideas to mine, so like a dumb ass I had to share mine as well, guess I thought it'd inspire me to get back to that project, it did put a little spark there, but as with everything I do, it only lasts briefly, when it'll alight again, who the hell knows. But if you want to continue to use whatever graphics I've offered so far, they're your's to do with as you please, give me credit or not for them, up to you, don't matter to me anymore. Good luck on this, I'm sure this game'll turn out good regardless of what it ends up looking like.
  • Yes it was really exciting to have found someone who was working on a similar project. Even more so someone with your talent who was willing to lend graphics and such. This project has been off and on for me as well and there is always a big chance that I will never finish thus wasting your time, which is not what I would want. So don't feel you have let me down in any way shape or form. It was a really cool thing to have had that meeting happen and still is. So again like most of my projects this one too will be a solo one, that is how I have always worked and most of the time prefer to work, but I now have new inspiration and new ideas thanks to you. And you have a new fan of your artwork. So all is well.



    p.s. I'll let you know if I do something with your graphics, at the moment I am thinking I will leave them in for the last 8-eyes to Castlevania DEMO (giving you creds), then take them out once I start to truly convert this game into something that doesn't resemble 8-eyes at all.

  • Good to hear. I'm just going through a really tough point right now, I don't want any of my problems spilling over somehow and affecting other people just because I can't seem to get it together what I need to do with myself and my life. And really, while I enjoy doing sprites and such once in a while, I'm really not a big artist, sure I can sometimes do some decent stuff, but its never been anything that I could do all the time, and certainly not when need be. Just glad that I didn't affect your project negatively and that you weren't pissed about it.
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