I'm surprised to see discussion of any sort like this on NintendoAge being that these are some very intense political climates we live in. It would be very easy for a flamewar to break out from someone who is left or right or neither. I've never seen such sensitivity in the media in all the years I've been alive.
I'm surprised to see discussion of any sort like this on NintendoAge being that these are some very intense political climates we live in. It would be very easy for a flamewar to break out from someone who is left or right or neither. I've never seen such sensitivity in the media in all the years I've been alive.
Things tend to stay fairly rational here on the NA forum. People should take note of how the NA party handles civilized debate and acquire our skills for brinkmanship. This should have a wall poll vote just for good measure. I just want the third option to be cheap landmines that we have in stock placed on the ballot, hey I think it would be cheap and cost effective or if were going to spend trump type money, fire breathing alligators that wear bullet proof armor.
I'm surprised to see discussion of any sort like this on NintendoAge being that these are some very intense political climates we live in. It would be very easy for a flamewar to break out from someone who is left or right or neither. I've never seen such sensitivity in the media in all the years I've been alive.
Things tend to stay fairly rational here on the NA forum. People should take note of how the NA party handles civilized debate and acquire our skills for brinkmanship.
5 billion for border security is more then just the wall..unless there are some better ideas out there just give Trump the money this way the government can go on and people can get paid. Dems don't want to give Trump a victory on it for whatever reason, probably because it was one of the things he said he would fix while running for POTUS. I really can't understand when he wants to put America first, whats wrong with that?? When you have people starving and living on the streets, racism, and other problems still in this country. Fix that first before you want to help out other countries...generosity starts at home!!
5 billion for border security is more then just the wall..unless there are some better ideas out there just give Trump the money this way the government can go on and people can get paid. Dems don't want to give Trump a victory on it for whatever reason, probably because it was one of the things he said he would fix while running for POTUS. I really can't understand when he wants to put America first, whats wrong with that?? When you have people starving and living on the streets, racism, and other problems still in this country. Fix that first before you want to help out other countries...generosity starts at home!!
He doesnt want america first, he wants his ego stroked. And read your last 2 sentances, you answered your own question.
I'm working and not getting paid atm. Not ideal! If it goes another pay period, it's going to cause serious issues for a ton of people and start to drag on the economy. Hopefully it ends ASAP, this isn't some game for hundreds of thousands of people.
As someone that's spent a decade working in this sector, it really bothers me that the shutdown has gone on for so long.
I'm more annoyed at Mitch than anyone else. He could have easily drafted something with a veto-proof majority, but isn't willing to do so, even after doing so previously as a stunt in the lame-duck. The purse-strings are the legislature's responsibility. So far, the House has passed a budget. If the Senate doesn't like it, they should draft something and get to reconciliation, rather than sit on it, shrug, and wait for the peacocking between the Executive and the House to reach a fever pitch. The upper house is supposed to be the dignified wing of the whole process, but ol' turtle got vindictive post-Reid and has let the whole thing turn into a second House.
Once Trump builds his wall, I'm just going to watch liberals destroy themselves.
I can't wait for the shit show.
You contribute very little to this site and then come in to say you can’t wait to see people with political differences from yours suffer. That’s pathetic, man, and sums up quite well the state of our politics today in America.
Once Trump builds his wall, I'm just going to watch liberals destroy themselves.
I can't wait for the shit show.
You contribute very little to this site and then come in to say you can’t wait to see people with political differences from yours suffer. That’s pathetic, man, and sums up quite well the state of our politics today in America.
Todays “republicans” care far more about shitting on liberals than they do about whats best for the Country. It really is sad.
I care most about the economic/educational damage by the people than other (insignificant?) issues like drugs or terrorists. Immigration reform, workers green cards, daca, etc are all great ideas but not without dealing with the illegal inflow first or as the same package. Every president for decades has said the border needs more.
Once Trump builds his wall, I'm just going to watch liberals destroy themselves.
I can't wait for the shit show.
Oh they do that anyway...it's like they can't go five minutes without resorting to fake racism
That's like saying conservatives can't go five minutes without acting rashly out of fear that someone is gonna take their jobs or their guns or say something mean about Judeo Christian values or invent a birthergate/pizzagate/whateverisnextgate
As a moderate they're both horrible about that sort of thing. Especially nowadays
Does anybody think that we are partially at fault for all these South Americans trying to get asylum?
Yes I do think that, and thank you for the rest of what you said as well.
You could say that we caused a lot of problems down there in the past. But at what point do you get off the hook for past sins? Germany and Japan did evil things in the past but we don’t hold them to account for it today.
US undeniably made its impact firsthand on the way things are in South America today. But the people that were in office back then and made those decisions are not the people in office today. And why should US taxpayers have to pay to fix problems that idiot politicians made generations ago?
If South/Central American countries are truly sovereign, then they don’t need to depend on other countries. Independence is the foundation of sovereignty. As long as we don’t meddle in their politics they should be able to find a way to solve their own problems
Once Trump builds his wall, I'm just going to watch liberals destroy themselves.
I can't wait for the shit show.
You contribute very little to this site and then come in to say you can't wait to see people with political differences from yours suffer. That's pathetic, man, and sums up quite well the state of our politics today in America.
Todays "republicans" care far more about shitting on liberals than they do about whats best for the Country. It really is sad.
Seriously.
If the reason you are supporting this administration is that they're hurting the people that you disagree with, that is an utterly horrible way to view the world.
I feel both sides are to blame. He's being a bit bratty about it with the shut down to the extreme it is being taken as I've had family affected by one in the past in the early 20 teens. The thing is, the dems won the house but those who got in basically ran on this idea of not having any good policy or something wise to do other than fuck trump, and that's just as much a vile and rotten tantrum to. The sick thing is, they're all going on record (those who have been around a decade or more) how Trump is evil, the wall is anti-immigrant, anti-humanitarian, anti-American whatever you get it. Yet you can find twitter posts, video clips, audio clips of every one of them being hypocrites and asking for in cases that level of funding or higher for the very thing. The wall would help, but it's not a silver bullet. It is a known people go over, they go under into shady office buildings with coyote tunnels, or they go around it by water. It has to be made better than a wall, also Mexico has to give them better reason not to bother, as we have to give them less of a reason to come up here too not sheltering and promoting it.
I think back on page one katchii though had it right, this is a gaming site, not really a place to start a political fight considering these days they get enough immature babies to ruin friendships over petty crap.
Once Trump builds his wall, I'm just going to watch liberals destroy themselves.
I can't wait for the shit show.
You contribute very little to this site and then come in to say you can’t wait to see people with political differences from yours suffer. That’s pathetic, man, and sums up quite well the state of our politics today in America.
I used to contribute a lot to the homebrew scene back when video game websites actually talked about video games instead of just politics and stupid gossip.
I just want to point out that we have over a dozen forum sections dedicated to video games, and there is one 'Everything Else' section where people choose to talk about the things they care about, whatever those are.
It is a very common viewpoint that discussing politics or religion, or anything controversial, is an extremely bad idea, especially on the internet. That is absolutely fine if that is your viewpoint. And as such, anyone here can choose NOT to post, or NOT to even read a thread discussing those issues. So it gets bumped up to the top of the 'latest posts' system? Is that such a big deal? If you don't want to deal with it, then just ignore it. If you look at the latest topics created, virtually every single one is about video games, with very few exceptions.
This is a -community-, and the user-base here over many years has expressed a desire to discuss both video game and non-video game related topics from time to time. The users also (for the most part) don't like it when they feel like they are being censored or not allowed to talk about certain subjects.
Rather than picking and choosing what topics people are allowed to talk about or not allowed, we have a general system of rules for forum conduct, that will be applied regardless of the topic. If people start breaking those rules, then moderators will get involved.
When something controversial comes up, maybe we should try not to encourage a self-fulfilling prophecy by constantly bringing up how the thread will go bad, or we shouldn't talk about it here, etc etc. Each individual person can choose how involved they want to be and how much they let this bother them.
Once Trump builds his wall, I'm just going to watch liberals destroy themselves.
I can't wait for the shit show.
You contribute very little to this site and then come in to say you can’t wait to see people with political differences from yours suffer. That’s pathetic, man, and sums up quite well the state of our politics today in America.
I used to contribute a lot to the homebrew scene back when video game websites actually talked about video games instead of just politics and stupid gossip.
All we talk about is politics and stupid gossip? Really? Lol
some people really are disconnected from reality. If you cant handle an adult discussion, dont show up and post. Its quite simple.
Does anybody think that we are partially at fault for all these South Americans trying to get asylum?
Yes I do think that, and thank you for the rest of what you said as well.
You could say that we caused a lot of problems down there in the past. But at what point do you get off the hook for past sins? Germany and Japan did evil things in the past but we don't hold them to account for it today.
US undeniably made its impact firsthand on the way things are in South America today. But the people that were in office back then and made those decisions are not the people in office today. And why should US taxpayers have to pay to fix problems that idiot politicians made generations ago?
If South/Central American countries are truly sovereign, then they don't need to depend on other countries. Independence is the foundation of sovereignty. As long as we don't meddle in their politics they should be able to find a way to solve their own problems
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People dont forget when we fool with their countries, these have long term effects. If you look at Iran, they used to be our best friends in the Middle East. We didn't have issues with that country until we replaced their leader Mossadeghs in 1953. We have never been cool with that country since. Look at Cuba. Why are we screwing with them? They have some of the best medical treatment in the world. They have amazing lung cancer treatment were they can heal people with late stage lung cancer like more than half of the time. But it hasn't been brought to America because of the trade embargo. That country is literally poor because we don't allow them to trade wih other people.. Look at Iraq, we have been there for going on 20 years. Why?
What you have to ask yourself is would our country be any different if we didn't steal the resources of other countries. Because that's what this is about. If you hear a politician ever say that we're going into a country because of "human rights abuses" stop listening to them right there, they're full of s$'s. Iran had a leader that wanted to nationalize its oil, cuba had a leader that wanted to nationalise its biggest industries.
What this does is kicks out foreign investors i.e. American investors and the country takes the profits. Good leaders use the resources for their people other countires don't. So it comes down to do you think your life would change if we didn't go into other countries. It's hard to say. For me personally, I think my life would be the same. I mean look at Iraq, a war for oil. We have been there for going on 20 years and I have not benefitted. It has cost trillions of dollars.
Our lives would directly change if our country invested in us. Infrastructure, health, exucation. Its simple, if people are educated, they can work in specialized jobs, and that grows the ecobomy. I you spend money in infrastructure, construction workers spend money and yhat grows the economy. If you pay for peoples medical bills, they dont go poor they get sick and are still functioning membera in the economy.
You wanna know what doesn't grow the economy tax cuta. Tax cuts have a low return in the economy all though its depenxent on how its structured of course. We just gave over a trillion it tax cuts for what? I didn't ses it in my paycheck. So what are we doing?
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I'm surprised to see discussion of any sort like this on NintendoAge being that these are some very intense political climates we live in. It would be very easy for a flamewar to break out from someone who is left or right or neither. I've never seen such sensitivity in the media in all the years I've been alive.
Things tend to stay fairly rational here on the NA forum. People should take note of how the NA party handles civilized debate and acquire our skills for brinkmanship. This should have a wall poll vote just for good measure. I just want the third option to be cheap landmines that we have in stock placed on the ballot, hey I think it would be cheap and cost effective or if were going to spend trump type money, fire breathing alligators that wear bullet proof armor.
I'm surprised to see discussion of any sort like this on NintendoAge being that these are some very intense political climates we live in. It would be very easy for a flamewar to break out from someone who is left or right or neither. I've never seen such sensitivity in the media in all the years I've been alive.
Things tend to stay fairly rational here on the NA forum. People should take note of how the NA party handles civilized debate and acquire our skills for brinkmanship.
Hey, don't jinx it!!
I can't wait for the shit show.
Things tend to stay fairly rational here on the NA forum.
Wild whippersnappers occasionally appear.
Once Trump builds his wall, I'm just going to watch liberals destroy themselves.
I can't wait for the shit show.
They may even create a bunch of threads, decrying how everyone is out to get them. Super weird.
5 billion for border security is more then just the wall..unless there are some better ideas out there just give Trump the money this way the government can go on and people can get paid. Dems don't want to give Trump a victory on it for whatever reason, probably because it was one of the things he said he would fix while running for POTUS. I really can't understand when he wants to put America first, whats wrong with that?? When you have people starving and living on the streets, racism, and other problems still in this country. Fix that first before you want to help out other countries...generosity starts at home!!
He doesnt want america first, he wants his ego stroked. And read your last 2 sentances, you answered your own question.
How much money does Trump have anyway?
Call his bankrupcy lawyers and ask.
I'm more annoyed at Mitch than anyone else. He could have easily drafted something with a veto-proof majority, but isn't willing to do so, even after doing so previously as a stunt in the lame-duck. The purse-strings are the legislature's responsibility. So far, the House has passed a budget. If the Senate doesn't like it, they should draft something and get to reconciliation, rather than sit on it, shrug, and wait for the peacocking between the Executive and the House to reach a fever pitch. The upper house is supposed to be the dignified wing of the whole process, but ol' turtle got vindictive post-Reid and has let the whole thing turn into a second House.
Once Trump builds his wall, I'm just going to watch liberals destroy themselves.
I can't wait for the shit show.
Oh they do that anyway...it's like they can't go five minutes without resorting to fake racism
Once Trump builds his wall, I'm just going to watch liberals destroy themselves.
I can't wait for the shit show.
You contribute very little to this site and then come in to say you can’t wait to see people with political differences from yours suffer. That’s pathetic, man, and sums up quite well the state of our politics today in America.
Once Trump builds his wall, I'm just going to watch liberals destroy themselves.
I can't wait for the shit show.
You contribute very little to this site and then come in to say you can’t wait to see people with political differences from yours suffer. That’s pathetic, man, and sums up quite well the state of our politics today in America.
Todays “republicans” care far more about shitting on liberals than they do about whats best for the Country. It really is sad.
Does anybody think that we are partially at fault for all these South Americans trying to get asylum?
Yes I do think that, and thank you for the rest of what you said as well.
Once Trump builds his wall, I'm just going to watch liberals destroy themselves.
I can't wait for the shit show.
Oh they do that anyway...it's like they can't go five minutes without resorting to fake racism
That's like saying conservatives can't go five minutes without acting rashly out of fear that someone is gonna take their jobs or their guns or say something mean about Judeo Christian values or invent a birthergate/pizzagate/whateverisnextgate
As a moderate they're both horrible about that sort of thing. Especially nowadays
Does anybody think that we are partially at fault for all these South Americans trying to get asylum?
Yes I do think that, and thank you for the rest of what you said as well.
You could say that we caused a lot of problems down there in the past. But at what point do you get off the hook for past sins? Germany and Japan did evil things in the past but we don’t hold them to account for it today.
US undeniably made its impact firsthand on the way things are in South America today. But the people that were in office back then and made those decisions are not the people in office today. And why should US taxpayers have to pay to fix problems that idiot politicians made generations ago?
If South/Central American countries are truly sovereign, then they don’t need to depend on other countries. Independence is the foundation of sovereignty. As long as we don’t meddle in their politics they should be able to find a way to solve their own problems
Once Trump builds his wall, I'm just going to watch liberals destroy themselves.
I can't wait for the shit show.
You contribute very little to this site and then come in to say you can't wait to see people with political differences from yours suffer. That's pathetic, man, and sums up quite well the state of our politics today in America.
Todays "republicans" care far more about shitting on liberals than they do about whats best for the Country. It really is sad.
Seriously.
If the reason you are supporting this administration is that they're hurting the people that you disagree with, that is an utterly horrible way to view the world.
I think back on page one katchii though had it right, this is a gaming site, not really a place to start a political fight considering these days they get enough immature babies to ruin friendships over petty crap.
Once Trump builds his wall, I'm just going to watch liberals destroy themselves.
I can't wait for the shit show.
Oh they do that anyway...it's like they can't go five minutes without resorting to fake racism
Or fake sexism.
Once Trump builds his wall, I'm just going to watch liberals destroy themselves.
I can't wait for the shit show.
You contribute very little to this site and then come in to say you can’t wait to see people with political differences from yours suffer. That’s pathetic, man, and sums up quite well the state of our politics today in America.
I used to contribute a lot to the homebrew scene back when video game websites actually talked about video games instead of just politics and stupid gossip.
It is a very common viewpoint that discussing politics or religion, or anything controversial, is an extremely bad idea, especially on the internet. That is absolutely fine if that is your viewpoint. And as such, anyone here can choose NOT to post, or NOT to even read a thread discussing those issues. So it gets bumped up to the top of the 'latest posts' system? Is that such a big deal? If you don't want to deal with it, then just ignore it. If you look at the latest topics created, virtually every single one is about video games, with very few exceptions.
This is a -community-, and the user-base here over many years has expressed a desire to discuss both video game and non-video game related topics from time to time. The users also (for the most part) don't like it when they feel like they are being censored or not allowed to talk about certain subjects.
Rather than picking and choosing what topics people are allowed to talk about or not allowed, we have a general system of rules for forum conduct, that will be applied regardless of the topic. If people start breaking those rules, then moderators will get involved.
When something controversial comes up, maybe we should try not to encourage a self-fulfilling prophecy by constantly bringing up how the thread will go bad, or we shouldn't talk about it here, etc etc. Each individual person can choose how involved they want to be and how much they let this bother them.
Once Trump builds his wall, I'm just going to watch liberals destroy themselves.
I can't wait for the shit show.
You contribute very little to this site and then come in to say you can’t wait to see people with political differences from yours suffer. That’s pathetic, man, and sums up quite well the state of our politics today in America.
I used to contribute a lot to the homebrew scene back when video game websites actually talked about video games instead of just politics and stupid gossip.
All we talk about is politics and stupid gossip? Really? Lol
some people really are disconnected from reality. If you cant handle an adult discussion, dont show up and post. Its quite simple.
This is a pretty tame discussion.
Does anybody think that we are partially at fault for all these South Americans trying to get asylum?
Yes I do think that, and thank you for the rest of what you said as well.
You could say that we caused a lot of problems down there in the past. But at what point do you get off the hook for past sins? Germany and Japan did evil things in the past but we don't hold them to account for it today.
US undeniably made its impact firsthand on the way things are in South America today. But the people that were in office back then and made those decisions are not the people in office today. And why should US taxpayers have to pay to fix problems that idiot politicians made generations ago?
If South/Central American countries are truly sovereign, then they don't need to depend on other countries. Independence is the foundation of sovereignty. As long as we don't meddle in their politics they should be able to find a way to solve their own problems
<br
People dont forget when we fool with their countries, these have long term effects. If you look at Iran, they used to be our best friends in the Middle East. We didn't have issues with that country until we replaced
their leader Mossadeghs in 1953. We have never been cool with that country since.
Look at Cuba. Why are we screwing with them? They have some of the best medical treatment in the world. They have amazing lung cancer treatment were they can heal people with late stage lung cancer like more than half of the time. But it hasn't been brought to America because of the trade embargo. That country is literally poor because we don't allow them to trade wih other people..
Look at Iraq, we have been there for going on 20 years. Why?
What you have to ask yourself is would our country be any different if we didn't steal the resources of other countries. Because that's what this is about. If you hear a politician ever say that we're going into a country because of "human rights abuses" stop listening to them right there, they're full of s$'s. Iran had a leader that wanted to nationalize its oil, cuba had a leader that wanted to nationalise its biggest industries.
What this does is kicks out foreign investors i.e. American investors and the country takes the profits. Good leaders use the resources for their people other countires don't. So it comes down to do you think your life would change if we didn't go into other countries. It's hard to say. For me personally, I think my life would be the same. I mean look at Iraq,
a war for oil. We have been there for going on 20 years and I have not benefitted. It has cost trillions of dollars.
Our lives would directly change if our country invested in us. Infrastructure, health, exucation. Its simple, if people are educated, they can work in specialized jobs, and that grows the ecobomy. I you spend money in infrastructure, construction workers spend money and yhat grows the economy. If you pay for peoples medical bills, they dont go poor they get sick and are still functioning membera in the economy.
You wanna know what doesn't grow the economy tax cuta. Tax cuts have a low return in the economy all though its depenxent on how its structured of course. We just gave over a trillion it tax cuts for what? I didn't ses it in my paycheck. So what are we doing?