I shipped 19 packages online using commercial plus pricing.
At the old rates it would have cost me $56.39 to ship at the new rates it cost $62.64 a $6.25 increase or 33 cents a package on average.
I'll keep doing the free shipping while everyone else jumps off the bandwagon and just power through it. The majority of my business is NY, OH, and PA which is closely zoned to us.
Day 2
Just shipped 13 packages $41.54 new rates and $36.97 old rates $4.57 increase or 35 cents a package. If I didnt make a mistake it would have been a 26 cents per package increase.
I used a box that pushed a package to over 12 ounces which gets the rates jammed up on you to the 16 oz level, that mistake cost me $1.19. The most important thing about these rates is to try and avoid going over 4, 8, or 12 whenever possible. 12.1 pays the same price as 15.9 so if you can cut a flap in a box or package a different way then you can save a bit of cash, especially if it is going coast to coast.
Just sold and shipped quite a few things last week, luck for me because the price increase wasn't on my radar. Probably holding off for the time being. Between ebay fees, PayPal fees, and increased shipping costs all encroaching on what I sell I think I'm going to stick with a $20-$25 minimum when selling anything goI g forward on NA or ebay
I used a box that pushed a package to over 12 ounces which gets the rates jammed up on you to the 16 oz level, that mistake cost me $1.19. The most important thing about these rates is to try and avoid going over 4, 8, or 12 whenever possible. 12.1 pays the same price as 15.9 so if you can cut a flap in a box or package a different way then you can save a bit of cash, especially if it is going coast to coast.
For some of you guys that ship tons of stuff, it makes me wonder if you've considered an industrial-grade die cutter (like a BossCut ~$1200) so that you can re-cut larger left-over cardboard boxes down to something with a more exact fit, since you might be able to make up the shipping weight savings (and packing material savings if you're buying bubble wrap and those big air filler-bags) in volume.
You could do the same thing by hand with a box cutter, but that is a big time suck.
I shipped 19 packages online using commercial plus pricing.
At the old rates it would have cost me $56.39 to ship at the new rates it cost $62.64 a $6.25 increase or 33 cents a package on average.
I'll keep doing the free shipping while everyone else jumps off the bandwagon and just power through it. The majority of my business is NY, OH, and PA which is closely zoned to us.
Day 2
Just shipped 13 packages $41.54 new rates and $36.97 old rates $4.57 increase or 35 cents a package. If I didnt make a mistake it would have been a 26 cents per package increase.
I used a box that pushed a package to over 12 ounces which gets the rates jammed up on you to the 16 oz level, that mistake cost me $1.19. The most important thing about these rates is to try and avoid going over 4, 8, or 12 whenever possible. 12.1 pays the same price as 15.9 so if you can cut a flap in a box or package a different way then you can save a bit of cash, especially if it is going coast to coast.
You're paying Ebay & Paypal on shipping cost as well. So that number is actually higher. You're basically giving away a free common game as of today and yesterday compared to Saturday. It's not that big of a deal if you deal with hundreds/thousands of items which I know you do compared to say people that barely ship stuff out all the time or deal with less than say 30 items.
I shipped 19 packages online using commercial plus pricing.
At the old rates it would have cost me $56.39 to ship at the new rates it cost $62.64 a $6.25 increase or 33 cents a package on average.
I'll keep doing the free shipping while everyone else jumps off the bandwagon and just power through it. The majority of my business is NY, OH, and PA which is closely zoned to us.
Day 2
Just shipped 13 packages $41.54 new rates and $36.97 old rates $4.57 increase or 35 cents a package. If I didnt make a mistake it would have been a 26 cents per package increase.
I used a box that pushed a package to over 12 ounces which gets the rates jammed up on you to the 16 oz level, that mistake cost me $1.19. The most important thing about these rates is to try and avoid going over 4, 8, or 12 whenever possible. 12.1 pays the same price as 15.9 so if you can cut a flap in a box or package a different way then you can save a bit of cash, especially if it is going coast to coast.
You're paying Ebay & Paypal on shipping cost as well. So that number is actually higher. You're basically giving away a free common game as of today and yesterday compared to Saturday. It's not that big of a deal if you deal with hundreds/thousands of items which I know you do compared to say people that barely ship stuff out all the time or deal with less than say 30 items.
Sure so it's another 12.05% on top of the increase so another nickel a package today. I get it I sell a lot and this has been slower volume for me this week end of the month usually is.
Pricing going forward I'll be adding another $1 to whatever I sell and will end up with a slightly better margin.
I used a box that pushed a package to over 12 ounces which gets the rates jammed up on you to the 16 oz level, that mistake cost me $1.19. The most important thing about these rates is to try and avoid going over 4, 8, or 12 whenever possible. 12.1 pays the same price as 15.9 so if you can cut a flap in a box or package a different way then you can save a bit of cash, especially if it is going coast to coast.
For some of you guys that ship tons of stuff, it makes me wonder if you've considered an industrial-grade die cutter (like a BossCut ~$1200) so that you can re-cut larger left-over cardboard boxes down to something with a more exact fit, since you might be able to make up the shipping weight savings (and packing material savings if you're buying bubble wrap and those big air filler-bags) in volume.
You could do the same thing by hand with a box cutter, but that is a big time suck.
Your money would be better invested buying (or designing) the exact size of box that would keep your shipments under the 8 or 12 oz threshold if you're doing that kind of volume.
I used a box that pushed a package to over 12 ounces which gets the rates jammed up on you to the 16 oz level, that mistake cost me $1.19. The most important thing about these rates is to try and avoid going over 4, 8, or 12 whenever possible. 12.1 pays the same price as 15.9 so if you can cut a flap in a box or package a different way then you can save a bit of cash, especially if it is going coast to coast.
For some of you guys that ship tons of stuff, it makes me wonder if you've considered an industrial-grade die cutter (like a BossCut ~$1200) so that you can re-cut larger left-over cardboard boxes down to something with a more exact fit, since you might be able to make up the shipping weight savings (and packing material savings if you're buying bubble wrap and those big air filler-bags) in volume.
You could do the same thing by hand with a box cutter, but that is a big time suck.
Your money would be better invested buying (or designing) the exact size of box that would keep your shipments under the 8 or 12 oz threshold if you're doing that kind of volume.
Sure, I don't know what amount of fresh cardboard these guys are sending out versus re-used packaging.
If it's mostly fresh, and they're doing a ton of volume, then finding a box manufacturer to just make the sizes you need at quantity could pay off.
Near-exact-fit boxes have extra savings in packing materials on top of the weight savings, too.
(and hell, take it a step further and design them as tab-fold cartons and you cut your packing tape use down to a couple of small pieces per box to secure the carton flaps)
Old pricing 31.65 new pricing 34.71 11 items shipped 3.43 increase when including PayPal and ebay fees paid on increased shipping 31 cents a package.
So far so good on the increases nothing crazy yet.
It's not likely to be crazy, either. The USPS isn't going to jacks the prices so high that they knock themselves out of the competition. I don't get the uproar about it. Businesses need to stay in business, and people need to get paid.
I've done the same for the last few years and it has helped keep things under a value increase that wasn't that great. I didn't know it now broke down to as easy as multiples of 4 now though, that is good to know. Typical small cart handheld games and other things tend to ship in the 1-4oz range so that works out.
Today after placing some stuff on ebay on Tuesday already sold and looking at the bite out of it I was guessing, I did figure right since I like to use flat rate on mine. I had to increase my shipping charge by 50 cents across the board for first class and it mostly worked. It cleared it as it did before the increase except one item I lost like almost 10 cents on as it was just over what I asked. Not really a huge deal but I'll just learn how to feel it out and adjust it as needed.
It's a shame the gov't won't do something about that entitlement package they setup the USPS with years ago because that's what really is driving a bit of this because they're putting out so much money to current and former employees it's just crushing and then we end up paying for it on these nutty increases.
Today was 10 packages and a 31 cent average increase. I did have to swap a Wii case for one of the ones with the recycle logo and the hole missing to get it back under 4 ounces that saved around a buck because it was going coast to coast
At some point i feel like Amazon or Google will come along with their own delivery service and blow everyone else out of the water. Kind of surprised they haven't tried already.
I shipped 19 packages online using commercial plus pricing.
At the old rates it would have cost me $56.39 to ship at the new rates it cost $62.64 a $6.25 increase or 33 cents a package on average.
I'll keep doing the free shipping while everyone else jumps off the bandwagon and just power through it. The majority of my business is NY, OH, and PA which is closely zoned to us.
Day 2
Just shipped 13 packages $41.54 new rates and $36.97 old rates $4.57 increase or 35 cents a package. If I didnt make a mistake it would have been a 26 cents per package increase.
I used a box that pushed a package to over 12 ounces which gets the rates jammed up on you to the 16 oz level, that mistake cost me $1.19. The most important thing about these rates is to try and avoid going over 4, 8, or 12 whenever possible. 12.1 pays the same price as 15.9 so if you can cut a flap in a box or package a different way then you can save a bit of cash, especially if it is going coast to coast.
Mind blown. Thank you for this knowledge Master Shippa
At some point i feel like Amazon or Google will come along with their own delivery service and blow everyone else out of the water. Kind of surprised they haven't tried already.
I think you are seriously underestimating how much industrial-engineering has gone into the existing services (USPS, UPS, Fedex) to make them as efficient and cost-effective as possible.
There isn't some big trove of waste at these shippers just waiting to be cut.
It's a shame the gov't won't do something about that entitlement package they setup the USPS with years ago because that's what really is driving a bit of this because they're putting out so much money to current and former employees it's just crushing and then we end up paying for it on these nutty increases.
That isn't quite the issue.
The issue revolves around needing to have future entitlements funded in an excessively conservative way.
I haven't noticed much of an increase at all in the packages I've shipped this week, but I'm a low volume guy.
This increases happen every single year though, just absorb it and deal with it. A year from now people will be complaining about the next hike so enjoy these prices while you can.
Side note, gas is extremely cheap now so everyone is able to afford this increase easily. If you're complaining about margins then track your gas expense to the post office over the last year and you'll see how that has gone down. Overall no one should be impacted by this that much. A few years ago (maybe 5 by now?) I already accepted I would not sell any individual items under $15 shipped. If you're still in that market and push enough volume for it to make sense then kudos, but I'm not squeezing that much.
A few years ago (maybe 5 by now?) I already accepted I would not sell any individual items under $15 shipped. If you're still in that market and push enough volume for it to make sense then kudos, but I'm not squeezing that much.
At least shipping cheap items, you're likely taking about stuff that can go in a bubble mailer and then just get dropped in any curb-side mailbox (rather than needing a trip to the post office).
At some point i feel like Amazon or Google will come along with their own delivery service and blow everyone else out of the water. Kind of surprised they haven't tried already.
I thought Amazon used private drivers in some parts of the country for their own items already?
That might be a way to test the waters on becoming fully involved.
At some point i feel like Amazon or Google will come along with their own delivery service and blow everyone else out of the water. Kind of surprised they haven't tried already.
Amazon is trying right now and they are having all sorts of issues.
At some point i feel like Amazon or Google will come along with their own delivery service and blow everyone else out of the water. Kind of surprised they haven't tried already.
I thought Amazon used private drivers in some parts of the country for their own items already?
That might be a way to test the waters on becoming fully involved.
Yes there are in my area 97% of amazon packages are delivered by independent contractors and they suck
At some point i feel like Amazon or Google will come along with their own delivery service and blow everyone else out of the water. Kind of surprised they haven't tried already.
I think you are seriously underestimating how much industrial-engineering has gone into the existing services (USPS, UPS, Fedex) to make them as efficient and cost-effective as possible.
There isn't some big trove of waste at these shippers just waiting to be cut.
Im sure I am. But with all of the things alot of these companies are coming up with Im sure they could find a way to pull something off.
At some point i feel like Amazon or Google will come along with their own delivery service and blow everyone else out of the water. Kind of surprised they haven't tried already.
I thought Amazon used private drivers in some parts of the country for their own items already?
That might be a way to test the waters on becoming fully involved.
Yes there are in my area 97% of amazon packages are delivered by independent contractors and they suck
I didn't realize that. I havn't had any of mine dropped off by independent contractors that i know of
At some point i feel like Amazon or Google will come along with their own delivery service and blow everyone else out of the water. Kind of surprised they haven't tried already.
I thought Amazon used private drivers in some parts of the country for their own items already?
That might be a way to test the waters on becoming fully involved.
Yes there are in my area 97% of amazon packages are delivered by independent contractors and they suck
Yeah, Amazon definitely has Amazon Prime branded delivery trucks for doing multiple drops per day, every day of the week.
I took his initial comment to be related to trying to take "private customer" market share from USPS and UPS/FEDEX, rather than handling some of their own order fulfillment.
That said, I would not be suprirsed AT ALL if Amazon is not operating that delivery service remotely profitably and are doing it as a loss-leader of some kind.
It's a shame the gov't won't do something about that entitlement package they setup the USPS with years ago because that's what really is driving a bit of this because they're putting out so much money to current and former employees it's just crushing and then we end up paying for it on these nutty increases.
Are you saying that paying people the money they're entitled to is something that is wrong and needs to be fixed?
Do you know a lot of people who work for free? Because I don't.
It's a shame the gov't won't do something about that entitlement package they setup the USPS with years ago because that's what really is driving a bit of this because they're putting out so much money to current and former employees it's just crushing and then we end up paying for it on these nutty increases.
Are you saying that paying people the money they're entitled to is something that is wrong and needs to be fixed?
Do you know a lot of people who work for free? Because I don't.
Those dirtbag peasants should be working for free, I want to be able to ship crap for next to nothing! But they are entitled!
It's a shame the gov't won't do something about that entitlement package they setup the USPS with years ago because that's what really is driving a bit of this because they're putting out so much money to current and former employees it's just crushing and then we end up paying for it on these nutty increases.
Are you saying that paying people the money they're entitled to is something that is wrong and needs to be fixed?
Do you know a lot of people who work for free? Because I don't.
The issue has to do with fully pre-funding future retiree healthcare benefit obligations in a way that no other enterprise has to do.
Also, they are forced to invest their pension funds in low-yield treasure bonds. (which probably no other pension program has to do, and guarantees underperformance as treasuries, on average, tend to track inflation and preserve capital only)
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Real life increases after shipping this morning.
I shipped 19 packages online using commercial plus pricing.
At the old rates it would have cost me $56.39 to ship at the new rates it cost $62.64 a $6.25 increase or 33 cents a package on average.
I'll keep doing the free shipping while everyone else jumps off the bandwagon and just power through it. The majority of my business is NY, OH, and PA which is closely zoned to us.
Day 2
Just shipped 13 packages $41.54 new rates and $36.97 old rates $4.57 increase or 35 cents a package. If I didnt make a mistake it would have been a 26 cents per package increase.
I used a box that pushed a package to over 12 ounces which gets the rates jammed up on you to the 16 oz level, that mistake cost me $1.19. The most important thing about these rates is to try and avoid going over 4, 8, or 12 whenever possible. 12.1 pays the same price as 15.9 so if you can cut a flap in a box or package a different way then you can save a bit of cash, especially if it is going coast to coast.
I will be listing over a 200 complete toys individually and will see if free shipping still worth it or not.
Whatcha got?!
^ Why I have called you shipping Yoda for the last decade.
Lol thank you sir
I used a box that pushed a package to over 12 ounces which gets the rates jammed up on you to the 16 oz level, that mistake cost me $1.19. The most important thing about these rates is to try and avoid going over 4, 8, or 12 whenever possible. 12.1 pays the same price as 15.9 so if you can cut a flap in a box or package a different way then you can save a bit of cash, especially if it is going coast to coast.
For some of you guys that ship tons of stuff, it makes me wonder if you've considered an industrial-grade die cutter (like a BossCut ~$1200) so that you can re-cut larger left-over cardboard boxes down to something with a more exact fit, since you might be able to make up the shipping weight savings (and packing material savings if you're buying bubble wrap and those big air filler-bags) in volume.
You could do the same thing by hand with a box cutter, but that is a big time suck.
Real life increases after shipping this morning.
I shipped 19 packages online using commercial plus pricing.
At the old rates it would have cost me $56.39 to ship at the new rates it cost $62.64 a $6.25 increase or 33 cents a package on average.
I'll keep doing the free shipping while everyone else jumps off the bandwagon and just power through it. The majority of my business is NY, OH, and PA which is closely zoned to us.
Day 2
Just shipped 13 packages $41.54 new rates and $36.97 old rates $4.57 increase or 35 cents a package. If I didnt make a mistake it would have been a 26 cents per package increase.
I used a box that pushed a package to over 12 ounces which gets the rates jammed up on you to the 16 oz level, that mistake cost me $1.19. The most important thing about these rates is to try and avoid going over 4, 8, or 12 whenever possible. 12.1 pays the same price as 15.9 so if you can cut a flap in a box or package a different way then you can save a bit of cash, especially if it is going coast to coast.
You're paying Ebay & Paypal on shipping cost as well. So that number is actually higher. You're basically giving away a free common game as of today and yesterday compared to Saturday. It's not that big of a deal if you deal with hundreds/thousands of items which I know you do compared to say people that barely ship stuff out all the time or deal with less than say 30 items.
Real life increases after shipping this morning.
I shipped 19 packages online using commercial plus pricing.
At the old rates it would have cost me $56.39 to ship at the new rates it cost $62.64 a $6.25 increase or 33 cents a package on average.
I'll keep doing the free shipping while everyone else jumps off the bandwagon and just power through it. The majority of my business is NY, OH, and PA which is closely zoned to us.
Day 2
Just shipped 13 packages $41.54 new rates and $36.97 old rates $4.57 increase or 35 cents a package. If I didnt make a mistake it would have been a 26 cents per package increase.
I used a box that pushed a package to over 12 ounces which gets the rates jammed up on you to the 16 oz level, that mistake cost me $1.19. The most important thing about these rates is to try and avoid going over 4, 8, or 12 whenever possible. 12.1 pays the same price as 15.9 so if you can cut a flap in a box or package a different way then you can save a bit of cash, especially if it is going coast to coast.
You're paying Ebay & Paypal on shipping cost as well. So that number is actually higher. You're basically giving away a free common game as of today and yesterday compared to Saturday. It's not that big of a deal if you deal with hundreds/thousands of items which I know you do compared to say people that barely ship stuff out all the time or deal with less than say 30 items.
Sure so it's another 12.05% on top of the increase so another nickel a package today. I get it I sell a lot and this has been slower volume for me this week end of the month usually is.
Pricing going forward I'll be adding another $1 to whatever I sell and will end up with a slightly better margin.
Old pricing 31.65 new pricing 34.71 11 items shipped 3.43 increase when including PayPal and ebay fees paid on increased shipping 31 cents a package.
So far so good on the increases nothing crazy yet.
I used a box that pushed a package to over 12 ounces which gets the rates jammed up on you to the 16 oz level, that mistake cost me $1.19. The most important thing about these rates is to try and avoid going over 4, 8, or 12 whenever possible. 12.1 pays the same price as 15.9 so if you can cut a flap in a box or package a different way then you can save a bit of cash, especially if it is going coast to coast.
For some of you guys that ship tons of stuff, it makes me wonder if you've considered an industrial-grade die cutter (like a BossCut ~$1200) so that you can re-cut larger left-over cardboard boxes down to something with a more exact fit, since you might be able to make up the shipping weight savings (and packing material savings if you're buying bubble wrap and those big air filler-bags) in volume.
You could do the same thing by hand with a box cutter, but that is a big time suck.
Your money would be better invested buying (or designing) the exact size of box that would keep your shipments under the 8 or 12 oz threshold if you're doing that kind of volume.
I used a box that pushed a package to over 12 ounces which gets the rates jammed up on you to the 16 oz level, that mistake cost me $1.19. The most important thing about these rates is to try and avoid going over 4, 8, or 12 whenever possible. 12.1 pays the same price as 15.9 so if you can cut a flap in a box or package a different way then you can save a bit of cash, especially if it is going coast to coast.
For some of you guys that ship tons of stuff, it makes me wonder if you've considered an industrial-grade die cutter (like a BossCut ~$1200) so that you can re-cut larger left-over cardboard boxes down to something with a more exact fit, since you might be able to make up the shipping weight savings (and packing material savings if you're buying bubble wrap and those big air filler-bags) in volume.
You could do the same thing by hand with a box cutter, but that is a big time suck.
Your money would be better invested buying (or designing) the exact size of box that would keep your shipments under the 8 or 12 oz threshold if you're doing that kind of volume.
Sure, I don't know what amount of fresh cardboard these guys are sending out versus re-used packaging.
If it's mostly fresh, and they're doing a ton of volume, then finding a box manufacturer to just make the sizes you need at quantity could pay off.
Near-exact-fit boxes have extra savings in packing materials on top of the weight savings, too.
(and hell, take it a step further and design them as tab-fold cartons and you cut your packing tape use down to a couple of small pieces per box to secure the carton flaps)
Originally posted by: pats1717
Day 3
Old pricing 31.65 new pricing 34.71 11 items shipped 3.43 increase when including PayPal and ebay fees paid on increased shipping 31 cents a package.
So far so good on the increases nothing crazy yet.
It's not likely to be crazy, either. The USPS isn't going to jacks the prices so high that they knock themselves out of the competition. I don't get the uproar about it. Businesses need to stay in business, and people need to get paid.
I've done the same for the last few years and it has helped keep things under a value increase that wasn't that great. I didn't know it now broke down to as easy as multiples of 4 now though, that is good to know. Typical small cart handheld games and other things tend to ship in the 1-4oz range so that works out.
Today after placing some stuff on ebay on Tuesday already sold and looking at the bite out of it I was guessing, I did figure right since I like to use flat rate on mine. I had to increase my shipping charge by 50 cents across the board for first class and it mostly worked. It cleared it as it did before the increase except one item I lost like almost 10 cents on as it was just over what I asked. Not really a huge deal but I'll just learn how to feel it out and adjust it as needed.
It's a shame the gov't won't do something about that entitlement package they setup the USPS with years ago because that's what really is driving a bit of this because they're putting out so much money to current and former employees it's just crushing and then we end up paying for it on these nutty increases.
Real life increases after shipping this morning.
I shipped 19 packages online using commercial plus pricing.
At the old rates it would have cost me $56.39 to ship at the new rates it cost $62.64 a $6.25 increase or 33 cents a package on average.
I'll keep doing the free shipping while everyone else jumps off the bandwagon and just power through it. The majority of my business is NY, OH, and PA which is closely zoned to us.
Day 2
Just shipped 13 packages $41.54 new rates and $36.97 old rates $4.57 increase or 35 cents a package. If I didnt make a mistake it would have been a 26 cents per package increase.
I used a box that pushed a package to over 12 ounces which gets the rates jammed up on you to the 16 oz level, that mistake cost me $1.19. The most important thing about these rates is to try and avoid going over 4, 8, or 12 whenever possible. 12.1 pays the same price as 15.9 so if you can cut a flap in a box or package a different way then you can save a bit of cash, especially if it is going coast to coast.
Mind blown. Thank you for this knowledge Master Shippa
At some point i feel like Amazon or Google will come along with their own delivery service and blow everyone else out of the water. Kind of surprised they haven't tried already.
I think you are seriously underestimating how much industrial-engineering has gone into the existing services (USPS, UPS, Fedex) to make them as efficient and cost-effective as possible.
There isn't some big trove of waste at these shippers just waiting to be cut.
It's a shame the gov't won't do something about that entitlement package they setup the USPS with years ago because that's what really is driving a bit of this because they're putting out so much money to current and former employees it's just crushing and then we end up paying for it on these nutty increases.
That isn't quite the issue.
The issue revolves around needing to have future entitlements funded in an excessively conservative way.
(not the size of the entitlements themselves)
This increases happen every single year though, just absorb it and deal with it. A year from now people will be complaining about the next hike so enjoy these prices while you can.
Side note, gas is extremely cheap now so everyone is able to afford this increase easily. If you're complaining about margins then track your gas expense to the post office over the last year and you'll see how that has gone down. Overall no one should be impacted by this that much. A few years ago (maybe 5 by now?) I already accepted I would not sell any individual items under $15 shipped. If you're still in that market and push enough volume for it to make sense then kudos, but I'm not squeezing that much.
A few years ago (maybe 5 by now?) I already accepted I would not sell any individual items under $15 shipped. If you're still in that market and push enough volume for it to make sense then kudos, but I'm not squeezing that much.
At least shipping cheap items, you're likely taking about stuff that can go in a bubble mailer and then just get dropped in any curb-side mailbox (rather than needing a trip to the post office).
At some point i feel like Amazon or Google will come along with their own delivery service and blow everyone else out of the water. Kind of surprised they haven't tried already.
I thought Amazon used private drivers in some parts of the country for their own items already?
That might be a way to test the waters on becoming fully involved.
At some point i feel like Amazon or Google will come along with their own delivery service and blow everyone else out of the water. Kind of surprised they haven't tried already.
Amazon is trying right now and they are having all sorts of issues.
At some point i feel like Amazon or Google will come along with their own delivery service and blow everyone else out of the water. Kind of surprised they haven't tried already.
I thought Amazon used private drivers in some parts of the country for their own items already?
That might be a way to test the waters on becoming fully involved.
Yes there are in my area 97% of amazon packages are delivered by independent contractors and they suck
At some point i feel like Amazon or Google will come along with their own delivery service and blow everyone else out of the water. Kind of surprised they haven't tried already.
I think you are seriously underestimating how much industrial-engineering has gone into the existing services (USPS, UPS, Fedex) to make them as efficient and cost-effective as possible.
There isn't some big trove of waste at these shippers just waiting to be cut.
Im sure I am. But with all of the things alot of these companies are coming up with Im sure they could find a way to pull something off.
At some point i feel like Amazon or Google will come along with their own delivery service and blow everyone else out of the water. Kind of surprised they haven't tried already.
I thought Amazon used private drivers in some parts of the country for their own items already?
That might be a way to test the waters on becoming fully involved.
Yes there are in my area 97% of amazon packages are delivered by independent contractors and they suck
I didn't realize that. I havn't had any of mine dropped off by independent contractors that i know of
At some point i feel like Amazon or Google will come along with their own delivery service and blow everyone else out of the water. Kind of surprised they haven't tried already.
I thought Amazon used private drivers in some parts of the country for their own items already?
That might be a way to test the waters on becoming fully involved.
Yes there are in my area 97% of amazon packages are delivered by independent contractors and they suck
Yeah, Amazon definitely has Amazon Prime branded delivery trucks for doing multiple drops per day, every day of the week.
I took his initial comment to be related to trying to take "private customer" market share from USPS and UPS/FEDEX, rather than handling some of their own order fulfillment.
That said, I would not be suprirsed AT ALL if Amazon is not operating that delivery service remotely profitably and are doing it as a loss-leader of some kind.
It's a shame the gov't won't do something about that entitlement package they setup the USPS with years ago because that's what really is driving a bit of this because they're putting out so much money to current and former employees it's just crushing and then we end up paying for it on these nutty increases.
Are you saying that paying people the money they're entitled to is something that is wrong and needs to be fixed?
Do you know a lot of people who work for free? Because I don't.
It's a shame the gov't won't do something about that entitlement package they setup the USPS with years ago because that's what really is driving a bit of this because they're putting out so much money to current and former employees it's just crushing and then we end up paying for it on these nutty increases.
Are you saying that paying people the money they're entitled to is something that is wrong and needs to be fixed?
Do you know a lot of people who work for free? Because I don't.
Those dirtbag peasants should be working for free, I want to be able to ship crap for next to nothing! But they are entitled!
It's a shame the gov't won't do something about that entitlement package they setup the USPS with years ago because that's what really is driving a bit of this because they're putting out so much money to current and former employees it's just crushing and then we end up paying for it on these nutty increases.
Are you saying that paying people the money they're entitled to is something that is wrong and needs to be fixed?
Do you know a lot of people who work for free? Because I don't.
He is mis-stating the nature of the problem.
https://www.nalc.org/news/nalc-updates/its-the-prefunding-stupid
The issue has to do with fully pre-funding future retiree healthcare benefit obligations in a way that no other enterprise has to do.
Also, they are forced to invest their pension funds in low-yield treasure bonds. (which probably no other pension program has to do, and guarantees underperformance as treasuries, on average, tend to track inflation and preserve capital only)