Debating getting a One-of-One (only one known to exist) Video Game Graded

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  • Its just........ 900 locations. There's got to be some out there.



    However, it would seem to be ( I know nothing about these) rare and that combined with it being Pokemon makes it pretty cool and probably better than something that's much rarer but for DS Petz.
  • Originally posted by: GPX

    Originally posted by: Yoshimoshi



    yeah I'm not entirely sure, but I know that is the only one of this cartridge that exists in private hands. The only sale data of the cartridge, is from when I bought it, I know that doesn't mean that someone else would be willing to buy it for what I paid for it, just that if I listed it for $1000, someone can't also list it for like $100, well they could, but no one else has the cartridge



    like I know there are a lot of pokemon distribution cartridges on ebay right now, but not this exact one, no one else has it

    What price you pay, what price you think it can sell, and what price someone else is willing to offer can be all very different numbers. For a DS rarity you can assume though it would not compare to the prices of say, an N64, SNES, or NES rarity. 



    You keep saying "it's a one-of-a-kind known in private hands". How do you know this to be a fact? Was it promoted by Nintendo as the rarest DS Pokemon cart ever to be produced? What purpose does Nintendo have in producing just the one cart and no further supplies? I'm genuinely intrigued!



     





    I would not be surprised if someone offered $1000 for this in the next year or so. There are already some pretty pricey sealed DS games that go for $200-300+, and some other pokemon distribution carts that go for $500+. And those are all NOT one of a kinds.

    If someone really wants to add this to their distribution collection, they'll pay what it costs to get it.
  • Originally posted by: yukfou

     
     

    I would not be surprised if someone offered $1000 for this in the next year or so. There are already some pretty pricey sealed DS games that go for $200-300+, and some other pokemon distribution carts that go for $500+. And those are all NOT one of a kinds. If someone really wants to add this to their distribution collection, they'll pay what it costs to get it.



    But are they English-language, or Japanese?

     
  • Originally posted by: arch_8ngel

    Originally posted by: yukfou

     
     

    I would not be surprised if someone offered $1000 for this in the next year or so. There are already some pretty pricey sealed DS games that go for $200-300+, and some other pokemon distribution carts that go for $500+. And those are all NOT one of a kinds. If someone really wants to add this to their distribution collection, they'll pay what it costs to get it.



    But are they English-language, or Japanese?

     





    They're all English. From my understanding, there is no other Japanese Pokemon DS distribution cart out there in the wild. Japan had their carts under a much heavier lockdown than in the U.S and Europe. Imo, this makes his Japanese cart even more rare and valuable
  • Originally posted by: yukfou

     
    Originally posted by: arch_8ngel

     
    Originally posted by: yukfou

     
     

    I would not be surprised if someone offered $1000 for this in the next year or so. There are already some pretty pricey sealed DS games that go for $200-300+, and some other pokemon distribution carts that go for $500+. And those are all NOT one of a kinds. If someone really wants to add this to their distribution collection, they'll pay what it costs to get it.



    But are they English-language, or Japanese?

     







    They're all English. From my understanding, there is no other Japanese Pokemon DS distribution cart out there in the wild. Japan had their carts under a much heavier lockdown than in the U.S and Europe. Imo, this makes his Japanese cart even more rare and valuable



    To each his own... IMO it just makes it much harder to know how rare it actually is, while simultaneously making it useless to somebody that might actually want to use it.



    (I mean... there were at least 900 of them to begin with,  there is probably no way this is literally 1-of-1)
  • Never seen it before as I am sure others haven't so the claim of it being the only one is valid as there isn't any other one known publicly. It can be put up for sale at any amount, but only will be sold if someone is willing to pay for that amount. Since it is a Japanese cart, only way to find out is browsing Japan gaming/collector forums and ask around. There are many collectors who keep their collection private so that could be a factor on its rarity. Still, congrats on getting it! Such a cool piece as it is a distribution and would be tough to even find out considering it was probably found on a Japanese language site (right?). Never send it anywhere. Keep it safe and secured. I do have at least 2 not for resales that I have yet to find anyone else having it, so I understand your point of view on preserving it.
  • Originally posted by: arch_8ngel

    Originally posted by: yukfou

     
    Originally posted by: arch_8ngel

     
    Originally posted by: yukfou

     
     

    I would not be surprised if someone offered $1000 for this in the next year or so. There are already some pretty pricey sealed DS games that go for $200-300+, and some other pokemon distribution carts that go for $500+. And those are all NOT one of a kinds. If someone really wants to add this to their distribution collection, they'll pay what it costs to get it.



    But are they English-language, or Japanese?

     







    They're all English. From my understanding, there is no other Japanese Pokemon DS distribution cart out there in the wild. Japan had their carts under a much heavier lockdown than in the U.S and Europe. Imo, this makes his Japanese cart even more rare and valuable



    To each his own... IMO it just makes it much harder to know how rare it actually is, while simultaneously making it useless to somebody that might actually want to use it.



    (I mean... there were at least 900 of them to begin with,  there is probably no way this is literally 1-of-1)





    It probably isn't the only one but it is the only one available (right now). And like the OP said, most were destroyed. So there might be like 10 of these tops still floating around somewhere.

    Is a NWC cart any less rare just because we don't know how many are actually out there? Is it 74? 80? 100? (Yes I know 100 is technically less rare than 74, but you get my point. The game will still cost 15k+ if there are 74 or 100 of them)

    Regardless, this is a darn rare piece. I'm curious to hear the Pokemon distribution collectors' takes on it.
  • Originally posted by: yukfou

     
     







    It probably isn't the only one but it is the only one available (right now). And like the OP said, most were destroyed. So there might be like 10 of these tops still floating around somewhere. Is a NWC cart any less rare just because we don't know how many are actually out there? Is it 74? 80? 100? (Yes I know 100 is technically less rare than 74, but you get my point. The game will still cost 15k+ if there are 74 or 100 of them) Regardless, this is a darn rare piece. I'm curious to hear the Pokemon distribution collectors' takes on it.



    Are we really comparing a Pokemon distribution cartridge to the NWC?  





    Anyway, I don't want to dampen OP's excitement, because it is a neat item.



    But I think acting like a Japanese-language item, of any rarity, is "priceless" to US collectors seems a bit unrealistic.

     
  • Originally posted by: arch_8ngel

    Originally posted by: yukfou

     
     







    It probably isn't the only one but it is the only one available (right now). And like the OP said, most were destroyed. So there might be like 10 of these tops still floating around somewhere. Is a NWC cart any less rare just because we don't know how many are actually out there? Is it 74? 80? 100? (Yes I know 100 is technically less rare than 74, but you get my point. The game will still cost 15k+ if there are 74 or 100 of them) Regardless, this is a darn rare piece. I'm curious to hear the Pokemon distribution collectors' takes on it.



    Are we really comparing a Pokemon distribution cartridge to the NWC?  





    Anyway, I don't want to dampen OP's excitement, because it is a neat item.



    But I think acting like a Japanese-language item, of any rarity, is "priceless" to US collectors seems a bit unrealistic.

     





    Lol yes we are. They're both rare and that's about it lol.

    I don't think this is priceless. I just wouldn't be surprised if someone who's a Pokemon distribution cart collector paid/offered 1k for it in the next year or so. Pokemon collectors are out there in pretty good numbers after all.
  • One thing I can tell you, as someone who has personally sourced ds NFR carts, these can pop up in bulk at electronics recycling centers. I have personally seen a palitized box full of Pokémon distribution carts. It was mind blowing. It really challenged my ideas about their rarity. I'll be honest I just wish I would have had more cash when it happened.
  • Originally posted by: fcgamer

    Originally posted by: Yoshimoshi

    you have one of ones of officially licensed games that aren't worth much? Which ones?





    I agree here with dreamtr. You want an example? Pulse line F1 race on Famicom. Officially licensed, I own three of three copies known to exist. If I sold it though (which j won't) , I guess I'd be hard pressed to get $100.




    That's not true, I'd offer $101 if you pay shipping
  • Originally posted by: PuppyWaffles

     
    Originally posted by: fcgamer

     
    Originally posted by: Yoshimoshi



    you have one of ones of officially licensed games that aren't worth much? Which ones?







    I agree here with dreamtr. You want an example? Pulse line F1 race on Famicom. Officially licensed, I own three of three copies known to exist. If I sold it though (which j won't) , I guess I'd be hard pressed to get $100.







    That's not true, I'd offer $101 if you pay shipping
  • I'll offer about tree fiddy
  • If they make 5 of something and no one knows it exists therefore no demand then price gauging impossible just got to get offers. If they make 5,000 of something and 1 million people wants it then that's the gold. Being pokemon related though I would venture to say definitely makes this a special case because lots of collectors out there. If you sell it just put a crazy number on it and accept offers and go from there. All one has to do is look at ebay and see some items bring double or triple of the exact same item so there is no set value for anything, that includes video games, milk, and gas as well, and especially the dollar.
  • Originally posted by: empire



    What Pokemon are on it?





    Pikablu
  • Originally posted by: Beabull

    Originally posted by: empire



    What Pokemon are on it?





    Pikablu





    Milotic, Dragonite, and Salamence

    https://digiex.net/threads/pokemon-strongest-pokemon-jpn-distribution-nds-download-jpn.15582/
  • Originally posted by: yukfou

    Originally posted by: Beabull

    Originally posted by: empire



    What Pokemon are on it?





    Pikablu





    Milotic, Dragonite, and Salamence

    https://digiex.net/threads/pokemo...





    And missingno
  • Not to bump an old thread, but I think this is important. As a Pokemon Distribution collector I'd like to throw my 2 cents into the ring of fire going on here. I'd absolutely pay an obscene amount of money for this cartridge. It was claimed earlier in this thread that if YoshiMoshi threw it up on ebay for $1000 it'd sit there. It wouldn't, I'd buy it AFAP and I know a bunch of other Pokemon distribution collectors who would too.



    Buuttttttt... YoshiMoshi is not selling it.



    And everyone arguing over value is missing the point of this thread. YoshiMoshi is looking to have this graded/preserved further. Not argue about it's rarity.



    (With that being said, I'm going to argue further about it's rarity)



    It's obvious this cartridge is worth nothing to the average collector, anyone who thinks otherwise is just wrong. It's only worth something to the more... extreme collectors. Well there have been instances of a large quantity of supply being dropped for certain games (Sellers not knowing they have something of value, other countries having more supply then in the west, etc.), that will not happen for this cartridge. Japan was notoriously strict on collecting and destroying pokemon distribution cartridges after use. We are lucky that there still exist photos of a few japanese distribution cartridges. The fact that this cartridge leaked to a collector in the US is one in a million anyway. I often scour auction sites (both japanese and america) looking for similar distribution cartridges, and while the US ones may be plentiful on ebay, Japanese distribution cartridges are just not. Anywhere. May there be some in private collectors hands in Japan? Maybe. Hopefully. But if so, they are items that many collectors consider holy grails (probably in the truest sense of the term).



    Is it one-of-a-kind? IMO, I'd say no. We know more then 1 existed, we don't if they survived. Herein lies the difference between this cartridge and NWC cartridges. Anyone who ever handled an NWC cartridge likely had a moment with it that stuck with them, likely prompting them to save that cartridge (even if it was in a closet for 30 years not being used). And NWC cartridges were given away to be kept. Anyone who ever handled a japanese pokemon distribution cartridge was kept under closer surveillence and punished if the cartridge ever left the clutches of a nintendo representative tasked with destroying the cartridge completely. See how it may seem to collectors unlikely that we ever get a hold of any more of these?
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