Originally posted by: Every1whocountsluvsNedFlanders
Originally posted by: PowerPlayers
Originally posted by: DarkKobold
Holy derailment, can we go back to passive-aggressive attacks at this guy's collection?
Game collector? More like SHAME collector, am I right?
More like it's too bad he couldn't have used that money and done something good with it.
Really? I mean, we all spend money on what we want. Did you go to the bar this week? Maybe buy yourself some new skis? Did you play video games this week? That's time you could have spent at a soup kitchen giving meals to the homeless!
I mean, we all spend our time and money on things that make us happy. If amassing a giant collection of video games made him happy, didn't hurt anyone else, why judge it?
Originally posted by: Every1whocountsluvsNedFlanders
I don't even know how just blowing money can earn you a Guiness record.
If this thread has taught us one thing, it's that Guinness world records is nothing more than a self-promoting marketing machine, with zero authority on anything substantial. Their records are literally according to themselves, and bare no relation to anyone or anything else.
This may come as a shock to some. I remember I used to watch the Guinness world records TV show, and thinking I could never make it on there. Then I grew up, realised that Santa is a fraud and the Easter Bunny's on crack, and NOTHING feels special any more...
Originally posted by: Every1whocountsluvsNedFlanders
I don't even know how just blowing money can earn you a Guiness record.
If this thread has taught us one thing, it's that Guinness world records is nothing more than a self-promoting marketing machine, with zero authority on anything substantial. Their records are literally according to themselves, and bare no relation to anyone or anything else.
This may come as a shock to some. I remember I used to watch the Guinness world records TV show, and thinking I could never make it on there. Then I grew up, realised that Santa is a fraud and the Easter Bunny's on crack, and NOTHING feels special any more...
If this thread has taught us anything it's that a lot of folks here are judgemental as hell lol.
What kind of reality are we living in, really, where a video from a local news station about a dudes video game collection doesn't make us all go "Hey that's pretty neat" at the very least? Dunno why people feel the need to judge the guy or his collection. None of us here have personally audited it, nor to my knowledge met with him or chatted with him or anything. All we have to go on is an admittedly shoddily edited video from a pretty amateur looking local news station (who themselves obviously have no clue what they're looking at).
For all we know dude nerded out and did a long spiel about his cool old snes carts and they cut it for time or something.
Originally posted by: Every1whocountsluvsNedFlanders
I don't even know how just blowing money can earn you a Guiness record.
If this thread has taught us one thing, it's that Guinness world records is nothing more than a self-promoting marketing machine, with zero authority on anything substantial. Their records are literally according to themselves, and bare no relation to anyone or anything else. This may come as a shock to some. I remember I used to watch the Guinness world records TV show, and thinking I could never make it on there. Then I grew up, realised that Santa is a fraud and the Easter Bunny's on crack, and NOTHING feels special any more...
If this thread has taught us anything it's that a lot of folks here are judgemental as hell lol.
Unfortunately, I learned that far before this thread.
Originally posted by: Every1whocountsluvsNedFlanders
I don't even know how just blowing money can earn you a Guiness record.
If this thread has taught us one thing, it's that Guinness world records is nothing more than a self-promoting marketing machine, with zero authority on anything substantial. Their records are literally according to themselves, and bare no relation to anyone or anything else. This may come as a shock to some. I remember I used to watch the Guinness world records TV show, and thinking I could never make it on there. Then I grew up, realised that Santa is a fraud and the Easter Bunny's on crack, and NOTHING feels special any more...
If this thread has taught us anything it's that a lot of folks here are judgemental as hell lol. What kind of reality are we living in, really, where a video from a local news station about a dudes video game collection doesn't make us all go "Hey that's pretty neat" at the very least? Dunno why people feel the need to judge the guy or his collection. None of us here have personally audited it, nor to my knowledge met with him or chatted with him or anything. All we have to go on is an admittedly shoddily edited video from a pretty amateur looking local news station (who themselves obviously have no clue what they're looking at). For all we know dude nerded out and did a long spiel about his cool old snes carts and they cut it for time or something.
The hell are you talking about Douglas?
Me personally I don't think it's neat at all he just bought a bunch of games, people judging the "content" of it I don't care too much for it was pretty obvious he had NES,SNES etc even though it wasn't shown in the original video.
Watching this video made me smile that he could silence the critics. I'm happy for the guy.
Only thing that's would make me nervous is his collection is in his attic. In certain areas of Texas they common frame roof systems so you have space to store stuff but if he has a leak it's in his game room.
As far as value i would say its just shy 500k (not including sweat equity)
Overall "A" in my book
The numbers still don't add up to 20K no matter how you look at it...there is a discrepancy numbers wise or doubles issue somewhere unless he is missing things not stated in the video.
Have you counted the fact he’s got a lot of Japanese import games? There might easily be duplicates where it’ll be hard for Guinness people to know when counting up the numbers.
No matter what the count is there's going to be discrepancies and overlap according to each individuals standards.
I consider Doki Doki Panic (FDS), Super Mario USA (FC), and Super Mario Bros. 2 all to be the same game. Some might call it two games, some might call it three unique games.
What really is unknown is if they even have a standard to begin with, and if they have one then what that standard constitutes. Also if there are blatant holes then they should be patched with lesser inconveniences and discrepancies just be considered a nuance of their system.
Define "duplicate" though. Maybe he collects variants?
Duplicate = same game (gameplay-wise) with different title or language.
Some Japanese games have only Japanese writing on them and no way of knowing the actual game without understanding Japanese. And these can be Japanese region specific games, or a Jap version of a US/Euro game.
Watching this video made me smile that he could silence the critics. I'm happy for the guy.
Only thing that's would make me nervous is his collection is in his attic. In certain areas of Texas they common frame roof systems so you have space to store stuff but if he has a leak it's in his game room.
As far as value i would say its just shy 500k (not including sweat equity)
Overall "A" in my book
The numbers still don't add up to 20K no matter how you look at it...there is a discrepancy numbers wise or doubles issue somewhere unless he is missing things not stated in the video.
Have you counted the fact he’s got a lot of Japanese import games? There might easily be duplicates where it’ll be hard for Guinness people to know when counting up the numbers.
Yes I counted the Japanese imports but most of those seem to be Famicom and Super Famicom. The numbers still are not quite there and the duplicates that should not be counted are any duplicate of the same game. Import releases and domestic counterparts are fine.
It's a very very impressive collection that mostly concentrates on newer stuff. The older stuff is all loose and that surprises me greatly. Everything on my end is CIB, older, newer, you name it. The only stuff that I don't have as much of are things I am not trying to collect for, PS2, PS3, Xbox One, etc...all those I am completely blasted on but it's very hard to push 20K games unless you mostly have filler...I was hoping to see all of Nintendo CIB as that is one of the hardest things to do but all of the cart stuff is mostly loose, so this collection is built entirely on numbers and not as much "quality" per say. I try to focus on quality and with all the old stuff out of the way I think I just need to go to my store and grab all the stuff off the shelf I don't have because essentially that is the difference maker to me...newer cheap shelf fodder...
I watched the new video, and I must say that I am pretty impressed! Tons of complete collections! I think the biggest issue is how its displayed. It would look much more impressive if he had it displayed better. I mean some of his games look like they are almost 10 feet up for fucks sake! lol
Yes I counted the Japanese imports but most of those seem to be Famicom and Super Famicom. The numbers still are not quite there and the duplicates that should not be counted are any duplicate of the same game. Import releases and domestic counterparts are fine.
It's a very very impressive collection that mostly concentrates on newer stuff. The older stuff is all loose and that surprises me greatly. Everything on my end is CIB, older, newer, you name it. The only stuff that I don't have as much of are things I am not trying to collect for, PS2, PS3, Xbox One, etc...all those I am completely blasted on but it's very hard to push 20K games unless you mostly have filler...I was hoping to see all of Nintendo CIB as that is one of the hardest things to do but all of the cart stuff is mostly loose, so this collection is built entirely on numbers and not as much "quality" per say. I try to focus on quality and with all the old stuff out of the way I think I just need to go to my store and grab all the stuff off the shelf I don't have because essentially that is the difference maker to me...newer cheap shelf fodder...
Just using round numbers, I think it's not that hard to push 20k with just fillers.
I think the entire Nintendo library, including unique imports from NES to Switch, Game & Watch to 3DS will net you about 14,000-15,000 titles. Add the 3000-4000 you get from Sega, and on just those two alone you have 17,000-19,000 games. Atari/SNK/NEC will net you another 1000 or so, Oddballs (CD-i, Odyssey 2, Coleco, INTV, Vectrex, Wonderswan, 3DO, CD32, N-Gage, SuperVision, Gamate) will probably net you yet another 1000.
Without any PlayStation or Xbox titles you're hovering around 19,000 - 21,000 unique games. Add the 4000-5000 from Xbox, and 10,000 to 12,000 from PlayStation and you've got a theoretical maximum of 35,000-38,000 unique games released on Handhelds and Consoles.
Now, that is just approximating unique titles including unique non-overlapping imports. Overlapping imports between all regions will probably triple that count at the very least.
Yes I counted the Japanese imports but most of those seem to be Famicom and Super Famicom. The numbers still are not quite there and the duplicates that should not be counted are any duplicate of the same game. Import releases and domestic counterparts are fine.
It's a very very impressive collection that mostly concentrates on newer stuff. The older stuff is all loose and that surprises me greatly. Everything on my end is CIB, older, newer, you name it. The only stuff that I don't have as much of are things I am not trying to collect for, PS2, PS3, Xbox One, etc...all those I am completely blasted on but it's very hard to push 20K games unless you mostly have filler...I was hoping to see all of Nintendo CIB as that is one of the hardest things to do but all of the cart stuff is mostly loose, so this collection is built entirely on numbers and not as much "quality" per say. I try to focus on quality and with all the old stuff out of the way I think I just need to go to my store and grab all the stuff off the shelf I don't have because essentially that is the difference maker to me...newer cheap shelf fodder...
Just using round numbers, I think it's not that hard to push 20k with just fillers.
I think the entire Nintendo library, including unique imports from NES to Switch, Game & Watch to 3DS will net you about 14,000-15,000 titles. Add the 3000-4000 you get from Sega, and on just those two alone you have 17,000-19,000 games. Atari/SNK/NEC will net you another 1000 or so, Oddballs (CD-i, Odyssey 2, Coleco, INTV, Vectrex, Wonderswan, 3DO, CD32, N-Gage, SuperVision, Gamate) will probably net you yet another 1000.
Without any PlayStation or Xbox titles you're hovering around 19,000 - 21,000 unique games. Add the 4000-5000 from Xbox, and 10,000 to 12,000 from PlayStation and you've got a theoretical maximum of 35,000-38,000 unique games released on Handhelds and Consoles.
Now, that is just approximating unique titles including unique non-overlapping imports. Overlapping imports between all regions will probably triple that count at the very least.
Sounds like a fun list to start working on
Further, who said anything at all about the requirement being our definition of "consoles"? Maybe he has a fuckton of PC game discs.
Just out of curiousity I went to MobyGames to see what their PC game count is and here's what I came up with.
Modern PC's - 62,444 Titles
Windows - 42,410 Titles - Likely Windows 95 - Windows 10
Macintosh - 14,136 Titles - Likely System 1 to OS/X and macOS
Linux - 5,898 Titles - Likely 1.X to 5.x
It would seem that modern PC's are way overinflated. They probably count DLC, mods, expansion packs, and probably other distribution platforms duplicates in their unique title counts.
Vintage PC's (Generalized)
Manufacturer
Platforms
Quantity
Microsoft
MSX, DOS, Windows 3.X
9,799
Commodore
16, 64, 128, PET, VIC-20, Amiga
9,657
Atari
ST, 8-Bit
3,784
Sinclair
ZX80, ZX81, ZX Spectrum, QL
3,505
Amstrad
CPC, PCW
2,184
NEC
PC-88, PC-98, PC-6001
1,833
Apple
II, II Game System
1,526
Acorn
BBC Micro, Electron, 32-Bit
905
Fujitsu
FM-7, FM Towns
723
Sharp
X1, X68000
662
Tandy
TRS-80, TRS-80 Color
531
Dragon
32 / 64
209
TI
TI-99, TI Programmable Calculator
168
P.S. small libraries doesn't mean shitty games. The Sharp X68000 is probably the sexiest computer around and it has my personal favorite shooter, Cho Ren Sha 68K.
Yes I counted the Japanese imports but most of those seem to be Famicom and Super Famicom. The numbers still are not quite there and the duplicates that should not be counted are any duplicate of the same game. Import releases and domestic counterparts are fine.
It's a very very impressive collection that mostly concentrates on newer stuff. The older stuff is all loose and that surprises me greatly. Everything on my end is CIB, older, newer, you name it. The only stuff that I don't have as much of are things I am not trying to collect for, PS2, PS3, Xbox One, etc...all those I am completely blasted on but it's very hard to push 20K games unless you mostly have filler...I was hoping to see all of Nintendo CIB as that is one of the hardest things to do but all of the cart stuff is mostly loose, so this collection is built entirely on numbers and not as much "quality" per say. I try to focus on quality and with all the old stuff out of the way I think I just need to go to my store and grab all the stuff off the shelf I don't have because essentially that is the difference maker to me...newer cheap shelf fodder...
Just using round numbers, I think it's not that hard to push 20k with just fillers.
I think the entire Nintendo library, including unique imports from NES to Switch, Game & Watch to 3DS will net you about 14,000-15,000 titles. Add the 3000-4000 you get from Sega, and on just those two alone you have 17,000-19,000 games. Atari/SNK/NEC will net you another 1000 or so, Oddballs (CD-i, Odyssey 2, Coleco, INTV, Vectrex, Wonderswan, 3DO, CD32, N-Gage, SuperVision, Gamate) will probably net you yet another 1000.
Without any PlayStation or Xbox titles you're hovering around 19,000 - 21,000 unique games. Add the 4000-5000 from Xbox, and 10,000 to 12,000 from PlayStation and you've got a theoretical maximum of 35,000-38,000 unique games released on Handhelds and Consoles.
Now, that is just approximating unique titles including unique non-overlapping imports. Overlapping imports between all regions will probably triple that count at the very least.
Sounds like a fun list to start working on
Game and Watches are not part of this since those are systems, not games.
Saying "it is not hard to get 15000-20000 titles, etc" if you have all the imports, the thing is, he doesn't have an entire import collection of Wii/DS/and GCN games so that logic is out the window...that is where most of the filler comes from...numbers I listed alone around 7,400 titles. 3ds is slightly over 400 and Switch isn't a thing much yet with a a few hundred...nowhere near even with "uniue" titles 15K-20K at all, that's insane. The main thing is the filler on the PS systems and XB0X 360. He has the carts alone, but just that, "carts."
I consider Doki Doki Panic (FDS), Super Mario USA (FC), and Super Mario Bros. 2 all to be the same game. Some might call it two games, some might call it three unique games.
OK, da fuq? Doki Doki Panic requires you beat the game with all 4 characters, saves your progress, you can beat it in almost any order, doesn't have running...
Yes, SMB2 was based on Doki Doki Panic, but it's so far from the original game, that's ridiculous. It's almost like something someone would say to sound smart. Oh wait...
I consider Doki Doki Panic (FDS), Super Mario USA (FC), and Super Mario Bros. 2 all to be the same game. Some might call it two games, some might call it three unique games.
OK, da fuq? Doki Doki Panic requires you beat the game with all 4 characters, saves your progress, you can beat it in almost any order, doesn't have running...
Yes, SMB2 was based on Doki Doki Panic, but it's so far from the original game, that's ridiculous. It's almost like something someone would say to sound smart. Oh wait...
Ouch so hostile. Go get a snickers.
Let’s call probotector, gryzor, and contra three different games too.
Also, mike Tyson’s and regular Punch Out are different.
If this thread has taught us anything it's that a lot of folks here are judgemental as hell lol. What kind of reality are we living in, really, where a video from a local news station about a dudes video game collection doesn't make us all go "Hey that's pretty neat" at the very least? Dunno why people feel the need to judge the guy or his collection. None of us here have personally audited it, nor to my knowledge met with him or chatted with him or anything. All we have to go on is an admittedly shoddily edited video from a pretty amateur looking local news station (who themselves obviously have no clue what they're looking at). For all we know dude nerded out and did a long spiel about his cool old snes carts and they cut it for time or something.
Collecting contains a ton of dick-measuring. It's not really all that surprising that when the ultimate yard stick comes out, in the form of Guiness Book of World Records, that people are going to start questioning the yard stick. If he just posted this as "Hey, check out my collection" everyone would have been like "Oh awesome, that collection is huge!" However, this is him saying "I have the biggest e-penis" and now everyone is obsessing over the accuracy of the ruler.
I consider Doki Doki Panic (FDS), Super Mario USA (FC), and Super Mario Bros. 2 all to be the same game. Some might call it two games, some might call it three unique games.
OK, da fuq? Doki Doki Panic requires you beat the game with all 4 characters, saves your progress, you can beat it in almost any order, doesn't have running...
Yes, SMB2 was based on Doki Doki Panic, but it's so far from the original game, that's ridiculous. It's almost like something someone would say to sound smart. Oh wait...
Ouch so hostile. Go get a snickers.
Let’s call probotector, gryzor, and contra three different games too.
Also, mike Tyson’s and regular Punch Out are different.
Sprite swaps versus fundamental changes to game design. Yeah, totally equivalent. #Strawman.
I consider Doki Doki Panic (FDS), Super Mario USA (FC), and Super Mario Bros. 2 all to be the same game. Some might call it two games, some might call it three unique games.
OK, da fuq? Doki Doki Panic requires you beat the game with all 4 characters, saves your progress, you can beat it in almost any order, doesn't have running...
Yes, SMB2 was based on Doki Doki Panic, but it's so far from the original game, that's ridiculous. It's almost like something someone would say to sound smart. Oh wait...
Ouch so hostile. Go get a snickers.
Let’s call probotector, gryzor, and contra three different games too.
Also, mike Tyson’s and regular Punch Out are different.
Sprite swaps versus fundamental changes to game design. Yeah, totally equivalent. #Strawman.
There are a lot of differences in games across regions. You have to draw a line somewhere and everyone has different opinions. I’m not forcing anyone to see it my way, even though it’s the right way.
I consider Doki Doki Panic (FDS), Super Mario USA (FC), and Super Mario Bros. 2 all to be the same game. Some might call it two games, some might call it three unique games.
OK, da fuq? Doki Doki Panic requires you beat the game with all 4 characters, saves your progress, you can beat it in almost any order, doesn't have running...
Yes, SMB2 was based on Doki Doki Panic, but it's so far from the original game, that's ridiculous. It's almost like something someone would say to sound smart. Oh wait...
Ouch so hostile. Go get a snickers.
Let’s call probotector, gryzor, and contra three different games too.
Also, mike Tyson’s and regular Punch Out are different.
Sprite swaps versus fundamental changes to game design. Yeah, totally equivalent. #Strawman.
There are a lot of differences in games across regions. You have to draw a line somewhere and everyone has different opinions. I’m not forcing anyone to see it my way, even though it’s the right way.
I forgot, you were going to play Caltron and Myriad 6-in-1 for your book. Apparently, at that point, you considered a "sticker" made them different games. Consistentcy isn't exactly your strong suit.
Fundamental changes in thinking and new discoveries is the reason why we don't consider Tengen Tetris and the Aladdin Carts to be holy grails any more.
I like to keep the scope as broad as possible while still finding small fine details to differentiate things.
Wait, what are we arguing about again? Also, seriously quite being an antagonizer. It ain't chill and you're bringing hostility.
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Originally posted by: Every1whocountsluvsNedFlanders
Originally posted by: DarkKobold
Holy derailment, can we go back to passive-aggressive attacks at this guy's collection?
Dude it's page 5, obligatory derailment at this point.
By the way your name is short and sucks.
You gotta pump up your posts viewed per page.
Holy derailment, can we go back to passive-aggressive attacks at this guy's collection?
Game collector? More like SHAME collector, am I right?
More like it's too bad he couldn't have used that money and done something good with it.
Really? I mean, we all spend money on what we want. Did you go to the bar this week? Maybe buy yourself some new skis? Did you play video games this week? That's time you could have spent at a soup kitchen giving meals to the homeless!
I mean, we all spend our time and money on things that make us happy. If amassing a giant collection of video games made him happy, didn't hurt anyone else, why judge it?
Yeah, really guy.
I don't even know how just blowing money can earn you a Guiness record.
If this thread has taught us one thing, it's that Guinness world records is nothing more than a self-promoting marketing machine, with zero authority on anything substantial. Their records are literally according to themselves, and bare no relation to anyone or anything else.
This may come as a shock to some. I remember I used to watch the Guinness world records TV show, and thinking I could never make it on there. Then I grew up, realised that Santa is a fraud and the Easter Bunny's on crack, and NOTHING feels special any more...
I don't even know how just blowing money can earn you a Guiness record.
If this thread has taught us one thing, it's that Guinness world records is nothing more than a self-promoting marketing machine, with zero authority on anything substantial. Their records are literally according to themselves, and bare no relation to anyone or anything else.
This may come as a shock to some. I remember I used to watch the Guinness world records TV show, and thinking I could never make it on there. Then I grew up, realised that Santa is a fraud and the Easter Bunny's on crack, and NOTHING feels special any more...
If this thread has taught us anything it's that a lot of folks here are judgemental as hell lol.
What kind of reality are we living in, really, where a video from a local news station about a dudes video game collection doesn't make us all go "Hey that's pretty neat" at the very least? Dunno why people feel the need to judge the guy or his collection. None of us here have personally audited it, nor to my knowledge met with him or chatted with him or anything. All we have to go on is an admittedly shoddily edited video from a pretty amateur looking local news station (who themselves obviously have no clue what they're looking at).
For all we know dude nerded out and did a long spiel about his cool old snes carts and they cut it for time or something.
I don't even know how just blowing money can earn you a Guiness record.
If this thread has taught us one thing, it's that Guinness world records is nothing more than a self-promoting marketing machine, with zero authority on anything substantial. Their records are literally according to themselves, and bare no relation to anyone or anything else. This may come as a shock to some. I remember I used to watch the Guinness world records TV show, and thinking I could never make it on there. Then I grew up, realised that Santa is a fraud and the Easter Bunny's on crack, and NOTHING feels special any more...
If this thread has taught us anything it's that a lot of folks here are judgemental as hell lol.
Unfortunately, I learned that far before this thread.
I don't even know how just blowing money can earn you a Guiness record.
If this thread has taught us one thing, it's that Guinness world records is nothing more than a self-promoting marketing machine, with zero authority on anything substantial. Their records are literally according to themselves, and bare no relation to anyone or anything else. This may come as a shock to some. I remember I used to watch the Guinness world records TV show, and thinking I could never make it on there. Then I grew up, realised that Santa is a fraud and the Easter Bunny's on crack, and NOTHING feels special any more...
If this thread has taught us anything it's that a lot of folks here are judgemental as hell lol. What kind of reality are we living in, really, where a video from a local news station about a dudes video game collection doesn't make us all go "Hey that's pretty neat" at the very least? Dunno why people feel the need to judge the guy or his collection. None of us here have personally audited it, nor to my knowledge met with him or chatted with him or anything. All we have to go on is an admittedly shoddily edited video from a pretty amateur looking local news station (who themselves obviously have no clue what they're looking at). For all we know dude nerded out and did a long spiel about his cool old snes carts and they cut it for time or something.
The hell are you talking about Douglas?
Me personally I don't think it's neat at all he just bought a bunch of games, people judging the "content" of it I don't care too much for it was pretty obvious he had NES,SNES etc even though it wasn't shown in the original video.
Watching this video made me smile that he could silence the critics. I'm happy for the guy.
Only thing that's would make me nervous is his collection is in his attic. In certain areas of Texas they common frame roof systems so you have space to store stuff but if he has a leak it's in his game room.
As far as value i would say its just shy 500k (not including sweat equity)
Overall "A" in my book
The numbers still don't add up to 20K no matter how you look at it...there is a discrepancy numbers wise or doubles issue somewhere unless he is missing things not stated in the video.
Have you counted the fact he’s got a lot of Japanese import games? There might easily be duplicates where it’ll be hard for Guinness people to know when counting up the numbers.
I consider Doki Doki Panic (FDS), Super Mario USA (FC), and Super Mario Bros. 2 all to be the same game. Some might call it two games, some might call it three unique games.
What really is unknown is if they even have a standard to begin with, and if they have one then what that standard constitutes. Also if there are blatant holes then they should be patched with lesser inconveniences and discrepancies just be considered a nuance of their system.
Define "duplicate" though. Maybe he collects variants?
Duplicate = same game (gameplay-wise) with different title or language.
Some Japanese games have only Japanese writing on them and no way of knowing the actual game without understanding Japanese. And these can be Japanese region specific games, or a Jap version of a US/Euro game.
Watching this video made me smile that he could silence the critics. I'm happy for the guy.
Only thing that's would make me nervous is his collection is in his attic. In certain areas of Texas they common frame roof systems so you have space to store stuff but if he has a leak it's in his game room.
As far as value i would say its just shy 500k (not including sweat equity)
Overall "A" in my book
The numbers still don't add up to 20K no matter how you look at it...there is a discrepancy numbers wise or doubles issue somewhere unless he is missing things not stated in the video.
Have you counted the fact he’s got a lot of Japanese import games? There might easily be duplicates where it’ll be hard for Guinness people to know when counting up the numbers.
Yes I counted the Japanese imports but most of those seem to be Famicom and Super Famicom. The numbers still are not quite there and the duplicates that should not be counted are any duplicate of the same game. Import releases and domestic counterparts are fine.
It's a very very impressive collection that mostly concentrates on newer stuff. The older stuff is all loose and that surprises me greatly. Everything on my end is CIB, older, newer, you name it. The only stuff that I don't have as much of are things I am not trying to collect for, PS2, PS3, Xbox One, etc...all those I am completely blasted on but it's very hard to push 20K games unless you mostly have filler...I was hoping to see all of Nintendo CIB as that is one of the hardest things to do but all of the cart stuff is mostly loose, so this collection is built entirely on numbers and not as much "quality" per say. I try to focus on quality and with all the old stuff out of the way I think I just need to go to my store and grab all the stuff off the shelf I don't have because essentially that is the difference maker to me...newer cheap shelf fodder...
Yes I counted the Japanese imports but most of those seem to be Famicom and Super Famicom. The numbers still are not quite there and the duplicates that should not be counted are any duplicate of the same game. Import releases and domestic counterparts are fine.
It's a very very impressive collection that mostly concentrates on newer stuff. The older stuff is all loose and that surprises me greatly. Everything on my end is CIB, older, newer, you name it. The only stuff that I don't have as much of are things I am not trying to collect for, PS2, PS3, Xbox One, etc...all those I am completely blasted on but it's very hard to push 20K games unless you mostly have filler...I was hoping to see all of Nintendo CIB as that is one of the hardest things to do but all of the cart stuff is mostly loose, so this collection is built entirely on numbers and not as much "quality" per say. I try to focus on quality and with all the old stuff out of the way I think I just need to go to my store and grab all the stuff off the shelf I don't have because essentially that is the difference maker to me...newer cheap shelf fodder...
Just using round numbers, I think it's not that hard to push 20k with just fillers.
I think the entire Nintendo library, including unique imports from NES to Switch, Game & Watch to 3DS will net you about 14,000-15,000 titles. Add the 3000-4000 you get from Sega, and on just those two alone you have 17,000-19,000 games. Atari/SNK/NEC will net you another 1000 or so, Oddballs (CD-i, Odyssey 2, Coleco, INTV, Vectrex, Wonderswan, 3DO, CD32, N-Gage, SuperVision, Gamate) will probably net you yet another 1000.
Without any PlayStation or Xbox titles you're hovering around 19,000 - 21,000 unique games. Add the 4000-5000 from Xbox, and 10,000 to 12,000 from PlayStation and you've got a theoretical maximum of 35,000-38,000 unique games released on Handhelds and Consoles.
Now, that is just approximating unique titles including unique non-overlapping imports. Overlapping imports between all regions will probably triple that count at the very least.
Sounds like a fun list to start working on
Yes I counted the Japanese imports but most of those seem to be Famicom and Super Famicom. The numbers still are not quite there and the duplicates that should not be counted are any duplicate of the same game. Import releases and domestic counterparts are fine.
It's a very very impressive collection that mostly concentrates on newer stuff. The older stuff is all loose and that surprises me greatly. Everything on my end is CIB, older, newer, you name it. The only stuff that I don't have as much of are things I am not trying to collect for, PS2, PS3, Xbox One, etc...all those I am completely blasted on but it's very hard to push 20K games unless you mostly have filler...I was hoping to see all of Nintendo CIB as that is one of the hardest things to do but all of the cart stuff is mostly loose, so this collection is built entirely on numbers and not as much "quality" per say. I try to focus on quality and with all the old stuff out of the way I think I just need to go to my store and grab all the stuff off the shelf I don't have because essentially that is the difference maker to me...newer cheap shelf fodder...
Just using round numbers, I think it's not that hard to push 20k with just fillers.
I think the entire Nintendo library, including unique imports from NES to Switch, Game & Watch to 3DS will net you about 14,000-15,000 titles. Add the 3000-4000 you get from Sega, and on just those two alone you have 17,000-19,000 games. Atari/SNK/NEC will net you another 1000 or so, Oddballs (CD-i, Odyssey 2, Coleco, INTV, Vectrex, Wonderswan, 3DO, CD32, N-Gage, SuperVision, Gamate) will probably net you yet another 1000.
Without any PlayStation or Xbox titles you're hovering around 19,000 - 21,000 unique games. Add the 4000-5000 from Xbox, and 10,000 to 12,000 from PlayStation and you've got a theoretical maximum of 35,000-38,000 unique games released on Handhelds and Consoles.
Now, that is just approximating unique titles including unique non-overlapping imports. Overlapping imports between all regions will probably triple that count at the very least.
Sounds like a fun list to start working on
Further, who said anything at all about the requirement being our definition of "consoles"? Maybe he has a fuckton of PC game discs.
Further, who said anything at all about the requirement being our definition of "consoles"? Maybe he has a fuckton of PC game discs.
Commodore 64 and DOS alone are probably 50,000 titles
Further, who said anything at all about the requirement being our definition of "consoles"? Maybe he has a fuckton of PC game discs.
Commodore 64 and DOS alone are probably 50,000 titles
And often mere pennies a piece.
Modern PC's - 62,444 Titles
Windows - 42,410 Titles - Likely Windows 95 - Windows 10
Macintosh - 14,136 Titles - Likely System 1 to OS/X and macOS
Linux - 5,898 Titles - Likely 1.X to 5.x
It would seem that modern PC's are way overinflated. They probably count DLC, mods, expansion packs, and probably other distribution platforms duplicates in their unique title counts.
Vintage PC's (Generalized)
P.S. small libraries doesn't mean shitty games. The Sharp X68000 is probably the sexiest computer around and it has my personal favorite shooter, Cho Ren Sha 68K.
Yes I counted the Japanese imports but most of those seem to be Famicom and Super Famicom. The numbers still are not quite there and the duplicates that should not be counted are any duplicate of the same game. Import releases and domestic counterparts are fine.
It's a very very impressive collection that mostly concentrates on newer stuff. The older stuff is all loose and that surprises me greatly. Everything on my end is CIB, older, newer, you name it. The only stuff that I don't have as much of are things I am not trying to collect for, PS2, PS3, Xbox One, etc...all those I am completely blasted on but it's very hard to push 20K games unless you mostly have filler...I was hoping to see all of Nintendo CIB as that is one of the hardest things to do but all of the cart stuff is mostly loose, so this collection is built entirely on numbers and not as much "quality" per say. I try to focus on quality and with all the old stuff out of the way I think I just need to go to my store and grab all the stuff off the shelf I don't have because essentially that is the difference maker to me...newer cheap shelf fodder...
Just using round numbers, I think it's not that hard to push 20k with just fillers.
I think the entire Nintendo library, including unique imports from NES to Switch, Game & Watch to 3DS will net you about 14,000-15,000 titles. Add the 3000-4000 you get from Sega, and on just those two alone you have 17,000-19,000 games. Atari/SNK/NEC will net you another 1000 or so, Oddballs (CD-i, Odyssey 2, Coleco, INTV, Vectrex, Wonderswan, 3DO, CD32, N-Gage, SuperVision, Gamate) will probably net you yet another 1000.
Without any PlayStation or Xbox titles you're hovering around 19,000 - 21,000 unique games. Add the 4000-5000 from Xbox, and 10,000 to 12,000 from PlayStation and you've got a theoretical maximum of 35,000-38,000 unique games released on Handhelds and Consoles.
Now, that is just approximating unique titles including unique non-overlapping imports. Overlapping imports between all regions will probably triple that count at the very least.
Sounds like a fun list to start working on
Game and Watches are not part of this since those are systems, not games.
Also, approximate numbers...800 NES, 800 SNES, N64 300, GB, GBC, GBA-1700, GameCube-800, Wii-1200, DS-1700, WIi U-150...
Saying "it is not hard to get 15000-20000 titles, etc" if you have all the imports, the thing is, he doesn't have an entire import collection of Wii/DS/and GCN games so that logic is out the window...that is where most of the filler comes from...numbers I listed alone around 7,400 titles. 3ds is slightly over 400 and Switch isn't a thing much yet with a a few hundred...nowhere near even with "uniue" titles 15K-20K at all, that's insane. The main thing is the filler on the PS systems and XB0X 360. He has the carts alone, but just that, "carts."
I consider Doki Doki Panic (FDS), Super Mario USA (FC), and Super Mario Bros. 2 all to be the same game. Some might call it two games, some might call it three unique games.
OK, da fuq? Doki Doki Panic requires you beat the game with all 4 characters, saves your progress, you can beat it in almost any order, doesn't have running...
Yes, SMB2 was based on Doki Doki Panic, but it's so far from the original game, that's ridiculous. It's almost like something someone would say to sound smart. Oh wait...
I consider Doki Doki Panic (FDS), Super Mario USA (FC), and Super Mario Bros. 2 all to be the same game. Some might call it two games, some might call it three unique games.
OK, da fuq? Doki Doki Panic requires you beat the game with all 4 characters, saves your progress, you can beat it in almost any order, doesn't have running...
Yes, SMB2 was based on Doki Doki Panic, but it's so far from the original game, that's ridiculous. It's almost like something someone would say to sound smart. Oh wait...
Ouch so hostile. Go get a snickers.
Let’s call probotector, gryzor, and contra three different games too.
Also, mike Tyson’s and regular Punch Out are different.
If this thread has taught us anything it's that a lot of folks here are judgemental as hell lol. What kind of reality are we living in, really, where a video from a local news station about a dudes video game collection doesn't make us all go "Hey that's pretty neat" at the very least? Dunno why people feel the need to judge the guy or his collection. None of us here have personally audited it, nor to my knowledge met with him or chatted with him or anything. All we have to go on is an admittedly shoddily edited video from a pretty amateur looking local news station (who themselves obviously have no clue what they're looking at). For all we know dude nerded out and did a long spiel about his cool old snes carts and they cut it for time or something.
Collecting contains a ton of dick-measuring. It's not really all that surprising that when the ultimate yard stick comes out, in the form of Guiness Book of World Records, that people are going to start questioning the yard stick. If he just posted this as "Hey, check out my collection" everyone would have been like "Oh awesome, that collection is huge!" However, this is him saying "I have the biggest e-penis" and now everyone is obsessing over the accuracy of the ruler.
I consider Doki Doki Panic (FDS), Super Mario USA (FC), and Super Mario Bros. 2 all to be the same game. Some might call it two games, some might call it three unique games.
OK, da fuq? Doki Doki Panic requires you beat the game with all 4 characters, saves your progress, you can beat it in almost any order, doesn't have running...
Yes, SMB2 was based on Doki Doki Panic, but it's so far from the original game, that's ridiculous. It's almost like something someone would say to sound smart. Oh wait...
Ouch so hostile. Go get a snickers.
Let’s call probotector, gryzor, and contra three different games too.
Also, mike Tyson’s and regular Punch Out are different.
Sprite swaps versus fundamental changes to game design. Yeah, totally equivalent. #Strawman.
I consider Doki Doki Panic (FDS), Super Mario USA (FC), and Super Mario Bros. 2 all to be the same game. Some might call it two games, some might call it three unique games.
OK, da fuq? Doki Doki Panic requires you beat the game with all 4 characters, saves your progress, you can beat it in almost any order, doesn't have running...
Yes, SMB2 was based on Doki Doki Panic, but it's so far from the original game, that's ridiculous. It's almost like something someone would say to sound smart. Oh wait...
Ouch so hostile. Go get a snickers.
Let’s call probotector, gryzor, and contra three different games too.
Also, mike Tyson’s and regular Punch Out are different.
Sprite swaps versus fundamental changes to game design. Yeah, totally equivalent. #Strawman.
There are a lot of differences in games across regions. You have to draw a line somewhere and everyone has different opinions. I’m not forcing anyone to see it my way, even though it’s the right way.
I consider Doki Doki Panic (FDS), Super Mario USA (FC), and Super Mario Bros. 2 all to be the same game. Some might call it two games, some might call it three unique games.
OK, da fuq? Doki Doki Panic requires you beat the game with all 4 characters, saves your progress, you can beat it in almost any order, doesn't have running...
Yes, SMB2 was based on Doki Doki Panic, but it's so far from the original game, that's ridiculous. It's almost like something someone would say to sound smart. Oh wait...
Ouch so hostile. Go get a snickers.
Let’s call probotector, gryzor, and contra three different games too.
Also, mike Tyson’s and regular Punch Out are different.
Sprite swaps versus fundamental changes to game design. Yeah, totally equivalent. #Strawman.
There are a lot of differences in games across regions. You have to draw a line somewhere and everyone has different opinions. I’m not forcing anyone to see it my way, even though it’s the right way.
I forgot, you were going to play Caltron and Myriad 6-in-1 for your book. Apparently, at that point, you considered a "sticker" made them different games. Consistentcy isn't exactly your strong suit.
I like to keep the scope as broad as possible while still finding small fine details to differentiate things.
Wait, what are we arguing about again? Also, seriously quite being an antagonizer. It ain't chill and you're bringing hostility.