Leaving Neverland, Michael Jackson documentary, or one sided smear campaign?
Well, I have seen half of the entire documentary, and honestly I do not think this is the "final word" or "nail in the coffin" thing everybody makes it to be. Moreso considering some background about the two men in question (they claimed not to profit from the film, but they are suing Jackson's estate), and the way the testimonies seem scripted to me. Specially the mothers', they just talk about how their sons were put in danger by them without any sign of grief or remorse. Also the two men seem too calm to me (but that may be my own impression, or maybe sexual abuse victims can come to terms like that? I don't know).
I don't put my hands on fire for Jackson, nor for these two persons, until real evidence is provided. I agree Michael's behavior was very odd and suspicious, but there's the trauma and lost childhood theory around (and overall man-child kind of character) to consider.
What do you think?
BTW, I found this some time ago, what a huge collection he had!
http://www.pinsane2.com/pinorama/events/MJ_09/kr/michael_jackson_arcade_entry.html
I don't put my hands on fire for Jackson, nor for these two persons, until real evidence is provided. I agree Michael's behavior was very odd and suspicious, but there's the trauma and lost childhood theory around (and overall man-child kind of character) to consider.
What do you think?
BTW, I found this some time ago, what a huge collection he had!
http://www.pinsane2.com/pinorama/events/MJ_09/kr/michael_jackson_arcade_entry.html
Comments
Name one adult man (not in your direct family) that you would let your children sleep with. One.
Also, the FBI and justice system found him innocent of all charges after a lengthy investigation and raid on his home...
Never a real fan of his music and don't really care, just find the whole thing really interesting how people are ready to burn him at the stake on the word of two proven liars and manipulators. Just seems to be BS from the actual facts and proof (Even the guy in charge of the investigation from the first case said he was innocent at the time and these guys are lying now, and he has no reason to lie).
Also for the "sleeping" with kids thing, if you do even the slightest amount of research he allowed the whole families of kids to sleep in his "bedroom" which was 2 stores and over 2000sqft.
F anyone who abuses kids, but the actual proof and facts lean towards MJ just being real Fing weird and socially awkward on account of emotional abuse growing up and a skyrocket into being one of the most famous people of all time.
Pretty much everything they have said has been proven false or contradicting. They at least seem completely full of it.
Also, the FBI and justice system found him innocent of all charges after a lengthy investigation and raid on his home...
Never a real fan of his music and don't really care, just find the whole thing really interesting how people are ready to burn him at the stake on the word of two proven liars and manipulators. Just seems to be BS from the actual facts and proof (Even the guy in charge of the investigation from the first case said he was innocent at the time and these guys are lying now, and he has no reason to lie).
Also for the "sleeping" with kids thing, if you do even the slightest amount of research he allowed the whole families of kids to sleep in his "bedroom" which was 2 stores and over 2000sqft.
F anyone who abuses kids, but the actual proof and facts lean towards MJ just being real Fing weird and socially awkward on account of emotional abuse growing up and a skyrocket into being one of the most famous people of all time.
I was in your camp. MJ was weird but did not abuse children.
Then I watched the 2 part doc and the special with Opera called Surviving Neverland. I’m now convinced that MJ was not innocent.
Watch all 3 including the sit down with Opera and other sex abuse survivors and see if you still feel the same way. It might not change your mind but it changed my mind.
Michael Jackson was getting off with somebody all of those years. And it sure wasn't with any woman, and it doesn't seem like he was much for boyfriends.
Name one adult man (not in your direct family) that you would let your children sleep with. One.
Michael Jackson.
Just the two latest accusers, in a long line of people children boys preteen boys "cute" preteen boys that have indeed slept in his bed with him. A totally normal thing that non-predators do. And even if he didn't touch them, which he almost assuredly did, he was still warping them. Boundaries are being broken.
Michael Jackson was getting off with somebody all of those years. And it sure wasn't with any woman, and it doesn't seem like he was much for boyfriends.
MJ has children, therefore, he had sex with a woman, therefore, he's straight. Also he was married to Elvis's daughter, who was also a woman
Just the two latest accusers, in a long line of people children boys preteen boys "cute" preteen boys that have indeed slept in his bed with him. A totally normal thing that non-predators do. And even if he didn't touch them, which he almost assuredly did, he was still warping them. Boundaries are being broken.
Michael Jackson was getting off with somebody all of those years. And it sure wasn't with any woman, and it doesn't seem like he was much for boyfriends.
MJ has children, therefore, he had sex with a woman, therefore, he's straight. Also he was married to Elvis's daughter, who was also a woman
I thought his kids with Debbie Rowe were lab induced, not the old-fashioned way?
Just the two latest accusers, in a long line of people children boys preteen boys "cute" preteen boys that have indeed slept in his bed with him. A totally normal thing that non-predators do. And even if he didn't touch them, which he almost assuredly did, he was still warping them. Boundaries are being broken.
Michael Jackson was getting off with somebody all of those years. And it sure wasn't with any woman, and it doesn't seem like he was much for boyfriends.
MJ has children, therefore, he had sex with a woman, therefore, he's straight. Also he was married to Elvis's daughter, who was also a woman
lol?
Troll post?
Originally posted by: empire
Originally posted by: Brock Landers
Just the two latest accusers, in a long line of people children boys preteen boys "cute" preteen boys that have indeed slept in his bed with him. A totally normal thing that non-predators do. And even if he didn't touch them, which he almost assuredly did, he was still warping them. Boundaries are being broken.
Michael Jackson was getting off with somebody all of those years. And it sure wasn't with any woman, and it doesn't seem like he was much for boyfriends.
MJ has children, therefore, he had sex with a woman, therefore, he's straight. Also he was married to Elvis's daughter, who was also a woman
That's not what Norm Macdonald told me (kidding).
The 93 and 2005 lawsuit seem to be fabrications by money chasers, honestly. Have you heard the Chandler recording? and the history of fraud and perjury from the accusers in 2005? The money begging from the kids father, and inconsistent testimonies?
Have you heard the part where a grown man had a steady diet of little boys sleeping in his bedroom where they looked at naked pictures of other little boys with him?
What's the difference between Neil Armstorng and Michael Jackson?
Neil dressed like a woman and did cocaine while Jackson mostly just fucked little boys?
Wait, I'm thinking of Vince Neil.
What's the difference between Neil Armstorng and Michael Jackson?
Neil dressed like a woman and did cocaine while Jackson mostly just fucked little boys?
Wait, I'm thinking of Vince Neil.
I'll take that answer.
I just can't see two grown-ass men conspiring together to make horrific accusations and tell 100% lies of a world famous dead man on an HBO documentary that'll be seen by millions.
Though to be honest, during the actual 2005 trial, I kinda thought both sides cases were rather weak.
The 93 and 2005 lawsuit seem to be fabrications by money chasers, honestly. Have you heard the Chandler recording? and the history of fraud and perjury from the accusers in 2005? The money begging from the kids father, and inconsistent testimonies?
Have you heard the part where a grown man had a steady diet of little boys sleeping in his bedroom where they looked at naked pictures of other little boys with him?
Well now wait a second, when I was at college (early 2000s) we had neighbors with two daughters (around 11 and 8 ish at the time) who practically would BEG to stay overnight with us...and yes when they did do so (when I was home on vacation or something) they slept in my bedroom (the only other bedroom we had was my parents) and yes they slept on the floor while I slept in my bed. So I guess by the standards of some of you I guess that makes me a perv too?
At a minimum, it makes you really bad at risk management...
"Well I'm getting sick and tired of people attacking Michael Jackson, imputing his integrity and damaging his reputation.
I don't believe a word of it! Now I'm not saying that Michael Jackson is perfect, far from it.
He may well be guilty of methodically seducing a string of young boys, I'll give ya that!
But Michael Jackson is no plagerist. It's just not in his character.
Now let's look at the facts, this 40 year old woman claims that Michael Jackson stole her song.
Now ask yourself, where would Michael Jackson come into contact with a 40 year old woman?
He hangs out with young boys! He's a child molester for God sakes! It's ridiculous!
And I for one am tired of people dragging his name through the mud! But this woman apparently wants
to make a few bucks, and she doesn't care who she hurts in the process.
Isn't it odd that she's the only one whose ever accused Michael of song stealing?
That we've never heard this accusation from anyone close to Michael? Like his maids, and butlers, and bodyguards,
And the children he regularly has sex with? Isn't that a little odd?!
But I guess the facts don't matter very much in the dirty little game of character assassination...
You see, even if Michael is vindicated in court, as I'm sure he will be, he'll always carry this with him.
He'll no longer be 'Michael Jackson: The Child Molesting Superstar', he'll be 'Michael Jackson: The Song Stealer"....
I feel sorry for Michael. But y'know who I feel more sorry for? The children.
The children around the world, who look up to Michael as a role model, who performs original material, and sometimes has sex with them.
Maybe they are the real victims in this frivolous lawsuit!" - Norm MacDonald SNL 1994
I've read a few hundred case files in my work.
This is the "thing" everytime. there is no clown hiding in the sewers or a van by the river with "free candy" on the side.
It's always someone the victim trusted.
Have you heard the part where a grown man had a steady diet of little boys sleeping in his bedroom where they looked at naked pictures of other little boys with him?
That's normal i do that all the time
Well now wait a second, when I was at college (early 2000s) we had neighbors with two daughters (around 11 and 8 ish at the time) who practically would BEG to stay overnight with us...and yes when they did do so (when I was home on vacation or something) they slept in my bedroom (the only other bedroom we had was my parents) and yes they slept on the floor while I slept in my bed. So I guess by the standards of some of you I guess that makes me a perv too?
You're a self described "cat dad", you got enough problems as it is
There's quite a bit of crazy stuff that points to it all being true.
Like.... Michael full on admitted to letting little boys sleep in bed with him. That's fucked up.