I just tried Super Mario All Stars for the first time in probably 18 years

I recall playing around with the game at a Toys R Us demo kiosk back during its release, but I never owned the game nor played it for any length of time outside of the store. Today, I decided to give it a try.

Wow, it is terrible!

What did they do to the music? Super Mario 2 in particular sounds awful! The sound effects in that game are also extremely poor. I thought Super Mario Advance had mangled the game a bit, but that GBA port is significantly better than this monstrosity.

Super Mario 1 has some ill-fitting title screen music and totally changed "secret pipe" music. They also added a clumsy "kick" frame of animation when you hit things while invincible. Again, the quality of the music is painful to the ears. I love SNES music in general, but the quality of the arrangement and the MIDI instrument choice seems like it was made by an intern at the company on his last week of contract.

I can't believe people are buying the re-release of this instead of downloading the originals via virtual console.
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  • I've always liked the ports they did of the NES titles. I thought they were quite fun back in the day, and I remember beating every game on the cart. I enjoyed the re-releases on the GBA too.
  • I remember popping this in not so long ago and not really minding anything about it at all. I'll have to pop it in again now and see.
  • I'm sorry, but there is no way the Game Boy Advance ports are better.

    They changed the actually gameplay and made it easier to beat.



    All Mario All Stars did was change cosmetic stuff, they didn't alter the gameplay.
  • I've never played the GBA ports, and from what I've played (and heard) of Super Mario All Stars it seems fine.
  • The only reason I played Super Mario All-Stars was for the Lost Levels. And for that purpose, I felt that it was a great experience.
  • I played All-Stars on my SNES more than I did any of my other games. Stupid lost levels
  • Not sure what you're on, but there's nothing wrong with the SNES Allstars, and the audio on the GBA games are worse, not better. You're running downsampled audio run over the weak GBA/GBC processors whereas the SNES used legit samples over that dedicated chip which were richer and clearer. Also the GBA games are hacked to be easier, so that's a big failure there too as Mario games really were never that disgustingly hard in the first place. I think it's just personal that you prefer the 8bit style is all, games themselves are fine.
  • I liked it.
  • I maintain that the actual sound effects in SMB2 on All Stars are horrible! I don't necessarily mean the audio clarity. I mean the sound effect choices. They replaced most of the sounds with generic clunks and such.
  • They changed the physics in All Stars as well. It isn't as tight as the originals.
  • I always loved this for the SNES but I have never payed enough attention to these details you talk of. Ill have to go and play it. Maybe its different for the Wii version?
  • Originally posted by: jonebone

    The only reason I played Super Mario All-Stars was for the Lost Levels. And for that purpose, I felt that it was a great experience.


    Could not agree more with this statement.

    As for the enhancements, I love them and think it's a great compilation. Both NES and SNES All Stars versions are great.
  • I don't care for the art style.
  • I thought they did a great job with Super Mario 3, the music and enhanced graphics were pretty good!
  • Originally posted by: marvelus10

    I always loved this for the SNES but I have never payed enough attention to these details you talk of. Ill have to go and play it. Maybe its different for the Wii version?


    The Wii version is literally the SNES ROM on a disc, run by an emulator.
  • Originally posted by: lojack44

    I thought they did a great job with Super Mario 3, the music and enhanced graphics were pretty good!


    It was a decent port largely because it was relatively unchanged. They added SNES MIDI music and left almost all the sounds untouched. Increase the color palette, add decorative backgrounds and there you have it. I wonder why they made Mario more "floaty", though.
  • I never said the GBA ports were BETTER, just that I enjoyed them. It was great to have Mario 3 on the go in portable form.
  • Originally posted by: Zing

    Originally posted by: lojack44

    I thought they did a great job with Super Mario 3, the music and enhanced graphics were pretty good!


    It was a decent port largely because it was relatively unchanged. They added SNES MIDI music and left almost all the sounds untouched. Increase the color palette, add decorative backgrounds and there you have it. I wonder why they made Mario more "floaty", though.


    You keep mentioning the snes as having midi music...it does not.
  • I am referring to the SNES wavetable music instead of NES synthesizer. I presume no one is seriously confused by this.
  • Originally posted by: Leathco

    I never said the GBA ports were BETTER, just that I enjoyed them. It was great to have Mario 3 on the go in portable form.


    The OP was the one who said they were better, not you Happy birthday though!
  • The Wii version is worse than the SNES title, it has serious lag issues with like input vs reaction on screen. I can pull out the cart and I'm fine, pull out the Wii disc when I had it and the same jumps didn't work using the same timing as it would be like a 1/2 second or less late which caused a lot of infuriating deaths.
  • I actually agree with OP in alot of ways. I've owned the game since the time it was originally released and I've never liked it. I think the music is abysmal compared to the NES versions for the exact same reason. it's just...bad. The graphics are hit or miss, but I prefer the plainer look of the NES versions. Even at an extremely young age I felt this way. they are all admittedly, good ports of the originals. I'm glad the issues are cosmetic only, and that they didn't mess with the gameplay like the GBA games. Those were still good too, but only because of the initial thrill to be had playing SMB2 on a portable.
  • Re: GBA ports



    There was no reason we had to suffer through hearing Mario say "just what I needed" and "lucky" a billion times. Ugh.
  • yeah but they toned that down substantially after the first game.
  • The one thing I'll concede but this even goes for the NES, they were complete bastards downgrading the quality of the Mario sprites and it's even uglier by far on the Allstars cart. Mario in #2 was rounded, actually had eyes, and was like the tv cartoon. The Mario #3 mario is very plain, black dot beedie eyes, and just weirdly proportioned.
  • I've never played All Stars, but from some of what I'm reading here it reminds me of how I felt that they botched up Ninja Gaiden Trilogy.
  • Originally posted by: Roth

    I've never played All Stars, but from some of what I'm reading here it reminds me of how I felt that they botched up Ninja Gaiden Trilogy.


    youve seriously never played all stars???? hows that even possible....... it was the staple of my childhood haha.

    thats like a sports fan saying they've never seen an NFL game
  • the controls are way more stiff than the nes titles. I refuse to play all stars for anything other than lost levels.
  • Originally posted by: whitetrashshayno

    the controls are way more stiff than the nes titles. I refuse to play all stars for anything other than lost levels.


    go buy a famicom and a FDS! then play it the real way peretty much the only reason i got an FDS but now i kinda wanna get metroid and zelda,.... maybe kid icarus too
  • Originally posted by: quest4nes

    Originally posted by: Roth

    I've never played All Stars, but from some of what I'm reading here it reminds me of how I felt that they botched up Ninja Gaiden Trilogy.


    youve seriously never played all stars???? hows that even possible....... it was the staple of my childhood haha.

    thats like a sports fan saying they've never seen an NFL game


    Your childhood must have been quite a few years after mine. As I said in my OP, I just barely played All Stars. In 1993, everyone my age still had their NES hooked up and was enjoying the original versions of the games. Any older Nintendo gamer in late 1993 already owned a SNES, so we didn't acquire All Stars through the pack-in.
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