Original Game Boy - powers up but sign of game function

I got a Game Boy that was in rough shape. I took it all apart to clean the plastic bits. When I reassembled everything, the unit powers up, but there's no video, sound or any indication of game function. There's no scrolling Nintendo text or 2 note jingle.

Dumb ol me, I never tested the unit before disassembly, so I don't know if I broke it while it was taken apart. I've used an AC adapter and batteries, power isn't an issue. I've tried two good working carts and cleaned the slot. Nothing seems to get this unit to operate. I've looked over the motherboard and I can't see any damage, corrosion or otherwise. I've listened through headphones and the unit makes the typical sound pop whenever power is turned on (as with the speaker), but again, no response. Since the LED and speaker work, I don't think the ribbon cable is the problem here.

Is anybody here familiar with Game Boy repair? Are there places I can look that typically succumb to failure?

Comments

  • When you took it apart it's possible the screen loosened, this is a super common thing to happen with original Gameboy. That's why I wouldn't take one apart but it is fixable.



  • Why would that cause the system to not boot any games? I listened to the headphone jack (which isn't part of the screen/speaker board) and I never hear any game sounds or the Game Boy boot-up thing. This sounds more like a system logic problem, rather than a screen related one...
  • Oops forgive me I guess I didn't read the full post. *Gonk*

    I thought it was only a screen related problem, must just be a bad cartridge port?
  • I really have no idea what the problem may be. Since the system doesn't begin it's boot sequence (scrolling Nintendo text and two note sound), I don't think it's a bad cartridge port. With no cartridge inserted, the text is instead a black bar, to signify no cartridge is present (if there's a cartridge but the data is bad, the text will be distorted). Could somebody here direct me to some information about how the Game Boy first boots up? Maybe there's a component or section of the board that has been damaged that causes this problem...



    Now I wish NintendoAge was more like Neo-Geo.com, at least over there they go to insane lengths to fix things and in the process, learn greater things about their hardware.
  • It's all online, people here just don't put it together. How about checking the power lines and see if there's a CPU clock first.
  • On Neo-Geo.com, there's always people around who know very detailed things about the Neo-Geo, especially MVS hardware. Here, there's so far only been two people who have replied and only one of them had technical advice. Just sayin...



    Those things I can do. I'll see if the power connections are okay. There's a small DC converter board inside the Game Boy, so it shouldn't be hard to do testing. Since the speaker makes a usual pop when the power comes on, the LED lights up and I can hear noise through the headphone jack, I think it's safe to say there's power making it to most parts of the system. The clock is a good suggestion, I'll look into that. It's usually a clock oscillator, right?



    Hmm, considering how beat up this system was, maybe it's not a strange idea that the clock oscillator could have gone bad. Seems everywhere it says they can become damaged when subjected to physical shock. Thanks 3Gen.
  • Maybe because there's a whole site dedicated to NES and just other systems in general for hardware questions? Try NESDev for that if you want the insane details. I'm not that big of a volts and amps kinda guy, just logic of it. Sorry.
  • Guntz, what most people here will tell you is that an original gameboy isn't worth fixing because they're cheap enough to get if parts are required to fix it. While it sucks in that manner, it's generally true. Aside from that, there don't seem to be many people (aside from maybe 2 or 3 people) that actually know the gameboy hardware and tech info to be able to help you.



    It could be anything from a bad trace, to a loose cable. Wish you tested it first to see if it worked, but it could be something that's just beyond normal repairs. Good luck
  • Originally posted by: Guntz

     With no cartridge inserted, the text is instead a black bar, to signify no cartridge is present (

    Are you saying your GB boots up like that with no cart? Or are you just saying that's what GBs should do in general?
  • @3Gen: Yeah, sounds like I may need to make an account at NESDev, since most of my questions seem to be beyond the scope of this site. I appreciate the help I've had around here though! (just seems kind of odd since this place has a dedicated homebrew section)



    @dra600n: Yes, I'm well aware of that too common response. I've been told the same about GameCubes. Well unfortunately, in my situation, buying another isn't really an option. Local availability is poor and shipping costs negate any possible deals I may find (shipping to Canada sucks). Besides, I enjoy fixing things, even if they're worthless. Recently I installed a new laser assembly in a GameCube who's laser had since been long dead. It works better than any of my other Cubes and the laser cost less than replacement Cube, if I were to buy one. This Game Boy wasn't a pretty sight, but I enjoy turning trash into treasure, so I've held onto it. Besides, fixing obscure problems means more knowledge, and knowledge is power.



    @MrMiniMog: No, my Game Boy doesn't display anything, nor does it make a sound, cartridge or no cartridge (hence why I think this is a logic failure). Yes, I'm saying all Game Boys do that, both the original and Pocket (Color and so on use newer hardware). No cartridge = black bar instead of text. Bad cartridge = distorted text. All systems go = undistorted text, clearly says "Nintendo".



    These repairs would be easier to accomplish if I had the right tools, like maybe a logic probe. A multimeter isn't very effective in a complex circuit, since lots of things are connected to each other. That tool also can't tell you if components have gone bad or not. Clock oscillators aren't very expensive anyways, I'll just go buy a new one of the same spec as this one (maybe two, one for this GB and the other for my Super Game Boy).
  • Hopefully you figure it out man. Shipping to Canada does suck lol. 1 game costs like, $7 to ship, so I can only imagine a gameboy would be around $12 or more. Nice to hear about the GC.
  • Thanks, I appreciate the positive support. At the moment I'm looking at getting a second Turbo Grafx-16, but the shipping is $28 (the guy earlier made a rough estimate at $33!). He did say any games would go in with no added shipping cost though. Canada Post's rates are ridiculous... But at least it's not in severe debt like USPS I guess.



    If and when I figure out what's ailing this Game Boy (clock oscillator is a great place to start), I'll definitely be buying a new battery cover and screen bezel for it. One less Game Boy in the trash, so you all can continue to enjoy your dirt cheap selling rates.
  • Well, I finally got some clock oscillators of the right speed in today. I removed the old oscillator and installed the new one. I'm happy to say my Game Boy is working again, boot code loads and the game works too. The oscillator was indeed the culprit.



    Now I have another problem, I have zero response from the LCD screen. The contrast dial does nothing. I'm thinking it's more than just dead vertical lines or something, since the whole LCD screen isn't working. Can anybody recommend me some repair guides? I've looked around and have found nothing useful.
  • Does the backlight power up? Is there voltage on the LCD driver chip? I'd check those. And good to hear you're getting SOME life out of it now. Worse comes to worse, you can send it to bunny and get $10 of store cred.
  • Yeah, he'd probably appreciate a donor GB board, but I'd at least like to see this one working before I let it become a Retrovision.



    What do you mean by backlight? The original Game Boy barely has anything on it's screen, let alone a backlight. Also, where might the driver chip be located?



    I don't think the white ribbon cable is the problem, since the LED and speaker work. Only problem is the LCD, I figure it's not getting any power.
  • Ah, I was thinkinging it worked like the HD44780 displays I mess with but you're right, no backlight. But just check to make sure it's even getting power. That's all I can think of. Maybe instead of the data lines it's the power line that's broken.
  • Without a pinout though, it'd be hard to figure out the problem. Besides, it's hard to get at the white ribbon cable on the LCD board, it goes under the screen.



    Maybe if I found the LCD voltage line and just ran a wire from the motherboard to supply power, that would work?
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