I won an eBay auction on Sunday and paid with Paypal using the eBay mobile app. The payment submitted but it is showing in Paypal as "unclaimed." I've never seen that happen before. Does the seller need to work with Paypal to get his money? Or do I need to cancel and resubmit the payment? I wrote the seller on Monday to check to see if it is something he needs to correct and I haven't gotten a reply.
Of course this is from a zero feedback seller and I won it for a really great price because it was listed poorly. I'm figuring this is going to take either a ton of effort to get right with the seller or fall through completely. We'll see.
This happened to me once. I won a lot of three Nintendo DS consoles for $30, it was listed like crap and no description. The payment didn't go through and the person played dumb with me for two weeks before they stopped replying altogether. Now it shows on MY end as an "unpaid item", though my account never got a penalty for that.
In my case, I think they somehow figured out how to prevent the payment from going through, so they could not go through with the sale. I even called eBay and they thanked me for trying to educate a new seller, because that's what I had to do to try and get the item.
Funny how being a buyer on eBay sucks almost as much as being a seller...
To that last staement? You cant be serious.
As a seller, I run into problems more often than as a buyer. But when a problem happens that doesn't have an obvious solution, it's a hassle to resolve even as a buyer. eBay has just got very poor dispute resolution protocol. They do side with the buyer 99% of the time, but the quality of how they deal with problems sucks across the board.
If your policy indicates that you pay for return shipping, then you will be charged for return shipping. Otherwise, the responsibility for return shipping charge is determined by the reason the buyer chooses when requesting a return. If your buyer indicates they are returning an item because they changed their mind, they are responsible for return shipping. However, if the buyer requests a return because there’s a problem with the item or the item is not as described, then you will be responsible for return shipping. This policy applies to all transactions on ebay.com for domestic and international buyers.
So much hate for Ebay right now. Buyers are going to abuse the system so much.
I won an eBay auction on Sunday and paid with Paypal using the eBay mobile app. The payment submitted but it is showing in Paypal as "unclaimed." I've never seen that happen before. Does the seller need to work with Paypal to get his money? Or do I need to cancel and resubmit the payment? I wrote the seller on Monday to check to see if it is something he needs to correct and I haven't gotten a reply.
Of course this is from a zero feedback seller and I won it for a really great price because it was listed poorly. I'm figuring this is going to take either a ton of effort to get right with the seller or fall through completely. We'll see.
A follow-up to this situation from last week...
The seller finally writes me back almost a week after the auction ended asking me to reverse my payment because he sold it to someone else and forgot to end the auction. Ugh, why would you list something as an auction - with a low starting price, mind you - and then back out of the deal when I had bid on the auction from the very beginning? Actually, it was probably because he was upset with the ending price, if I had to guess. It's not my fault the seller listed it poorly!
I've never left a seller neutral or negative feedback before but I'm really thinking about it this time.
Now paypal will be extending buyer claims from 45 days to 180 days. So now someone can open a paypal dispute against you 6 months down the line. just great
First off. Ebay doesnt even keep record of your sales past 90 days. and im pretty sure usps tracking wont be loaded for 180 days. So basically we are screwed for not received claims.
just checked paypal history. It looks like USPS keeps their tracking uploaded for 180 days or paypal does? If someone opens a case on the last day and you dont know you are boned because the delivery confirmation is gone. You need to be very vigilant on cases opened. Screenshot it the second the case is opened. This is a huge deal on paypal now. My god 180 days is an eternity. Buy something in June and return it in effing December saying it doesnt work?
Also now you will have no proof on ebay of what your item looked like because the listing will be gone after 90 days. Jesus.
and paypal has the gall to talk about apple pay, in their ad said "apple pay is as safe as your selfies". Um paypal you got hacked this year STFU
Now paypal will be extending buyer claims from 45 days to 180 days. So now someone can open a paypal dispute against you 6 months down the line. just great
First off. Ebay doesnt even keep record of your sales past 90 days. and im pretty sure usps tracking wont be loaded for 180 days. So basically we are screwed for not received claims.
just checked paypal history. It looks like USPS keeps their tracking uploaded for 180 days or paypal does? If someone opens a case on the last day and you dont know you are boned because the delivery confirmation is gone. You need to be very vigilant on cases opened. Screenshot it the second the case is opened. This is a huge deal on paypal now. My god 180 days is an eternity. Buy something in June and return it in effing December saying it doesnt work?
Also now you will have no proof on ebay of what your item looked like because the listing will be gone after 90 days. Jesus.
and paypal has the gall to talk about apple pay, in their ad said "apple pay is as safe as your selfies". Um paypal you got hacked this year STFU
My question is where is the website where we can get together, pull all our listings, and boycott this shit. If paypal doesn't want to back up seller's rights then they need to be hit hard in the pocketbook.
Now paypal will be extending buyer claims from 45 days to 180 days. So now someone can open a paypal dispute against you 6 months down the line. just great
First off. Ebay doesnt even keep record of your sales past 90 days. and im pretty sure usps tracking wont be loaded for 180 days. So basically we are screwed for not received claims.
just checked paypal history. It looks like USPS keeps their tracking uploaded for 180 days or paypal does? If someone opens a case on the last day and you dont know you are boned because the delivery confirmation is gone. You need to be very vigilant on cases opened. Screenshot it the second the case is opened. This is a huge deal on paypal now. My god 180 days is an eternity. Buy something in June and return it in effing December saying it doesnt work?
Also now you will have no proof on ebay of what your item looked like because the listing will be gone after 90 days. Jesus.
and paypal has the gall to talk about apple pay, in their ad said "apple pay is as safe as your selfies". Um paypal you got hacked this year STFU
My question is where is the website where we can get together, pull all our listings, and boycott this shit. If paypal doesn't want to back up seller's rights then they need to be hit hard in the pocketbook.
A lot of people think it's silly, but Etsy. It is far and away the largest selling plaform outside of Amazon and eBay. It has an Alexa rank of about 60 in the US, compared to other eBay-type sites which have ranks in the 1000s. Lots of people think Etsy is just for crafts but they have a huge "vintage" division which covers stuff 20 years old and older. So most 8 and 16 bit stuff. Etsy looks a LOT like eBay did 10 or 15 years ago. I'm considering it, everybody should at least take a look.
I've heard people mention etsy for vintage clothing but I don't think gaming stuff moves fast there. Supposedly becoming one of the best sites for vintage clothing. Problem is etsy is mostly female.
I usually don't post this kind of stuff, but when the F did Final Fantasy VII Green Label get $75.. or shot, any of these games get so much.. People be crazy
My biggest pet peeve with sellers is the lack of communication. I recently spent over $1500 with one seller on ebay and after I completed my purchase, I feel like maybe the next day it's common courtesy to message a buyer and say, "thanks for your ass-load of money. I'm going to ship your stuff out asap so that you become a return customer." NOTHING! I've messaged them three times now with no response, no tracking number update or anything. Items are supposed to get to me by Monday, but I have little faith in this situation. This guy has over 2000 feedback so it's not like this is his first rodeo! Lack of communication gets me so ramped up...
I've heard people mention etsy for vintage clothing but I don't think gaming stuff moves fast there. Supposedly becoming one of the best sites for vintage clothing. Problem is etsy is mostly female.
I've heard people mention etsy for vintage clothing but I don't think gaming stuff moves fast there. Supposedly becoming one of the best sites for vintage clothing. Problem is etsy is mostly female.
I usually don't post this kind of stuff, but when the F did Final Fantasy VII Green Label get $75.. or shot, any of these games get so much.. People be crazy
I usually don't post this kind of stuff, but when the F did Final Fantasy VII Green Label get $75.. or shot, any of these games get so much.. People be crazy
Guy has game for 25.99 obo free shipping. I need it for prize fantasy football league. I offer 23.00. Guy counters at 25.00. Wtf?!?!? Why even have best offer?? .99 cents? Really?
Update: counter 23.50 and ask whats the point of best offer. Seems pointless if you arentbgoing to take less. Person declines and says. " you have yourself a wonderful day" that message just gets under my skin. What a douchebag.
Question: I recently bought a lot of items from a particular seller who had previously listed this lot at a much higher price. I messaged him and asked about buying specific items from the lot rather than the whole thing and he said he wanted to just relist it all. I ended up pulling the trigger and buying it. Before the auction ended I asked several times if the A/C adapter that was in the previous listing came with the auction because they were pictured, but not in the description. The description then states that the items in the pictures are the exact ones being auctioned so there was a discrepancy. The seller never responded until about a week after the auction ended, the items were still not shipped, and he said that the a/c adapter shouldn't be included because of it belonging to the items that he pulled from the previous listing the first time it didn't sell. I then receive a message from him today saying that most likely the girl that handles his ebay stuff for him included the plug with the other items when she packaged it all up. However, she asked him if she should include manuals that went to the other removed items but had still been listed in the description of the listing I purchased and he said no! He then said that he assumed the buyer would know that items in the description that originally went with the items removed from the previous listing would not be included. So he is basically removing items from the listing that I bought after the fact because of his miscommunication with his employee and his laziness in not taking new pictures or editing the description! He said that if I wasn't happy with what I received he would refund me and pay for return shipping, to which I replied I simply wanted him to honor his original listing and not to penalize me as the buyer for his oversight.
As a seller, I always have honored my listings even if I made a mistake and it hurts me in the end. I just don't know why he's being such a Fickle Frank right now. The other issue is that he could be considered a prominent member of the retro gaming community so I figured he would have a bit more integrity than what I am currently experiencing...
So in your opinions, is it ok to remove items from the lot that were shown in the pictures and/or description AFTER the auction has completed and the buyer has paid, simply because you made a mistake with the listing?
If the listing says they are included. they are included. That is bait and switch. The problem with ebay is usually these problems just end up being shipped back to be resolved. How the hell are you supposed to know that their was even a previously listing to begin with. What a douche bag lazy fucker. I hate sellers like that and they ruin ebay for everyone. All these new policies and ridiculous guidelines are because of sellers like that.
If the listing says they are included. they are included. That is bait and switch. The problem with ebay is usually these problems just end up being shipped back to be resolved. How the hell are you supposed to know that their was even a previously listing to begin with. What a douche bag lazy fucker. I hate sellers like that and they ruin ebay for everyone. All these new policies and ridiculous guidelines are because of sellers like that.
Yeah, his last two responses to me were:
"Alright Mike...I see how it is. I could certainly push this to arbitration where eBay would allow me to refund your money and require you to send back my items, but *I* am not that type of person. It's pretty clear now that you saw an inconsistency in the listing and decided to pounce on it. I'm fairly certain you're intelligent enough to understand that the materials that belong to the previous listing would not be included...you chose not to.
I've been buying/selling/collecting/trading videogames for thirty years now and I've dealt with tens of thousands of people in that time. The manuals themselves mean a lot less to me than understanding the type of person I'm doing business with. You'll have your manuals. I will not, however, forget this transaction."
Then I told him I wasn't being malicious because I inquired about the plug and manuals BEFORE the auction ended and nobody got back to me because he was out of town. His response:
"You only asked about the AC adaptor Mike...not the manuals. The AC adaptor has already been shipped to you. The only topic of today's conversation has been the manuals which you did not inquire about.
Though I guess the real question is if I had responded "no" they weren't included, would you have still bid in the auction? I think we both know the answer to that question is "yes" because you know as well as I do that you got a great deal even without the manuals and power supply.
I have multiple sets of these manuals as well as two sealed in the box sets...it's not about the manuals to me. They're probably not worth a whole hell of a lot. It just really bothers me when people have to take maximum advantage of other people's oversights. I'm sure you'll re-sell the game cartridge and get most/all of your money back and you'll end-up with the original item that you wanted for free...but that's not good enough. That's really where the question of motive comes in to play in my mind. It seems like you're cool with your motives...and so am I. I will, however, be 100% certain that there will be zero opportunities for any miscommunication or misinterpretation in a transaction between you and I in the future."
If the listing says they are included. they are included. That is bait and switch. The problem with ebay is usually these problems just end up being shipped back to be resolved. How the hell are you supposed to know that their was even a previously listing to begin with. What a douche bag lazy fucker. I hate sellers like that and they ruin ebay for everyone. All these new policies and ridiculous guidelines are because of sellers like that.
Yeah, his last two responses to me were:
"Alright Mike...I see how it is. I could certainly push this to arbitration where eBay would allow me to refund your money and require you to send back my items, but *I* am not that type of person. It's pretty clear now that you saw an inconsistency in the listing and decided to pounce on it. I'm fairly certain you're intelligent enough to understand that the materials that belong to the previous listing would not be included...you chose not to.
I've been buying/selling/collecting/trading videogames for thirty years now and I've dealt with tens of thousands of people in that time. The manuals themselves mean a lot less to me than understanding the type of person I'm doing business with. You'll have your manuals. I will not, however, forget this transaction."
Then I told him I wasn't being malicious because I inquired about the plug and manuals BEFORE the auction ended and nobody got back to me because he was out of town. His response:
"You only asked about the AC adaptor Mike...not the manuals. The AC adaptor has already been shipped to you. The only topic of today's conversation has been the manuals which you did not inquire about.
Though I guess the real question is if I had responded "no" they weren't included, would you have still bid in the auction? I think we both know the answer to that question is "yes" because you know as well as I do that you got a great deal even without the manuals and power supply.
I have multiple sets of these manuals as well as two sealed in the box sets...it's not about the manuals to me. They're probably not worth a whole hell of a lot. It just really bothers me when people have to take maximum advantage of other people's oversights. I'm sure you'll re-sell the game cartridge and get most/all of your money back and you'll end-up with the original item that you wanted for free...but that's not good enough. That's really where the question of motive comes in to play in my mind. It seems like you're cool with your motives...and so am I. I will, however, be 100% certain that there will be zero opportunities for any miscommunication or misinterpretation in a transaction between you and I in the future."
wow that seller is a douche.
One thing he just said truly pisses me off and has been said before to me when you meet people for stuff and they sold pieces off without telling you. You get the , " hey you are still getting a great deal" ummmmm M******F***** we agreed on something and now you are not living up to it. I dont know how ebay would handle this in an escalation case. That first response was kind of a threat.
do you still have the links to these auctions. first and second? You can pm them to me. Id be interested in not dealing with this person and to see how they listed them.
I don't know, I think you worked over that seller too. In your first message, you said you asked about the AC adapter only, and his response seems to reiterate that. Yet in your second message, you said you asked about the AC adapter and manuals, which you clearly did not.
I've seen all kind of listings over the years where they have pictures of stuff but the description doesn't match up. You always have to ask and get clarification BEFORE BIDDING. You chose to bid before getting a response. You had no idea whether the picture was right or the description was right.
What you should have done, if you insisted on bidding, was withhold payment until the seller got back to you. If they clarified that they were missing, you don't pay, he washes the transaction and that's that. But you chose to pay so you could try and force his hand.
I don't make mistakes in my listings. But I understand how a large volume guy could. And as buyer, whenever I'm confused about a listing, then I don't bid unless I receive clarification. I'm sure the auction went low because of the ambiguity, and now you are basically extorting him in your favor. I don't blame the guy for being short with you, I would have already blocked you and moved on.
If the listing says they are included. they are included. That is bait and switch. The problem with ebay is usually these problems just end up being shipped back to be resolved. How the hell are you supposed to know that their was even a previously listing to begin with. What a douche bag lazy fucker. I hate sellers like that and they ruin ebay for everyone. All these new policies and ridiculous guidelines are because of sellers like that.
Yeah, his last two responses to me were:
"Alright Mike...I see how it is. I could certainly push this to arbitration where eBay would allow me to refund your money and require you to send back my items, but *I* am not that type of person. It's pretty clear now that you saw an inconsistency in the listing and decided to pounce on it. I'm fairly certain you're intelligent enough to understand that the materials that belong to the previous listing would not be included...you chose not to.
I've been buying/selling/collecting/trading videogames for thirty years now and I've dealt with tens of thousands of people in that time. The manuals themselves mean a lot less to me than understanding the type of person I'm doing business with. You'll have your manuals. I will not, however, forget this transaction."
Then I told him I wasn't being malicious because I inquired about the plug and manuals BEFORE the auction ended and nobody got back to me because he was out of town. His response:
"You only asked about the AC adaptor Mike...not the manuals. The AC adaptor has already been shipped to you. The only topic of today's conversation has been the manuals which you did not inquire about.
Though I guess the real question is if I had responded "no" they weren't included, would you have still bid in the auction? I think we both know the answer to that question is "yes" because you know as well as I do that you got a great deal even without the manuals and power supply.
I have multiple sets of these manuals as well as two sealed in the box sets...it's not about the manuals to me. They're probably not worth a whole hell of a lot. It just really bothers me when people have to take maximum advantage of other people's oversights. I'm sure you'll re-sell the game cartridge and get most/all of your money back and you'll end-up with the original item that you wanted for free...but that's not good enough. That's really where the question of motive comes in to play in my mind. It seems like you're cool with your motives...and so am I. I will, however, be 100% certain that there will be zero opportunities for any miscommunication or misinterpretation in a transaction between you and I in the future."
wow that seller is a douche.
One thing he just said truly pisses me off and has been said before to me when you meet people for stuff and they sold pieces off without telling you. You get the , " hey you are still getting a great deal" ummmmm M******F***** we agreed on something and now you are not living up to it. I dont know how ebay would handle this in an escalation case. That first response was kind of a threat.
Seriously! The guy told me that he was out of town at the gaming expo in Vegas and then had other business to take care of, which I corroborated with other internet articles I found that mentioned his name, so I figured that he was an upstanding guy. I almost would want to take it to arbitration because I feel like I have a solid case. Until then, I'll just be biting my nails hoping all my stuff arrives as expected!
I don't know, I think you worked over that seller too. In your first message, you said you asked about the AC adapter only, and his response seems to reiterate that. Yet in your second message, you said you asked about the AC adapter and manuals, which you clearly did not.
I've seen all kind of listings over the years where they have pictures of stuff but the description doesn't match up. You always have to ask and get clarification BEFORE BIDDING. You chose to bid before getting a response. You had no idea whether the picture was right or the description was right.
What you should have done, if you insisted on bidding, was withhold payment until the seller got back to you. If they clarified that they were missing, you don't pay, he washes the transaction and that's that. But you chose to pay so you could try and force his hand.
I don't make mistakes in my listings. But I understand how a large volume guy could. And as buyer, whenever I'm confused about a listing, then I don't bid unless I receive clarification. I'm sure the auction went low because of the ambiguity, and now you are basically extorting him in your favor. I don't blame the guy for being short with you, I would have already blocked you and moved on.
I bid because I didn't want to lose the items. I would have felt terrible if someone else snagged them because of my hesitance. I didn't inquire about the manuals because I didn't think I had to because they were explicitly stated in the description. The seller had removed the a/c adapter from the description but not the pictures, that's what I messaged him about.
I also don't make mistakes in my listings, which is why if I do, I expect to deal with the consequences of making it right. I have certainly lost money on listings because I misquoted shipping or made an error in the description, but instead of complaining about it and threatening my buyers, I just dealt with it and learned from my mistakes because it was my responsibility to make sure my listings were correct.
As far as him being a large volume guy, he only has 14 other items for sale right now so I don't see how he could be so overwhelmed as to not double-check a listing he was asking well over $1000 for. In the future I will probably take your advice and withold payment if there are outstanding questions. As far as blocking me, that would be a personal choice on the sellers part that I wouldn't have control over. It's sad that I had to be so persistent with getting the items listed and it's sad that he took me to be taking advantage of him. I didn't mean to come off as a jerk, but I guess that's what happened. The buyer/seller relationship seems to be erroding more and more every day because of miscommunications. I'd like to think if this was a person to person transaction it would have worked out differently.
He did offer to make it right. He said send it back for a full refund and he'd pay your return shipping. And so far every excuse he's given you has sounded legit... he was out of town, hence why he didn't ship for a week. He has someone else work his stuff for him, hence how there could be a discrepancy.
Maybe just show the listings so we can assess the situation fully, rather than hearing your biased one side of the story. It sounds like there is every reason for you to leave a negative since he hasn't been an upstanding seller, but you also sound like an equally annoying buyer. It sounds like you are trying to force a deal based on semantics, when most people could have logically inferred what was or wasn't included. And once again, if there's any confusion, perhaps you shouldn't bid in the first place. You were willing to give your business to a seller who A) Didn't list properly and Couldn't communicate. You knew this was going to be a bad transaction before you even entered it, yet you decided against your best judgement to hope to force him into a deal.
Guy has game for 25.99 obo free shipping. I need it for prize fantasy football league. I offer 23.00. Guy counters at 25.00. Wtf?!?!? Why even have best offer?? .99 cents? Really? Update: counter 23.50 and ask whats the point of best offer. Seems pointless if you arentbgoing to take less. Person declines and says. " you have yourself a wonderful day" that message just gets under my skin. What a douchebag.
WOW!!!! That dude is a DBAG!!!!! I hate when sellers do that, Shot if it was me and you offered me $23.00 SOLD easy.. Wow.. people sometimes
If the listing says they are included. they are included. That is bait and switch. The problem with ebay is usually these problems just end up being shipped back to be resolved. How the hell are you supposed to know that their was even a previously listing to begin with. What a douche bag lazy fucker. I hate sellers like that and they ruin ebay for everyone. All these new policies and ridiculous guidelines are because of sellers like that.
Yeah, his last two responses to me were:
"Alright Mike...I see how it is. I could certainly push this to arbitration where eBay would allow me to refund your money and require you to send back my items, but *I* am not that type of person. It's pretty clear now that you saw an inconsistency in the listing and decided to pounce on it. I'm fairly certain you're intelligent enough to understand that the materials that belong to the previous listing would not be included...you chose not to.
I've been buying/selling/collecting/trading videogames for thirty years now and I've dealt with tens of thousands of people in that time. The manuals themselves mean a lot less to me than understanding the type of person I'm doing business with. You'll have your manuals. I will not, however, forget this transaction."
Then I told him I wasn't being malicious because I inquired about the plug and manuals BEFORE the auction ended and nobody got back to me because he was out of town. His response:
"You only asked about the AC adaptor Mike...not the manuals. The AC adaptor has already been shipped to you. The only topic of today's conversation has been the manuals which you did not inquire about.
Though I guess the real question is if I had responded "no" they weren't included, would you have still bid in the auction? I think we both know the answer to that question is "yes" because you know as well as I do that you got a great deal even without the manuals and power supply.
I have multiple sets of these manuals as well as two sealed in the box sets...it's not about the manuals to me. They're probably not worth a whole hell of a lot. It just really bothers me when people have to take maximum advantage of other people's oversights. I'm sure you'll re-sell the game cartridge and get most/all of your money back and you'll end-up with the original item that you wanted for free...but that's not good enough. That's really where the question of motive comes in to play in my mind. It seems like you're cool with your motives...and so am I. I will, however, be 100% certain that there will be zero opportunities for any miscommunication or misinterpretation in a transaction between you and I in the future."
wow that seller is a douche.
One thing he just said truly pisses me off and has been said before to me when you meet people for stuff and they sold pieces off without telling you. You get the , " hey you are still getting a great deal" ummmmm M******F***** we agreed on something and now you are not living up to it. I dont know how ebay would handle this in an escalation case. That first response was kind of a threat.
do you still have the links to these auctions. first and second? You can pm them to me. Id be interested in not dealing with this person and to see how they listed them.
He did offer to make it right. He said send it back for a full refund and he'd pay your return shipping. And so far every excuse he's given you has sounded legit... he was out of town, hence why he didn't ship for a week. He has someone else work his stuff for him, hence how there could be a discrepancy.
Maybe just show the listings so we can assess the situation fully, rather than hearing your biased one side of the story. It sounds like there is every reason for you to leave a negative since he hasn't been an upstanding seller, but you also sound like an equally annoying buyer. It sounds like you are trying to force a deal based on semantics, when most people could have logically inferred what was or wasn't included. And once again, if there's any confusion, perhaps you shouldn't bid in the first place. You were willing to give your business to a seller who A) Didn't list properly and Couldn't communicate. You knew this was going to be a bad transaction before you even entered it, yet you decided against your best judgement to hope to force him into a deal.
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Originally posted by: quest4nes
Originally posted by: 85collector
Originally posted by: arnpoly
I need some advice with a sort of a rant.
I won an eBay auction on Sunday and paid with Paypal using the eBay mobile app. The payment submitted but it is showing in Paypal as "unclaimed." I've never seen that happen before. Does the seller need to work with Paypal to get his money? Or do I need to cancel and resubmit the payment? I wrote the seller on Monday to check to see if it is something he needs to correct and I haven't gotten a reply.
Of course this is from a zero feedback seller and I won it for a really great price because it was listed poorly. I'm figuring this is going to take either a ton of effort to get right with the seller or fall through completely. We'll see.
This happened to me once. I won a lot of three Nintendo DS consoles for $30, it was listed like crap and no description. The payment didn't go through and the person played dumb with me for two weeks before they stopped replying altogether. Now it shows on MY end as an "unpaid item", though my account never got a penalty for that.
In my case, I think they somehow figured out how to prevent the payment from going through, so they could not go through with the sale. I even called eBay and they thanked me for trying to educate a new seller, because that's what I had to do to try and get the item.
Funny how being a buyer on eBay sucks almost as much as being a seller...
To that last staement? You cant be serious.
As a seller, I run into problems more often than as a buyer. But when a problem happens that doesn't have an obvious solution, it's a hassle to resolve even as a buyer. eBay has just got very poor dispute resolution protocol. They do side with the buyer 99% of the time, but the quality of how they deal with problems sucks across the board.
really bothers me that ppl are selling those smash bros 3ds demo codes on NA
if its on ebay ok fine, but here..... really?
My respect for the seller/member here goes down the drain
Originally posted by: punkr13
little rant:
really bothers me that ppl are selling those smash bros 3ds demo codes on NA
if its on ebay ok fine, but here..... really?
My respect for the seller/member here goes down the drain
The sales on eBay even bug me a little.. what bugs me more is people (or at least one person) have paid $30.. for a demo..
Edit: Christ on a cracker.. just re-checked the sold listings.. this is unbelievable (well maybe not... but damn it still irks me)
If your policy indicates that you pay for return shipping, then you will be charged for return shipping. Otherwise, the responsibility for return shipping charge is determined by the reason the buyer chooses when requesting a return. If your buyer indicates they are returning an item because they changed their mind, they are responsible for return shipping. However, if the buyer requests a return because there’s a problem with the item or the item is not as described, then you will be responsible for return shipping. This policy applies to all transactions on ebay.com for domestic and international buyers.
So much hate for Ebay right now. Buyers are going to abuse the system so much.
Originally posted by: arnpoly
I need some advice with a sort of a rant.
I won an eBay auction on Sunday and paid with Paypal using the eBay mobile app. The payment submitted but it is showing in Paypal as "unclaimed." I've never seen that happen before. Does the seller need to work with Paypal to get his money? Or do I need to cancel and resubmit the payment? I wrote the seller on Monday to check to see if it is something he needs to correct and I haven't gotten a reply.
Of course this is from a zero feedback seller and I won it for a really great price because it was listed poorly. I'm figuring this is going to take either a ton of effort to get right with the seller or fall through completely. We'll see.
A follow-up to this situation from last week...
The seller finally writes me back almost a week after the auction ended asking me to reverse my payment because he sold it to someone else and forgot to end the auction. Ugh, why would you list something as an auction - with a low starting price, mind you - and then back out of the deal when I had bid on the auction from the very beginning? Actually, it was probably because he was upset with the ending price, if I had to guess. It's not my fault the seller listed it poorly!
I've never left a seller neutral or negative feedback before but I'm really thinking about it this time.
First off. Ebay doesnt even keep record of your sales past 90 days. and im pretty sure usps tracking wont be loaded for 180 days. So basically we are screwed for not received claims.
just checked paypal history. It looks like USPS keeps their tracking uploaded for 180 days or paypal does? If someone opens a case on the last day and you dont know you are boned because the delivery confirmation is gone. You need to be very vigilant on cases opened. Screenshot it the second the case is opened. This is a huge deal on paypal now. My god 180 days is an eternity. Buy something in June and return it in effing December saying it doesnt work?
Also now you will have no proof on ebay of what your item looked like because the listing will be gone after 90 days. Jesus.
and paypal has the gall to talk about apple pay, in their ad said "apple pay is as safe as your selfies". Um paypal you got hacked this year STFU
Originally posted by: quest4nes
Now paypal will be extending buyer claims from 45 days to 180 days. So now someone can open a paypal dispute against you 6 months down the line. just great
First off. Ebay doesnt even keep record of your sales past 90 days. and im pretty sure usps tracking wont be loaded for 180 days. So basically we are screwed for not received claims.
just checked paypal history. It looks like USPS keeps their tracking uploaded for 180 days or paypal does? If someone opens a case on the last day and you dont know you are boned because the delivery confirmation is gone. You need to be very vigilant on cases opened. Screenshot it the second the case is opened. This is a huge deal on paypal now. My god 180 days is an eternity. Buy something in June and return it in effing December saying it doesnt work?
Also now you will have no proof on ebay of what your item looked like because the listing will be gone after 90 days. Jesus.
and paypal has the gall to talk about apple pay, in their ad said "apple pay is as safe as your selfies". Um paypal you got hacked this year STFU
My question is where is the website where we can get together, pull all our listings, and boycott this shit. If paypal doesn't want to back up seller's rights then they need to be hit hard in the pocketbook.
Originally posted by: Indigo_Streetlight
Originally posted by: quest4nes
Now paypal will be extending buyer claims from 45 days to 180 days. So now someone can open a paypal dispute against you 6 months down the line. just great
First off. Ebay doesnt even keep record of your sales past 90 days. and im pretty sure usps tracking wont be loaded for 180 days. So basically we are screwed for not received claims.
just checked paypal history. It looks like USPS keeps their tracking uploaded for 180 days or paypal does? If someone opens a case on the last day and you dont know you are boned because the delivery confirmation is gone. You need to be very vigilant on cases opened. Screenshot it the second the case is opened. This is a huge deal on paypal now. My god 180 days is an eternity. Buy something in June and return it in effing December saying it doesnt work?
Also now you will have no proof on ebay of what your item looked like because the listing will be gone after 90 days. Jesus.
and paypal has the gall to talk about apple pay, in their ad said "apple pay is as safe as your selfies". Um paypal you got hacked this year STFU
My question is where is the website where we can get together, pull all our listings, and boycott this shit. If paypal doesn't want to back up seller's rights then they need to be hit hard in the pocketbook.
A lot of people think it's silly, but Etsy. It is far and away the largest selling plaform outside of Amazon and eBay. It has an Alexa rank of about 60 in the US, compared to other eBay-type sites which have ranks in the 1000s. Lots of people think Etsy is just for crafts but they have a huge "vintage" division which covers stuff 20 years old and older. So most 8 and 16 bit stuff. Etsy looks a LOT like eBay did 10 or 15 years ago. I'm considering it, everybody should at least take a look.
http://lexington.craigslist.org/vgm/4674277732.html
Originally posted by: TiKi
I've heard people mention etsy for vintage clothing but I don't think gaming stuff moves fast there. Supposedly becoming one of the best sites for vintage clothing. Problem is etsy is mostly female.
Originally posted by: theirontoupee
Originally posted by: TiKi
I've heard people mention etsy for vintage clothing but I don't think gaming stuff moves fast there. Supposedly becoming one of the best sites for vintage clothing. Problem is etsy is mostly female.
His poor father...
ok so I sell on amazon and tonight i get this message from a buyer:
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I am impressed with this product but it pilled off and ripped and it says I have a lifetime warranty so I was wondering how I got a replacement?
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This person bought a GBA white from me on march 28th, delivered on april 3rd...
I happy that it's over 2months back but, wtf???
I replied to the buyer with "i don't fully understand your question"
because i really don't.... life time warranty?
eh..... another headache when selling online
Originally posted by: Bsavage2006
I usually don't post this kind of stuff, but when the F did Final Fantasy VII Green Label get $75.. or shot, any of these games get so much.. People be crazy
http://lexington.craigslist.org/v...
People don't know values, they just know titles.
"OMG I REMEMBER THIS GAME! SOOOO GOOD.. which means... SOOO EXPENSIVE!"
Originally posted by: mattplex
Originally posted by: Bsavage2006
I usually don't post this kind of stuff, but when the F did Final Fantasy VII Green Label get $75.. or shot, any of these games get so much.. People be crazy
http://lexington.craigslist.org/vgm/4674277732.html
People don't know values, they just know titles.
"OMG I REMEMBER THIS GAME! SOOOO GOOD.. which means... SOOO EXPENSIVE!"
Yup and sadly its usually the other way around.. Like OMG IT"S SOOOOOO BAD, which means it cost more then my house payment.
Guy has game for 25.99 obo free shipping. I need it for prize fantasy football league. I offer 23.00. Guy counters at 25.00. Wtf?!?!? Why even have best offer?? .99 cents? Really?
Update: counter 23.50 and ask whats the point of best offer. Seems pointless if you arentbgoing to take less. Person declines and says. " you have yourself a wonderful day" that message just gets under my skin. What a douchebag.
As a seller, I always have honored my listings even if I made a mistake and it hurts me in the end. I just don't know why he's being such a Fickle Frank right now. The other issue is that he could be considered a prominent member of the retro gaming community so I figured he would have a bit more integrity than what I am currently experiencing...
So in your opinions, is it ok to remove items from the lot that were shown in the pictures and/or description AFTER the auction has completed and the buyer has paid, simply because you made a mistake with the listing?
Originally posted by: quest4nes
If the listing says they are included. they are included. That is bait and switch. The problem with ebay is usually these problems just end up being shipped back to be resolved. How the hell are you supposed to know that their was even a previously listing to begin with. What a douche bag lazy fucker. I hate sellers like that and they ruin ebay for everyone. All these new policies and ridiculous guidelines are because of sellers like that.
Yeah, his last two responses to me were:
"Alright Mike...I see how it is. I could certainly push this to arbitration where eBay would allow me to refund your money and require you to send back my items, but *I* am not that type of person. It's pretty clear now that you saw an inconsistency in the listing and decided to pounce on it. I'm fairly certain you're intelligent enough to understand that the materials that belong to the previous listing would not be included...you chose not to.
I've been buying/selling/collecting/
Then I told him I wasn't being malicious because I inquired about the plug and manuals BEFORE the auction ended and nobody got back to me because he was out of town. His response:
"You only asked about the AC adaptor Mike...not the manuals. The AC adaptor has already been shipped to you. The only topic of today's conversation has been the manuals which you did not inquire about.
Though I guess the real question is if I had responded "no" they weren't included, would you have still bid in the auction? I think we both know the answer to that question is "yes" because you know as well as I do that you got a great deal even without the manuals and power supply.
I have multiple sets of these manuals as well as two sealed in the box sets...it's not about the manuals to me. They're probably not worth a whole hell of a lot. It just really bothers me when people have to take maximum advantage of other people's oversights. I'm sure you'll re-sell the game cartridge and get most/all of your money back and you'll end-up with the original item that you wanted for free...but that's not good enough. That's really where the question of motive comes in to play in my mind. It seems like you're cool with your motives...and so am I. I will, however, be 100% certain that there will be zero opportunities for any miscommunication or misinterpretation in a transaction between you and I in the future."
Originally posted by: theirontoupee
Originally posted by: quest4nes
If the listing says they are included. they are included. That is bait and switch. The problem with ebay is usually these problems just end up being shipped back to be resolved. How the hell are you supposed to know that their was even a previously listing to begin with. What a douche bag lazy fucker. I hate sellers like that and they ruin ebay for everyone. All these new policies and ridiculous guidelines are because of sellers like that.
Yeah, his last two responses to me were:
"Alright Mike...I see how it is. I could certainly push this to arbitration where eBay would allow me to refund your money and require you to send back my items, but *I* am not that type of person. It's pretty clear now that you saw an inconsistency in the listing and decided to pounce on it. I'm fairly certain you're intelligent enough to understand that the materials that belong to the previous listing would not be included...you chose not to.
I've been buying/selling/collecting/
Then I told him I wasn't being malicious because I inquired about the plug and manuals BEFORE the auction ended and nobody got back to me because he was out of town. His response:
"You only asked about the AC adaptor Mike...not the manuals. The AC adaptor has already been shipped to you. The only topic of today's conversation has been the manuals which you did not inquire about.
Though I guess the real question is if I had responded "no" they weren't included, would you have still bid in the auction? I think we both know the answer to that question is "yes" because you know as well as I do that you got a great deal even without the manuals and power supply.
I have multiple sets of these manuals as well as two sealed in the box sets...it's not about the manuals to me. They're probably not worth a whole hell of a lot. It just really bothers me when people have to take maximum advantage of other people's oversights. I'm sure you'll re-sell the game cartridge and get most/all of your money back and you'll end-up with the original item that you wanted for free...but that's not good enough. That's really where the question of motive comes in to play in my mind. It seems like you're cool with your motives...and so am I. I will, however, be 100% certain that there will be zero opportunities for any miscommunication or misinterpretation in a transaction between you and I in the future."
wow that seller is a douche.
One thing he just said truly pisses me off and has been said before to me when you meet people for stuff and they sold pieces off without telling you. You get the , " hey you are still getting a great deal" ummmmm M******F***** we agreed on something and now you are not living up to it. I dont know how ebay would handle this in an escalation case. That first response was kind of a threat.
do you still have the links to these auctions. first and second? You can pm them to me. Id be interested in not dealing with this person and to see how they listed them.
I've seen all kind of listings over the years where they have pictures of stuff but the description doesn't match up. You always have to ask and get clarification BEFORE BIDDING. You chose to bid before getting a response. You had no idea whether the picture was right or the description was right.
What you should have done, if you insisted on bidding, was withhold payment until the seller got back to you. If they clarified that they were missing, you don't pay, he washes the transaction and that's that. But you chose to pay so you could try and force his hand.
I don't make mistakes in my listings. But I understand how a large volume guy could. And as buyer, whenever I'm confused about a listing, then I don't bid unless I receive clarification. I'm sure the auction went low because of the ambiguity, and now you are basically extorting him in your favor. I don't blame the guy for being short with you, I would have already blocked you and moved on.
Originally posted by: quest4nes
Originally posted by: theirontoupee
Originally posted by: quest4nes
If the listing says they are included. they are included. That is bait and switch. The problem with ebay is usually these problems just end up being shipped back to be resolved. How the hell are you supposed to know that their was even a previously listing to begin with. What a douche bag lazy fucker. I hate sellers like that and they ruin ebay for everyone. All these new policies and ridiculous guidelines are because of sellers like that.
Yeah, his last two responses to me were:
"Alright Mike...I see how it is. I could certainly push this to arbitration where eBay would allow me to refund your money and require you to send back my items, but *I* am not that type of person. It's pretty clear now that you saw an inconsistency in the listing and decided to pounce on it. I'm fairly certain you're intelligent enough to understand that the materials that belong to the previous listing would not be included...you chose not to.
I've been buying/selling/collecting/
Then I told him I wasn't being malicious because I inquired about the plug and manuals BEFORE the auction ended and nobody got back to me because he was out of town. His response:
"You only asked about the AC adaptor Mike...not the manuals. The AC adaptor has already been shipped to you. The only topic of today's conversation has been the manuals which you did not inquire about.
Though I guess the real question is if I had responded "no" they weren't included, would you have still bid in the auction? I think we both know the answer to that question is "yes" because you know as well as I do that you got a great deal even without the manuals and power supply.
I have multiple sets of these manuals as well as two sealed in the box sets...it's not about the manuals to me. They're probably not worth a whole hell of a lot. It just really bothers me when people have to take maximum advantage of other people's oversights. I'm sure you'll re-sell the game cartridge and get most/all of your money back and you'll end-up with the original item that you wanted for free...but that's not good enough. That's really where the question of motive comes in to play in my mind. It seems like you're cool with your motives...and so am I. I will, however, be 100% certain that there will be zero opportunities for any miscommunication or misinterpretation in a transaction between you and I in the future."
wow that seller is a douche.
One thing he just said truly pisses me off and has been said before to me when you meet people for stuff and they sold pieces off without telling you. You get the , " hey you are still getting a great deal" ummmmm M******F***** we agreed on something and now you are not living up to it. I dont know how ebay would handle this in an escalation case. That first response was kind of a threat.
Seriously! The guy told me that he was out of town at the gaming expo in Vegas and then had other business to take care of, which I corroborated with other internet articles I found that mentioned his name, so I figured that he was an upstanding guy. I almost would want to take it to arbitration because I feel like I have a solid case. Until then, I'll just be biting my nails hoping all my stuff arrives as expected!
Originally posted by: jonebone
I don't know, I think you worked over that seller too. In your first message, you said you asked about the AC adapter only, and his response seems to reiterate that. Yet in your second message, you said you asked about the AC adapter and manuals, which you clearly did not.
I've seen all kind of listings over the years where they have pictures of stuff but the description doesn't match up. You always have to ask and get clarification BEFORE BIDDING. You chose to bid before getting a response. You had no idea whether the picture was right or the description was right.
What you should have done, if you insisted on bidding, was withhold payment until the seller got back to you. If they clarified that they were missing, you don't pay, he washes the transaction and that's that. But you chose to pay so you could try and force his hand.
I don't make mistakes in my listings. But I understand how a large volume guy could. And as buyer, whenever I'm confused about a listing, then I don't bid unless I receive clarification. I'm sure the auction went low because of the ambiguity, and now you are basically extorting him in your favor. I don't blame the guy for being short with you, I would have already blocked you and moved on.
I bid because I didn't want to lose the items. I would have felt terrible if someone else snagged them because of my hesitance. I didn't inquire about the manuals because I didn't think I had to because they were explicitly stated in the description. The seller had removed the a/c adapter from the description but not the pictures, that's what I messaged him about.
I also don't make mistakes in my listings, which is why if I do, I expect to deal with the consequences of making it right. I have certainly lost money on listings because I misquoted shipping or made an error in the description, but instead of complaining about it and threatening my buyers, I just dealt with it and learned from my mistakes because it was my responsibility to make sure my listings were correct.
As far as him being a large volume guy, he only has 14 other items for sale right now so I don't see how he could be so overwhelmed as to not double-check a listing he was asking well over $1000 for. In the future I will probably take your advice and withold payment if there are outstanding questions. As far as blocking me, that would be a personal choice on the sellers part that I wouldn't have control over. It's sad that I had to be so persistent with getting the items listed and it's sad that he took me to be taking advantage of him. I didn't mean to come off as a jerk, but I guess that's what happened. The buyer/seller relationship seems to be erroding more and more every day because of miscommunications. I'd like to think if this was a person to person transaction it would have worked out differently.
Maybe just show the listings so we can assess the situation fully, rather than hearing your biased one side of the story. It sounds like there is every reason for you to leave a negative since he hasn't been an upstanding seller, but you also sound like an equally annoying buyer. It sounds like you are trying to force a deal based on semantics, when most people could have logically inferred what was or wasn't included. And once again, if there's any confusion, perhaps you shouldn't bid in the first place. You were willing to give your business to a seller who A) Didn't list properly and
Originally posted by: quest4nes
Nothing new just annoyed.
Guy has game for 25.99 obo free shipping. I need it for prize fantasy football league. I offer 23.00. Guy counters at 25.00. Wtf?!?!? Why even have best offer?? .99 cents? Really? Update: counter 23.50 and ask whats the point of best offer. Seems pointless if you arentbgoing to take less. Person declines and says. " you have yourself a wonderful day" that message just gets under my skin. What a douchebag.
WOW!!!! That dude is a DBAG!!!!! I hate when sellers do that, Shot if it was me and you offered me $23.00 SOLD easy.. Wow.. people sometimes
Originally posted by: quest4nes
Originally posted by: theirontoupee
Originally posted by: quest4nes
If the listing says they are included. they are included. That is bait and switch. The problem with ebay is usually these problems just end up being shipped back to be resolved. How the hell are you supposed to know that their was even a previously listing to begin with. What a douche bag lazy fucker. I hate sellers like that and they ruin ebay for everyone. All these new policies and ridiculous guidelines are because of sellers like that.
Yeah, his last two responses to me were:
"Alright Mike...I see how it is. I could certainly push this to arbitration where eBay would allow me to refund your money and require you to send back my items, but *I* am not that type of person. It's pretty clear now that you saw an inconsistency in the listing and decided to pounce on it. I'm fairly certain you're intelligent enough to understand that the materials that belong to the previous listing would not be included...you chose not to.
I've been buying/selling/collecting/
Then I told him I wasn't being malicious because I inquired about the plug and manuals BEFORE the auction ended and nobody got back to me because he was out of town. His response:
"You only asked about the AC adaptor Mike...not the manuals. The AC adaptor has already been shipped to you. The only topic of today's conversation has been the manuals which you did not inquire about.
Though I guess the real question is if I had responded "no" they weren't included, would you have still bid in the auction? I think we both know the answer to that question is "yes" because you know as well as I do that you got a great deal even without the manuals and power supply.
I have multiple sets of these manuals as well as two sealed in the box sets...it's not about the manuals to me. They're probably not worth a whole hell of a lot. It just really bothers me when people have to take maximum advantage of other people's oversights. I'm sure you'll re-sell the game cartridge and get most/all of your money back and you'll end-up with the original item that you wanted for free...but that's not good enough. That's really where the question of motive comes in to play in my mind. It seems like you're cool with your motives...and so am I. I will, however, be 100% certain that there will be zero opportunities for any miscommunication or misinterpretation in a transaction between you and I in the future."
wow that seller is a douche.
One thing he just said truly pisses me off and has been said before to me when you meet people for stuff and they sold pieces off without telling you. You get the , " hey you are still getting a great deal" ummmmm M******F***** we agreed on something and now you are not living up to it. I dont know how ebay would handle this in an escalation case. That first response was kind of a threat.
do you still have the links to these auctions. first and second? You can pm them to me. Id be interested in not dealing with this person and to see how they listed them.
sent you a PM
Originally posted by: jonebone
He did offer to make it right. He said send it back for a full refund and he'd pay your return shipping. And so far every excuse he's given you has sounded legit... he was out of town, hence why he didn't ship for a week. He has someone else work his stuff for him, hence how there could be a discrepancy.
Maybe just show the listings so we can assess the situation fully, rather than hearing your biased one side of the story. It sounds like there is every reason for you to leave a negative since he hasn't been an upstanding seller, but you also sound like an equally annoying buyer. It sounds like you are trying to force a deal based on semantics, when most people could have logically inferred what was or wasn't included. And once again, if there's any confusion, perhaps you shouldn't bid in the first place. You were willing to give your business to a seller who A) Didn't list properly and
sent you a pm with the listings