NintendoAge 2012 Weekly Contest Presents: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2

bimmy_lee

Hey everyone!  This week's contest is going to be Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2.  Here are the rules:

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  1 life only
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  1 player only
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  Play as whichever turtle you choose
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  No point racking
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  Highest score wins

The contest ends Sunday, 5/6/12 at 10 PM NA time.  Your user name must be in the picture for your score to be valid.  The entire TV screen, or computer monitor if you are playing on an emulator, MUST be in the picture for the score to be valid.  No partial screenshots will be considered or accepted.  Good luck everyone and have fun!

 

Luigi_Master

Just curious, this would be one of those games whose score is 'fixed' AFAIK, thus making it more of an endurance game, right? Meaning, everyone will get 20 points at the same part of the stage, correct?

bimmy_lee

Yes, however, there are a couple spots in the game where you can bypass some enemies. Also, there are a couple boss fights where you can earn a few extra points depending on how long it takes to fight the boss. In level 3, Baxter Stockman drops Mousers from his flying ship. Now, you can't point rack those Mousers, but you are allowed to kill any that get in your way while fighting him.

Luigi_Master

Ah, alright. I really needed an excuse to play this game again. Plus I assume Baxter and his Mousers would hurt you plenty if you tried farming.

bimmy_lee

If we allowed farming, it's possible they could. There's no pizza in that level to heal yourself, and if you're not good at killing Mousers, then farming could be dangerous. The only threat in that boss fight are the Mousers. Baxter can't hurt you at all. He just flies around the screen and drops Mousers.

Benihana

1 life only? Man I can't even get to the end boss of level one with one guy...

Looks like I am going to have practice this one a bit.

daywalker2k2

sweet let me take a shot at this lol



New to this but how do you know that we just used one life..you know what i mean!!!

rdrunner

Originally posted by: daywalker2k2



sweet let me take a shot at this lol



New to this but how do you know that we just used one life..you know what i mean!!!

You get an extra man every 200 points, so this should be easy to verify.  Your lives counter should be consistent with your score.

Benihana

And we always work on trust and integrity...

Benihana

I will get them started with this pathatic score....my best all morning

Benihana 56

ookii_risu

I'm starting to figure this thing out a bit more. It's a lot easier than I remembered. I goofed up on the boss though, partially getting tired and partially because this Retrolink controller sucks. 

rokubungi

519





the ones that just punch and jumpkick you are the worst.. one hit and they start stunning you and make a couple more hits..  this is about the best I've ever done on this game. played a bit more killed 3 more guys and of course there would have to be a pizza on the very next screen..  ARGH!!



and I don't think baxter on level 3 would be all that dangerous to farm you would just have to stand in a corner and power move the whole time.

buttheadrulesagain

I shall make a comeback for this one

Benihana

Wow. Those are some great scores guys. Looking good already and it is only Tuesday

bimmy_lee

794

rdrunner

Nice job, Bimmy.  Just finished my own run to the same point. Looks like I've been out-Mousered (if that's a word).



EDIT: Score pic removed.  Higher score later in thread.

buttheadrulesagain

I find a difficulty here: I also got to Krang, as rdrunner and Bimmy, and I got 793. I guess I can try more, but I guess I'd "take my time" to kick Baxter Stockman's ass, and get more mouser points - that'd be cheesy. How about this?: whoever finishes the game with one life wins automatically. Or at least kill Krang? we could take a pic before killing Krang, and one after dying with Shredder, and see who killed more Shredder clones?

ookii_risu

^^^Are you proposing that whoever finishes the game first wins the 10 points? I would like this idea if everyone were starting at the same time and had the same amount of time to try, but that wouldn't be realistic in this contest. Seems like farming Shredder clones might be the best option, since it should be a lot harder.

rdrunner

Originally posted by: buttheadrulesagain



I find a difficulty here: I also got to Krang, as rdrunner and Bimmy, and I got 793. I guess I can try more, but I guess I'd "take my time" to kick Baxter Stockman's ass, and get more mouser points - that'd be cheesy. How about this?: whoever finishes the game with one life wins automatically. Or at least kill Krang? we could take a pic before killing Krang, and one after dying with Shredder, and see who killed more Shredder clones?

You know what?  I was just about to ask a similar question. 



I was considering whether I would do another run to try and beat the game on one man, but under the current rules, what's the point?  Someone could win this thing just by killing extra mousers and not even getting to Krang.  I know that we have a "no leeching" rule in place, but it's a very thin line in this game.



Here's a possible solution: How about we make this a low score challenge?  We could do it similar to Double Dragon and Contra from previous blocks.  Most progress wins, lowest score breaks ties?

guillavoie

Originally posted by: rdrunner



Here's a possible solution: How about we make this a low score challenge?  We could do it similar to Double Dragon and Contra from previous blocks.  Most progress wins, lowest score breaks ties?

I'm happy to see you guys already questionned yourselves about this issue.



Definitely, the best option is too change it to a 'Who got furthest - Low score challenge'. Bimmy should agree on this as well.

buttheadrulesagain

The problem is, at least for rdrunner, bimmy and me, that if we eventually end up finishing the game, it'll come down to who farmed more mousers. Even if none of us pass after Krang, the winner will be the one that breaks the rules more (no farming), and that's no indication of better gaming. What's more: if I get killed before the Stone Soldier boss, but farmed 5 more mousers than bimmy or rdrunner, I'd "win".

buttheadrulesagain

Originally posted by: guillavoie

Originally posted by: rdrunner



Here's a possible solution: How about we make this a low score challenge?  We could do it similar to Double Dragon and Contra from previous blocks.  Most progress wins, lowest score breaks ties?

I'm happy to see you guys already questionned yourselves about this issue.



Definitely, the best option is too change it to a 'Who got furthest - Low score challenge'. Bimmy should agree on this as well.

Didn't see this post. I think that's a better option. Actually trying to beat Stckman without killing many mousers is the way to go, and actually more challenging.

ookii_risu

So you can run enemies off the screen in this game?

buttheadrulesagain

Originally posted by: ookii_risu



So you can run enemies off the screen in this game?

No, but there are a couple of spots and ways you can minimize the number of points, like the mousers part. Not telling the other ways I know, though .

ookii_risu

^^^Nah, I wouldn't want you to.

bimmy_lee

I think we should leave the rules as they are. The Mousers at Baxter Stockman are not the only enemies you can farm for points in the game. In stage 6 on the expressway, you can fight an infinite number of motorcycle Foot Soldiers once they appear. When fighting Baxter, it's ok to destroy Mousers that become a threat to you, but no one should be solely focusing on Mousers. Everyone should try to defeat Baxter as quickly as possible. Also, there are several other things that can impact your score in this game:



1. If you deflect an object back at an enemy, you will not gain a point (ex. a Foot Soldier throws a sewer lid at you and you hit it back at him and destroy him, you will not gain a point)



2. There are some objects in the game you can hit for an extra point. If you don't hit them, then you obviously won't get the point.



3. There are a couple spots in the game where you can bypass some enemies. There are some missiles in stage 3 you can avoid and some freezing spray canisters in stage 10 you can skip over.



4. Shredder. He only clones himself so many times (I believe it's 13 times) so it is possible to defeat him before you exhaust his supply of clones.

buttheadrulesagain

the least amount of points is a good idea actually, please consider it! There's really no way to tell if the winner killed a "fair" amount of mousers/bikers (whatever that means). I killed Krang and got 730 points while avoiding everything you mentioned (I only killed like 3-4 mousers, avoided all the extra points, and used the object thing as well as I could). I bet you that it will become a nuisance if we leave the rules as they are.



I think that the "least amount, or farthest" rule will reflect better our skill, than the original rules. For instance, if I kill the right amount of mousers to cover for whatever I missed, plus an extra, how will you tell? Maybe someone else will do the same, plus a little bit more... etc. In the other case, it's actually a challenge to kill less mousers, and to use the objects to earn less points.

rdrunner

I dunno. I guess the rules are fine either way. I just personally hate that Baxter battle because I feel guilty killing him slowly for Mousers when he's normally so easy to beat. Normally, I would just knock him out before he drops more than a handful of Mousers and move on.



Unfortunately, it's just a huge flaw in the game.

buttheadrulesagain

So me beating Krang will be considered less because of low score, than bimmy's and rdrunner? In that case tell me please, so I can change focus on the "extra" enemies and objects. I'll do my best not to farm.

buttheadrulesagain

803





I got to Shredder before, with the lowest score I could achieve:

Mog

How about just allow point racking? You only get 1 life anyway so whats the difference?